@@alexlosy5 I'm aware. It's still awful, just like some of the throwback uniforms worn in professional sports. Just because it's old doesn't make it good!
@@AlexdeLarge6655321 Oh, thats what it is! Homage or not, it looks horrendous, but its a moot point, as i will never be in a position to spoil such a beautiful car with such a poor choice of paint🤣
Maybe I am a little biased the much more expensive 296 GTB is optioned with the Assetto Fiorano pack and it's being compared to a bone stock version of the Artura on a race track, doesn't feel like a fair comparison. Saying all that, it is insightful to hear how the Artura feels on a track. It does sound like McLaren has purposely held back the powertrain and gearbox so that the LT variant will a much bigger leap.
@@MissMiaFit Ferrari is a much bigger company... McLaren punching way above its weight, competiting with the best and often show the way forward. The supercar world has since pulled its socks up since McLaren hit the scene.
You get the blue nose pain as part of the Fiorano handling pack. In other words suspension so hard it's impossible to drive down a rough or should I say a typical UK road. Have a look at harrysgatage on RU-vid for a test of the csr
I am one of very few Artura owners around, it's taken a 1000 miles to get familiar with its behavior, it's fantastic on road and even better on the track. I have not found a moment that I felt I could use another 150hp, perhaps I need a longer track to go to..
Congrats! I was offered an allocation for one. I'm still undecided if I should jump the gun or not. While I love McLaren as in their design and ufo technology, numorous reviews from owners tend to be negative when it comes to the reliability. Hmmm Which car do you come from? What's your opinion on the Artura? i know the performance needs no question but what about other things when it comes to an ownership experience?
Would be nice if you also had a MC20 on the track… The latest Ferrari’s have a design what I like, the 296 GTS, Roma and the Testa rossa J (also like the MC20)
Thanks for your comment misme2000. We have driven the MC20 on road and track Road: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-12xxpy7M9NA.html Track: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YWY5zWR5HrY.html @ 10.35 Also, keep your eyes peeled for future upcoming content 😉
I absolutely disagree, Roma looks like an Aston Martin knock off, SF90 has a nice rear but a generic soulless front end, 296 gtb could also be the next Ford GT, Purosongue represents a walruss on wheels... On the other hand the McLaren isn't really Innovative in terms of Design, it just looks like the previous models...🤷♂️ I really like the 812, great looking car... especially the competizione version...
Thank you for this! The camera work, the editing, the music, all are top notch. Incisive yet charitable commentary gives us clear views of both cars. Excellent job all round. 🙂
Great detailed review James, thank you. The Artura sounds like a very good car with a lot of the typical McLaren strengths, but also their slight weaknesses. The 296 is Ferrari at the top of their game, and still doing it with no steering feel and an old fashioned chassis construction. It sounds like if the 296 had decent steering feel, it would be perfection on wheels. Well done Ferrari.
Lack of lap timing seems excusable in this context given this comparison is much more concerned with the driving experience than it is with absolute performance. The track they've selected does a good job of emulating a winding backroad and there's clearly no question as to which machine brings more pace.
I think you'll find it's more about the different approaches to the tech from either company rather than an out n out financial comparison. Not to mention the Ferrari will be worth more on the open market.
Whoever came up with the marketing "piccolo V12" deserves a raise. It does not sound like a V12, is not a V12, is not intricate or special. Its an alfa romeo engine out of a rental car sedan.
It makes me think of some rich idiot that isn't happy with the amount of attention you get when you own a Ferrari, they have to bastardize it with garish colors in an effort to get even more attention. Like when they wrap a car with gold vinyl but only slightly less disgusting looking.
I like the McLaren Artura more overall, the Ferrari’s power seems less usable in spirited city and canyon driving. Thanks for the comparison video, it was interesting, although they are not a proper comparison, I still wanted to see them compared.
Considering the price difference I think Mclaren would be very flattered that the Artura would be compared to the 296. What Mclaren have made for a relatively low sum is remarkable.
People need to start quoting weight figures properly. Ferrari always quote their dry weight, which is1470kg so that's gna be nearly 1600kg on the road, the McLaren artura can be specced go be 1498kg on the road according to McLaren.
Mclaren a far better all rounder and better value for the money. It's better looking and doesn't have the tacky american muscle car paint job which ruins the look of the Ferrari. However I do love the Ferrari as well, they are both masterfull peices of design and superb engineering.
The Artura is more of a 570 Sports series hybrid replacement than a 720S super series replacement. It's a different price and performance range. Whereas Ferrari are putting the 296GTB in a whole other category of V6. The 296GTB is clearly meant to replace the F8 with a V6. Let's see when Mclaren will bring out a V6 super series car to replace the 720S and then it will be a fairer comparison.
To me, both of these sound (a bit) and look (a lot) better than their turbo V8 predecessors, criminal paintjob on the Ferrari aside. All that power must be pretty frustrating on the road though
@@CITRUS-- I used to work with Ferrari cars...and Lamborghinis, Porsche, Range Rover and Bentley...we bought/sold many many models for hi-end rentals across Europe. The Porsche and the Bentley were the most reliable, Ferrari close second, NEVER had any problems, over different models. The least reliable to dam' right AWFUL were the Range Rover and the Lambos!
This comparison feels more like the 488 vs the 570s. If McLaren is building a hybrid replacement for the 720s, I would expect it'll be closer to the SF90.
I think I would go with the Ferrari, of course I would have it repainted before delivery. Maybe I am old-fashioned but that blue is terrible. But my reason for the Ferrari is not that it is faster, I have no realistic ability to use the small difference between the two. But the regenerative braking gives me the ability to support my environmental views but sometimes when the mood strikes go like a bat out of hell with a huge engine howling behind me. Soon as McLaren adds regenerative braking that will be my choice. The jet plane controls on the Ferrari are not big on my list and I think that the tires on the McLaren are better matched to its output than the Ferrari (but not totally sure of that)
The Ferrari is a better track car with its harsh suspension but I would buy the Maclaren 1st because its a road car with an adaptable suspension making it a better option in wet or dry weather.
That 296gtb has to be best looking Ferrari since the 599. I love how it harks back to the 250 LM. Its amazing to think that Mclaren have only been making road cars for 10 years.
They mention a price difference but don't say... The Ferrari is 65k more expensive. Of course it's going to be quicker. I'm looking forward to whatever LT version McLaren come out with, that can compete with the Ferrari.
Good, fair review. Both cars have good points but both are still too fat and fast. Just what is the point of either ? I would buy an Alpine and put the money in the bank!
O yes an alpine sounds great. If you drive the 296 it’s actually nuts , def the most technologically advanced car I’ve ever driven . It will def be worth the 350k price tag…
I wanted to hate the McLaren but it looks much,much better than I expected. Especially in brighter/lary colours. I love the nose, butresses/rear window, dihedral doors, interior, simple controls (lack of haptics), hydraulic steering, more than adequate performance and slightly more accessible price tag. Ferrari is prettier (w/o the Fiorano strped nonsense), sounds better, is faster (but would that matter in the real world?) but it's £100K more expensive. It would be easier to re-enact the Persuaders, has more 'heritage' etc. Heart says Ferrari. Head says McLaren. If you could afford either it would be a nice problem to have! 🤘🏻
720S successor will be the real competitor of the 296! I agree with other comment saying that the V6s sound better than the previous V8s. The 296 looks really beautiful (not in this two tone paint 😅)! It absolutely kills the slightly weird looking F8...
Not even a comparison. Asseto Fiorano vs a bone stock artura. The only reason why they being compared to eacah other is because both manufacturers released a v6 hybrid around the same time. The Ferrari costs more so it must perform better. The McLaren on the other haand is performing at its price point. To put them side by side is not fair to both of sides.
The Artura is like a test for McLaren to see if can compete with Ferrari and others in this segment of hybrid!! Cause seriously V6 hybrid? Why not 765lt hybrid? Or one with P1 power unit making 907 HP now that's Challenge!!
Ferrari 296 GTB is my clear favorite. It has the better interior, the better engines and also more prestige than the british opponent. However, I love the exterior design of the Mclaren, that's where the Ferrari disappoints me a bit. Pricewise the Mclaren is much more attractive than the Ferrari, especially in my country Austria where there is no tax despite VAT on the McLaren, but 28% on the Ferrari. So here in Austria I would go for the McLaren despite preferring the Ferrari (we actually have an SF90 Spider being delivered this month).
I would rather the driving position in the McLaren as not a lot on the steering wheel. Obviously the Ferrari's faster but how many are going to race it. Plus the McLaren spider's has had a power increase now and does look quite Nice. Better than the Ferrari convertible. I would choose the McLaren Artura Spider. But living in England i would perhaps go for the Ferrari 296 GTB but needs the right colour and spec. If i was worrying a bit about the money i would buy the McLaren.
The title of the video says "Track Battle", it is not. It's a nice track review, indeed... but no lap times. IMHO it's not a fair comparison, since the price difference of both cars is almost $100K.
Unfair comparison. The Arturo is the new Sports Series car; essentially a 570S replacement. Wait for the 720S replacement and then have a fair match up. Super Series V Super Series.
296 GTB is currently the entry level model in Ferrari's sports car lineup, below the 812 and SF90. Ferrari stopped taking order for the F8 months ago and production is stopping soon.
These cars are not competitors, the price and power contrast between the two are far too different for them to be competitors. The GTB is more a 720s competitor and the Artura is more a Huracan competitor.
@@sssssss8946 Use your head… you’re comparing an entry level McLaren with 671 horses to a Ferrari that costs more than a 720s and has 819 horses. They simply don’t compare. And yes the 5 year old ICE McLaren 720s is more of a competitor. Just like how the hybrid SF90’s biggest competitor is the ICE 765LT. And you know I’m not talking about an 8 year old Huracan🤦🏽♂️… I’m talking about the EVO and the Technica. When McLaren makes the Artura LT it will be a proper 296 competitor.
Just to be clear this not a contest, the Ferrari 296 is at a different league than the Artura. Let alone McLaren has a well deserved bad reputation that something always goes wrong with them and it will cost you a lot.
The Mclaren Artura is £50k cheaper than the Ferrari 296. Mclaren 720s is almost same price. So should have used that model instead. Not a fair comparison financially at least using A
Neither sounds that great. If you think you can't make a V6 sound great, check out some of the Jaguar F-Type V6 sound tracks here on RU-vid. I may be biased tho ;-)
@@CP-vg4vy even in person still not as good as a much cheaper Jag V6. Just compare the sounds here on RU-vid. My point is, a V6 can be made to sound fantastic, they should able to do it for a few hundred thousand dollar car. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0u5CvD8a3fI.html
@@jortepap So after spending $350,000 on the 296 then you have to spend another what, $20-30,000 on an aftermarket exhaust> And IMO the example you gave sounds better than stock but not better than the Jag. 2 different sounds.
Not surprised the Ferrari is more capable as it is US$100k more expensive. Artura matches up against 911 turbo/GT (and dominates), 720 goes against 296.
I hate the toy car paint job on that Ferrari. I don't dislike the pattern, it's the color. It makes it hard to properly take in the lines of the design.
@@ENGBriseB man I rate Mclaren above my all times favourites racing technical wizard Porsche ! I'm disappointed to see a Mclaren over shadowed by my most hated manufacturer Ferrari 😳
I believe that at this price range, brand loyalty likely wins over price advantage. It does for anyways! Give me the Ferrari, but minus the Assetto Fiorano package. I don't have the driving skill to really take advantage of the higher capability and I can also avoid that livery. I have yet to see a color combination that I like.
i very balanced review showing benefits of both. BUT the Ferrari is the masterpiece. Good on you Mc:Laren for making such an outstanding car. Grazie Mille Ferrari for delivering what the Tifosi need to continue the tradition!
Two cars that will never be driven this way by anyone who actually buys it. Rather both will be garage queens lucky to see more than 2k miles in their lifetime.
Chi is right. I already have a McLaren (and Artura will probably be the next one) and I don't let it in the garage, nor my other cars. I ride them as often as I can, on road and/or on track. 😉
In real life their DIN weight is over a 400 lb difference. Primarily from a carbon tub but McLaren has always been about lightness. Ferrari is not so concerned about it as they get away with lying easily.
Let’s not forget that these vehicles are both road cars. Imagine if a law came in, saying you can’t drive that on public roads anymore…. Unless you pay a premium. You have to sell your car. Higher prices at first to null the waiting list. Prices drop and not long after that, so does interest. Your car withers. Repair costs increase. You start to loose money rapidly. Your car slips into minus.. your life… gone. La Fin.