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Fiat Panda 2015 crank no start, immobilizer active! Fault finding and repair. 

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Hi
This car came to me after an apparently electrical power cut... whatever that means...
As you will find out throughout this video, a lot as been hidden/keep from me, and was much more than meet the eye...
The car would crank, the security/immobilizer light was always on...
A scan, revealed indeed immobilizer codes, but as I started to dig into it, started to find that someone tried already try to get it running by bodge it...
Anyway, follow me on this video to find out what was the problem and how to resolve it.
Hope you enjoy the video.
Any questions or comments put them below.
Like always, thank you for watching!

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@ianwheat1577
@ianwheat1577 11 месяцев назад
That car has been butchered don't get involved you don't no what they have been messing with and what damage they have done .you are a star to get that sorted take a lot of time to sort out
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ Indeed it took some time... 👍👍👍
@pwbpeter
@pwbpeter 11 месяцев назад
Great fix, you certainly go the extra mile for your customers and get it done 👍
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ Thanks! 👍👍👍
@mandymoo7406
@mandymoo7406 11 месяцев назад
the first red light was the door mechanism on the seat at the start of the video,then the replaced ignition barrel then we see the immobilisor lock on the dash,for these reasons i thought stolen recovered and would have gone straight for an ecu lckset and replaced the body control and the ecu,customer did well to get the right body module because when i was doing puntos there were obviously different ones depending on the spec of the car,im pretty certain you can turn off the airconditioning with fiatecuscan,havent worked on fiat for well over 6 years now,another great video and certainly worth watching,jump leads eh? bet that was at the auction as they tried to get this non runner started,thanks
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ 👍👍👍
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland 11 месяцев назад
Great vid as always Luis. Most people would of walked away from that mess. Another auction nightmare
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ Indeed! 👍👍👍
@nehemiah473
@nehemiah473 11 месяцев назад
From the inception I noticed no check engine light.. and I was waiting to see if you notice it. As soon as the replacement ecu was installed.... There it is
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ 👍👍👍
@gezdipz5425
@gezdipz5425 11 месяцев назад
The wizard does it again with a little magic,nice one luis 👌
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Magic? Patience... loads of it! 😅😋 👍👍👍
@andrewyeo2353
@andrewyeo2353 11 месяцев назад
Well done for sticking with it shame about damage others have done to panels inside and out
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Indeed... Thank you for watching! 👍👍👍
@fuzzs8970
@fuzzs8970 11 месяцев назад
Well done. I'm thanking you on behalf of all those who ends up in these situations and can't find anyone to repair it
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ 👍👍👍
@davejohn6261
@davejohn6261 11 месяцев назад
Another great video,just keep um coming,showing butchery of car shows the cowboys are still about,love you video,s,by the way what version of maxisys is the one you use,me thinking it's a 906,but could be wrong,remember I mentioned I was trying to clone data from one bcm to another on my renault scenic mk2 ,could not be done,the siemens n2 bcm is encrypted into the board ,so need another ecu kit with bcm have right numbers and right conformity set up as the one at mo is missing rear hatch control and no door marker lights,no front or rear fog lights etc,anyway enough waffle,great work.
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
MS908P Some of those configurations on the renaults can be altered.. Might worth a try... 👍👍👍
@PandaBero83
@PandaBero83 11 месяцев назад
@@LMAutoRepairs @davejohn6261 is right. It really needs the correct partnumber. You can change the VIN from the BCM (Fiat is calling it a BSI), and then virginize the ECU. Autel has function for it. ECU will learn the vin and pincode from the BCM. You did a great job on this one. I had a Panda 169 with almost the same problems after trying to boost, only diference was that it was the BSI that got fire. Luckly i could still read the data with VVDI Prog and cloned the BSI.
@user-jg6vw3em9f
@user-jg6vw3em9f 11 месяцев назад
He Luis. Super work on getting this car running. Your enthusiasm and hard work hard with useful tips always in resolving problems always shine through. I’m absolutely astonished the amount of abuse an 8 year old has taken. Perhaps the technician who butchered the work can watch your videos and a lesson or two 😊
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ 👍👍👍
@Fergie6366
@Fergie6366 11 месяцев назад
I hope you charged him accordingly. I have a special rate for those people that have had someone fiddle with the car prior What a ball buster. People should not touch if they don't know
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ Agree... 👍👍👍
@TzOk
@TzOk 10 месяцев назад
After replacing the ECM you really should do the adaptive parameters reset, and after that perform a phonic-wheel adaptation (you don't need a computer for that, just warm up the engine and rev it over 5000 rpm 3 times in a row). That would also solve the issue with the A/C coded but missing.
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 10 месяцев назад
Next time...😋 👍👍👍
@MrLekatt
@MrLekatt 11 месяцев назад
I am truly amazed... congrats to you and your customer!
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ 👍👍👍
@brianshuker-wstf
@brianshuker-wstf 11 месяцев назад
Great work Lewis very educational video thanks
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ Thank you, for watching and for your comment! 👍👍👍
@ianthompson4780
@ianthompson4780 10 месяцев назад
I have similar problem with a fiesta diesel which has wrong parts fitted and I am getting the correct parts to get back to find out what the original fault was and then fix it
@mobreyngambi1052
@mobreyngambi1052 11 месяцев назад
That was a good fix
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@rodwanbornaz1282
@rodwanbornaz1282 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing this experience. Good luck.
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ Thank you for watching! 👍👍👍
@miketherefurbisher8000
@miketherefurbisher8000 11 месяцев назад
You Have done it again Luis!! Great Stuff sir. "Thanks "👌
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ Thank you for watching! 👍👍👍
@anapaulapereira3255
@anapaulapereira3255 11 месяцев назад
top
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@cardecoder
@cardecoder 11 месяцев назад
With Alfa OBD software you can change configuration in BCM and turn off AC option.
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
And I actually have that software... At this point I just had enough and just want to get it out o sight... It was causing and engine light, or some other warning, I probably would have tried a bit further...😋 👍👍👍
@Peter-hc4di
@Peter-hc4di Год назад
Hi! If The engine ecu has a control wire for ac relay (cooling fan) You can just put 12v thru a dummy relay. Done this before on a Volvo, same hardware different software for an ac model vs non ac model! With The code for the cooling fan it stopped control idle valve! Thanks for this!
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs Год назад
Fair enough, but in this case was the opposite... the car was not fitted with air conditioning... which the car from where the ecu came from had it... I guess I could have installed air conditioning...🤪🤣 👍👍👍
@Peter-hc4di
@Peter-hc4di Год назад
@@LMAutoRepairs Thats my point, The ecu you fitted looking for 12v on control side of ac relay (engine ecu) its only watching The ac cooling fan thru that relay, if it not see 12V it set a cooling fan code...
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs Год назад
Would still set the code for the refrigerant pressure and for the compressor...🤪 👍👍👍
@Peter-hc4di
@Peter-hc4di Год назад
@@LMAutoRepairs Yes maybe, what Im trying to say is if you get an ac cooling fan related code in engine ecu it may trigger engine light (not always) and put car in limp, like in some Citroën and Peugeot. The other code for pressure and stuff shouldnt matter.
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs Год назад
👍 This codes where all for the air conditioning side of things... not affecting anything else... but I know what you mean...👍👍👍
@amarabdelli487
@amarabdelli487 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching! 👍👍👍
@sohailrabani
@sohailrabani 11 месяцев назад
Alguem tento aprender na viatura de dono...cramba....bom trabalho dr.luis...cheers
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Parece que sim... lol Obrigado! 👍👍👍
@geoffreyrawlings9736
@geoffreyrawlings9736 10 месяцев назад
What a minefield Well done .what is the model number of maxisys that you are using. Thanks
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 10 месяцев назад
I have two... The MS908P and the IM608... 👍👍👍
@mohcinemohvine3780
@mohcinemohvine3780 11 месяцев назад
in your place i read map from ecm and do all dtcs off and job done
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
If they where causing any warnings or other issues I would have thought of something... But they were not, and I just wanted this thing out of sight...😅
@PandaBero83
@PandaBero83 11 месяцев назад
@@LMAutoRepairsAnd we wish the next person who do diagnostics on it a lot of fun! 😀
@lindadavies5298
@lindadavies5298 3 месяца назад
I know its been awhile since you under took the panda repair and i can throw some light on that model.its been repaired with 2models of panda start off that ignition key isnt right for a pop model as the key shouldnt have remote locking in 1 of your videos you couldnt deactive the door open light again its been fitted with bcm from a lounge model.rear doors have plastic strips fitted to loung they are not fitted to that model.that car has been in a crash and had another scrap vehicle for parts.hope this didnt stress you to much.when other have been messing around with a car to that extent its better to walk good video.
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 3 месяца назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@alexdragomirescu5084
@alexdragomirescu5084 11 месяцев назад
Wife's moving old stuff in the new garage, eh? :)) You had a nice place some time ago, now you're left with 2m of space :)) Good job as always! By the way, you named a certain site for electric diagrams, couldn't catch it...could you write it here? Thanks
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
😅 HGS Thank you! 👍👍👍
@colinhamer6506
@colinhamer6506 11 месяцев назад
We had a hard time with a 500L the engine ECU was miss behaving we got a ECU kit it came with air bag module full lick set etc after fitting just the engine ECU BCM and key fob the original problem was solved it just had the flashing milage the proxi failed at airbags we fitted the module that came with the kit the milage stopped flashing and a air bag light came on with a code for knee airbag we then found the car didn't have one and the pin's on the airbag modules where slightly different at that point I decided to pass the job on to someone with the knowledge and tools for Fiat presuming that they would easily be able to earth get the original model to sink or the new one to stop looking for the missing airbag but no unfortunately we tried 2 different people with dealer software and they both were lead to the rear parking sensors module by their scan tool we got one in the ECU kit and it was identical we switched it out for both of the guys it didn't change anything the second guy wanted to try turning off that model and convinced the costumer that he wanted to get it figured out no matter what we haven't heard if it's been solved yet I'm betting it's not as they didn't want to listen to what I found and obsessed over a reversing model 🤔
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
😬 Looks like that one is not cooperating... 👍👍👍
@mindapothecary
@mindapothecary 11 месяцев назад
Super video as always
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@va7052
@va7052 11 месяцев назад
Nice one
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@timbo19751975
@timbo19751975 11 месяцев назад
Thats had a free running / immob off ecu fitted...aside from the butchery after an incorrect polarity jump fry
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Possibly... 👍👍👍
@endot5418
@endot5418 11 месяцев назад
Hello !! Could you help me I have a big key problem on an astra g t98 ? I can't change it without the P1614 obd code appearing !!! I will be glad if you can help me !!! Thank you keep the good work you are the best !!!
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
What exactly are you trying to do? 👍👍👍
@endot5418
@endot5418 11 месяцев назад
I have a New key lock and key with it. And when I put it in the car the car activate the imobilizer and I can't startup the car. I should tell you this is an OEM parts.
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Because the key is not from that car... Where is the original key?
@endot5418
@endot5418 11 месяцев назад
@@LMAutoRepairs OK is it programable ?
@aymenmohamed1134
@aymenmohamed1134 10 месяцев назад
Awesome
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 10 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@gabrielherda3714
@gabrielherda3714 11 месяцев назад
Well done !!!!!
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@richn643
@richn643 11 месяцев назад
Hi I know this isn't relevant to the video,but can you recommend a diagnostic machine for a Citroen c4 Picasso 2013 mark 2 onwards thanks
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Just for Citroën? Depends what you want it for... An obd reader will be enough for codes... Anything more, you need a different tool... Diagbox will be you best option probably... 👍👍👍
@richn643
@richn643 11 месяцев назад
​@@LMAutoRepairsthanks so much for your insight and advice
@thebiker2655
@thebiker2655 11 месяцев назад
Move to Cornwall I'd make sure you'll be never out of work.
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ 👍👍👍
@laxonetrc
@laxonetrc 11 месяцев назад
Great video. Bodged Fiat 😂
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 11 месяцев назад
How could someone get black and red - and+ mixed up
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
🤷‍♂️ Seen it many times though... 👍👍👍
@PandaBero83
@PandaBero83 11 месяцев назад
@@LMAutoRepairsAgree! Happends more then you imagine
@JamesBond-op3ce
@JamesBond-op3ce 11 месяцев назад
👍👍
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
☺️ 👍
@mrgrumpy5116
@mrgrumpy5116 10 месяцев назад
😊👍
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 10 месяцев назад
Thanks! 👍👍👍
@sebastienbethge5324
@sebastienbethge5324 11 месяцев назад
Hi Luis , did the owner confess his lie at least ? Those fuse didn't blow without good reason and the ecu burned really well ... anyway congrats because fiat marelli is trash 😅
@LMAutoRepairs
@LMAutoRepairs 11 месяцев назад
😅 👍👍👍
@PandaBero83
@PandaBero83 11 месяцев назад
The Panda is acually Delphi.. But still as trash as Marelli!
@sowa6639
@sowa6639 4 месяца назад
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@lorenzome
@lorenzome 10 месяцев назад
Credo sia un'auto rubata! Io non la toccherei
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