As a filipino this is so disturbing to hear people against this ban. The idea of me getting married off younger than 18 to some nasty old man makes my skin crawl. Filipino girls should be protected from this trauma!
India is debating on raising the marriage age of girls from 18 to 21.....21 for both male and female......It's addressed in parliament and hopefully will be passed later on
@@JitzyJT this is just what I thought, Countries should raise the marriage age because 19 below is still a development age of a child. Its way to young and still not mature.
Islam does not protect children or women. In fact it harms them in many ways. It can protect them in some ways too of course. but over all many of its rules are unacceptable.
The reason why the rape cases are low sa Basangsa Moro group is because it is frowned upon to report such cases and it will also bring shame to the kid & their family. It’s not because it’s not happening, it’s because it isn’t reported.
In their culture children don't have rights, what's insane is that western influenced people like assume everyone else should follow under your colonization.
@@emmahas2moms8038 Western influenced people should consider the rights of children? I'm sure it's not only Western people that consider the right of children and am pretty sure this is exclusively a Muslim thing.
@@NZDivine No, the Middle East and Asia have been practicing this for thousands of years before the round eyed started to try and act like the 21st century crusaders. To abandon practice(s) established by one's ancestors is to bring not only shame to the family but is an act of treason.
@@emmahas2moms8038well you are allowed to practice your traditions and beliefs but your right stops when you are harming other people’s well being. Child marriages are already proven to be dangerous to the welfare of a child. Saying that you don’t care because it’s your tradition and belief inspite of knowing this is just hypocritical.
Sick of people using their religion or culture in this twisted way. What I honestly want to ask how waiting just a few more years is a huge deal?? Children should not have to raise babies 🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@era7928 just stop. I don't care what your religion or cultures says, marrying children is plain wrong. If marriage was so important to do at a young age why can't they wait a couple more years till they are legal adults? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@jennimeow9894 I was mentioning to your sentences of " using their ..... in twisted ways ". No, they are not using ... in twisted way etc etc. It is just twisted. Everything is written there. Few countries trying to straighten it, but still the practice happened on area that are far from law reach.
Me as well! The women seem to have a different perspective. I'd also be interested to see the different perspectives depending on class (although this might be too complicated to conduct) since its observable that over the years, many who belong to the middle to upper class are pushing their children to attain higher education for professional purposes and marry much later than their parents did.
Yeah, the one hijabi didn't seem too keen about child marriage compared to the Muslim men. It seemed like she experienced something similar too or maybe someone she's close to. But maybe I'm wrong.
Well, their was a muslim girl (a child) who was married to an old man and when the girl was interviewed on national tv she said she was okay with it.. the thing with culture is when you grow up and you were taught that something is how its done and that its okay, you'll think that is okay.. that its normal.. only when you are removed into that environment and someone teach you on how is that wrong until then you'll realize how wrong it is.. that's why you have women who don't realize that they were being sexually assaulted or that its their fault for being assaulted because the majority dictates the norm
@@arcdave2735 Yes, but I don't think that what is wrong and harmful to people is that relative. Maybe that's not what you meant, but it sounded like it. So, often I hear how women felt bad in a situation without knowing why and just when they were taught that what they experienced is wrong they understand why they felt bad about something. I don't know about the specific girl you mentioned, but I find it hard to believe that having s*x at that age (if you mean an actual child and not an older teenager) and probably needing to do chores all day without being able to play with children her age isn't harmful to her psychologically. And having s*x with a ch1ld can also be very harmful physically.
@@solar0wind well according to dictionary a child is below 18. I looked up her age and its 14, one is even 13 and they said they are ok with it. For example is the person i know was raped and she think it was her fault, do you know why she thinks that way?? Its because back then victim blaming is not bad, its seen as normal. I used to think that way too when i was a kid, that a woman wearing showing a lot of a skin is an invitation to sexual assault only when i began reading a lot did that change. The values and principles and what is taught to us in childhood shapes the way we think and when a child is taught that getting married is her duty and that it is okay then she will grow thinking that its okay. Its like back then in medieval times when 13 yr olds are deem old enough to get married because it is seen as a norm.
My fellow Muslim Filipinos please throw the old past tradition and become more logical and progressive for your own childrens sake and for the country ✨
Yassss this is what I mean when I said younger generation of Muslims are more open minded. TBH, it's easier to communicate with the younger generation because they are more likely to listen. The older generation only want to be heard but when things are against their wants,they'll always rant and say that they are getting deprived by the gov't because the majority is Christian 😔
It's so disappointing to know that people are against this ban especially if the intent of the marriage is to have a child or to have an arranged/forced marriage. Children shouldn't be raising other children nor do something just to "save their family name".
@@oooooo3820 Actually no. Economic development has nothing to do with it. Despite what this video makes it look like, child marriage is NOT common at all in the Philippines. The average marrying age of Filipinos is 27 for women, and 29 for men. The legal age of marriage in almost all of the Philippines is 18. Marriage below that age is illegal. Arranged marriages is also non-traditional and virtually unknown (unlike neighboring countries). You don't seem to realize that the Philippines is around 90-95% Christian/secular, and is pretty high (higher than most first world countries) in terms of gender equality. The problem only exists among Muslim minorities in the Muslim Autonomous regions in the far south, which are composed of regions with some special laws and exemptions based on Shariah. Originally meant to give them more rights given that the rest of the Philippines is overwhelmingly Christian. Some have used these laws to legalize arranged marriages and child marriages, because they believe that these are "traditional" in Islam.
@@AngryKittens I wish I'm n ot Filipino I wish I was born Somewehre else than helholle Phillppines Why Can't I born is somewhere else Like Canada UK AUSTRALIA USA than this country
@@hermeslein6614 Mahiya ka naman. Ang pathetic mong pakinggan. EDIT: Judging from his other posts in the comment section, this guy is a 50cent party troll. He's not even Filipino. -_-
Calling rido a "family feud" is an understatement. It's a war between different clans, where both families literally kill members of the other family in response to a perceived insult or crime. Including people who are not even involved in the original conflict, but are related. And it can originate even from an ordinary fight. It becomes a cycle of revenge killings. Sometimes the original reason is long forgotten. It's one of the oldest problems in Muslim areas in the Philippines. Using rido as a justification for child marriage is patching evil with another evil.
@@AngryKittens I've heard stories of entire families not being able to leave their houses or go into town, least their members end up dead. Imagine living always in fear, thinking that your life is being targeted because some idiot said or did the wrong thing generations ago?
@@BeastChaeng I just realized what the exact translation for it is: Vendetta. It contributes quite a bit to as to why most of the Autonomous Muslim regions of the Philippines gets pretty much zero tourism or visitors from other areas of the Philippines. And why they remain the poorest regions in the country.
I don't understand. Why would marrying a child be a solution to "save the family" from these "family feuds" instead of marrying an adult woman?.....is it impatience?
Probably because, by marrying them young the pedophile will have alot of time to make the mind of the kid and "mold them" into what *he* wants...a submissive and ignorant woman won't get any ideas other than doing all her husband wants and serving him "as she should"... I bet *THIS* is the main reason why these geezers want to end up with children.A grown woman might ready have "ideas" that won't make her as "submissive" as these eunuchs desire.They want total control, they want to be seen as gods by their "wives". Yeah, it's that disgusting.
It's a very old historical attitude that has thankfully declined in most places - the idea that children, especially girls are chattel and the household have an obligation to uphold their legacy by arranging some form of marriage. One of the most famous stories in western canon, for example, Romeo and Juliet has its setting a generations spanning family vendetta and a young daughter being prepared for her role in a political marriage, which is pointedly condemned by Shakespeare. As states have centralised and individual rights become more codified, these traditions have declined although they are still present in areas too remote or with weak central governments.
Love from India. I thought India has so many of these problems, but it seems it is not just India. If somebody cannot drink or drive, they should not be forced to marry. It is just stupid that we are finding excuses to get children married. Child marriage is a big problem in India despite the laws. 40% of the world’s 60 million child marriages take place in India. But as people get educated, we are hoping this social evil will eventually disappear.
@@CHAEV1S You don't know basic biology? When you enter puberty you have sexual drive which would make you want to marry someone because sexual interecourse outside marriage would be a sin according to the religions. In the west today all those ages you wrote are having sexual interecourse outside of marriage and it's viewed as normal...
@@CHAEV1S Can you not read? Because clearly you missed the whole point. You can't have sexual intercourse without marriage in the religions... Nice reading comprehension. Also stop liking your own comments. It's cringe.
‘Sad and Dispirited’ WTF, think about all the children forced into marriages and the decades of abuse they have endured. Who cares if it affects the Muslim community, forced marriages for underage people is disgusting and should have always been criminal.
I think the "leaders" are concerned about their predation practices(financially forcing the poor families to wed their young girls to old people), taking "advantage" of the poor family's situation.
I had my first period when I was 9, and he's saying that girls are okay to marry once they got their period. That's horrifying. I know he said 13, but their are girls who will have it earlier or later. I respect our Muslim kababayans but I'm glad that child marriages are now banned in our country. Also, this man really think about the girls' age automatically and not the boys' age when he is a man (if you get my point).
@@purpel6034 When I was asked that question I think of myself, or other girls/women because I can somehow relate to them. Then, the one man in the interview think about the girls' age when it comes to marriage and not boys/men. I don't know maybe I don't make sense😅
I've observed that in these laws to ban child marriage, it's mainly the muslim community who are against it(I'm not saying all muslims are bad), they say it's against their culture but should it really matter. Something which is clearly wrong should'nt stay for the sake of "culture". It's these muslim leaders who oppose anything progressive. Even in India the main opposition came from the muslim community since it's against "culture". culture shouldn't matter in law
It's basically the fact that them profiting from this particular form of child abuse and human rights violation has now become illegal makes them "sad and dispirited". And now they play the victim, saying their rights are always being trampled on....uhm who is trampling on whose rights? They act like people are bullying them.
As a Muslim myself, I am very shocked to see this and I find it very wierd that they are using Islam to support child marriages. Its totally rediculous. I am from north India and my caste/community is called Gaddi/Gazi(agriculturist and cattle rearers) which came under the category of OBC(other backward caste) in my country because of being educationally and economically backward. Yet, we don't have child marriages at all. They are way to rare. Reason: it's not our tradition!! In our tradition, people got married b/w mid 20s to late 20s and sometimes till mid 30s. While in other muslim community like the Ansari(weaver community), there, people usually get married in early to late 20s. Every community in Muslims has there own tradition about marriages and same goes with Hindus here. Cuz, neither Islam nor any other religion have given any age criteria for marriage. So, stop using Islam or any other religion to support your cultural evils.
FYI Rape can also happen in marriages and sadly it is very common but unfortunately this was always normalized/brushed off. 😔 Let's collectively smack those men interviewed here who opposes this law. 😤🙄
i was LOOKING for a comment like this, THANK YOU-- although this is a great first step, marriage doesn't solve ANYTHING. people get abused by their spouse and aren't protected or even supported by others because they're married and that it's part of it?????? the age of consent should change and people need to be educated more on safe sex.
I support the lawmakers here. They're supposed to separate religion from state. And that's exactly what they did. End of the day, there is no way you can please 100% of the population. But they've got to make the laws for the majority.
Islam really doesn't justify child marriage, so this is more medieval values mixed with a need to justify them by calling it cultural differences in these Muslim community
The fact that there's people against that law is not only concerning but also absolutely disgusting. I am in shock that anybody would actually oppose this. It really shows that some parts of the world need very serious development. That whole muslim argument is also just stupid. No religion in this world should have the power to decide over young peoples lives like that. It's disgusting and should be very much prosecuted in every single legislative in every corner of this world. Let young people make their own decision and make sure, nobody can interfere with that.
Yeah its muslims who are against it.. and their reasonings are effed up. One even said to me that a child is better of to be married and has kids than to have teenage pregnancy and not married. Its practiced in the muslim regions and girls as young as 11 are being sold off into marriage with men that can be their grandfather
Recently legal age raised to 21 in India from 18... And mostly everyone accepted this law.. I hope pH people also accept this law for the future of child's
@@raulpinedo1242 well... I don't understand y parents think their daughter as a debt so they want to marry them as fast as can..... And this bill for all community.... So let the child think for themselves... And let them live there childhood
The legal age of marriage in the Philippines is and always has been 18. Child marriage is only a problem in the Autonomous Muslim region where the legal age of marriage is 15 for boys and onset of puberty for girls. This only applies for a minority that constitutes around 5% of the Philippines.
@@AngryKittens I wonder y always so many issues & controversy comes from this particular community only across globe .. Looks like they (not all) hates to adjust & accept
Smh I can't believe there are some who are upset about the ban. Wouldn't you want to have the children not worry about marriage at a young age and let them go to school or have fun?
@@hermeslein6614 Not everyone practicing the same religion have to fully support everything others within that religion do or say. It's not like it's a law, so if they don't agree and side with the Filipino Muslims against the ban, they are no less a Muslim for it.
_Found the pedophile..._ Amazing how the adults do the crime and the kids "pay the fine". It must be very easy to push their responsabilities and obligations unto their children, "let them fix this"...ತ_ʖತ
Considering the fact marrige is one of the expensive, massive challenging contract between both parties, age restriction would be a minimum bar to protect the minor who has right to be educated and build their own belif untill they reach adult with full of lawful right and duty.
The women’s response compared to men are so different. One man said as soon as you menstruate, you can marry 🤯 the girl is still figuring herself out..
@@goodmorningfrommt the man said that because there's zero chance he is the 13 yo girl who is going to be married off to someone, impregnated and then have a large chance to die in childbirth. Only someone who sees children and women as inferior, or not even as human, would be okay with what he said.
I was shocked...like some nine yr olds can have their periods already... The body is also not ready to give birth, i just want to punch the bs that is coming out of his mouth
Great job to the Phillipine government! Child marriages in Islam are one of the worst human rights violations around the globe. It infuriates me to see pre-pubescent girls married off to full-grown men. This should never have been allowed, and everyone should condemn it.
I am Muslimin Bangsamoro/Maharlika/present-day "Philippine" and I am fully in support this law. Child marriage is completely wrong period. and was never endorsed by Islam, let alone not declaring actual value-based marriageable age
It WAS sanctioned by Islam. At what age was Aishah when the prophet married her? We all know the answer from the ahadith in madrasah.. Answer: She was 6 years old. What kind of example was that? :(
Bruh can you even imagine getting married when you just had your first menstruation?? I had my first menstruation when I was 11, id straight up kill myself if I have to get married that early
kudos to the filipino, they are one step ahead of us in indonesia, and to the guy in the video who opposed the law who are you kidding with, underage mariage is a force mariage in a sense as they are not mature enough to make such a big decision and often they can't go against their parents
How are they one step ahead of Indonesia? Age of legal marrige in Indonesia is 19. Majority of people in Indonesia are muslim, but unlike in the PH, we support the law
@@fakyu9346 Age of legal marriage in the Philippines is 18. The average age of marriage in the Philippines is 27 for women, 29 for men. Child marriage is a problem only among Muslim Filipinos who live in an autonomous region that have their own special laws (based on the Shariah) that allow them to marry children below the age of 18. In everywhere else in the Philippines, marriage below the age of 18 is illegal. Hence why this new law was passed to remove the "religious exemptions" used by some Muslim Filipinos to continue practicing child marriage. To give you more context, the Philippines is 95% Christian/Secular, 5% Muslim.
@@AngryKittens Sorry But Philippines a third world compared to Indonesia in terms of development shut up Philippines is still behind in terms of development comapred to its neighbouring countries that why China is knocking you off wahaha
Protecting young females from often, misogynistic men who think they are there to use how they want and when they want can only be a good thing, the men who oppose this are trying to say they support religious communities, they should be looking at protecting children, hopefully this is the first of many laws protecting women
That guy who said one area had the lowest gRape cases was funny. I guess he believes that if two people are married, then there can't be gRape. That's the logic he used. That person who said that a kid should be mentally and emotionally stable before being married off to someone. Have you ever seen a kid who's already mentally and emotionally stable, mature? It seems like what the person really meant was "the kid should just say yes to everything we say". Imagine being born into a situation where you're forced or pushed into marrying someone you don't even like (and you're still a kid). Imagine that you're being made to marry someone because of those clan killings and you are the solution to stop your family from getting erased from earth. You're literally a sacrifice. You lose your freedom to love whoever you want when you grow up. You lose your individuality because your entire family (and the rival killing family) depends on you to get married to stop all the killings. You're gonna be guilt-tripped into marrying because if you don't, then it probably means you don't care for your family, you don't love them, and you're a bad person. Sure it is important to respect people's cultures. But what if something in a certain culture is very harmful? Maybe what seems harmful to us isn't harmful to them because that's their culture, that's their way of living, so everyone, including the "victims", view it from a different perspective than us. We may have the right to voice our opinions, but what right do we have to impose our own moral or cultural standards, our way of life, our point of view, on others? What if one day, someone in power bases his laws on his own morality, culture and then makes it a crime for everyone who doesn't follow his morality or cultural standards? We cannot always view this from only one perspective, we also need to put ourselves in a situation and think how we'd react if it was a part of our way of life that gets affected by laws made by someone who doesn't have the same cultural background or way of life? I think this is a topic that cannot easily be given answers because it's a clash of cultures, morality, points of view.
Someone that is both emotionally and mentally ready that is not forced is a much better definition of ready to be married. What's the alternative? Some random ages given by the countries? Do all people the same age have the same mental capacity? Do children today that browse TikTok all day have the same mental capacity as children that used to fight in wars? Absolutely not, so having a static age is not effective rather the first definition is much more practical.
In theory we shouldn't have any right to enforce our morality or standards on others. But some people disagree and enforce them, as they feel what they're doing is good, correct, righteous, but to the people having new ideas pushed on them, it's oppressing their culture. What you say is correct, we should put ourselves in the “disgusting“ side's perspective and consider how we may feel. Personally I support the ban on child marriage because statistically their lives will turn out better and it'll be more productive for both families. But productivity isn't always the main focus in cultures and traditions.
Clearly there's an issue with unwanted babies being left. I think this new law will help prevent or drastically reduce this problem. I understand that for religious reasons, people are against this ban. But logically speaking, it makes no sense to have child marriages. Biologically & mentally, people are not fully developed until at least 18 years of age. It's also important to give females the opportunity to be educated so they can make their own decisions about how they want to go about their lives, get a degree and then a career, etc. Religion often tends to be the cause for a lot of debates, arguments, wars, etc. I have nothing against religion. It's just people need to realize these things and not use religion as a reason for doing things like this. I think this is good for the Philippines. It's time to move away from old traditions and think about the future of the country. There's no actual real-world, modern benefit to allowing such a thing. It's just a cultural/religious thing that people have been used to doing. But it's about time that these kinds of practices stop.
There's an issue with babies being abandoned with or without Child marriages. I think this country really needs to up their sex education and or put up more centers where people can drop their unwanted babies safely or finally approve an abortion law so people can have a choice.
@@octavia7408 Either way, at least implementing this child marriage ban will help with the situation. Better sex education will also help too of course. The thing is, changes take time. Passing laws take time. Enforcing the new laws take time. The important thing is to do things little by little; even if it's just 1 person someone is able to change their minds about this topic.
@@octavia7408 the philippines is a very religious country.. that's abortion or even thinking of abortion would give you the side eye oh not exactly the side eye more like you committed murder. The catholic church for one cried bloody murder when the conversation about condom came up. As someone who lives my sex education is actually good(well i don't know how it works on other school)in grade six i learned the parts and its function then in hs.. its contraceptives to an effin baby coming out of the vagina that traumatized me
Exploiting children in the name of religion or tradition should never be acceptable. We bring children on this planet and we should take care of them, not let them down like that. I hope child marriages will be abolished everywhere.
Does “child marriage” in this sense mean marriage between two children or marriage between an adult and a child? One is wrong and the other is VERY wrong, but I’d like to understand a bit deeper.
@@AngryKittens Are there cases of an older woman marrying a young boy coz it's always the other way around and the fact the men seem so eager to preserve this practice.
@@sundalongpatpat That's what happens when a culture confuses patriarchy with religion. Religious laws are suddenly conveniently more favorable to men.
The only solution to "rape cases" in the Philippines is to teach men to handle a "NO". Patriarchy still as it finest! And teach girls to respect themself and to say "NO" when they dont want and dont feel guilty about it!! I dont want you, you cant force me! We live in 2022 but sometimes still feel like 800. Wth!!!
that's the problem when a country revolves around religion. a country cant progress kung masyadong focused sa religion dahil may mga tinuturo at kultura na nasasapawan ang batas pang tao. At the same time, ayaw galawin ng mga govt officials ang ganitong issue dahil malaking percent ng botante ay muslim.
@@sumayyahadetunmbi4347 sa muslim. May naka-argue ako nung minsan ta's sabi niya, "wag daw pakealaman ang paniniwala nila. Mas mabuting ikasal ng maaga kaysa magboyfriend ng marami at kumain ng baboy." Ginagaya nila yung prophet nilang si Muhammed
I am a Muslim and and common sense tells me this ban on child marriage is a must. I hope the would further increase the age to 20 or 24. Idk why rhe bald blue clothed man believes he is speaking for all Muslims. I dont live in Phillipines and neither am I a flippino.
There's just so much to unpack here. First of all, just thinking of child marriage makes me nauseous. If a young girl getting her period means she'll be handed over to some old guy, married off without even knowing what's puberty, I'm glad the ban was passed. Also, in my head, when the glasses guy said that rape statistics are low in that Muslim province due to early marriage, I kinda laughed in disbelief. Are there laws in the Philippines recognizing marital rape? Those little girls having some old guy forcing themselves on them... Also, acknowledging that it's not only an issue in the Philippines, as it does happen in the US, too for example, I'm appalled there's people supporting child marriages, no matter where in the world they live.
Yes. Marital rape is a crime in the Philippines. 18 is also the minimum legal age for marriage (with parental consent), and 21 (without). The video does not make it clear enough that the issue of child marriage only exists in the Autonomous Muslim Regions, which has a separate set of Civil Laws (based on the Shariah) from the rest of the Philippines. Hence why a new law had to be passed to enact a national ban, once and for all. Muslims account for only 5% of the population of the Philippines. The rest of the Philippines (95%) is Christian/Secular.
As a Muslim, I'm so mad that these people use our religion to justify child marriages 🤬 We in Malaysia still have age limits to marriages although the majority is Muslim. However, the age limit is 16 for women so I hope it can change to 18 soon.
You're muslim right, so can you give the definition of and adult ready to get married in Islam? Really interested how you will find it's 18 years old...
5:55 Is he hearing himself? Why does he care more about family legacies than a child's well-being? Children have time to grow and prepare for what's to come, they shouldn't be rushed nor forced into making decisions that could heavily impact them in a negative way. A handful of humans are truly outrageous.
I wished the interview had asked black mask orange hair at 5:00 to define what is the difference between child marriage and forced marriage. Is he implying child marriage is not forced if the families give consent?
The thing I understood is that child marriage had terms and conditions and "consent" while forced does not. But the thing is, how does a child consent?? Do they understand the gravity of the thing they are consenting to and besides most of the time the parents are the one's consenting for the child.
@@daphnebaje251 Even if you do think about parent consenting for the child, does surgeries and or dentists have the parent getting the final say and not the child? (Sorry for being off topic, but I am actually cringing about the comments who did nothing but trying to show the moral high ground and not truly debating as well not being surprised about the opposition to the law)
@@killertruth186 getting consent for dental or medical treatment is very different from getting consent to agreeing to a marriage. The former is just a yearly\monthly thing done to better yourself while the other is a long term commitment that children\minors fail to understand the gravity of.
Is that guy for real that thinks it's o.k cause it saves the family?? And that's the muslim faith, to kill an entire family over a dispute? So in order to save the family a child from each side are married....huh? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ That is absolutely absurd!
it's not our faith at all, only cultural. islam teaches that killing is completely wrong (the Qur'an says "if you kill one person, it is as if you have killed all of mankind"). killing people in a family feud or for any reason other than a 100% islamically-justified war (i don't think there are any wars that satisfy the conditions of it being acceptable in islam, because the reason should be only to fight back against persecution, not fighting for money, resources etc) is a huge sin, maybe one of the biggest sins of all. also non-consensual marriages are forbidden and not seen as a true marriage because it is essentially r*pe, so forcing your child to marry someone is a big sin. unfortunately there are many muslims who are uneducated in the religion and they think cultural practices and islam are the same thing. we need better education and islamic education in the Qur'an and Sunnah teachings.
7:58 Because very few women have the courage to file a case. Many were forced not to seek justice even by their own families because of the "image and name" that they are trying to save. Thus, they end up just getting compensation or marriage. Honestly speaking, younger generation of muslims here in the Philippines are open minded but the older ones are not 😐 They always rant about being deprived because of the religion but remain blinded in the abuse of women and children by their fellow muslim brothers.
Marriageable age in the Philippines has long been set at 18. In fact, up to the age of 21 you'll need parent's consent before you can get married. Up to age 25, you'll still need parent's advice. This is based on the Family Code of the Philippines. I think this law affects indigenous people who still practice child marriages. Muslims also follow their own laws about marriage.
What does religion got to do when it comes to child safety? For a while , I hope people keep religion aside and think about the girl child whose body is not developed to have a baby.
Even if the body is developed, the mind is not. Girls and young women need education, it does many great things for a society according to international statistics. Less poverty, less overpopulation etc.
Holy Moly, did not know this was a big issue because in my circle or from what I know, middle-class people living in the urban city usually marry above 25 and there are still that marry after 30.... but then I remember I know some of my Muslim classmates who got married at 17 and on their marriage day, it was the first time they met. I've heard stories of Muslim teenage girls tricked to go to a party that turned out to be their wedding, lol. But in Christian communities, you hardly hear of anyone getting married so early, mostly there are teen pregnancies but they don't marry which is why there are so many single Moms in the Philippines that got pregnant at ages 13-17.
Child marriage in the Philippines is illegal long before however there are cultural exemptions and the new law is banning it. If you are not part that culture then child marriage is illegal which is 80% of the Philippines.
Yeah it's weird. I'm Filipino and I never really heard of Child Marriages being a thing back at home until this. I know there is a human trafficking problem but not child marriage problem.
@@karltee7862 same me too, in my hometown in Negros Island if a young teenager 14-19 years old gets pregnant parents and relatives insults the person and often force to stand on their own. Teen pregnancy and child marriage is really not a thing in my region based on what I saw since I lived there from birth 'til 18 years old.
I don’t believe it’s 100% religion thing. Philippines Muslim and Indian Muslim are just stuck in old style thinking. There are Muslim in a more developed country and they don’t practice or believe in such things. Also, I’ve witnessed some Christian with old style thinking also who practise child marriages. I think it’s more to do with your mindset, way of thinking.
Child marriage in the Philippines is illegal long before however there are cultural exemptions and the new law is banning it. If you are not part that culture then child marriage is illegal which is 80% of the Philippines. even then if you are 18-25 of age and getting married, there are still many process to get including a parents consent. You are free to marry without a parent consent if you are 26yrs old and above.
@@ghem535 what’s your point? Directly replying to me instead of others? I was just talking about religion. I didn’t say anything about cultural or attacking Philippines
As a catholic living in a city that has half of the population are both Catholics and muslims, the Catholics don't practice child and arranged marriages at all, but the Muslims ones, I can't even fathom my other Muslim friends and classmates back in high school who are immediately married by the time they graduate high school, and due to this practice there are many infidelity or abuse and or an all out toxic relationships.
I totally agree. Some of my Muslims friends were married early. But I know many of my Christian friends who aren't married but got into sexual relationship to different men. What's morally correct?
@@powerstranger6057 lol, at least your Christian friends had a choice, and it's their choice to be with men and have a sexual relationship, compared to the muslims since they are either forced/pressured to marry at such a young age.
@@stephanielim5544 in the case of my Muslim friends, she wasn't forced at all. She came in a wealthy family so if she wants to get married then she gets it.. You know what? I live in Mindanao and MAJORITY of people who married here early is purely by choice. I know cuz I live here. In the case of having multiple sex partners and premarital sex. I don't know if you're against it. But it is forbidden in Christianity. So....... What's morally correct for you? Choice of having multiple sex partners without taking responsibility and eventually getting/passing STD or HIV is really mind blowing for me lol
And Infidelity or abuse in relationships in the Philippines is actually from Christian couples. many christian couple in the country are actually not married and are just live-in partners. Because they weren't married, they easily dumped their partner having children with them. You watch Rafy Tulfo and you'll know what I'm saying. Pathetic
No . Child marriage is not Islamic and not allowed. It's a very bad cultural practice in some areas and has nothing to do with Religion. It’s never the answer to ‘ save a life ‘ or ‘ save a reputation ‘ .. those are problems created by their own society , their mentality needs to change that is the real solution ..
Even if you say you didn't force a child to get married and they wanted to get married, why would you trust a child to make major life decisions when they don't even know how this world works without their parents?
I just want to make it clear that the perspective of Islam in relation to child marriage in this video comes through a cultural lens. While Islam does not have a minimum age for marriage, there are requirements, as one of the interviewees mentions. From my understanding and what I have been taught, forcing marriage upon a person is prohibited by the religion. Even if parents arrange a marriage, the consent of the children is needed to be valid in the eyes of God. There are also recommendations for both persons involved to create contracts with terms and conditions of marriage for their personal protection. Most people I talk to, even Muslims, do not know this because of the heavy influence of culture on the way we perceive and practice Islam. That's why there is little uniformity of practices and beliefs across the globe. Also, Muslims have to abide by the laws of the land. I am all in favor of the age raise to prevent this child abuse. People are using Islam as validation for child marriages, but it really is just an excuse.
@@Csgo-beast I'm personally in favor because setting a legal age limit is beneficial in protecting children from abusive parents who might marry them off for questionable reasons. My interpretation is that Islam would encourage the protection of children in these situations by this means. I am doubtful that most child marriages happen with good intentions. I'm not a scholar and my perspective carries bias, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
@@j131999 I understand what you're saying but this takes away from legitimate marriages too. For example sharia law would not change just because some people are doing illegal/bad stuff they aren't supposed to do. Those people should be punished. Same thing here, these abusive parents should be punished by law so this stops happening, not that they ban it all together. Realistically this won't even stop these marriages from happening, Islamic marriage doesn't even have anything to do with legal law marriage.
I remember I watched a documentary of a little girl being married off, sold to an older man around his 50s. They’re muslim too. The girl was crying but her parents sold her. Children should enjoy their youth.
It consistently sounds like the child is almost always a girl, one who cannot conceptualize what a marriage entails, and yet such a decision would be thrust upon he without her having a say in it. I'm shaking with a surprising amount of sadness and fury at the thought of such a unconscionable idea.
As a muslim, I think banning child marriage is definitely the best choice. Sure, Islam does allow it since back when Muhammad was alive or other prophets were alive, there weren't any law against it, heck even knights had once dated a child, but it's not a priority and that you should do it, it's more of a choice. Personally, im against it as I believe childrens should enjoy their childhood first rather than immediately become a parent as soon as they reached puberty. So I view this ban as a very, very good thing
1:15 guy is confusing me. Why the hell he thinks it's sad to wait till 18 to get married?!?!? I believe that there are definitely pedos who protect their twisted desires by saying that it's their tradition or religion. I wonder how would he felt if he was forced to get married to an older woman when he was a child himself. Would he still be against this law?...🙄
Now let's hear the arguments in favour of child marriage! * - I.... * - Ummm.... * - Something something freedom? Sorry I hit a wall, I'll try my best to come up with some good arguments in support of child marriage, please bear with me.
Pansin ko karamihan ng nag rereklamo sa batas na ‘to ay mga lalaki, bakit? Dahil wala namang mawawala sa kanila pero sa babaeng papakasalan nila napaka laking responsibilidad. Jusko 2022 na sa panahon ngayon kung maaring wag na mag anak at mag asawa wag na.
It would be pretty interesting to see if the people who in the past had arranged child marriages are having a good life and if they agree with the change or not. Knowing the perspectives of the general public for this is only so useful as most of us who have never experienced something like this won't be able to agree with or understand it.
It would be tricky though. The fact that they were married as children would indicate that their husband, his family, and their own family would be pretty restrictive about her ever saying anything about it. They didn't let her talk before, why would they do so now?
Records of rape cases are a different story from the actual occurrence of rape. Hindi dahil maliit ang bilang ay ibig-sabihin ay minsan lang ito nangyayari lalo na't mayroong culture of shaming of rape victims. Paano pa sila magka-come out?
Wtf is that mentality... Alam ba niya na di lang Muslim ang gumagamit ng ganyang dahilan para maagang ikakasal.... Alam ba niya ang gasgas na ang term na "papanindigan ko po ang anak mo" tapos ang ending ay inaabuso lang ng kanilang asawa🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Grabe kumulo talaga dugo ko doon sa lalaki nayon. Pare koy mababa ang kaso ng rape sa BANGSAMORO dahil 1. Walang gusto magreport dahil "kahihiyan" 2. The victim is forced to marry their rapist.
In india as well, when government raised marriage age to 21, it were mainly muslim men who were against it. I know many muslim females who were in favor of that law.
@@sobhi1423 ah could be the location difference? Im talking about urban muslim females who were mainly in support, some even appeared in local tv news appreciating the law.
@@aaadit4131 we are against child marriage and aieesha was not six ! This is how you never were a good informed muslim otherwise you knew that. The prophet died on the lap of Aieesha because aieesha loved him so much. They never hd children because, while with all his wives he did. I can go on and on but ignorant people just want to be right not informed ! I am a proud muslim and i am proud to say WE ARE AGAINST CHILD ABUSE . Some Catholics are predators on children and thats bad that doesnt mean the religion is bad. People have GOOD AND BAD. And thats why there is a judgement day so the bad people get punished for their bad deeds on earth
@@realtalk675 If you believe there is judgement at the end. You must receieve that muhammad will get punished too. How can prophet do immoral things? Muhammad marrry aisyah 6 years old. This is the true fact. You can't deny it
In the United States, child marriage is STILL legal in most states if the parents sign the marriage certificate. This issue effects all cultures and religions.
As a muslim I think child marriage is wrong. Because it's hard to take responsibility of a family at that age. Prevents education, etc. But only banning child marriage doesn't solve the problem. It doesn't protect children. As some said they have right to live their chilhood. Actually many still couldn't. There must be serious precautions because now there are many woman children, many pregnant children in everywhere.
@@AngryKittens same in most of the countries. They are minority but they have their own personalised law . 😂😂😂but if they are Majority then others are not recognisable. 😂😂😂😂I don't know why they are so hypocrate 😂
Through 'parental consent'. The minor doesn't consent it. It's the parents who do. Arranged marriages happened throughout history, let's not act surprised. It's sick but that's how it is. Poor children
@@louisea8266 And most people had completely forgotten that it would be hard to enforce the new law, but if I am living in the Phillipines. I will be for the child marriage ban, as soon as I had heard about babies being dead in rivers.
9:30 i understand na part na sya ng culture pero in my personal view ang tradisyon at kultura dapat sumasabay sa pagbabago ng panahon may mga nakasanayan noon na hindi na angkop sa makabagong panahon
Considering how difficult the law is around marriage in the Philippines, especially with divorce not being legal..., it's a no brainer to exclude children from the possibility of marriage until at least 18. I'd even bump it up to 21 since the laws surrounding marriage are so restrictive.
**facepalm** The minimum legal age of marriage in the Philippines _is and always has been_ 18 (with parental consent). To get married without parental consent, you need to be 21. The video misleadingly implies that marriage under 18 is the norm in the Philippines. It's not. The new ban is specifically to stop the prevalence of child marriage in the Muslim Autonomous regions, which were previously exempted from the national legal marrying age of 18-21 because unlike the rest of the Philippines, they have their own separate Civil Laws based on the Shariah.
@@nicholaswhorley8343 Everybody does. Only the influence of the Catholic church on politicians prevent divorce from being legal. But almost everyone I know in the Philippines supports it being legalized. I have friends and family separated from their former spouses and who can't move on because they're prevented from legalizing the separation by the law.
"because unlike the rest of the Philippines, they have their own separate Civil Laws based on the Shariah" exactly why I doubt about Islam in the Philippines, speaking as a Filipino IMO most Muslims in this archipelago are old fashioned and narrow minded, some stuck in pre colonial ideology. It has been 500 years since the Spanish introduced Christianity in the Philippines, just ponder on that for a moment. (I am not trying to be biased and offensive) The complexity of the culture in this archipelago is the answer for that statement. Some will always have their own thing. Well I guess at the end of the day, this country's culture will always be diverse and complex, not binary. I'll still love my country for that.
Salaam and Hello, I would like to just say that I don't normally give my opinion on such subjects but this was interesting and I believe conversation is the best way to understand issues around the world. Also this is my opinion and I do not give it with the intention to hurt anyone's beliefs or feelings. If by chance anyone is offended or hurt, I apologise in advance. First of all while I am muslim I am not Filipino, so I do not understand the political and historical development of the country which will affect my understanding of certain issues but I will try to be as factual as possible. 1. Sexual maturity - From a medical standpoint girls can start their periods from as early as 10 to as late as 14/15 years of age as a result they can reach sexual maturity at different ages. However just because a girl starts her period doesn't automatically mean she is ready for marriage. It take around 2 years from the beginning of her period for her to develop internally and externally and even then some girls don't finish maturing until they reach 18. If she does become sexually active before then and manages to get pregnant then this can cause a lot of problems for their health later on which may cause the husband to leave her! 2. Rido (family feud) - The word Islam means peace I would question how much of this family feud issue is steeped in culture rather than religion. As far as I know murder is a sin in every country and religion. The beginning of Muslim prayers start with calling Allah(God) most beneficent and merciful, which shows that forgiveness is valued in muslims. Again I don't have much knowledge regarding this topic so I am not going to comment on it further but I would question how these children feel being married into families that have potentially killed people they know and love. 3. Rape - There has been evidence that a high percentage of rape cases are not filed in European countries due to the stigma attached to it and the lack of support and empathy for the survivors even from the police. If this is case the case in Europe then I would question how many cases are being reported in Asian countries where it is seen as besmirching the family "honour" even though it was not the girls fault at all. I would question the link between child marriage and low rape cases since there are so many other factors that can contribute to low numbers. 4. Education - While I think education is key to social and economical development, I wonder how accessible education is to Filipinos. Does everyone have access to it? Is it free? Do parents allow their children to go to school and do they know the importance of education for their children's future. Again lack of knowledge in this topic stops me from developing my understanding of the issues surrounding this subject. There are many other threads that feed into this subject, such as how likely they are going to find a job that supports them? Will parents allow their children, especially girls to work? Do schools offer sex education? I also do not know how much involvement the public has with law making. I can go on and on! However from my understanding of the video the reason for this law is due to the high number of babies found abandoned or killed. So making a law with the intention of saving lives is in my opinion a good thing. Once again this is my opinion which I have made based on the information I have found but I am always willing to listen and learn. I don't mind constructive criticism but please keep your comments kind and I hope everyone has a peaceful day.
I’ve heard no good reason from the opposing side on the law. Customs and traditions honestly don’t mean anything and shouldn’t mean anything when it’s to look out for the well-being of a community such as not allowing child marriages or cannibalism for example. And their being a low number of rape doesn’t mean it was directly caused by allowing child marriages, that’s just a very sketchy correlation. Ignoring the probable several cases of when it’s not reported since it’s usually a young girl getting married off to a wealthier family too
I'm not a Filipino Muslim, but a Christian, but even if it's their custom, it's still wrong in so many levels. I'm sure there are other Muslims who do not agree with child marriage.
@Lianhua Xin I don’t know who or what you’re talking about. If you wanna talk religion motivated terrorism. There is enough of that to go around in christianity as well, especially in the US. And no, being a racist and wanting to punch muslims just because they’re muslims is not “better” than bombing innocent people. It’s both bad and unacceptable, period.
@nonebeach That were other times when religion was created . Back then you basicly didnt get older then 60 and that was all ready quit old . If you dont get old then you have to get married earlyer . Of course in modern times its not like that anymore but back then it was just different then to day . Religion shoud chang but becouse its just pure beliveing its quit hard to chang that .
@@Lock2002ful "just because they are Muslims"? See, you are exaggerating the sentences and make it controversial as he mentioned something about your religion. He said he would smack a muslim guy if he asked a kid to marry him. Go it?
@@gaiigangzz7561 Do I? Because in the video they are explicitly saying that it’s not only muslims. Yet, instead of saying that he would smack anyone who’d marry an underage girl he focuses on muslims. I didn’t put the controversy there, he did. Got it? Oh, and underage doesn’t equal kid or child. Guess that’s hard to grasp for Muricans but in other countries 18 isn’t the age of adulthood or consent. In almost all of Europe it’s 14~16. It’s laughable that someone wants to punch someone because their significant other is 16 and not 18. Not to mention the fact that Mr. Whyte kNiGht here only seems to care about girls. Guess underage boys aren’t a concern for him. So, do you “get” what his comment already said about his way of thinking and mindset? Not my problem if you can’t add one and one together.
I don't care what your beliefs and traditions y'all sacrifice a safety of a child, kabataan Ang pag asa ng bayan puro pinagkakait nyo yun nakakalungkot
Why one religion always wanna escape from the laws for the whole country Whether it's phillipines , UK or India Why they don't wanna follow uniform law which is adhered by whole country Equality is what which treats everyone equally Then is there anyone special or exception who could set their own bars and discard constitution.
I am so happy 😄😄🥰 when I heard this, children need to be at right age and more years of experiences to be mature and can make his or her own decision. Wether its against your religion beliefs or not, a child is still a child.
Should've been done a long time ago. Children should be playing, having crushes to kids the same age as them. Not being wed to some wrinkly ass old creeps.