Fighter Pilots Breakdown TOP GUN MAVERICK OPENING & DARKSTAR Scenes | Mover Ruins Movies Pt 1/8 

Personal theory: Mav died in the darkstar crash, rest of the movie is the hallucination he's having for the 10 miliseconds before he's turned into human tomato paste.

You gotta admit, the scene where he says, "Talk to me, Goose." then it cuts to the sunrise accompanied with the orchestra is just beautiful.

The reason for the Hornet stick is because it was an F18 that was used in this scene, the sonic boom that lifts the roof of the guard shack was real, in fact it was not planned, but accidental, DarkStar was CGI in the sequence, and the Mock up DarkStar aircraft build along side Skunk Works was used for close ups, taxing, ETC.. The most important thing that I enjoyed about this movie is getting together with many military veterans, active personnel, and their families. It was a joy hearing all of us making comments of our own experience with F18s, F14s, being on the carriers, seeing my squadron insignia VFA-151 and the tiger stripes on the F18s as they were taking off bringing back so many good memories, along with many familiar scenes of San Diego that I miss so much. Overall it was a great movie and I can't wait for the Blue Ray and I am buying a sick surround sound system too.

Actually the entire placement of the Darkstar sequence works fine for me, even as someone who knows Top Gun well. For anyone without prior knowledge of the franchise it introduces Maverick quickly and clearly, and for anyone else coming from the first movie the sudden slowdown pretty much reflects the place of the character at this time.

I didn’t have a problem with the Darkstar sequence (well, except for the whole surviving a Mach 10 wipeout). I think it helps set up the situation that he has finally mothballed his career. The biggest plot issue I have is one you have mentioned several times. Rooster. The movie never really shows us why he is “same old Rooster”. I think an intro after the opening sequence showing us Rooster’s problems is needed.

I assume the whole Darkstar plotline was a big, fat homage to the early Muroc/Edwards-Yeager days in general, and "The Right Stuff" in particular. That would explain the lax security (apparently, the early post-war test flights were conducted in a rather relaxed atmosphere, that is until General Albert Boyd moved the flight test center from Wright-Patterson out to the Mojave Desert), and the scene with Maverick appearing at the bar somewhat mirrors Yeager's crash in the NF-104A (amped up to 11). My head-canon explanation for him surviving the Darkstar completely disintegrating at hypersonic speeds is that I assume the Darkstar had a similar escape system as the F-111 (capsule).

I feel like the opening scene on the carrier could have led to a scene where the Hornets are supporting troops in contact in some unmentioned desert country. Then they could've explained that after 20 years of GWOT, focusing on air to ground combat, fighter pilots had lost valuable dog fighting skills, hence the need to expand TOPGUN and explaining Mavericks return

The whole point of that sharp transition from the carrier was to show Maverick’s isolation from the fleet…hence the scene when Warlock tells him this is where he belongs when back on the boat at the end.

That looks like he does about 30 degrees of turn a second (1/12th of a circle) at mach 9 (ballpark 2700m/s). The circle circumference is thus about 32,400m, which gives a radius of just over 5000m (2×pi×r=c). The acceleration on the airframe (a=v^2/r) is thus ballpark 1400m/s^2 or close to 144g... Physics ruins movies.

I'm an old fart, and was once stationed at Kadena AB when the SR's were still there. That after takeoff scene where you see the two burners climbing up into outer space. That's exactly what the SR-71 looked like after takeoff. I'll also note that F-117 flew almost exclusively at night for a long time until it was about to come out of the closet. This Dark Star was not the first. The LM RQ-3 Darkstar UAV was the first. At time my brother worked for an LM competitor on UAVs. After the first prototype crashed on its second flight he started calling it 'Dark Hole'. One last thing. I'm begging you guys to ruin 'Red Flag, the Ultimate Game'. This movie was made with full USAF support, before Top Gun. Mover, you are in this movie. As the Bad Guy! Because you picked on WSOs. It's on RU-vid. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HbvZhrt2NBo.html

I'm all ok with the darkstar sequence right until Maverick decided to TURN during a hypersonic flight.... I remember everyone else is like "cool, beautiful skies" and my inner soul just screams "WHERE PHYSICS!!!!"

Gonky nailed it the whole darkstar part was a tip of the hat to The Right Stuff including having Ed Harris (John Glenn in that movie) as the admiral. I think it fits storyline wise just they could have transitioned better but I am sure a lot ended up being edited out for time

The only believeable reason I see for Maverick's deliberately flying the Darkstar beyond mach 10, destroying it is that he knew after this unauthorised flight they would likely kick him out, or ground him permanently. And since he was in his self worth so dependent on his "naval aviator" identity (as he himself admits), it was his attempt to "go out in style" with that plane instead of being kicked out and grounded from fast jet flying. And spending the rest of his days sitting alone in his hangar, pining after what he no longer has. He had to know for some time that his friend Ice was quite ill and would retire sooner rather than later, and without his protection, his flying days were over. Bit of a suicidal streak there with the Darkstar.

I like Sandboxx's theory that the whole Darkstar thing is a wink from Lockheed Martin about a real plane in development. There used to be a page on their website about a manned hypersonic vehicle, which mysteriously disappeared once the military seemed to grow serious about hypersonic flight.

I was 9 when I saw the original in the theater, and it’s part of what inspired me to become a pilot, so I loved being able to see this one in the theater too. You just have to take it for what it is - a movie. Love the content…keep it coming!

I really enjoyed the part where Maverick pushed it - reminiscent of when Chuck Yeager pushed the X-1A AFTER breaking the record at 2.5 just to see where that “demon” was and losing the flight controls and ending in a flat spin before recovering the plane (and cracking the canopy with his head lol)

awesome breakdowns.. really enjoying the content and happy to see you both on a video always. if people actually watched all your content regarding this movie, they would know that both you and gonky enjoyed this movie and that "mover ruins movies" is something that's just done for fun and entertainment.

They stopped the Admiral and not maverick because they were in on it. They had orders to delay anyone who would prevent the test:-)

Some people take themselves far too seriously, and like to get offended about anything/everything. I absolutely love the banter between Mover and Gonky - and the addition of their experiences in the services. Keep up the ribbing and keep ripping into the movies. :-)

I just love the banter back and forth between you two and the commentary. Thank you both for your service

Unknown as to why I’ve yet to watch this video from you two?! Mover, Gonky, you two educate and make me laugh at the same time. Thank you both for your service to our country, plus thanks for your continued time making these videos for us all!

I love this reaction for the movie over the other reacts because these guys are legit military pilots.

I agree totally with the beginning, thought it would be better if using a dream of Maverick and Goose in F14 engaging dog fight to link the opening scene and Maverick's hangar scene.That , after opening scene, Maverick was airborne with Goose in a F14 , they entered a dog fight, but the bandit suddenly becomes a fifth generation fighter, when Maverick pull the eject handle, instead of ejecting, he suddenly woke up from his hangar.

We're not gonna discuss the fact that Maverick punches out traveling a couple miles a second and survives the heat of re-entry?

The quote "You're the only pilot who has shot down 3 enemy aircraft in the past 40 years" surprised me... Has dogfighting really been that rare over the past 40 years?

I quite like what Mover said about moving the Darkstar scene else where in his previous videos… Personally, I think moving it to the end of the movie, and cut it at the explosion, would be a perfect way to end the movie.

Space balls quotes never get old hahaha

I like how the roof of the guard shack isn't nailed down and almost flies off when Dark Star zooms by.

First time i saw the Darkstar I immediately thought to small. Look at the SR71 and the cockpit size in relation to the overall size of the jet. The SR71 is literally a flying gas tank and can hold up near 100,000 pounds of fuel to go mach 3.3. To go mach 10, it would require a lot more fuel.

There is a film theory that everything after the Darkstar wipeout is a dream. Maverick actually DID die when he hit Mach 10.3. The reasoning behind this is everything after the wipeout goes perfectly, he completes the mission, no loss of life, makes amends with Rooster and gets the girl. Maverick is basically living the dream in heaven.

The more I watch the movie the more I end up going with the “fan theory” that Maverick died in the Darkstar crash and the rest of the movie is Maverick going through all his regrets and reconciling with those moments in that small moment in his head. Kinda like a “death dream”.

I'm prior Air Force and I enjoyed your commentaries!

I’m glad you brought up the very good question of why Maverick was not just a well-compensated test pilot for Lockheed or Space-X or something.

In the original movie, Charlie said to him "Your not gonna be happy unless your are going Mach 10 with your hair on fire". I think thats why that was in there in the bar with his hair smoking after going Mach 10

Here’s to hoping one day a movie is made that’s more of a realistic fiction; a dramatic ‘slice of life’. Like the book Radar, Heat, Guns. Ever since reading that I’ve hope it’s be adapted into a movie. That being said, I really didn’t care for the first top gun film, but they really did a good job on this one

I was an avionics rate on North Island for 7 years, I thought it was hilarious that they made North Island into a Hornet base. The move took place at my old hangar as well, a hangar that was for MH-60s.

Actually as a fan of the movie, I really like your guys take on this…the real people…peace

9:07 as far as I know, all the F-117 flight tests were done at night, at least in the beginning, because they were afraid of soviet satellites. And when the thing was taking off, everyone on the base who wasn't cleared to see it had to stay indoors, it was that top secret. So launching this thing at night does make sense. But the filmmakers obviously did it so he can fly into the sunrise

love the ejection at MACH 10.4!! Haha, few pilots have survived MACH 1 ejections. Maverick would have been pink mist

Although I absolutely love Top Gun Maverick and I think it's one of the best movies that has come out in the past years, I think the whole Darkstart sequence was a bit unnecessary and pulled me out of my immersion.

I missed it on my first viewing, but I love the bumper sticker "i can't drive 55" on his motorcycle.

Didn't ruin my day, but you did make it better. Great video Mover

Yep the most unrealistic part of this is that the Darkstar is a Navy program😂😂

" it could have been the domino's guy"..another piece of gonky gold!!! Love it!

I liked the whole Darkstar sequence as it showed Maverick had grown since the last movie. Maverick isn’t going for Mach 9 for himself, he’s doing it so the people in the Darkstar program would still have a job.

I just stumbled unto your videos... Appreciate your service gentlemen! From real life to entertainment is a wavy line for sure. Love the fact you are respectful to the creative elements. Keep it up!

Thats No Hanger. That's a Giant Closet and Tom is right up the back of it. And also it's a part time Fudge Packing Factory.

I always thought it was practical but they just cut and spliced footage for the dangerous scenes. It’s actually really good CGI at least

I think this should be renamed to 'Fact Checking Movies with Mover' 😂. Love these videos because you can learn a few things about real world pilots, aircraft and ops. 🙌

First time i watched it, i knew already mover was going to make a video on this. PS you don't ruin movies, you just tell the truth. It would have been the same for all fighter pilot watching this movie

It's like the same entrance he had in Days of Thunder. Just rolling up on his motorcycle.

Thank you for your service gentleman

Hey Mover, I just saw a thing on Top Aces they're a private company that fly's ad air in F16's. It looked like they were expanding, and I immediately thought of you. You have experience in F16 & ad air! Maybe you could get a job there? Anyway just thought I'd tell you, even though you probably already know about them. Anyway hope your doing well and thanks for all the awesome content you've made.

I like the skunk on the tail. Obvious homage to Kelly Johnson and the Skunk Works. There was also an SR-71 with that tail marking.

Was filmed in my new home town. Nas Fallon. All actors were back seaters. The p51 is toms. The roof pop was real as I understand done by f18. The pilot got dressed down for it. We recently had a s.s. pass at low altitude. The bace admiral was not happy 😁. I know the bace cmc and the OP for ltcm.

The openning scene reminded me of the closing scene of "the right stuff"

The scenes with the maverick standing with the other guys is definitely CGI...there's no way that Tom Cruise is that tall.

"He'd be in front of all the stars" that line killed me

My initial problem with the Darkstar was "Why would the Navy ever be involved with a program for a plane that clearly could never be launched off the deck of a ship or serve maritime interests?" Darkstar would clearly be in the wheelhouse of the Airforce and not serve any foreseeable need that I can imagine for the Navy. Yet it looks like a Navy program from what the film shows.

I love when he says “maybe so sir…but not today” long live pilots!!! 🇺🇸💪🏼

Man! You guys were on it! laughed all the way through. Well done.

As an Australian fighter pilot, I have been obsessed with the navy and aviation for a very long time. When I turned 20, I decided to go to the US Navy and after 7 years of gruelling training, I made it into the navy as an F-18 pilot. Since I’m an Aussie, I made my callsign Bloke. I’ve been having such an adventure with the navy and been enjoying it for a long time. I watched Top Gun: Maverick and loved the movie. This is a great video.

H That sucks that the put the Goose references in there because he supposedly let goose go when he tossed the dog tags. I mean that’s what I took from it lol. I’m no Hollywood liberal though thank God

"All of the stars!" 🤣It's like getting you supervisor, his Manager, the Senior Manager's Manager, his Director, the Senior Director, his General Manager, the VP, his VPP, the President and the Chairman of the Board at your desk. You know there is no probable recovery of screwing it up that bad.

You just made me laugh out loud!!! it has to be REAL!

How I would debrief Maverick upon his return. 1. Were you aware that the aircraft was designed to have a max speed of Mach 10? 2. Where you aware that at some undetermined speed beyond Mach 10 the aircraft would disintegrate? 3. Was your plan to fly at 0.1 Mach shy of this unknown speed and then return to base? 4. Why were you unable to accomplish this feat-is it because you DON’T KNOW EVERYTHING?! 5. Would you like to pay for the jet in monthly installments?

I love how they say you're a idiot even know your a fighter pilot for years and you know your shit lmfao

So right about The Right Stuff inspiration. But you talked over the glass of water scene with the little boy. "Where am I?" "Earth." That got such a big laugh in the cinema. I thought it was pretty funny too.

You guys gonna do the rest of the movie, the real mission and tomcat scenes? I was prepping to watch another 2 hours after the training breakdown and now i realize there is no more to watch :D Kinda felt sad since it has been very interesting and i want more.

I just noticed something wrong and I usually try to ignore these kinds of things. The photograph Maverick sees on the wall of him with Iceman on the carrier deck has a caption that incorrectly identifies the aircraft carrier as the USS Ranger. It is clearly the Enterprise. I know they did some filming on the Ranger along with Enterprise but with the number 65, the distinctive construction of the tower at that time, and the establishing scene in the beginning and with the same skipper, I don't know how they labeled Ranger as the carrier they were on.

This movie is already really amazing! You guys make it 10 times better! I am laughing so hard!

I might going to be a pain in the backyard with this, but I would sacrifice a moment to the "old-school" paper-based calendar @0530, "instead of just looking at his phone". "DINNER WITH JOE" confuses me. I might not understand English pretty well, since that is not my native language, however I tried to do my best to find a female amongst the possible characters called Joe, and yet failed. These videos about TG2 just became my personal favorites lately and pretty much find overwhelming fun watching "Mover ruins movies". Cheers, mate!

since the movie came out there's a popular theory that Mav died in that test crash and the rest of the movie is his purgatory or afterlife making amends and getting closure... either way I do like the homage to the Right Stuff test pilots in that scene.

Personally, I think you guys are hilarious. Especially, being a former Marine infantry. I actually appreciate this movie more after watching your videos. Good stuff fellas, I love it!

There are Charter aircraft at North Island to ferry people back and forth to Catalina Island. I used to take them regularly to do estimate work when I worked at Navy Public Works.

If you zoom in under the initial explosion....you can just see it if you look real careful.....an escape pod.

I love how you break down what is real and not in movies. I don’t think you ruin the movie because I watch the movie before I watch your videos. I get a kick out of your commentary guys.

One of many fan theories is that Maverick died in the deathstar, everything that happens after is just a dream. Notice how noone mentions in the film about him crashing the deakstar 😳

Ed Harris was golden in this movie. dear Jesus, that scowl is practically a meme

I love listening to Mover! And Gonky! ... distinguished...😆

Maverick should own a Bearcat in his bachelor’s pad. I love the Mustang but Mover is spot on.

Having a Thrustmaster stick would cut development cost. It’s not realistic that they would go that route. Always reinvent wheel and go over budget.

7:36 that’s because that’s an SR-72 which is currently under production by the company that actually made the SR-71 and F-117 Nighthawk, the same company worked with the production of top gun I believe

“You got some balls stick jockey.” Roger maverick has his balls.

He stopped at the gate and guard shack to show his ID … lol 😂

I do believe, actual SkunkWorks personnel were consulted and assisted with the making of this "DarkStar"

Good to see you two again . Thx guys

North island does have F18’s. It’s the depot overhaul facility- when they took off on their test flights, the whole bay shuddered from the noise, lol!

Thank you for your service Gentlemen. Semper Fi!

How is it that after Mav ejects at Mach 10, he’s picked up by a helo, and, still in his flight suit, is escorted by armed guards into the admiral’s office, then is sent on his way “within the hour”, but Phoenix and Bob, after ejecting at 3-400kts, spend the night in the hospital?

Let’s see a show of hands from all the O-6s out there: how many of you can afford your own P-51? 😏

You guys are cracking me up. How many frigid baskets have y’all landed with?

@7:50, that is not the Thrustmaster Warthog, there is no FADEC RESET switch on a Warthog.

Cant wait for the end of movie flight scene review from you guys. Earned my sub.

i enjoy mover's voice of how the audience sounds to him 😂

I saw on "Entertainment Tonight" where Tom Cruise himself was stating that "I was allowed to place tiny HD cameras in specific cockpit places in those fighterplanes while the pilot flew the fighter around to simulate how it was done in the movie". Then the Melroseplace anchor asked "So you just placed your image in the cockpit for the movie" to which Tom Cruise just stated "Yes".

The part were he hits mach 10 has me wondering about the consequences of ejecting at that speed. I'm guessing death? But I don't know, I only fly little airplanes I've flown make fart noises when you hit the gas (Citabria 7ECA)

Maybe I’m wrong but I think the dark star plane was a little small. I figured it would be almost as big as the SR-71 considering it having scramjet engines.

Probably my 3rd time watching this series. Great movie and yes, you have to let go of some realism because is it a movie! Movers's comments and explanations are what makes this fun.

So I was an AF Security Police and in restricted area we were able to just wave people in with personal recognition