I tried this out too. When I was tilted, I played really bad, my pressure was awful, I even dropped an autocombo. When I played in a good mood, I realized I’m just bad at the game.
My school literally just emailed me a survey for a study on the “toxicity” and “tilting” of online games. It was more for FPS games, but it was interesting. My favorite question was, “Do you think toxicity is a strategy?” and honestly, I’m kinda inclined to say yes. Also had questions like “have you thought of killing people,” and, “have you doxxed/SWATed someone” so weird survey overall.
The survey sounds like it's in bad faith tbh. Like, asking if toxicity is a strategy is interesting, but asking if you've ever doxxed, or thought of killing someone comes off as questions asked by people that think video games cause violence.
I don't think people are gonna take me seriously when I say this, but complimenting your opponent could help you stay pretty chill throughout matches. I used to rage, but then I started getting on the comms and try to create a positive vibe by complimenting my opponents and that keeps me calm. In our quests to be the best, we forget to chill out and have fun.
Agree, it helps me to just focus on what my opponent is doing good (especially saying it out loud) and I can both more easily appreciate them but also find what they aren't as good as by elimination process. Like if my opponent is really good at airthrowing me I'll try to adjust my air approaches, if my opponent can convert combos really well I'll respect their options much more. Also irl it just helps to bond a little with the other player
In a weird way for me, the biggest thing you can do to calm me down while beating my ass is weird and very cool tech im not the kind of guy to go "what the fuck was that thats bullshit!" and more *"YO I WANNA DO THAT TOO"*
I super agree with you on complimenting the opponent; even if they can't hear you I think it helps too. It's also a way to understand why something happened through a less emotional lens.
I agree 100% but only in fighting games. In games like Counter Strike i would never say something that could build confidence in my opponent, too much deception and intel are involved in those games
1. As a commentator at SaltyEU & SML thank you for the shoutouts! And keep loving JustDave he's the best man ❤ 2. The bravery you have to show yourself tilting is impressive! Tilt happens to everyone and you need to learn how to deal with it. Bless.
As an almost 100% tilt proof player, who can't help my buddies at all not tilt, I hope that I can show them this video and remind them that at the end of the day, it's a game.
I swear I mean this as a compliment, but as someone who gets very very salty way too often, hearing you say things I know I say was the best help I could ask for. Thanks for making this. It's an every day part of my journey here, I'm married and talk about it with my wife... It's easy to dismiss but it's real stuff. And the way we treat ourselves matters! Great stuff as usual!
Entering weeklies has done great for my FG skills and mindset overall, I love the environment of tourneys and find that ranked matchmaking tilts me much much more than feeling crap about a tourney placement.
Tips I have for keeping my mental in check: Deep breathes or any breathing exercises. It'll help lower blood pressure. In between matches give yourself positive affirmations. Focus on how to improve from your mistakes instead of letting them eat you up. During longer breaks get up. Grab some water, go to the bathroom. Just take a minute away from the game. Hot Box my bathroom. It is hard to be mad when you are high af.
This is going to sound corny, however meditation, at least for me, helped a ton. I get it, people make meditation sound like the answer to all life problems, but even though I haven't meditated in months, I still feel I can apply basic concepts I learned when playing fighting games. When I lose to an unfavorable matchup, it becomes "aight, fair enough," and not me bashing my controller. It allows me to actually ENJOY fighting games, I see myself laughing more often than usual. Hell, it's the only reason why I can even play skullgirls, I'm just focused on what I can do to improve. I wish I did that earlier, because I burned myself out on many fighting game as I felt hopeless.
Rare to see someone who does this practice too! Meditating is like resetting your mental fortitude that you exhausted in a match, because its really easy to take a frustrating loss and try to "run it back" without knowing/understanding why you lost but then that feeds into itself. A focus on mending the mind and learning from losses makes the climb to being better much more enjoyable.
Hey. For those of you who struggle with mental barriers, I highly recommend you read Playing to Win: Becoming the Champion by David Sirlin. It's a very short book. You could probably read the whole things in a sitting or two.
To be honest I would consider managing your mindset to be pretty important for effective tournament play. you'll often be in scenarios where you've got a lot of intense energy to manage, and you're about to go over the edge. Things like that cause people to pick panic options or forget their core strategies.
I'd say that there is nothing inherently wrong with getting angry, since getting a shot of brain chemicals and heart rate associated with it do have certain benefits. I've done combos I know I couldn't do calm when I get angry, and also have a few instances where my shifting from a normally rather cautious and passive style to an aggressive one, or from textbook to "I'm just going to do what I think is likely to let me punch you in the face even if it's just jabs" have gotten me to go from what might have been an 0-3 to a 2-1, at least online. Harness it, control it, do not let it control you.
8:50 I'm that Pot player XD. The skies are now safe PS: Thanks for featuring me and those edits are damn funny hahahha - Let's play some casuals anytime :)
Good advice. This helps even though I don't think tilt is necessarily my problem. Not that I don't experience it, but my biggest issue in any competitive game that requires a lot of focus is that I get over excited when I do well, like I can't believe I'm actually doing well. I tense up, lose the rhythm that got me ahead to begin with, and totally choke. I blow it with stupid mistakes. I guess that's normal. It's emotional, so I it's kind of about tilt/mental. Anyhow, that would be an interesting angle to cover.
honestlly gekko you are one of the best fighting game youtubers ive ever watched and ive learnt so much about fighting games from you and most of the time i dont play fighting but watch your vids anyway
Dude, I fucking love your videos. It's clear that you're having fun recording, playing and scripting. Many FG creators don't seem to realise that maybe we take FGs a bit to seriously sometimes, and everything you do proves that you're playing and learning better when you're having fun. Keep it up!!! :D
Been watching you from the start-Great job with the videos :). You've gotten me into the FGC community so just wanted to show my appreciation to a fellow Brit
IIRC the word tilt came from pinball not poker, pinball machines have a tilt sensor to see if players are tilting the machine and it could go off if a player gets angry and hits the machine
Watching this in 2024 and it’s still extremely entertaining and informative I’m a Mortal Kombat player so my fellow kombatants can get really toxic really fast but breathing exercises, going out to the gym every day or so and having a bottle of water nearby really helped me mentally I still rage at times but not as much anymore
YTTD OST??? Damn, didn't expect that from you. Fun video nonetheless! Especially when you took it upon yourself to be salty and even caused environmental havoc on your desk.
tilt is by far the most interesting thing in fg's. some people get BETTER with tilt, some people play to get their opponent tilted (me), some people are held back HEAVY by their ease of becoming tilted. mental game is so interesting
whenever i play any fighting game but especially ones im not good at, i try to remember that each match is a learning process and an opportunity to improve. if i lose, it's because i simply made the wrong choices at the wrong time and my opponent did the opposite. if i win, i feel proud of myself but i never let that go to my head. i feel that one of the keys to a strong mental is to never lean too hard into your ego or you'll always lose that balance and the spirit of what actually makes fighting games (or any competitive game, or ANY GAME IN GENERAL) fun 💜
@@ahoy4301 If you notice yourself getting gradually more frustrated, you can't directly control your emotions, but you can always control your reactions and what you tell yourself. Sometimes taking a quick 5 minute break can help to cool down, or just stopping for a deep breath.
Personally I get tilted af way more often playing online in fighting games. Lag spikes, online gimmicks ect even if I win a set having to deal with those I get tilted. Offline more or less dont get tilted its only if I over think things then I get tilted more at myself. Remembering to go character select/taking time to decompress the tilt so it doesnt carry on through out the set is the most important thing imo. Conversely if you can read you opponents body language and they're showing a bit of frustration/tilt/stress go for the jug do things soley to frustrate/tilt them
I personally find that getting blindly mad makes me play better! This is like the time I blew off my science fair until the morning of and submitted my brilliant hypothesis that a plant will grow better if it gets sunlight and water.
My first game in a Saltmine tournament, I had the top1 Faust player EU against me. The stomp was such that I couldn't even be salty, it was just delightful to witness this
As soon as I get tilted I just abuse the things the opponent fails to punish properly it's spamm 100% and I'm sorry but it works and I feel SOOO,, disappointed that I cheesed my opponent who is obvi better than me but is missing a small knowledge check. In Tekken it's easy to find something people are unaware of
I embrace the tilt, when I moved to the city for uni I would just sit and play against the best players in my area for hours. Get my ass kicked forever, eventually though... I got my ass kicked a little less
In fighting games I think grapplers cause the most tilt and mental loses as an example you can be winning and vet hit by one grab from potempkin and now you lost all momentum and the health advantage and feel on the defensive can't even count how many wins I got from pot because one grab forced a mistake
hmm yeah i think its a good strategy to take a time to let the steam blow out eventually. Playing non stop eventually will get to you, specially if you are starting to tilt, because you progressively start playing worse and worse, its a vicious circle.
Sadly each time I lvl up and get better at the game, the easier it is for me to get titled because someone does something stupid that I know how to punish it but I get hit by it. And yes better players said it’s because my timing is in defence and offence. Btw my main fighting game is tekken, soo In range 0 it’s all about frames and understanding there timing when they press. The thing is changing this habit requires getting hit by things that u would normally won’t get hit by, just because you’re trying to step block/fuzzy guard or interrupt there slow move. Anyways when I was a noob I was as afraid trying new things or losing, but now to hit high lvl tekken I have to lose over and over again by trying advanced defensive techniques, because these players won’t throw out launch punishable moves.
i only get tilted w stuff out of my control--fluctuating delay is far and away the biggest trigger. playing persona, smash, tekken online makes me so salty 😂
If it's out of your control and only happens every once in a while, it can be kind of freeing to just start thinking of it as the cost of doing business.
I personally just depends on the game like Strive tilts me a lot compared to the new KOF which ironic is a harder game but feels way less bullshit. Tilt to me at least is how wack the game is with what I personally don't like to see which is like TODs and carry momentum.
The reason why i dropped fighting games, the better you get, the less fun the game becomes until you just use 10% of a characters kit and thats not fun.
@@martmine4618 agreed. FGs are at their best when both you and your opponent are scrubs, mashing buttons and talking shit. The people that made this a science sap the fun out of this stuff.
In my opinion, this video really falls flat in attempting to examine tilt in competitive games and giving advice. I understand that constant losses can involuntarily put you in a bad mood, and that getting away from the game for a bit and hanging out with friends can help with mindset. Despite these good points, it's not as hard as you make it seem for some to play games competitively without going full rage, calling the game bullshit, and smashing their keyboard. It doesn't require you to "touch grass" to maintain composure in a fighting game, even when getting your teeth kicked in. A basic amount of discipline and self control is sufficient for a lot of people. Your "experiment" with these two tournaments doesn't come close to a realistic look at how tilt affects people, because it only looks at how it affects you, and I would be skeptical of your advice on this topic judging from your reactions in the first tournament.
