It never clicked to me that 'losing is a chance to learn' isn't abstract, it's literally saying 'you just learned an exact thing that beats what you do'
You make the best fighting game content, hands down. I'm going to use this video to start a project on the parallels between fighting games and health/fitness. I hope you don't mind!
I believe this is my first video I've watched of yours. I love your message! It is so easy to get caught up in wins and losses, and not see the big picture.
It’s kinda hard to not think in a hierarchy when the game literally has an inborn tower that physically puts you above or below other players. Like a hierarchy.
All these videos are so Big Brain Zen level Grand Master Wisdom, that i just keep coming back. I love fighting games, and often i grind a game trying to improve, but often this just makes my friends not want to play with me anymore. 4 of us all got strive for the Ps2 memories we had, and boy this game is great...and i really like playing online, and showed alot of growth. But my friends just kept playing it casually, and now they dont even want to play anymore. And if i got them to play, i still outclass them and they dont rly like it. They still play other fighting games with me that i keep casual, because were all still at the same skill. But my desire to improve with Strive killed that game out of our Game Night. Same thing might happen with Dnfduel, we will play it and have a blast, but im the only one thats looking forward to grinding and improving ok that game, and it will get cut because of my improvements again.
I just sent this to my brother who picked up Strive last week. He doesn't play a lot of fighting games now compared to when we were kids, but he still loves Smash and plays it regularly. This will be a big help for him hopefully. Thank you for making these videos about mindset and mentality, they are so helpful and I really don't see a lot of people making videos about these subjects, especially for fighting games.
Good video, my favourite part is the small line about "enjoying the journey" this has ended up being my main way to keep myself grounded and having fun while improving. More specifically I like to do what Diaphone does is some of his videos, where hes in training mode at the start and hes found some cool mix up or counter hit confirm combo and then he goes online and plays a few matches specifically trying to land that. It's great fun and really takes the focus away from just winning or losing. Then when you pull it off in a serious match on the fly, feels godlike!
I'm gonna be honest I think this hierarchical view on fighting games is somewhat due to the perspective that the successful deserve their success, and vice versa for those who fail.
This is a big help especially in other games outside of strive. I feel like I should be performing at a certain level since I have played many games and done sick shit and then when I lose to players I consider worse than me it wrecks my mental. Really hard to detach the ego and just grind but there's no other way over it
Hey Romolla, could you maybe talk about outside rating sources like rating update in strive and how they can be used in a positive or negative way. I personally try to avoid looking at RU because I find I fall into the same trap of focusing only on winning but instead with wanting a higher elo. Just curious on your perspective on them
I’m no romolla, BUT I think the same thing applies. No need to obsess over your Elo and if you are only using RU to look at elo and compare yourself to other players, then you aren’t quite using it to the full potential. It shows match histories and w/l in certain matchups. It’s a good resource for checking which matchups give you a problem. You can also check overall matchup spread, but much like our beloved deb says, just avoid using it as a direct comparison tool.
Nice video! Helped me look at my mental state when it comes to fighting games as a newcomer since my fps mindset carried over when I was learning how to play.
'Why do I (or rather, why did I) want to rush things?' Let's see, I'm close to being 40 years old with questionable health issues here and there, and knowing it takes years (maybe decade) to 'get good', I wanted to rush it. Because I'll be real, you begin to feel it. I don't play more than 20 matches, and exceeding that certain threshold makes me feel mentally exhausting. Nowadays, I don't really care anymore because I started enjoying other genre of games more (ah that's the other thing, your preference in enjoyment may change depending on your life changes too). I came to terms and stopped entering any brackets because I'll never be consistent at tourney level due to various reasons (time, energy, money, etc), so just play few matches and go back to backlogged games like Control for example.
Being negative towards myself is the only thing I'm actually good at. What an awful situation to be in. As I get higher in this game I somehow get worse. I can't speak for others, but as far as rushing progress... I'm 40 and I just picked up fighting games. I'm so far behind the field I feel like if I don't rush, I'll never make progress.
THANK YOU COW LADY !! You always make great points imo, not just about fgs but about life too But once you recognize your mentality is off, how can you change it effectively ? I mean you can become very violent with yourself like "SHHHHHH, DON'T THINK THAT WAY, IT'S BAD" but then your mentality doesn't really change, you just put the old one under the desk if that makes sense
I've been stuck in that f10 with celestial friend situation for awhile, but I'm more so depressed that I can't get better enough to even have a decent match with him anymore. The skill difference has become so great that I just feel like a training dummy for his pressure and mix.
For someone to be beaten by a player of a lower floor, I guess this proves that matchups aren't strictly a relationship between the game's characters, but can also exist between two different players: hypothetically, a floor 10 could have average defence, offense and combos, but a floor 9 could have weaker combos, defence, yet have strong offense to pry at your defence. Their offense doesn't even need to be objectively strong, it could just be targeting strike/throw, and you could be fine with everything else but strike-throw for some reason. So, just because someone loses consistently, that doesn't mean that they aren't capable of at least one really strong strength (as if they were Season 1 Goldlewis)
They also could have fell to floor 9 after losing to VIP players on floor 10. Hell I was floor 8 the other day and for some reason the game wouldn't let me play anyone on Floor 10 so I had to go down and beat up on floor 8 players as a lvl 170 with 3000+ games. I've seen other lvl 100 or so players down in floor 8 or 9 too, though the average lvl is usually around 50-70. But yeah, I agree. The player MU is more important than the character MU at every level except the very top level. Skill is a very hard thing to judge and games don't really do a good job of it in the first place. Maybe you play very patiently so people who force all the time just kill themselves against you, but they beat other players who play recklessly. It could also be a very specific piece of information one party has over the other. Just because someone is in Celestial for instance, doesn't mean they consume all the content on patch notes and tech and stuff.
Hi Romolla, thank you as always for the content, it helps me a lot to keep myself grounded when netplay has me down. I’m definitely in the “want to be competitive” bracket, but I find myself struggling really hard at finding ways to improve. I’ve been stuck on Floor 9~10 since launch. I usually have a schedule of 20 minutes training mode and 40 minutes of netplay, but it feels like once I get into a match I am in scramble mode 90% of the time and I struggle to focus on what is happening, especially against fast aggro characters like Gio and Chipp both full screen and on defense. What can I do to improve my training regimen against these kinds of characters? And what can I do to he more mindful in a real match? Any input would be really appreciated.
It sounds like you have trouble against characters and players that just run at you and force stuff. I'd recommend getting in the habit of recognizing what happened when you lose neutral, and what could have stopped it, or what could have beat what your opponent did. It also could help to just slow down, and try to play more reactionary, so you aren't scrambling as much and can recognize when your opponent does something dumb. replay analysis could help to slow down and figure out why you're dying, and how to scramble better, or make your opponent scramble worse. a lot of this is stuff that's worked for me, so i hope this helps!
I would actually argue against the idea that set count doesn't matter in casuals. I play Chipp. So my perception of the game experience is inherently skewed. If I hit my super OD wall run combos, and perfectly time my safe jumps and execute my corner mixups flawlessly, I'm going to feel like I'm doing really well, but if I look up at the score and it's 0-7, it shows me that even though I'm getting the hits and doing the technical stuff, I'm losing the neutral and spacing game enough that it doesn't matter. Because chipp inherently needs to be winning neutral substantially more than the other guy in order to win games. So even if I'm opening them up twice as much as they do me, I'm still going to lose and I need to improve my game to compensate for that
It depends. You could schedule a FT10 with a friend to play seriously, as in tournament mode, but you have to decide that from the start. When playing casuals (mostly with random people on the internet) it's good you have a goal other than the score, like trying a new setup or learning X match-up better, or even working on countering a specific move, losing a bad habit, etc. It really depends on what casuals mean to you, and when you're actually just playing.
Dont know if this is the place to ask but what you would recommend to someone who was very excited about reaching Celestial and learn more and now that finally did it you can due to high ping being at issue at that level (was always playing at 5 rollback frames that nobody did mind at lower levels), server for my region is pretty much dead and cant really find matchups at the time I play so I kinda feel like quitting altogether
i feel like im stuck, ive learned some bnbs but i feel like in every match i always hit the wrong option and end up getting washed, i hear the counter sound a lot
Bruh same. Even when I played super defensive looking for certain attacks I still get dragged lol I've literally put more time into training mode than the actual game
does anyone know the song that plays around 4 minutes in? it was used as the into music for a podcast i listened to but i could never find it, hearing it in this video gave me intense whiplash LMAO
