Fighting Bheki Cele’s bloodbath legacy 

Cele must be the most useless & incompetent of the incompetent and corrupt ANC

We are all extremely gatvol with just everything.

Cele being cadre deployed is totally incompetent

He was definitely the most worst police minister

Thank you for the work that you do Juanita.

The President appointed him and watched his useless efforts. The President must be held accountable.. He is responsible 😢

I believe the statistics are understated and are, in fact, worse. because so many crimes go unreported, because it's a futile exercise.

Bheki looks exactly like Freddie Kreuger from the 'Nightmare on Elm Street'

I would like say thumbs up to the minister, he is the right person for this ❤

A disgrace that Cele walks home with no explanation + a fat cat pension, leaving SA lawless in the grip of cartels + mafiosi + the morale of sapds at an all time low. Cele simply learnt nothing or he was an accomplish. And the ferris wheel kept on turning, adding insult to injury with easy bail, 5% chance of getting arrested, never mind getting convicted. SA do not deserve it + neither does he deserve a good nights rest in his mansion.

Good afternoon Chris, looking forward to have the show. Interesting topic. Well done. Keep up the good work

He is the mafia boss

Horrific! The entire system is broken! Justice needs a serious overhaul too - and that piggie in charge is definitely not up to it, she's too used to trough feeding. Why not bring in some of the old retired detectives to help train?

The ones that knew what they were doing left because domkops were given promotions without any knowledge or experience in the force.

Please please now now Cele must go to jail for long life stay. Say no no sorry Cele. No no free.

Our justice system has also been captured

Does Cele have something on Ramaphosa ? If not, how did he keep his job for so long ?

This is a perfect example to our people of what happens when we have poor / bad and useless leaders,who,s ego,s and arrogant entitlement behaviour leaves their duties and thus us in a huge mess, where chaos and mayhem rules with impunity, lets hope the stupid people have learnt a lesson, their last chance.very sad,such stupid people we are.

Why are crime stats only released half yearly. Is it for strategic purposes or is it the Government being slow in getting the figures to tally, or to manipulate the stats???

WHY are there no ankle bracelets put on dangerous parolees? Surely that is the way to keep track of them? (Let’s not even ASK why they are given parole!)

How about courts working a full 8 hour day

How do you not know where criminals get their arms from?? Every citizen know it's from police !!!

Where are the criminals getting military weapons: from the corrupt ANC cadres in the defense force, also old AK from when the they and PAC were terrorists/freedom fighters, if the weapons were not collected post 1994.

The one thing that gets my blood boiling is when a person is charge on 2, 3 or 4 accounts of something. Then the sentences for each crime is served concurrently!! Each crime should have their own time!!

The problem is the judiciary give criminals for serious crimes bail and then they go onto commit more offences, if less of them got bail there will be less crimes.

Dont complain. You pay taxes and by doing so you fund these fools.

They are getting their firearms from CIT robberies, SAPS, SANDF among others. Certain weapon configurations are unique to various organisations.

Absolutely necessary also to have an administrative that actually works

Cele must go to jail

Cele really must be properly investigated and charged. Even dereliction of duty at the very least. Im sure he was in cahoots with criminals. I recently learned that he lives down the road from Ramaphosa in Fresnaye. Do you have any idea what property costs up there. A plot was sold recently for 60 million. How does a teacher and useless minister earn enough to live like that?

What is the police to do when they're being fired on? The question of where they (the criminals) get their weapons - look no further than members of the police and members of the army.

Chuck Norris wannabe was the problem obviously

Each competition policeman should have a secretary to do the files so he can do his job not to sit in the office

The hat The Sofa's best! 🎉

Just love your show 🙏

The citizens begged Cyril to get rid of BekeCele, but he protected him.

How about keeping the officials granting parole accountable? Sounds only fair.

Wat n pragtige Afrikaanse / boeremeisie met so n mooi hart. Ek hoop haar man waardeer haar opreg?😊

How did he become appointed? As an active agent for crime?

And now cele is receiving a pension of thousands of rands every month

Do what America does, install trackers. Praat Afrikaans mens, Chris Steyn, ons is tweetalig.😮😮❤😮

Cele can now walk the beach

#OneAttackerOneBullet

Beki cele should go and join ActionSA Mashaba #loosers

Never be ashamed to us the word GATVOL. Cadre deployment is the root cause.

Please Cele !!!! Was a disaster!!!!!!! Clean the swamp!!!

He needs to go to jail he has so much blood on his hands

Problem starts when putting people in positions they are unqualified for.

That Madala Cele that thought that he is the "Chief of the village" like in the days of Shaka Zulu. Is there NO consequence for his mismanagement? If you not going to drive this issue then we will!! Can't get away with this and leave the current minister with cleaning up Cele's bowl-movent... consequences....

Why hasn't he been arrested and charged for his reckless governance when he was a minister.

He was a disaster as a minister for this country

He dressed like a mafia boss, which is exactly what he was imo

Ons land is werklik moer toe Dalk jare vat om we reg te kom 😢

Cele is evil

SAns have been reduced to commentators of their own demise. Talking about how its all falling apart but unable to do anything about it. ZONDO, phalapala, Simelani/VBS... it's an endless conveyor belt of drama, crime, exposes and no action. We will be hearing another case next week, then another the following week.

This is not the problem in the court system. The problem lies in the fact that no case must be heard without an interpretor. Even if all in the court, like the Judge, prosecutor, Complainad, accused, lawyers ext. are all speaking Arikaans. And the whole hearing must be translated into English.

This problem goes back to before '94, but is continuing under what should be much milder conditions. From about the mid-80's there was civil unrest that resulted in enough deaths to overwhelm just about any justice system (all needing to be investigated, and potentially prosecuted then punished). The only "social weapon" the government back then had was fear (not respect, for instance), and the ANC took over with huge amounts of (as it turns out, undeserved) respect that could've been used to tackle the crime problem at its roots. Enough said about that. It's just that we ought to be in a much better position than we're in, now. Things got easier and things got worse. How? The most important components are at the investigation end, and the punishment end. I think most good prosecutors will agree that the only way to win a case is to have a good investigating officer on it. Good cases make it through the court process, and even only slightly iffy ones don't. Possibly we're applying too high a standard of proof for our current circumstances. We're in an emergency, but the priority is to "keep up with the Joneses". That said, if you relax standards, you undermine the whole of our "Rechtstaat", so it's probably better to maintain all standards, and just try harder. This is a bit back to front, as far as the process goes, but I think the worst of our problems come from the fact that prisons just don't work. Not here, not anywhere, not even in the places where they've become just about literal hotels (although they malfunction less badly in some places.) How did we end up with prisons? The Victorians invented the ones we're familiar with, and I suppose you can go back through about 300 years of antecedents to those. Most of the world just followed. They all "kept up with the Joneses", with even the dictators trying to have the latest greatest prisons. Before that, though, the fear aspect of deterrence was a bit more violent. There was a time where prison was just where you waited to be actually punished. In a better world (where our government wasn't both corrupt and incompetent) I think we should be separating punishment (as revenge, basically) and rehabilitation strictly, and make punishment solitary, painful, and as traumatic as possible. Roughly, for at least one weekend the offender goes straight from work on Friday afternoon to the punishment centre, and gets subjected to things like sleep deprivation, cold and dark, all alone sufficient to make this something to dread. If when released on Monday there are some who aren't looking horrified, still, more harshness is required. No time for details, but you get the gist. Monday to Friday, there's the compulsory job. Have a selection. Go sit on the side of the river and throw stones in all day for R20/day, or find a better job than that - including actual jobs for private employers (gang bosses excepted). After hours, have the best you can manage in counselling etc available. The working week is for "rehab". For some offenders have "risk based detention". It's not a punishment per se, although it involves being kept in a traditional prison. The point of the detention is risk avoidance. So you'd keep child murderers here, for instance, because in their case messing with "rehabilitation" is gambling the life of the next victim on the prisoner's reform being real. When to release a risk based detainee? When they become "actuarially harmless". It's OK if you end up with a lot of lifetime detainees this way. We need some way of restoring some kind of order in the country, so let them be the sacrifice to that end. Why not? That's not "The Solution", just a set of suggestions to put on the table. Business as usual isn't working. Prisons where the prisoners have other prisoners for company, and to harm in various ways, if they're the ones we really need kept off our streets are just "crime universities". We need to avoid measures that deepen the corruption of individuals, not default to them. We need to do something differently, including differently to all the rest of the world (which is all just following the fashion of 1843, and trying to make it work less terribly, anyway, so doesn't offer the kind of guidance you often get from doing "what everyone's doing".) On the kinder side of this, we probably need ways for offenders to "work off their sentence". Behave as if you're an exceptionally good citizen for enough time, and aver with your mouth that this is where your heart is, now, and get some kind of break from the consequences of having a record. We could also work hard on just getting rid of crimes. Every crime we create (and most of them are ones we created) is a business opportunity for the wrong kind of businessman. Drugs and prostitution are things we could try to manage other than by criminal law (at least to some extent). Just for example, dope should be a state monopoly, sold in such a way as to keep sales volumes as low as possible (something you can't get a private business to do), with profits invested in managing such harm as the stuff does. Same goes for heroin, etc, as long as it turns out in practice that such measures just don't increase abuse levels. If the government is the cocaine dealer, the profits of cocaine use can be directed to dealing with the consequences of this, and you don't have the illegal arms dealer down the road running a drugs operation on the side. On the investigation end, one thing we could try is to offer offices in our police stations (or extra ones we hire) to detectives from other countries to learn their trade in. We have lots of crime, so lots of learning opportunities, if you see it from that point of view. (We get doctors who come here because we have such interesting ICUs, so why not try the same for police?) We need more detectives, we need better trained new detectives, we need investigation tools, etc, so we need to prioritize "The Rival Department", and fund this, but we should also ask for help if we can. (Justice serves the judicial branch of government, which is a "rival" - and sometimes literally so, if you look at how stingy Justice budgets are - to the executive and legislative branches.) Proscutors and magistrates are needed too (and it's about time to deal with the turnover problem - which comes from way, way back in time), but what might help more in the short term is to provide office assistants in prosecutors offices. A prosecutor is expected to simultaneously read and evaluate new cases, do final preparation for old cases, fill in various admin documents - time consuming, drop everything to deal with public enquiries without appointment, manage other court staff, track witnesses, etc, and then also conduct trials to a reasonable standard. (And from the public point of view, once that first hour of the day is over, there's no good way of making enquiries or appointments, because everyone's in court.) There's one more thing. The missing ingredient that should've made all the difference back in the day. Trouble is there's not that much credibility left. "Leadership" - and from the front - by way of respect, I mean. Public figures need to behave in an exemplary manner, and need to get hit hard if they fail in this. But now I've run out of breath, so at long last I shaddupa my face.

Cele didn't wear a gangster hat for nothing.

Well described Cele was all about him. ! The minister of health Aaron something is also all about him. Please Ramaphosa if you really want to turn this country around let him an Simelane GO!!!!!!

The minister's surname is Cele not Tshele. Start by getting that right 1st.

ooooooooeeee but PALESTINE 1sssssstttt!!🤮

Another who should be in orange overalls

Bhiki Cele operated as the police commisioner instead of the minister.

You got nice hands

I don’t see this changing in the near future. Yes the anc is not helping but this goes much deaper.

TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING STARVING AND DYING BUT NO,YOU LEADERS ARE MORE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR SALARIES FOR WORK DONE LIKE 💩.

Juanita seems to think it's all quite amusing.

The man was a garden boy .

This is a joke. When police are hard on criminals then these insignifinants come crawling out of the wookwork😢