What Do The Chinese Think Of The Social Credit System? | Street Interview 

Me too.hahaha.

same 😂

You must be a wise man.Keep going.hahaha

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First the System benefits those that are already doing well financially in this system that further shows they are trustworthy in terms of credit worthiness. This is not faair for most of the population who is trying to scale up the financial ladder. The pioneers have loopholes which was not previously exposed which helps them to be wealthy now. This Credit system is to stop others from being successful financially. Secondly, we are not talking about what the current Credit system is doing. We are focusing on what is the FULL POTENTIAL OF CREDIT SYSTEM AND WHAT IT MAY DO IN FUTURE. WHICH IS IT CAN AND HAVE THE POWER TO DISCRIMINATE WHOEVER WHO DONT FOLLOW EVEN A HEALTH CODE EXAMPLE MANDATORY VACCINATION WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF US WANTS TO AVOID. ITS THE FUTURE USE CASE THAT NEEDS TO CALIBRATE AND ADJUST TO PREVENT AND PROTECT ALL PEOPLE's WELL BEING. UNDERSTAND?6

@@cryptoinsider9305 Do you use Uber? After a ride do you rate the driver? So you're saying the rating system is a social discrimination? How bout you tell me the FULL POTENTIAL of the nuclear submarine AUKUS is planning to build?

@@ezibalenz just ignore him. He just copy and paste it everywhere

@@ezibalenz Social Credit system is it calibrated for the people? Uber does it says you cannot use Uber without Vaccination? Nuclear submarine dont have restriction and rules? Your IQ 0? Go back to learning ABC..

@@cryptoinsider9305 At least in my country you must get vaccinated before you can take a ride, as well as going into public places like restaurant, mall, cafes, etc. Well everyone is fine with it, 90% of the adults are vaccinated so far so that we can carry on with our daily activities. We've got no problem wearing masks, because we believe in taking care of each other, not just "personal freedom". Somehow I sincerely pity you, what kind of education have got you into this?

As a Chinese American, I have an honest hatred towards americans/American Media and their fake outrage over china. They use this to continuously humiliate and paint Chinese people, including Chinese Americans in a disgusting light.

@@tfk884 Fax they lie about the middle east, china, russia and so many more countries to brainwash the west

@@tfk884 I'm used to it now, after living in America and Japan, I have now learnt to use the simple answer, 'one who gets to talk is one who has a bigger fist'.

It's not like translation is innacurate... Translation is spot on. It's the name that communists decided to give to the system sounds this way because they want to pretend as if they are some sort of alternative to capitalism and "social score" supposedly sounds better and with less capitalist reference than 'credit score'. Considering that it's literally same thing as credit score they should had simply adopted the name that is used globally and this way would had avoided unecessary misunderstanding. But misunderstanding is what communist want to create - without misunderstanding - there would be less grounds to spread rumors how "socialist" China is better alternative to "capitalist" west - even though China is in no way less capitalist than the west.

@@sk-sm9sh What is social Score UK? Social score UK is a Uk company which provides a social credit scoring system that tracks your score and display it. ... This score can be shared with lenders and third party institutions which want to use your social score to analyse your creditworthiness.12 May 2021

it's honestly sad how anytime a someone says something positive or even just neutral about china on the internet, or tries to disprove western msm lies, they get barraged by weird (often racist) trolls. like they swallow the most outrageous western propaganda hook line and sinker but then accuse chinese people of being brainwashed... i hope soon more westerners become aware of the lies they've been fed and can start seeing the chinese as comrades not enemies

No problem - just return to China - your motherland - heaven on earth. We are too corrupt for you here in the West... -))))

Thanks for your advice, I am living and working in China btw.

@@dancroitoru364 The problem is that you're also never going to stop attacking China with negative press until the day your countries crumble because we sure as heck know China isn't going to.

@@yuegengma1562 Good - stay there. Great times ahead -))

其实就是征信😂

@@yichenglu9868 他们应该说的是那种社会行为分数，比如吐痰，放狗不牵绳子。其实他们这种西方媒体真正想说的是那种你没有按照中国政府来做某些政府让你做的行为，那我就扣你的分数然后限制你的一些行为。本质上他们还是把那套什么人权自由套上social credit system这个外壳，然后说中国政府侵害人权没自由。老套路了。

If you're able to readily access the world outside China, you're probably in a place where the "social" components of the algorithm aren't yet being tested.

@@doujinflip or the person is using a VPN

@@doujinflip Or you know, VPN. Like a normal person would

Western people like: Information are being hid from chinese citizen, we know better ! (Even though we have never went China before) lol

I'm gonna say it...+15 social credits

@@imperialguardsman5929 Congrats on proving his point with your stale ass meme.

@@haruzanfuucha lmao what it’s the funniest meme I’ve ever seen I can’t help but laugh 😹

@@haruzanfuucha also alwyy are you defending them. They’re all brainwashed by communism. Everything is in the red and gold communist colors in china and even hong kong and taiwan. Just shows how much power china has

@Ryan Alex the credit rating apps don’t involve the government. Most people never heard of them or use them. They existed only in Apps such as free bike apps and Taobao (China’s Amazon) that allow you making delayed payments. Since I pay in full and don’t use the delayed “buy now pay later” function in the apps, I’ve never setup accounts that might (might not) have credit ratings. I can honestly say that most Chinese don’t have any credit ratings since none of my entire extended family members have it, most haven’t even heard of it. I think the credit rating is to prevent people from future borrowings when they don’t pay back if they choose to use it. Everything about China is twisted into something bad lol

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

+1000 uncle sam points

The US credit score does not restrict your rights to travel. Also the CCP curated the credit system so they can have full control of everybody. This is human rights crimes to the mass entent. The credit system now has the CCP give anybody "coronavirus" on the profile, restricting their actions and travel capcity. Theres multiple accounts of them doing this.

People literaly said that people that are not consistent with paying taxes etc could be restricted from traveling etc. Also they did say in the video that in some cities the credit system that gives points to people that donate blood etc and do other kind of "good" activities and reduces points for bad actions is indeed already implemented. The fact that this doesnt happen in all of China doesnt mean its less frightening. China is huge. Millions of people there are indeed affected by that. The fact that some millions there are nothing in comparison to the total population (the majority of which is not well informed about that) doesnt mean that its not extremely alarming. One lady also said that she was happy to hear that such "hard core" system was implemented in a few cities because she was angry with people that dont abide by the laws. That's definitely dystopic.

No it's not. It's not just financial. It's your social, political obedience that determines your civil liberties.

First the System benefits those that are already doing well financially in this system that further shows they are trustworthy in terms of credit worthiness. This is not faair for most of the population who is trying to scale up the financial ladder. The pioneers have loopholes which was not previously exposed which helps them to be wealthy now. This Credit system is to stop others from being successful financially. Secondly, we are not talking about what the current Credit system is doing. We are focusing on what is the FULL POTENTIAL OF CREDIT SYSTEM AND WHAT IT MAY DO IN FUTURE. WHICH IS IT CAN AND HAVE THE POWER TO DISCRIMINATE WHOEVER WHO DONT FOLLOW EVEN A HEALTH CODE EXAMPLE MANDATORY VACCINATION WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF US WANTS TO AVOID. ITS THE FUTURE USE CASE THAT NEEDS TO CALIBRATE AND ADJUST TO PREVENT AND PROTECT ALL PEOPLE's WELL BEING. UNDERSTAND?4

@@cryptoinsider9305 Yes I do, but I have no idea why your comment was a reply to my comment. A non sequitur.

@@Dayvit78 Its ok, the motivation is correct and more people should be aware.

@@cryptoinsider9305 What are you on? If you rent a bike and you don't return it, your credit score decreases. How is this unfair? This system isn't any more biased to any particular group than the credit system in North America. If you don't pay your debts, your score takes a hit - why on earth should you be allowed to 'scale up the financial ladder' for not being responsible? On your comment about 'loopholes', wealthy people don't get as much of a free pass in China like they do anywhere else. In China, you evade taxes? you get fined. Meanwhile Bezos is earning billions and paying much less in taxes than average american. As for the full potential of the credit system - stop projecting. The people being interviewed have made it clear they trust their government - China graduates more STEM in one year than you can imagine and the population believes in vaccines. Just because YOU don't trust your government to do what's best for you doesn't mean that other people think the same. Yeah, if people are doing stupid things to endanger the public, put their ass in prison. BTW, focusing on the 'POTENTIAL' is a joke - let's talk when it actually happens and not BEFORE then.

@@wakka111 It's more than that. Xu Xiaodong got Social Credit Score lower to D after he exposed Fake Chinese Kungfu. Therefore the whole system can be exploit by the rich and officials work for theirs favor. Not to mention you can get lower yours score by your shopping habit that has nothing to do with debt, but more like what you like that is not supported by the government.

they only talked about the Zhima score not about the social credit score which they themself don’t know about..

@@NineDiamont Right because it’s not widely implemented and honestly is much more watered down than most Americans and other westerners think. Most of my family is in China and have never heard of it until some concerned white people pretended they cared about the fate of Chinese people lmfao.

@@scholarssolutions6735 Why "pretend" to care? China's a massive country that has a strange relationship with it's cultural roots - since traditional values/practices/religious observances are looked down upon by their government. Moreover, (like most governments) the Chinese government is immature, so if the people eventually put pressure on the government, their government will posture and put pressure on the world. Their anti-western propaganda is already way past the line of anything we publish about them here, some even encouraging war...so there's no "pretending" to care. China is the most imminent global threat as it stands to not only the western world, but to themselves until they actually figure out what they're doing.

@@piterpraker3399 China is the most imminent threat to the western global economy that is spearheaded by colonization and imperialistic exploitations. Fixed that for you. To be honest, western propaganda is so stupid and silly they trip over their own feet. Sometimes fearmongering about how powerful China is, but then joking about how weak China is. Making up propaganda about Chinese people suffering under CCP but actively advocating for starting war with China. Not to mention sanctioning China for human rights abuses for Muslim genocide, while performing it themselves in the middle east for decades. Good job western projection at its best, cope harder.

@@piterpraker3399 anglo copium is the way ig

These are not important. Most Westerners just want to hear China's "negative news"! Decades of ideological brainwashing have made Westerners fear "communism", while Westerners only need China's "negative news" to comfort themselves. "Thank the Lord for letting me live in the West and see how poor the Chinese are!" 😂😂

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The 860 cap is very comparable to our credit score system

@@user-gongaesa koreans lmao, we created you.

Just our location

@@barackobama5530 not really, they often track messages that contain their "key-words"

But do you feel bothered by that tho? Just curious, because I believe it's for national security by "keywords". like maybe identifying if someone is planning to deal damage to the nation 🤔. I'm not American and I don't live in U.S., it's just that I personally don't mind if my goverment do that to me...

That's the reason why I buy drugs with cash to avoid someone knowing exactly which illnesses I have.

You're telling me China and the US aren't so different after all?

There is almost no Chinese who does not have some sort of electronic pay at least, and most do this by a mobile phone, except may some rural villagers in deep down China, or a granny or two. Secondly, in many cities they have 60 cameras on a stretch of 100 m road, many of them equipped with face recognition. Third, this is only the beginning. In a few years time the different social interaction points and monitoring systems will all be interconnected.

@@krollpeter Do you have any evidence for that? Your second point can be applied to many places in the world. This fearmongering is ridiculous.

@@krollpeter Reminder: America as more cameras installed per people than China. We also have something called Apple Pay, Venmo and Paypal as well. And in America we have been tracking people's social credit scores for far longer than China.

@@krollpeter Meow and M have some good replies, the only thing i wanted to add is: in 2013 a former NSA consultant leaked the extent of mass surveillance perpetrated by the US and UK in what is called the Snowden Revelations (the name of the consultant is Edward Snowden). This exposed the massive worldwide surveillance programs that are still ongoing to this day and include face and voice recognition. As a leader in the tech, do you really think current surveillance operations by the US is being outdone by China?

@@krollpeter The hilarious thing is, the so called VPN software in the West are all under monitor by the Five Eyes alliance. They know EXACTLY who you are, every keystroke you make and what porn you watch. Privacy and freedom my arse! 🤣

this video is being suppressed by youtube, its viewership hasn't changed in almost a year

Does this pay well? How do you get into this?

So why are you using a banned platform? Are you a criminal?

not yet

@@fij715 Obviously you just want to believe what you want to believe. Once you hate someone, you will consider everything he does is wrong, regarless the truth.

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! the great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

They are simply scared to say what they really think. It's fear.

@@Soundcloud765 then I can say you don’t understand majority of Chinese living in China

@Radioactive FistFoot I know many people from mainland China. I have very close relatives who live there. And this may surprise you, but many truly do not view the social credit as being as sinister as we do in the west. It truly is a different cultural mindset. This doesn't mean that all view it as totally benevolent. But they also see benefits to it. Would I like it? No. But I do believe that many people in China do not view it in such a strongly negative way as we do.

@Radioactive FistFoot It's clear you haven't followed Asian Boss at all. People who have followed Asian boss for a long time, would not have that kind of nonsense comment as yours. This is literally random street interviews that you can do on your own .

@@davidk6269 well fhere isnt a choice but to do the social credit test of yours and maybe have a better life i assume.

@Radioactive FistFoot 😂😂

@Radioactive FistFoot Gosh, step out of ur bubble man. U seem very delusional

Instead you get kidnapped if you criticise the government

@@user-cr3pn7rk2v people get caught up in "tax" charges, "sex" charges, mysterious car crashes, "conspiracy" charges if you cause too much problems in the west

@@tofuyam7361 - None of which are kidnapping.

@@__-pl3jg Being Epsteined isn't much better.

@@stateoffun - Epstein wasnt murdered for criticizing the government's policies. You guys are getting waaaaaay off topic.

Just keep your head down and everything is fine. Speak out and things suddenly get real bad.

@@davidhawley1132 It's cool to see you insist on being naive and biased against China. The more people like you there are, the dumber the West becomes.

@@chenyikuan_official Fortunately, there are journalists reporting on China that are outside the grasp of the CCP. But all you shills for the CCP have are schoolyard insults. Pathetic.

@@davidhawley1132 Ah true true true, you are absolutely correct.

@@davidhawley1132 I hope you can save us from our government which you don't like instead of been a keyboard warrior

Which vpn do you use. Just asking

Hi Colin! I think you need to address some biases in the comments from foreigners that got their info from western MSM and has never been to your country.

Yeah sure that's why critical students/people get arrested so that other Chinese people wont be critical on those kind of Interviews, they say they are living in freedom but in reality teren is no Such construct as freedom even in the western World, and China really hides that from it s cititziens only difference is that we in the West know that FBI and all other agencies like the BND in Germany are monitoring us.

@@afkass4965 Why does it matter, what brand of the company of VPN he chooses? I am not trying to argue, but does it somehow make his comment invalid?

@@Justin87878 everything in life matters 👍

First the System benefits those that are already doing well financially in this system that further shows they are trustworthy in terms of credit worthiness. This is not faair for most of the population who is trying to scale up the financial ladder. The pioneers have loopholes which was not previously exposed which helps them to be wealthy now. This Credit system is to stop others from being successful financially. Secondly, we are not talking about what the current Credit system is doing. We are focusing on what is the FULL POTENTIAL OF CREDIT SYSTEM AND WHAT IT MAY DO IN FUTURE. WHICH IS IT CAN AND HAVE THE POWER TO DISCRIMINATE WHOEVER WHO DONT FOLLOW EVEN A HEALTH CODE EXAMPLE MANDATORY VACCINATION WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF US WANTS TO AVOID. ITS THE FUTURE USE CASE THAT NEEDS TO CALIBRATE AND ADJUST TO PREVENT AND PROTECT ALL PEOPLE's WELL BEING. UNDERSTAND?3

@@cryptoinsider9305 you probably dosent even know that most of the country has this kind of system. Even the US

@@Rex-ww4cw I think you are the ignorant one. The purpose of this video is to discuss about the potential implication of a full board social credit system, to make sure it is to benefit everyone and not just a handful of corrupt individuals. And to discuss what adjustment is needed. You from north Korea?

@@cryptoinsider9305 that was never the purpose of the video lol. Do you even watch the video ?

@@cryptoinsider9305 and the fact that you're asking me that I'm from North Korea showed that you are ignorant as well

True but the people's opinions there don't impact nor reflect the communist party's narrative. But it's good to hear what people think a out it nonetheless.

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! the great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! the great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

And they think they're so funny 🙄

Whether you like it or not it is real. Highly suggest you watch the on the ground reporting from Vice to see how non-financial credit system is being implemented and how unfairly it impacts ordinary Chinese citizens and if you still are a fan of that system then fair enough

@@Sasa-pq2zi oh wow I am so unfairly impacted by the social credit system!!

Sometimes I just cant tell wether they're just genuinely dont know what are they doing or mocking the chinese

@@Felix11010 I think most of them are high school kids or only have an equivalent education degree

Agree totally. That last statement was SO true. Let‘s all get on his level before we get into another pointless war

It’s more difficult for westerners to get out of the bubble due to the learning curve of Chinese language.

First the System benefits those that are already doing well financially in this system that further shows they are trustworthy in terms of credit worthiness. This is not faair for most of the population who is trying to scale up the financial ladder. The pioneers have loopholes which was not previously exposed which helps them to be wealthy now. This Credit system is to stop others from being successful financially. Secondly, we are not talking about what the current Credit system is doing. We are focusing on what is the FULL POTENTIAL OF CREDIT SYSTEM AND WHAT IT MAY DO IN FUTURE. WHICH IS IT CAN AND HAVE THE POWER TO DISCRIMINATE WHOEVER WHO DONT FOLLOW EVEN A HEALTH CODE EXAMPLE MANDATORY VACCINATION WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF US WANTS TO AVOID. ITS THE FUTURE USE CASE THAT NEEDS TO CALIBRATE AND ADJUST TO PREVENT AND PROTECT ALL PEOPLE's WELL BEING. UNDERSTAND?8

@@cryptoinsider9305 have you taken your anti spam and anger pills? Cause you need one.

@@shintapp You Taken smart pill? I guess not 🤣

it's to keep citizens from misbehaving while giving them incentive/rewarding them for good behavior. the cultural revolution ruined it for china

Exactly. This is nothing new. Here in New Zealand, if you don't pay back a loan for something then it effects your ability to get loans in the future. I think this would be pretty normal in many countries.

they're not telling the full truth in order to avoid punishments from the government

@@Lynn-iw2ds Yeah, you are absolutely right. LMAO

@@Lynn-iw2ds why are you so confident???who give you that confident?your mom or sum😂? like having few dollars in bank and dropping out of school,not passing your exam but worrying about the government will come and punish you😂😂???like I think you just don't have a idea on how much you really value man,ermm do you need a mirror I can give it to you for free😉

Most Americans are brainwashed into thinking everything China and Russia is bad.

​@@spaghettimeatballswow I can agree that people believe a lot of weird things about China, but on what planet do you live where Russia is considered not bad? Their economy is trash, Putin is stealing money from the people, the people have been oppressed since forever, sad.

@@spaghettimeatballswow As an Asian having to deal with the CCP's terrifying intrusiveness I think Americans are not wrong on that regard. And I'm sure most Asian countries that have a coastline would agree. Not to mention the authoritarian culture we'd have to adapt to if war breaks out and get invaded again like with Imperial Japan. Bing Chilling memes are too funny to be banned

@@spaghettimeatballswow ikr. the irony when many Western media call out China for brainwashing it's people, but they're the one that did it the most

@@JColdery You argue in absolutes, as if things are black and white.

sane people should be evaluating the possibility of western government plotting to apply something like this in the west tbh. They have thought it through, tested the waters and now they knew people are terrified about it, i think they will implement this in secret.

i actually think this doesn't make sense, they blacklist him, just make him unable to fly. its not enough, he can drive himself lol.

The authoritarian regime happened to punish that one person who actually deserved it. That's great dude!

Sounds like a fake story i bet your “gym owner” was an actor like those car dealerships in north korea 🇰🇵

@@alexanderl.6207 you sound like a fake person. I will not reply the CIA bot again

@@loongsiu4766 You are misinterpreting that. In this scenario, the guy can still fly, just not fly first-class. It is basically saying "Hey, you owe people money and now you want to buy first-class tickets? No way. Pay back your debts first."

just like tianem didn’t exist ok

That's not true at all lol. It literally affects your entire life.

@@SpiritShinobi do you have any sources of academic articles that I can look into then to prove what you're saying?

@@SpiritShinobi Never been to China I assume?

@@SpiritShinobi hmmm, bad credits is hard to clear... most people stayed as bad credit their entire life. They borrow names to buy car, start business... Its not uncommon.

it’s basically a racist way to dehumanize chinese people

Same here in Germany. The chinese system is basically inspired by our system in germany. But their system is way more modern and more accurate due to digitalization. I was flagged in our SchuFa for a contract i never had and it was ultra hard to get rid of this flag, i couldnt even get an normal contract for internet connection because of this crap. If u like it or not, most modern countrys use similiar systems, many dont even know that such stuff exist. Just dont take a loan or cantract when you arent sure u can pay it everytime.

China and the US are alike.

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@@semiramisubw4864 it is. I remembered from 10 years ago people in China are discussing the pro of have a credit system like Germany and other European countries and how their citizens are way more morally correct because these kind of system.

Difference is you don’t lose credits if you are black or non Han. In China if you suooort Taiwan. If your skin color is wrong or if you partition the government you lose credits and can be denied any service including buying food

Yes there is. They can limit your way of living if you don something that the CCP does not approve. "Liu Hu is a journalist in China, writing about censorship and government corruption. Because of his work, Liu has been arrested and fined - and blacklisted. Liu found he was named on a List of Dishonest Persons Subject to Enforcement by the Supreme People's Court as "not qualified" to buy a plane ticket, and banned from travelling some train lines, buying property, or taking out a loan." Also you can get your social credit score lowered for dumb stuff like playing video games.

@@thesazbak5342 do you know what is the consequence if you do not have the higher credit score in the states? Do you know the consequences if you distribute disinformation and misinformation to the public? More than 800k people died due to Covid. Is China becoming better if they really have this so called social credit system? Are you happy when China becomes better ? Or happier when China becomes worse?

@@thesazbak5342 It's CPC, most people on here don't even know the name of the party

@@thesazbak5342 Redlining. It's exactly the same as the US system. Get with the program - the US uses it for highly discriminatory policies to control peoples' lives too.

That's not what the video shows. It actually shows that the average Chinese person in this area doesn't know about the new system yet. That's a very different statement

@@fallen546 "new system" lol. One that only westerners know about.

@@fallen546 我们中国普通人都不知道的系统，你们知道？我们在中国的人都不知道，太平洋另一边的你知道？你来给我们说说什么样的系统？你是好莱坞电影看多了吧？真是可笑，你们西方人整天活在梦中。

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

@@fallen546 Even senator rand paul himself mentioned that america is the master of disinformation. most of the media is controlled by the west and obviously they created so much disinformation to discredit China. With the war in ukraine, the world can see the true colour of america and his allies (especially UK). Daily the msm is of full bs propaganda about Russia. You know so much about the system? show us the proof

It’s as worse as I heard of, even your kids school application can get denied when you‘ve a low score or the fact that you can’t use public transportation…ridiculous. Services like Facebook can create a whole profile with just a few data, imagine what the Chinese government could do with all this data, you guys are effectively transparent for them.. The recent crack down on the Ant Group and the whole tech branch is just so that the government keeps control about the data which is being collected about you.. In this day and age data and information are more worth than gold!

@@NineDiamont Give me one example of what you mentioned. "kids school application get denied" Name one example, name, city and time

@@NineDiamont you cant travel only when you are a dilligent who has to appear infront of court, are able to appear in court, and still dont do that. In America you go to Prison for that. Dont believe everything american media tells you. America and China are in conflict so ofc they lie....

@@NineDiamont Well you are exaggerating, it is indeed true that you can't take certain public transports like airplanes when YOU ARE MILLIONS IN DEBT. That's the point, its a financial credit system.

@@NineDiamont You’re brainwashed.

Well they mix up the terms a lot socialcredit, and credit system which creates misunderstanding, but what western media is refering to is what the guy at 8:37, says, the score can change your access to puclic transport and other public basic necessities which is the maindifference of the west and china

It's also Shanghai, where it would be discovered immediately. If they're testing new components it's going to be in some third-tier city you've never heard of.

Is it so hard to accept that humans basically function very similar even on the other side of the world under very different government systems? Humans gonna human. The thing is that while China is different, they have just been implementing ideas that work from the west and retro-fitting it to work for their people. Like capitalism definitely is a thing in China but they keep capitalism under control of the state so you don't have corporations bleeding the people dry. The west made everything up to 4G, China improved on it and made 5G first and lead the way to 6G. It's all the same, just done better because the US have obviously stopped trying to compete.

this video is being suppressed by youtube, its viewership hasn't changed in almost a year

Criticizing CCP -50 points, got a parking ticket/ went over the speed limit, -10 points. Do these sound like "financial creditworthiness"? However these are just some of the government's instruction to its officials on awarding points

@@steamerSama one of which exists, besides in the western media

@@steamerSama the thing is, this part was *created by the west*. So....does this not trigger any alarm to you? Does it not sound like what they(not ccp) will be applying onto you soon if not already applied to you. Its not applied on the chinese its applied onto you by USA.

I'm 20 yr old Chinese and I use twitter and youtube everyday...... But sometime when i comment on youtube or twitter, some people replied me like "are you 50 cents？" "is youtube illegal in China？" "I will call the police to arrest you". That's really lmao

Yes, they use VPNs to access the network outside China. When I was a foreign student in Beijing, I had to purchase a VPN to access Google, Facebook, and RU-vid. By the time I graduated, I needed to use the VPN to access Naver and Kakao Talk. Digital isolation is real in China and I understand that because the Chinese government considers data a national asset. The government doesn't want their people's data flowing through the network outside China. And It is very natural for the government to protect assets. Their first intention was to protect communist ideology from the Western world and now their intention is to protect their assets. The giant firewall or whatever people call will be denser and tighter.

Not to mention that every year, 120 million leave china overseas as a tourist. That's literally the same size as the whole Japanese population leaving china. Saying that chinese people are being cut off the world are so dumb

@@VotMaf Ironically, they're the ones who are being brainwashed in the end of the day

@@VotMaf that’s because you’re a bot account faaaaaaaaaaake

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@@maximilianmin1786 oof, salty?

@@maximilianmin1786 virgin

@@maximilianmin1786 ok Western brainwashed

It's not a Western thing, but a human thing. If you think this is unique to the West, you've living in your own bubble.

fr, reading these comments makes me question if we actually watched the same video XD

well technically, every single person on earth is. each individual has a certain capacity to be aware and conscious about a finite number of things

@@Vexsus22 Well, at least think and understand things from different perspectives. Personally, I would watch news from the US, Europe, Russia, Japan and China to have a better view of controversial topics. I know not everyone's able to understand different languages but at least respect others' opinions instead of calling them brainwashed or "too afraid to say the truth".

@@cathy921ontheradio I believe some do watched but still failed to comprehend especially western / American centric perspective like "who in the right mind would agree with such abomination? How dare they rob our freedom!".

You are stupid, you told that they are testing it that means they are gonna implement it.. government always want to control mass...its nothing new...you are just blindly accepting their government's propaganda, if they are so good, why there is no new president or other political parties with different ideology, they control the whole system....

@@painpeace3619 learn to read my guy :)

@@anna3603 so tell me why government is using their money to test such surveillance system, why anyone investment such a amount of money, if they don't get any kind of results out of it, do you really think that Chinese government is stupid! In future they will gonna use it, its nothing new, from the old day to modern day, every power hierarchy system want control the mass. Maybe you love so much the communism or china, that u can't accept the criticism of social credit system.

@@painpeace3619 Ah... You seem to know all the truth and fiction in the world. Good job!😅😅

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hahaha dude you have no idea...

The U.S. offer 300 millions per annum for anti-china propaganda ending 2016, you can be assured of more exciting stories, ....same old agenda like the "Powell's little tube of detergent." 😂😂😂

@@andrewlim7751Search "How Beijing Influences the Influencers" and it is more than 1 BILLION to use for propaganda from China. Quite frankly in term of Fake News, US's Big Media is on scale of 7/10 while China is 10/10 with State Propaganda.

@@johnwong5317 Prove it!

@@johnwong5317 Btw, take this opportunity to prove "Xinjiang genocide", "Concentration Camp of Millionns", "Organ Transplant", "BRI's Debt Trap", etc .....do it with style .....e.g. evidence? 😁

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Typical double standard view from the West, or else, why the trade war?

The Chinese version apparently wants to consider publicized thoughts into the credit rating. Americans don't necessarily lose access to things like airline tickets for attending protests without incident or making comments about how "Trump/Biden is a *****".

In Malaysia we also have racial superiority where they give the majority race positions of power such as only having 90% Malays for local universities or giving discounts to Malays to buy houses and a discriminatory budget where Chinese and Indian cities only get 5% of the total budget and the rest of the 95% goes to the Melays

The one in Malaysia is ok tho because why would you focus on the monitories rather than the majority

First the System benefits those that are already doing well financially in this system that further shows they are trustworthy in terms of credit worthiness. This is not faair for most of the population who is trying to scale up the financial ladder. The pioneers have loopholes which was not previously exposed which helps them to be wealthy now. This Credit system is to stop others from being successful financially. Secondly, we are not talking about what the current Credit system is doing. We are focusing on what is the FULL POTENTIAL OF CREDIT SYSTEM AND WHAT IT MAY DO IN FUTURE. WHICH IS IT CAN AND HAVE THE POWER TO DISCRIMINATE WHOEVER WHO DONT FOLLOW EVEN A HEALTH CODE EXAMPLE MANDATORY VACCINATION WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF US WANTS TO AVOID. ITS THE FUTURE USE CASE THAT NEEDS TO CALIBRATE AND ADJUST TO PREVENT AND PROTECT ALL PEOPLE's WELL BEING. UNDERSTAND?7

@@cryptoinsider9305 as mentioned in the video, the financial system we have in the west does exactly the same. Not fair for population who is on the struggling side as you mentioned. I personally know couple of them here at west who arent allowed to get a loan in any bank based on their financial records in the past. Anyone can miss their friends and family without criticism of any one side. It's holiday season after all after a long year full of pandemics. Btw i would clean your keyboard in the holidays if i were you, it seems your caps lock is stuck.

@@cbn1362 If you miss China then no one is stopping you from returning to there.

@@vitaliibraslavets Actually without going too much in personal details there are couple reason I can't visit china for a couple of years.

@@vitaliibraslavets the ccp 🤣

same 哈哈哈哈

This video just tells us that the average Chinese person in one region doesn't know about the system yet. That will change

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! the great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

Making fun is different of hating. Hey, if you are chinese, how are you here, youtube is not allowed in Mainland China.

@@rodrigolins9127 Even your comment, Rodrigo, is rooted within Western exceptionalism and a superiority complex towards Asians/Chinese(racism). I'm not sure you see this. You're really trying to draw a distinction between "making fun" and "hating". Cope. If you think China is powerful and influential now, you've seen NOTHING yet. Better to lose your sinophobic indoctrination now. Sooner the better!

@@supahsmashbro there is a lot of cool stuff from asia. In countries like Japan and South Korea. But I am western and I prefer my own culture.

@@rodrigolins9127 I don't think making fun is rather different from hating. It may be possible to make fun of something and not hate it, but it's rather clear that the Chinese people's language, eyes, music and culture are being made fun of in a discriminatory and hating way.

@@underscoredfrisk but only weak people care about it. The valiant and strong people do not give a damn.

The difference between the Provinces is a temporary illusion of choice. Each province probably has different amounts and strictness of rules to suit the perspective and tolerance of the individual person. As you stated, they eventually plan on unifying the system, which will eventually mean one set of rules nationionally. It was always the plan from the start but they enforce it slowly to tame the people.

@@bigmaculous but it's still a financial credit system for the most part

@@bigmaculous China is kind of like the US, where each state can experiment on their policies independently, except that the Party's promotion process encourages bringing up supposed successes for national consideration. It will likely be all financial at first, until they start pitching more disturbing additions to the algorithm that they'd first test in some third-tier city even most other Chinese have never heard of.

As a Chinese, I'd be inclined to believe those who were interviewed weren't well informed of the system. The system is in partial implementation with a pilot program being tested in a Hangzhou village (2019). SCMP did reports on this. The pilot system works like pretty much like in Black Mirror. Villagers report good/bad deeds of their neighbors and household scores are posted in the town hall. Officials were employed and would also monitor behaviors like "X is a dedicated worker"/"X littered in the river" and add to the score. On a national scale and part of the Social Credit System program, the court can put citizens on the Dishonest Persons list, where they won't be able to: - ride certain public transports (plane/sleeper train/high speed rail/etc), - enjoy high end venues (hotels/club/golf) - buy/sell properties/cars or expand high end properties - vacation - put children in private schools/college - pay for other unnecessary items for living/working - restricted outbound travel - drive on highways - etc. The list of Dishonest Persons are public online and the court in Nanning publishes slideshows of these people on Chinese TikTok (DouYin) The thing is, I believe such a system can do good only if the system's mechanism and rules are transparent and consistent to everyone, but people seem to know how law enforcement works in China. So whether or not this Social Credit System would just be another tool that falls into the hands of a few corrupt officials with no safe guards or used against political targets, is the main question we should be thinking about. For reference, just recently, the Health Code system "glitched" red at the airport for a civil right activist Wang Yu (politically sensitive person) when they wanted to fly to another city when they declined suggestions from their local police not to travel. A red code would mean they may be close contacts and weren't allow to travel and enter venues. Their code returned normal when they returned home the next day.

bad logic. what it shows is that people aren't aware of it, whether it exists or not. people not being aware of it doesn't prove that it doesn't exist. If everyone in China all talks like the sun doesn't exist, that doesn't prove the sun doesn't exist to ascertain whether it exists or not, it's much better to go to more credible sources, like government documents or data collection records, or people in great financial standing getting punished for political behaviors.

It actually did exist, but as a proposal and small scale experiment at one of the Chinese local city government. However, the concept then was proven to be hard to get the desired effect so it was canceled. So there's no such a large scale social credit system exist currently in China.

@@dan339dan The Dishonest Persons list you cite is part of the judicial system, which is far and far from what you find in Black Mirror. The ones be put on such list are those who failed to obey an effective court order, typically who failed to pay their debt. The supreme court has issued clear rules for this. Usually in civil cases such action requires a request from the plaintiff and the court get to decide on it. While criminal record is another thing. Almost all countries in the world impose restrictions on those who were convicted guilty and released with criminal record, and even keep tracking on some specific crimes.

I would like to know, why did communist decide to give a different name for this system, and call it "social credit score" - instead of adopting name that in the world is already widely used - "credit score". My assumption is that this system is in plans to be extended to encompass more and more of every day life thus to go beyond credit score and become "social credit system" is on tracks.

Yeah u never heard it cuz Chinese government hid it from you

this kind of system is not new. never heard of "not paying bounced check also gives you bad/negative credit rating. its meaningful, fyi

The FBI, NSA literally do the same thing the only difference is no one has leaked it yet.

@@RazorNivekUltimate9000 Social credit system in the context of Chinese daily life is more like financial rating which exists in all other countries. But in the context of RU-vid, it's like there's big brother watching you all the time and you are rated on your personal behavior. A system like that is not only impossible, but also meaningless. I'm born and lived in China for more than 20 years but never heard of such system in place until I moved to Canada, lol.

@@RazorNivekUltimate9000 just like any government ? Can you even view your credit score directly tho

Towards the end you see them explain a different kind that is currently only being implemented in one city. Maybe you missed it. They monitor good social behaviour like being a volunteer and deduct points for littering for instance. I think the people mentioning your point didn't watch the whole video.

They deduct points if you criticize the government. It is not the same.

Yes, it's called anti-China propaganda.

No, the people in the video were talking about financial credit, that is also in other countries, however the SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM does not exist in the USA as far as citizens know. The social credit system is not known by many chinese and especially not in major chinese cities as it is only known to be rolled out as a test in the city RONGCHENG in china. Do not mistake them for the same thing, the social credit system does exist and is not the same as financial credit.

@@cornheadahh you cant have it both ways freedom means its ok to kill each other

i just checked my score. it is just around 650 so hers is really high... so she's like, check mine~

She's definitely one of the more wealthy individuals. Look at her outfit

much like us flashing our membership tier hahahaha

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! the great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

I just checked also my score 727 ! Yeah ! But I’m just user of Alipay who don’t live in China.

Exactly. The dummies are full force in the comments.

i wouldnt agree with your statement that people in the west are comfortable with that. most arent

Unaccountable? Companies are accountable to their boards of directors and all laws in the country they're residing in so people can actually go to court against a private company for compensatory damages. Also I know companies seem like super mysterious entities, but all public companies have their largest shareholders listed on sites like Yahoo Finance. CEOs also get fired all the time when they mismanage things, dictators don't. Just a few differences that came to mind.

People aren't comfortable with companies monitoring them, there's just nothing they can do about it. The government monitoring people's actions will become very problematic when you're dealing with an authoritaritan government, such as China.

@@zzXertz they are as accountable as the government in question forces them to be.

do you really believe this video? Do you really believe that these people are being honest? Being honest would risk them their lives.

@@khanradi3941 yes

@@khanradi3941 -... co-could it be that i am brainwashed and biased because i have been consuming western media that always portray china negatively and that my believes are wrong and incorrect? No, it must be that the average chinese citizen LIVING IN CHINA does not know what is happening to them and i refuse to believe anything that goes against my biased views on a country that i have never been tooo!!!!!

@@angrybox1216 it's not that the Chinese citizens don't know. They're perfectly aware, but when you bring a camera in front of them, obviously they won't say what they might want to say, because they know what the Chinese government can do to them

You're a shill paid by the CCP.

@@emyl_420 Yet you failed to give a single one

@@emyl_420 proof?

@@emyl_420 Give us some evidence

@@emyl_420 lol who deleted your comment??

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"honest" as in "I know that if I complain and get caugh doing so I'm getting screwed"

@@irvingchies1626 Exactly!

@@irvingchies1626 jesus christ theres no winning with you people, Whatever they do you you'll always find some way to antagonize it, i stg

Maybe the interviewer said something like this on the beginning "I'll ask you some questions as if I was a foreigner and in a position of don't understand Chinese language"

Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! the great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

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@@user-gongaesa name checks out. Seems you need some more spanking from Tojo and McArthur.

The problem with the video and the comment section is that two different types of credit system are discussed. You (and most of the video) are talking about a simple credit system, as is in place in most countries around the world. In the last minutes (I think around min 14), they switch the topic to the *social* credit system, which apparently not many Chinese people have even heard of and which is not in place yet (although pilot projects exist, as described by the interviewer).

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Hi! great to know a real asset! Keep up good work! the great people of China are the only in world people who genuinely support their own government, China government not 'pretend' to please western nazis like well-meaning loser Putin did until liberation of nazi Ukraine!👌🏻

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@@user-gongaesa On this we agree

We already have something similar to social credit lmao that's the funny part, it's called a credit score.

@@Molund This social score thing was just a shitty reporter that was misinformed and then went kind of viral. There was no truth to it. I have an American friend who lived in China for a while. He would ask Chinese people about the social credit system and it was just like this video, most people never heard of it.

There is almost no positive news about China in western media

@@Molund It's almost like it's not real.

@@TheBoboMosh social credit has to be real where else would it come from

@@alexanderl.6207 it’s exaggerated