Maaan I remember having those 30 minute conversations with my eyes closed like him when I was on heroin. Just passed 3 years sober and I’m grateful to not be in that hell anymore . Wish them both the best of luck
6 months sober here. Life is better on the other side, even though it is still a massive struggle. But the struggle is worth it. I'm really hoping the best for these two, they seem like kind souls struggling eternally from one bad decision like the rest of us. I hope they make it out.
25 yrs clean so glad I realised my self worth..hard yards but so grateful and humbled. All power to people finding a reason and strength to find a way out..
opiate addiction is no joke, and fentanyl is on another level. im happy to be alive. but it wasnt easy and ill never get those years of my life back. but watching this channel brings me so much gratitude for what i have, and lots of empathy to those struggling. sending good vibes to everyone. and their pets too haha peace
@@sorarmojoanakket.5615 No, they mean empathy. Google is free to all check the definition. Glad you're sober and living healthier, much love to you :) gotta say we all need more than good vibes. You can have great vibes tripping your balls off, drunk and stoned. We need Jesus.
When people are leading lives that are like these two they tell themselves that they were and/or good parents. It's easier to say they never neglected their responsibilities than say the drugs come first no matter what.
“We don’t neglect our responsibilities” but we have no home, no jobs, and don’t have custody of our child? And drugs played less than a 25% role in the life you live??! Goodness I hate the lies addiction makes people believe
@@JohnSmith-mc2zz Tbh I have no clue what simping is? At the end of the day it's only my opinion and opinions are like ass holes, we all have and everyone else's stinks.
Travis your a better man for not knowing. When u use that term ur young and impressionable. Teen to 20s use it mostly And I agree him sayin he don’t regret using says all u need to know. But I disagree on her getting clean if he was gone. She would have the same chance as anyone cuz she gone deep into the drug lifestyle
@@JohnSmith-mc2zz ah got it you learn something new everyday right. I just thought the guy was nodding fairly badly and still was fairly controlling could only imagine what he is like when he is on the hunt for the next fix. But that's just an assumption he could be sweet as anything.
Unfortunately she may have to leave him to save herself... I had to do that four years ago with my ex and been clean ever since... but my ex is still out there making excuses and I have a car and a roof and had a baby in the last 4 years and I am so grateful and thankful for how far I have come and I have my family trusting me again... sobriety is wonderful and thank you for reminding me how good and bad life can be!
Good for you, @MaddHeather. It's wonderful that your family trusts you again. I bet they are relieved to have you back too. Congrats on all you've accomplished thus far.
Congrats to you. When I got clean (it'll be 5 years in 5 days!!!) I had to leave a toxic relationship with our 9 month old daughter. Her father hasn't seen her since. I now have full custody of both my girls, a college degree, a home, vehicle, etc. He's a 52 year old homeless bum. Best decision I ever made, but still difficult. At the time. No regrets now. I have a wonderful, sober husband who is a real dad to my kids.
I had to do the same. It was toxic. Ill be 3 years sober tomorrow though. Now I have a baby as well, and life is normal but good. Plus I have a bachelors degree and now working on a master’s program to become a clinical psychologist. A lot better than staying out all night and running away from imaginary things and or people. 😅
Oh man, these guys might have a long way to go, but things can absolutely get better for them. I totally empathize with the anxiety thing. It led me to self-medicate too. Now I have it under control with legal meds and my life is sooo much better. Don't give up, guys. I know it's hard to know where to start. Just know that there is a better life out there, and keep on.
She wanted to leave and he tells her they've got to stick it out and it's other people trying to separate them. Bullshit. He is holding her back. Get help for your addiction and get out of that ratshit place you're existing in. If they both can't get out, I really hope she at least can find the strength to do so.
I agree but I think she is detoxing while sitting there and will do whatever it takes to get that next hit . They are both so so sick and sad. What motivation do they honestly have to get clean he does not regret using dope
I had to leave my partner to get better n after a few months n fear of losing me he got into treatment too. I have a year n 2 months n he has almost a year clean! So yes ur right. Fearing losing one another to this lifestyle should be greater than being apart for a lil bit to get better!
This applies to all drugs, really. If you want to quit alcohol, for example, you must separate from your partner who also uses with you, at least for a period of time, in order to get sober. After you get sober, of course, you need to convince your partner to go to rehab as well. Or both go to rehab at the same time.
I think he meant they have to stay there and be homeless to get the housing benefits they were waiting for and she was ready to leave. They didn't say where to. It doesn't sound like they have a whole lot of options. I don't think she was trying to leave and go treatment. I pray they are safe and get their housing assistance in a speedy manner. It's a long wait from the other stories I've heard on this channel. I think one couple have been waiting close to a year. Sending positive thoughts and energy your way. ✨️ 🙏 💛
Dude is basically falling asleep in that chair and says drugs are to blame for 25% or less of his problems. Eric, drugs are like 80% of your problem, the other 20% are your excuses.
When you realize love is not putting up with hardship and sticking together but realizing that when someone truly loves you would care for your well being and safety. We have to stop confusing codependency, low self esteem for love. Sending you both love! ❤
It’s strange how addicts somehow get…”annoyed” with their families? You’re 2 grown ass adults. No, your mom doesn’t have to pay your rent. She doesn’t have to put your utilities in her name. She’s already taking care of your child when she should be enjoying not having anymore kids!! If you deserve your own spot, WORK! You’re telling me you lost your car and tools multiple times? Or were they sold?
He couldn't protect her if he tried, he's so out of it. Sadly can't see them getting out of their situation. Hopefully their child has a stable home life with his Grandparents
Such a sad story. The saddest part of all is the "I dont regret doing dope, it's just who I am". I don't see how he can say he's a functioning addict when he's struggling to even be alert. I absolutely get they they obviously love each other to the moon and back, but I hope at some point she puts her son first. He needs a parent who can guide him through life and be there for him. Not this. And not someone else raising him while they are getting blazed. Or the cycle will just keep going. I hope everything works out for the best.
Infinitely sad, I feel really tearful after that. There’s so many good, intelligent, kind hearted souls suffering on this planet and it hurts to see. I hope something changes for this little family 🤍
Close your eyes and listen to him. You would think it was Christian Slater talking. Hope you two stay safe, or at least go into treatment with and for each other. Prayers to both of you.
Frighteningly happily united in drug addiction and codependency for 13 years. Functioning drug addicts? He can barely stay in the chair...Unfortunately, the two are on a downward track and their couple situation certainly doesn't make it easy to break the downward spiral...They want it that way...tragically
The fact that he said his addiction is "25% or less" to blame for his situation just goes to show how delusional he is. Poor girl got roped into his nonsense.
Good Morning Mark and SWU Family . Wishing you ALL a wonderful Monday! 🤗 Thank you for sharing your story Eric and Karen Praying that you both can find some peace ,get well & get your lives together to be with your son GBY BOTH 🙏🏼
Good that you recognize this. It's the caffeine that's the problem. I love coffee but gave it up in 2018 for one year as l was giving up sugar. I took it back up for 2 years (black). Last year, l read the book, Caffeine Blues and l was finally done. No more. I have the memories of enjoying it (l drank organic all ingredients & good water) but l dont miss mindlessly hyrting my health. It was my only vice.
Reading all these comments blow my mind. He turned his woman out. He's the worst thing to happen to her. Loving? This isn't love. This is co dependency.
thank you, I thought I was the only one who thought that. got her pregnant after three months and now she’s linked to him forever and stuck on drugs… it’s hard to even listen to him to be honest
I hope and pray that their 12 year old son who they have left with relatives NEVER sees this video. When they talk about keeping to themselves and "not hurting anybody"....they are hurting that boy every single day with their choice. It is clear that Eric is hitting rock bottom and is determined to take Karen down with him...And has made Karen feel like he will die without her so he has trapped her emotionally. Karen, on the other hand, is feeling the loss of her son and wants to be near him. Which she CAN do any day she chooses if she can just unglue herself from this guy who doesn't regret a minute of his drug use.
Wendy You took the words right out of my mouth. This man has made her emotionally dependent on him. That poor son. My prayers are for him and his caregivers. There comes a time when we have to think of others and not just ourselves. God bless all of you 💔
Whining people are trying to separate or get between them. Uh….hell yes and for good reason. Living to be high is not life. It’s mental death. Run Karen run.
Given the fact that addiction is a disease, their choice to leave him with family instead of dragging him down the hellhole they're playing in every day, is the lesser of two evils. I'd say he's a lot less hurt in a (hopefully) safe and loving environment with extended family than he would be with them living in filth and consistent danger on the streets and coming second to them getting high every single day.
When a child can't be raised by their parents, they are being hurt, so someone is being hurt by these actions. The people having to take on their responsibility of raising that hurt child is also hurt, as it is not their responsibility in life. To say, "We're not hurting anyone" s a lie. To not regret doing dope, even though affecting the lives of others and hurting them, I don't get.
it's crazy to see how they all moved to fentanyl. not that long ago seems like all was talked about how they were worried about getting fentanyl by accident. now it's sought after
Apparently it's cheaper and more widely available than heroin now which would explain why folks are doing fentanyl. I understand they've been cutting heroin with it for a while too.
It's not sought out at all- it's simply taken the place of H. Simply because it's easier and cheaper for the suppliers. That's it. Legalization and compassion I truly believe is the right answer. The war on drugs is and always was W.A.F. Peace and Love errbody!
@@caseycunningham3933 there's plenty of these videos now saying fentanyl addict. and they talk about getting good fentanyl etc.. They are not saying looking for heroin but will rage fentanyl. they are seeking out fentanyl
He can barely even talk from trying to fight off the nodding. Medicated assisted treatment saved my life and I wish it wasn’t so frowned upon by most people. It could possibly save their lives as well. I just lost my fiancé due to a fentanyl overdose so when he said her OD almost killed him but didn’t affect him enough to try to get into treatment is upsetting, it will happen to one of them again and the other will be left to fight alone and even heartbreak can kill you. Losing my fiancé is the most painful thing I’ve ever been through and I pray they open their eyes and make the decision to seek treatment. God bless them ❤
Right, because everybody knows addicts are thinking properly. 🙄 Judgmental 💩’s like you are one of the reasons addicts feel too ashamed to seek the help they need.
I dated a guy who once in recovery would be like oh I shot that chic up for the first time and that one too. I was like and you think it's something to brag about. He sure thought so. Idk how he's still clean if I'm being honest
Please guys… get help. Emotionally, spiritually, physically… all kind of help. Your wife is a precious woman and went through many abuse. She started to open out and cried… Please get help. I wish to see an update with things getting better for you two and your son. 🧡🙏🏼🧡
Absolutely. To make it in this jungle, you have to have your wits about you. They will never make it out of there until they get sober and can make good choices. Eric says he is a functioning addict and does not regret using, so I guess he is stuck.
These two have written the book of excuses, making it extremely difficult to watch. I watch these every morning before work and these two take no responsibility for their situation which is sad because in that mind state they will never be able to change. The entire theme of this conversation is basically it’s someone else’s fault!
Good thread. At least l know it is not me feeling negative. I wish them strength to see a way out. I dont have these rypes of struggles and problems but l can see how trapped the situation makes a person feel. 😔
@@mamarobyn yeah, this is all they know now. there’s a point where you see them slip away to this kind of mindset where there’s no way it could be their fault🤷🏻♀️
It is amazing how you can croak on & on for a 1/2 hr & take zero accountability for all the misfortune you’ve encountered…or blame the drug for only 1/4 of your problems. She has a light that hasn’t completely gone out yet, but it won’t be there long if she stays with someone focused on victimhood, race, & how unfair the world is. As a former addict I can tell you, you have no chance until you take responsibility for yourself, & she has no chance if she stays with him.
Very well said, unfortunately I completely agree with you and feel sorry for their boy. Total delusion even though they appear to be kind and honest. Tragic!
I seriously can't listen to one more second of this interview. These two are really something else. Drugs have definitely fried both there brains. He seems more delusional than her. He's definitely racist. I feel sorry for their 12 year old son. Has to suck to have a narcissist junkie for a father. Thank God for his grandmother.
When they both said "losing her"/ "losing him" at the same time, to the question of what they fear most... Ugh, I had to rewind it and hear it again because it is so beautiful and refreshing. It is soooo hard to find your person, and the one who has your back. Eric and Karen, I'm praying for you guys, and you are doing right staying grounded and kind. You both are extremely strong. Know that you have a huge number of new humans in your corner.
Eric's IQ is his reasoning for drug use. I'm in the 1% and have never used. He has a lot of excuses. "All the opportunities" in skid row. How generous of Eric to " not pimp" his wife out. I hope Karen breaks free. He has already admitted to physical abuse. She is spiraling with him. Not a good place for anyone. This is a really heartbreaking interview.
I come from a family of construction - tradesmen - contractors. Not ONE of them ever "left their tools" with someone for safe keeping. Being stoned would make it hard to keep track of your sh*t. Or the need to sell them off for...
rookie mistake number one is even leaving 1 single paintbrush or 1 single drillbit laying around. dont be in such a hurry to leave. take everything you brought in, out because you never know what tomorrow brings... it may be your last time walking in or out of that jobsite regardless of what the initial plan was
@@ananda_miaoyin you take out what you bring in. if you lose it or it walks off, you deserve it because you allowed it.. tools stolen from vehicles or lock boxes are not included in my statement
This guy’s such a piece of work. This poor lady needs to get his junky ass out of her life. He’s going nowhere quick with his “nothing is my fault” attitude.
They are so high in this interview and we are missing parts of the story for sure especially in the beginning . They both have trauma & this is a good example of why people need therapy & mental health meds & lots of love & help .
I pray to God you see this hun. With all love I’ve seen it many times, with family and myself, and he is holding you back. He is scared to get clean himself and he wants to hold you back. He loves the drug more than you, your child, and life. He is a selfish liar and I know it hurts because YOU love HIM. I know you love him and it’s hard but the best thing to do for you both is to leave him and get clean, and hopefully he will follow. I promise baby I can see it in your eyes you have a beautiful life ahead of you. This is your one chance to finally be selfish. TAKE IT!!
Excuses, excuses and more excuses about why he/they can't get clean... and saying he doesn't regret doing dope (in my opinion) is also saying he doesn't regret not having custody of his kid, and won't regret losing you either Karen... he'll only regret "procrastinating" on trying to save you
Sorry to say, but you aren’t a functioning addict if you’re homeless on skid row, not caring for your child and can barely stay conscious during an interview. I imagine those things wouldn’t be true if you weren’t struggling with addiction, so it’s actually a big part of the problem (certainly more than “25% or less” 🙄). If you don’t see a problem, how can you begin to fix it? You have got to start being honest with yourself if you hope to get better. You can have accountability to yourself while still showing yourself kindness. You can still have dignity. Addiction is an incredibly powerful force and falling prey to it doesn’t make you weak. Everyone deserves better than the misery and desperation of active addiction.
I feel like the love is there and if they could just use that love to push each other to get better, they could be unstoppable! Good luck, and I hope you two can get out of that and be a family with your son♥️
Wow...Even the lowest of the low, the absolute bottom of the pit of drug addiction, despair beyond my ability to understand...there exists racism. If this guy really loves his wife, he will GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!
If she's high too in this then she's really high functioning. He's over here about to pass out and she's completely alert, listening to everything, steering him towards answers cause he's completely out of it. If I came across her, I'd have a hard time knowing. With him it would be easy. So I guess we know who is getting most of the stuff.
Man I really respect your realizations I’m so sorry you’re going through this addiction and I wish you the best both of you you’re pretty honest with each other and about the whole situation is prayers will help you I’m sending them your way
I cannot express how much you have to want to change your life to get off of opiates. I had to go to rehab first. Next, I moved away from my family, partner, friends and doctors to another state so I could get a fresh start. I chose to move to a sober living environment that included a place to stay, a job and sober friends. I also had to do volunteer work and go to church daily. The religion part was not my favorite thing, but it was a small price to pay to get sober and stay sober. I never moved back home. I made a new life for myself. I do not think 28 days is nearly enough for rehab. I was in a program after detox/rehab that lasted 3 years for me. After that I was able to get my own place. The only way to stay sober is to go to any lengths to not relapse. I went to crazy lengths to acquire my drugs when I was using. Anyway, there is no one way to get sober, but I do believe you have to put getting sober first, before anything else.
Good job, man, I wish I had such determination as I have when it goes to drugs... anyway... Can I ask, if you don't mind, how old are you? And how did you meet your sober friends? (I assume they're new people whom you didn't know before, as you've said you moved to a new state). Do you believe in god? I have an impression from your comment that answer is no, but why you had to go to the church? Was it part of therapy? I hope I'm not bothering you too much, your answers would be extremely helpful!
@@Sigrexio I got sober with the help of the Salvation Army. Going to church daily is part of the deal. I do believe in a higher power, but I am no fan of organized religion. I had no friends when I left, but I made new friends through the program, where I lived etc..... I was only with people in recovery during that time. That changed a bit when I got a different job, but as long as I was living and the SA was helping, the church thing as well as community service was just part of the deal. I started using at age 17, and did not get sober for real until I was 38. I am now 54. I still go to meetings and try to live rigorous honesty every day. It will always be a one day at a time deal for me. It does get easier with time, but you must know your triggers, and I keep sober people around me. I am fortunate to be with the same partner for 24 years, but we did separate for over three years while I got the intense help I needed. Like I wrote earlier, this is what works for me.
I almost spit out my coffee when he said, "Let Daddy show you how it's done." 🤣 🤢 We've always been functioning addicts, never neglect our responsibilities, just talk how we are now, meanwhile their son's being raised by someone else, he's nodding off and can barely speak or keep his eyes open. These two are so out if it and think that having a high drug tolerance is impressive. SMFH 🙄
"What's your biggest fear?"LOSING❤(losing him)-HER..damn..they both basically interrupted each other with the same answer..🙏🏻I pray for their sake they both get help and live a healthy fulfilling life...The denial is the killer☠️ in their situation..😢
They: "She got pregnant 3 months later.." Mark: "You've been together how long now?" They: "13 years" Mark: "No kids?" This has happened many times before, Mark asking about something that's been said/told already. Even with these two, they said in the very beginning that they had been together for 13 years.. Not that it matters, but to be a good interviewer you need to listen..
"The doctors and nurses didn't even know how to spell it ... I had to help them with that"! The Wesley Center must suck then. Unfortunately most county or state facilities that care for the "poor" are substandard, and their employees are as well. I'm an RN and have been working with Fentanyl for many years before it became a street problem along with many other nurses and doctors, and we always knew how to spell it.
One more way to bolster the ego and show how much smarter he is than all the squares and straights. He is dead-set on being right but we can see right through it.
I think it’s a bit too late for them to not take drugs to begin with wouldn’t you say? Unless you have a time machine you’re not telling others about ? 😅
The 2 of you are really good people. You're loving, intelligent, kind, unique, the list goes on and you deserve to be free of your addiction. I sincerely hope that you both get clean and off the God awful streets and back to your son. It would be the best and most important decision in your lives. I think the world is better with you 2 in it, you're good folks!
Addiction is hard man.. I've been clean for 3 months and going strong thanks to God. I hope they get better and get their life back. It's dark over there, really dark and I fully understand them!
I Love this couple, they might have drug habits but they don't compromise on their morals and what they believe in. One of my favourite parts of the interview was when Mark ask them "what are you most scared of" ..... and they both replied at the same time and said thet their most scared of losing each other 😘 I thought that was beautiful. Their fav person in the whole world is each other and no amount of money can buy that kind of love. I wish you both a long and happy life ❣️Take Care x
" I don't regret doing dope and I believe in moderation".. but because of your drug use your son is being raised by someone else! When she said "when we are done we will be done"... While your child is growing up without you and the poor grandma paying and raising her grandson all by herself!! No feel bad for that!
I pray that their son never wants the same lifestyle that his parents have shown him. When he said he doesn’t regret a life of drugs, I checked out. I appreciate his honesty but good luck to you both. Hopefully one or both of them get themselves together with or without each other.
goddamn he is high as fuck. Sad to see, you can tell one is relatively sober and the guy is just blasted. Crazy what you put up with when you're in "love". At a certain point, sticking by each other will just be toxic because one always wants addiction more than the other, and they drag the other through it. If you're so in love you're willing to do heroin and fent to be with them, you either have relationship issues, or scared to be alone regardless if its the best thing for you. I could never let someone do that to my life, stick by yourself first and your kids and family vs anyone else.
These 2 make me sick. I have no sympathy for them. Especially her, with the giggling. Both of them justifying and normalizing their addictions. Delusional excuses for 'parents'.
“Never neglected our responsibilities?” “The kid is with their grandmother.” “I have a high IQ.” These people are delusional and 99% of them are hopeless. The guy is a complete scumbag that holds her back so he’s not miserable.
He’s the typical drunk on opiates user rambling while nodding. And I love how these types act like they r being responsible by keeping the kids away from this life. When in reality the kids are kept away from them by dcfs, family etc.
The delusion is strong in these two. They're both High AF. Every excuse and every justification to stay in their positions and wait for the calvary. Big hint, there is no cavalry. You got to do it for you. I wish you all the best of luck but you're going to stay stuck if you stay together. Seek help and separate rehabs and When You're Sober trying to get back together. You obviously can't do it for your son. Bless Grandma for taking care of him
Same stories same stories same stories. The pain is just palpable and so awful. I listen to a few of these as I’m working on projects, cleaning the house, whatever- and then I remember I’m a nurse in a trauma center in a major city dealing with these exact people all the time. Master manipulators. They refuse treatment. I will literally have a bed for them at a treatment facility and No, just give me the pain pills for my abscess. So I don’t know. It’s all so overwhelming. I do know that when the camera is in them it’s a lot of poor me and he is the controller. I know he beats the shit out of her, I know she’s afraid of him. I know this bc I’ve seen it a million times.
15:25 yes I hear this too every damn night... being a catholic and a cat lady I'm getting it badd rn homeless..I feel for you guys..keep ur hearts with Jesus ❤️🙏❤️
Loser parents. How can they sit there holding hands like their a sweet couple when they have a 12 year old boy abandoned by his parents . That poor little boy.
This blew my mind cause they started the interview holding hands and ended it facing away from each other. You can tell they love each other so damn hard but they both love drugs more and if they just got clean they'd have a fabulous, happy life together. Eric is super smart and could probably be really successful if he just had the strength to get clean. What a God damned shame, I don't understand how drugs could possibly be worth it.
I hope y'all are doing better! I know how much you really care each other... Ive struggled with anxiety disorder my entire life! I know how horrible it is... God bless ❤
