Film Theory: How Wonder Woman FAILED Us! 

Thats right LOL 😂

Ah it all makes sense now!

Or convenience Poseidon moved them along, he does exist in DC after all

Absolutely correct, lol

obvioulsy

thanks for the laugh

Stand down?what😂😂

Keno Badogomba these is halarius

HALF LIFE 3 IS COMING OUT EVERYONE WORK OVERTIME SO YOU CAN AFFORD IT!

Oh you bet there coming, you all better prepare yourselves.

OR Run Out Of Fuel... 😅

Well, i have a problem with the Movie. Cause it's objectively bad. Main Character is running on Feminism alone, she has nothing other that charges her Battery. Just feminism - and that's in fact the worst of all characters. She's a hollow vessel for vague ability sets and completly hollow believes, repeating the statement "Truth is what you believe." Only idiots believe that the Truth is what you believe - this is a naive, dumb Mindset, in fact. She's just a badly written character.

@@slevinchannel7589 She said The truth is, it's not about deserve, it's What you believe.

@@paulghencea9037 WTF does that even mean🤣

@Kristopher Leffingwell I did and was disappointed in it tbh , It had an amazing cast but lacked vision.... I recently watched it again to give it another chance but it only made it worse.... Not to mention WW84 was even worse and made me hate one of my favourite childhood hero

Hey, there's always the chance for a Wonder Woman 2 lol

She was probably fighting Cheetah somewhere outside of Europe.

Gameorama91 In BvS she said that she walked away from civilization 100 yrs ago, meaning she probably gave up and never interfered with the 2nd world war.

I hope they make some kind of easter egg or something or just one line from her saying something about she been there, I wont like to watch another WW movie in another World War

Wonder WOman2 is in the works. though it's supposed to take place during the "Cold War", but that could be anywhere from the late 40s to the early 90s

Given they're taking a boat from an island filled with the chosen of a greek goddess, and there are plenty of magical artifacts on the island, I wouldn't be too surprised. Honestly I expected the boat to be magic, probably teleporting at some point.

By the power of "Wululu"

It was me a flew in on a invisible jet flew in attached it to a boat and flew it to land and gave the jet to her a few years later Yup

Yer a wizard Diana !!!!!

Currents

You can't forget 11:50

It was a joke, in subtitles it says fokkers which was a type of plans at the time

The fokker dr.1 was a german triplane during ww1. But that was funny, good play on words lol.

AngrySpud3839 yeah the fokker dr.1 was a german triplane during ww1

@@monika-Chr stop matpat covers in the video

More like lunar powered teleporting amazonian boats.

More like convenience plot holes

Ah yes those things got one of those in my garage.

oh yeah... it's the first boat i learned to sail

Amazon has everything these days

Awesome1 10/10 that made my day lol.

Awesome1 what is this? An original and funny RU-vid comment?

cinamesins would say: 8:52 why are there persians rowing a greek boat? *ping*

Hah, nice one!

Dirty Plumbus that is the joke

Will 2139 ha

TheWitch KingofWolfs. Does that make it better?

UrbanRose No,just I had to point that out

TheWitch KingofWolfs. Also everyone has commented that 😂

UrbanRose I haven’t seen one comment that mentions it but I’ll take your word for it.

TheWitch KingofWolfs. Please scroll through the comments and you will see what I mean

No i don't understand

7:59 Did you just fucking steal a joke from the same video we're watching...

Sounds like Michael Bay are you sure it's not Michael Bay

@@JianCB2 umm yeah i'm pretty sure that @Earl Brooks was making a joke. quoting the video. people are allowed to quote the video saying that matpat's joke is funny. stop being rude af

@@lanajane778 There aren't any indications for that, there aren't even any quotation marks.

I'm that guy 😂

Zooark Animals Adam ruins everything ring a bell.?

_Alice Me_ same

So Me

Saying that doesn't make sense

FINALLY SOMEONE WITH BRAINS GETS IT PIN THIS MATPAT I SWEAR TO ZEUS YOU BETTER PIN IT

Sir Crimson nope. Matthias Patrick is a twat nonce. He only pinned a comment defending him and completely denouncing, condemning opinion and criticism. MATPAT PINNED A COMMENT AGAINST FREE FUCKING SPEECH.

Issabella Donna im greek and trust me it was painful

She's a roman goddess not Greek

You are crazy

Yep

Forgive my shameful knowledge of DC (and Greek mythology, my only qualification to speak on this is some research and reading Percy Jackson), but Ares is in this movie, and he’s a Greek god. Plus, there’s a comic (believe it’s Injustice) where literally every god shows up and they all are Greek gods. Maybe for the sake of the DCEU Diana is a Greek god, because there seem to be very few Roman gods in this franchise. Artemis is Diana’s counterpart, maybe they just didn’t want to call her Artemis

Same

Roman and greek mythology its literally the SAME

@@felop1187 there is some major differences

@@felop1187 like how Athena aint a war goddess anymore

@@felop1187 yeah get your facts straight

Maston Dane did you just call it FEMiscura

Gotta say, you spelt Themyscira wrong. Also, he never really took the time to oversimplify things later, and most of the time where he realizes how little she knows about the world comes after the boat ride. The allied boat in general thing may work out, but it still may take too much time, considering how slow the tugboat would be going. 14 knots ain't much to go 3300 miles.

Well, lets say best case scenario then. What was the fastest boat at the time?

Maston Dane Still would've taken time no matter what type of boat it is. Right?

In early 1900s

i watch your videos my dude... Damn... More skin walkers pls

i'm guessing your comment has to do with the quote on the video that goes "Dress for the job you want" and you want to be a pornstar?

Darkness Prevails You CANNOT ruin THIS movie MAAAAAAAAAT it's to good but I'll see it was amazing

Darkness Prevails This should be pinned!

The movie sucks to me

Yeah, he's so wholesome. Like Farkle Minkus.

He got me in the first half

That is true but in the movie context zues is their creator and raised them to avoid war

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't they diana's deciples?

@@Buterballer no I don't think they were but I could be wrong!

@@Buterballer In myths, the Amazons worshipped both Artemis and Ares.

It doesn't say that in the movie therefore it didn't happen.

Marken Gamer a planes not a foot bruh

LOGIC/MOVIE MAGIC !!

1. It's not that no man is capable, but that no man is allowed. 2. The island moves according to its inhabitants' wishes, even moving through time.

Steve and his plane were the breaking point of the whole shield in the island. After he crashed, men came after him and discovered it. The scene where Diana saw the plane entering, it looked like it broke an invisible barrier

That's honestly a good idea. this comment is sorta under 'liked' cuz this seems like what would have likely happened. But there are still not evidence to help it out, plus if Zeus was trying to make it hidden (to the ancient Greeks anyway) wouldnt he have placed it in a place outside of the areas that the Greeks has been? And if this was the idea, it could be literally anywhere in the seas. Still good theory and thanks for reading. And this is just a COMMENT, A COMMENT THEORY _using an over used joke based on the quote of the video's youtuber_ ! Have a great day :>

Professor Bacon sure, but this is a movie where the antagonist is a god. there's probably magic involved

She did not kill Ares she killed Hermes but Hermes is the god of travel and thuggery

...no, Ares killed Hermes, along with all the other gods.

If they made it there by the means of a deity shouldn't the spy have noticed how soon they made it back comparatively to how long it took him to get to Turkey in the first place? Didn't Ares also mention first seeing her in that one room in England? Not sure about that lat one but these are my thoughts

I read all the Percy Jackson AND the hero’s of Olympus

FAXS

I read this in matpats teacher voice from kindergarten.

I would think it was pretty common knowledge that greek and roman gods are pretty much one and the same. greek under a roman label, for the most part. stealing gods were quite stylish back then, I understand. :)

You: I just read to much Percy Jackson. Me: ExcUSE me but I believe you mean too.

Notserp Zeus is dead in the movie, just wanted to let you know

Oscar Rowley SPOILER ALERT: Zeus is not really dead, they pull the same plot twist in the comics as well.

Notserp you're a legend for your comic logic. That's not sarcasm, You've earned geek respects

Notserp sorry but not every has watched the movie 35 times

DailyTop5s literally the only part of the comment that is truly in relation to the movie is the part about Steve thinking they "got lucky" which is also mentioned in this video.... I haven't seen the movie once and I knew that part thanks to this video.... the rest of the comment is comic book lore... seriously, context clues honey...

Bruh people who know the names of greek gods are not only crazy-only-one-series-book-readers

TheUltimateKraken no they are

I mean....

ayy

@@gdkraken It's a joke Don't take it so seriously

Made me smile

I think this is the answer

Don't read my profile picture oh shit

Don't read my profile picture Sounds about right

or . . . Boats made by magical amazons go faster then ordinary boats.

mikezeitgeist2 exactly!

*Golf Clapping Thank you. I'm glad that at least one person in this never ending sea of comments understands.

bro chill, it's a comic book movie where a whole war ended because of someone's death. lool you sound so mad

Tyler Whetstone THE WHOLE MOVIE IS ABOUT MAGIC Lmao why is magic such a crazy nonsensical idea in the movie where the main character is literally a God

jeduhh I'm not mad at all. I understand that it's just a movie and everyone's opinions are valid (to a point). I just thought the comments were humorous.

Stein Your comment is the kind that I find funny. Yeah, I get that there's a magic lasso and gods and other things, but the fact that everyone is so up in arms about is funny, especially on this channel.

Finally, someone else who spends their days geeking out over mythology

Which is a different movie.

sophia challoner everyone has commented that

Does that mean she needs a bow and arrow instead of a whip?

Does that mean she needs a bow and arrow instead of a lasso?

@Alyssa Kazmierczak it is cannon in a few of the comics I've read - granted that was a while ago.

or the island always moves betcha dint thinka that didja?

christina1986ify and they caught ride via tug boat

christina1986ify that’s actually really probable but the island must always be moving locations which could technically mean that they could have been spat out ANYWHERE and they could have just gotten REALLY lucky

@@pokegirl1799 for all we know they could be spit out in Australia.

Except for when it's wrong *cough* Rogue one *cough* Force Awakens *cough*

AH2002Games well that was before the movie was out in theaters

AH2002Games cough fuck you cough

the great lotfi Real mature, Oscar Neri, he makes other mistakes too; for the Better Call Saul theory, he stated what everyone knew the first episode...

He made you watch a crappy movie XD

WTF is that even supposed to mean.... Care to elaborate, I haven't watched the movie since it's release so I might be missing some context

@@tekkengod2120 Ares says something like "humans don't deserve to live" and then WW gives that reply. Basically even if humans deserve to be destroyed after horrible things they've done, she believes they're better than that

@@LilacMonarch -Which is pretty funny considering Ares believes the opposite, and if believing is the deciding factor, he’s just as “right” as she is.

Neither would I my friend neither would I

honestly same

imagine being on a boat with mattpat for two months.... i would explode from knowlage.

You would remember he said that there was no food

@Ethan Fleck Would you eat her when you're hungry or prefer to get eaten by her?

There is a comment battle above about the "mythical" ship

It's not a magic ship. It's a magic island. Themyscira has the ability to teleport to any location or time period its inhabitants desire.

That would be pretty clever, though Snyder should have communicated such a possibility better in the movie.

They use the same teleporter as they use in Game of Thrones. ie its a plot device to stop the film stretching to 4 hours of useless time period where the characters move from one place to another.

cgarrand08 steve already said there was a tugboat so no that aint it

Soo... How's German's OLD Plane Can Get There ,, All The Way From Turkey 😅?

Bermuda

Thank you thank you myth follower

Yeah, but Diana is the Roman form of Artemis and the Greek gods we’re all killed by Ares in the beginning so they chose Diana, the roman goddess that pretty much copies Artemis, who is the leader of the hunt. And if I remember correctly in one of the mythology’s there are a group of people called the amazons which are like the hunt so it is saying that Diana is like Artemis who leads the hunt who is like the Amazons. This is my guess that makes the most sense to me at least

Artemis/Diana is a hunter who uses bows and knifes and is a eternal maiden (virgin) / man hater and sister of Apollo also this is Greek mythology not roman it is Artemis not diana

Isn't Diana literally the daughter of Zeus?

clap clap clap clap clap so..... wheres the bow ?

NoneThe Less Good Luck with ur GCSEs, they are hell in English to get through, especially cos you are going to sit the new system perhaps

mansi xavier thank you, they're the WORST, the new system is ten times harder!!

NoneThe Less peasant . I got a 9

Hunter Zolomon congratulations on getting a level 9, I hope you feel good about yourself calling a slow learner a peasent

Hunter Zolomon who cares tho? The point is change, not high scores

in this case i think he means Diana as in wonder woman, cause that's her real name. It's just coincidence that WW shares the name with the roman goddess

I only mentioned this because between the middle and beginning of the video, he said that her name was shared by a famous Greek goddess. However, I see where you are coming from. Thx for the feedback

oooh sorry my bad

no need to apologise :D, you are still right :D

besides its a very small part of the video it is easy to miss :D

At the beginning it says that Ares killed Poseidon in the DCEU, not in other universes.

Makes sense. Mat is possibly right when it comes to science and of the sort. But he didn't include Greek Mythology which totally changes everything. Of course Im not sure if it mentions stuff like that though. :/ Also your quote Croecho "since they start off with "The Gods are Dead," but Diana, like other Demi-Gods, has the favor of the Gods wherever she goes." " It makes no sense, the gods are dead yet she gets help by the gods. What does that mean? She has the powers of such?

But The German's Plane *Will Not Change* As Far As That Plane Can Go, Is Italy... (IF The Island Is Not In Somewhere Near Turkey, *Then The Plane Will NEVER Crash There...* Sooo Yeah, Unless The Island Is Moving More Faster Than A Jet..... Which Is Impossible..... It's Still No Use 😅)

@@imashadow699 From memory in the comics the island pretty much just magically teleported from place to place. So it's theoretically possible - especially if you assume whatever force moves the island wanted Diana to succeed. But if that's the case the film *really* should have at least mentioned briefly that the island had this capability...

The movie didn’t establish that, though.

So literal teleporting deus ex machina saved the movie, great!

One of the places seems to be in mediterranean climate of near London, as It seems

its the crimean peninsula, the actor is slavic

Even if the island wasn't in the pinpointed coordinates, Steve did started his flight in Turkey, and that puts enough distance for both the plane and the boat.

See my comment. You don't need a magic boat when you have a magic island...

So the island can teleport in an instant and take them exactly to the point they need?

Ponera Grimoire Apparently not, otherwise they wouldn't need to sail overnight. However, it's possible that it periodically changes location (as part of the enchantment making it difficult to find) and was closer to London when they left it. Diana's mother warns her that if she leaves the island she may never return. This could be an Amazonian rule of law or she could be referring to how difficult it would be to find it again...

:/

Decent joke

Pretty Awesome... Amazon Prime (Diana) *does* guarantee overnight shipping.

Pastel Witch, I mean a theory on how a crab and an unknown mother can have a whale for a daughter.

Maiah Davis Adoption

YYYEEEESSS

Maiah Davis yes

didn't the creator of spongebob debunk the crab meat theory?

Jack Napier is an alias, he has used many of them over the years and Jack Napier has actually never shown up completely in print only in the Tim Burton movie.

Chip Gaming Imahine if it truely was like joker gas and you just saw people laughing like crazy and you see a woman with really red hait whos uneffected POISON IVY HAS REACHED US!!!!!!

Chip Gaming from spanish

Chip Gaming I think doctor poison was hired by America because that’s kinda their thing

BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY

Actually in the Original plot its somewhere between the Aegean dude

the new thymyscyra isnt in Bermuda either but somewhere in MEDITERRANEAN obviously

Mej

This film’s mythology is so loosely based on Greek mythology that you really can’t use actual Greek mythology as evidence. For Christ sake, Ares killed all the immortal gods for some reason. And let’s not forget that Ares is an utter, 100 percent bad guy, despite none of the actual gods being "bad", and the only actual villains were the titans.

Just a question, isn't Hercules Roman? Isn't Hercales the Greek alternative?

CaptianCupcakez!! :D you saw the hishe, I bet. (Shout out to hishe, or how it should have ended, great channel.)

XD

nicholas R. He was also in the June Rebellion

She doesn't use the Godkiller in BvS... it's a different sword.

Syed Shaf Ahmmed her sword is not the god killer, She is. Its just a regular sword

Syed Shaf Ahmmed Zeus probably reconstructed it somehow because he's the main god of Greek mythology and he can do anything apparently or her mother hippolyta or something like that or Gaia or someone

Syed Shaf Ahmmed oh right he did die

It's a different sword. If you look at the hilt in BVS it doesn't have the snake design on it.

*Major* misquotation. The whole point was that Diana faced the truth that mankind was warlike and flawed and in response chose to believe that we could be better than that if given a chance. She wasn't saying anything even close to "truth is what you believe". Cinema Sins is notoriously bad for missing the point. If you ever find yourself making the same point as them, it's worth giving it a closer look and trying to figure out what you may have missed.

@@irrevenant8724 -True, but I think matpat’s and cinemasins’ point was that the theme in general sucked, they didn’t care how it was worded. And I’d have to agree, while on the surface that statement holds a lot of meaning and sounds really powerful, it’s really not. That statement only applies to “good” guys. If belief is the key factor, which it is Diana, then Ares is just as justified if he believes humans are bad.

@@1_atlas_7 Arguably, sure. Is it unrealistic to hope that things can be better and fight for that? Is it more realistic to see the darkness and give into it? Maybe. And maybe not. It's a matter of what principles you choose to live your life by. That's the point. Ares believes humanity is bad and deserve to be destroyed. Diana believes humanity can be better and are worth trying to save. Either of them could be right - maybe both are. Of the two, Diana's path is the only one that could potentially end up with a better world rather than a worse one. Especially as she's willing to fight for it. Do you believe the future can be changed and work towards that? Or do you give up before you begin? You can equally justify either.

@@irrevenant8724 -Yeah, definitely understandable and a little optimism is always good.

oof

Yea that was really annoying

dangit you beat me to it! sorry it's just my dada is turkish and hes constanly rambling on about history /_\

@@ghostwas_here Maybe you should express yourself more respectful

THANK YOU

Jordan Garcia brooo.... The island appearing and disappearing randomly makes the whole thing even MORE confusing. How sure are we that they spawned near London? Plus, no matter how good a navigator steve is, navigating their exact location, direction, and where to go for the allied ships is going to be IMPOSSIBLE. Navigating the direction theyre heading based on the night sky assuming that they had a clear sky wont do much since all theyd know is where north south west and east are but thats it. Unless the boat had the magical property of Jack Sparrow's compass then and only then MAYBE just MAYBE they'd get there. Good point though. But it makes it all the more confusing hahahaha.

Did they mention that in the movie?

We haven't seen that as canon yet in the movie timeline, and we haven't even seen the invisible jet, and we're not sure those will be explained yet, but good theory

psst. comics is not movieverse... else they could have flown in diana's invisible jet. Dude. soooo

Jordan Garcia thymescira is like summer home for jla..go watch animation too

Does this really matter for the theory?

ariana.shelton7649 its kinda like how apollo and helios get confused with from time to time

Because she was named Diana in the comics. That being said it's no surprise if certain Greek characters both real, myth and fictional at any given time period would have Roman names. Considering the Greeks themselves have intermingled with Romans in the past both in real life and in fiction. Take for example Appolonia of the first Godfather movie. When they first described her to her father they mentioned she seemed more Greek than Italian. So if a half Greek half Italian could live in Sicily then it wouldn't be a surprise if Diana of Themyscira had Roman blood or if Hippolyta just liked the name.

If you want to get that much into it, the Amazons weren't even Greek. Not in mythology, not in real life. Mythology puts their origins either in Lybia, or in present-day Ukraine. The Scythian women whom the Greeks most likely based the Amazons upon lived in the latter area. This is just another case of pop-culture diluting and mixing things together.

ariana.shelton7649 i have a question for you, which name sounds better? Diana does, shes a character BASED on the goddess artemis, they mustve thought it would be funny to give her, her Roman name just for fun, who knows? Sure the name is wrong but its based on artemis, how do i know? What names do they use for the other gods? Ares, zeus, and the others which are all the greek version because if it were to be Roman, Ares wouldve been called Mars

Jackson Gray thank you

i was pretty sure that themyscira is another dimension, in the comics its "a place you cant get to unless you already know how to get there" as in you can scour the entire earth and not find it. sounds like another dimension to me so i dont see any reason they cant enter our dimension at any point on the globe.... but the movie is a different "universe" and the "caught a ride" line kind of implies steve navigated which might ruin that explanation.

Yeah also I thought that if there was some godly power making it faster, wouldn't Steve have noticed? Surely he knows he can't sail from Greece to London in a day

Finally,someone with some sense.

Amazons were given gifts by the gods when they were created, so that they could be better diplomats. We know that, because Diana tells us so when what's-his-bucket questions her ability to speak in any language. I don't think it's much of a stretch to suppose that the gods also gave them magic boats so that they could get to conflicts-in-the-making before they became, you know, actual military conflicts.

Same I'm also a huge fan of Greek mythology who is your favourite god

but I mean, didn't the romans just absorb and change the Greek gods once it took over Greece?

@@muddyerbbine6254 that's irrelevant and still doesn't change the point. Two different pantheons of gods and two different cultures. Rome copied elements of Greek religion but still added their own flavor. There are minor differences.

As a real life greek I can confirm

Muddy Erbbine that’s irreverent

Poseidon is a bitch. Just ask Odysseus.

Lauren Anderson Poseidon is dead

Ares killed all the gods

Is in a prision of America, Morty!

That could have happened. It totally makes sense. However, the movie doesn't mention help from Poseidon or any other sea god. It would have been really easy too. Steve: "I'm not complaining, but how'd we get here so fast?" Wonder Woman: "I prayed to several sea gods to speed us on our way." Steve: "Neat."

More people need to like this. This made me laugh so hard.

Hail Giratina The true god These videos are interesting and entertaining but if we're fed false information, the value of the video goes through the floor. We're also here to learn about our favourite games or movies, false information doesn't help that. Not sure about his video yet, haven't watched it yet.

could i say one thing? why does his videos have to be correct? It's a theory after all, you either accept it or you dont, heck it's a fictional movie so it wont happen in real life you may even add, again it's for fun. most of the time theories arent even accurate so if youre convinced then you agree with the theory if not then you dont case close

well lets be fair. The film/game theorists is all about how to use science and facts to explain something a game/movie presents to us. This is not supposed to be his opinion, it is supposed to be factual so if his videos are "wrong" as you say, what is the point in watching them? The reason some people "tear him... down" is because he is objectively wrong, not subjectively.

While I agree about not putting down people for their opinions, the people were pointing out facts he got wrong which irritated those viewers. They weren't doing that because they didn't like his opinion.

why do you assume his fan base is little kids? I am a long time fan and see most of "criticism" as hate, because it's literally just calling him names and making fun of him instead of pointing out what is wrong with the theories or research.

X naM ageM Reversed 😃 i liked ur comment

Nashi Dragneel has Honor thanks!

Take this like

X naM ageM Reversed yeah them jerks just jealous because they dumb

X naM ageM Reversed Maybe he is overwhelmed by the amount, but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of the criticism is correct. I am just guessing that most humans have hard time mentally handling the negative feedback since our cynical minds tends to focus on the negative first.

I don't know........... Mat did smack talk Andromeda that one time...... SHUT UP I LOVED THAT GAME, *AND YOU ALL KILLED IT!!!!*

Keno Badogomba or you could break his theory with the same thing that breaks almost all of the film theories magic. Magic island that is magically cloaked I don't know and maybe magically moves so perhaps it can't be tracked on a map.

When did he bash the movie? Surely you don't believe any criticism automatically constitutes bashing, right?

Keno Badogomba I never watched the movie I cud but I didnt

That whole romantic relationship was really unnecessary though imo.

The biggest issue was Diana had no arc. She just jumped to "it is Ares" over and over

but on that note, Disney is going to rule all TV including DC and they already matched Hercules with Zeus, I mean that's like saying Heracles was the son of Jupiter. I guess they are preparing for the inevitable *tHaNoS SnAp*

si10 that's actually a really good theory, damn.

Your logic is "It's magic, we don't have to explain it." That's stil impossible. Convoys of ships went from the United States and Portugal to Great Britain, so it could not have been in the Atlantic. And if it wasn't in a convoy route, German U-Bats were literally everywhere and would notice a new island, which would have been radioed in, and caught by intercepting code-breakers. Meaning, at best, they were by the coast of North Africa, which proves MatPat's theory of them not having enough time.

si10 nice theory, but is it canon?

but if it was moving anything more then 2 miles and hour it would be noticed and it wasnt moving that sweet 60 miles and hour for it to maybe work

Wow, didn't think of that. 10/10 underrated criticism.

While she sees Sonic.

Cillian Brouder I think it's because Themysceria is an alternate realm- similar to Olympus- it isn't of earth- and the wall of glass they went through is like the bifrost- it's a gateway, and the boat can be pre-navigated to fit the user's will- it is magical after all. Themysceria- even in comics- was never a physical place on earth. It was a realm. So what Pat is saying- is debunked, IF Themysceria is not of earth, and only if. Because when they went through the portal- it didn't always take them to the same place every time.

Yeah using the Magic plot devices that is not going to work

Yi Ming Low we're talking about comics here, bro- their physics are hardly ever realistic

Or she had help from Poseiden

Cillian Brouder that's what I thought or it telported them there

awesome RU-vidr Ma I didn't get it

jojo cortes he did a rule of 3's joke

jojo cortes that trick is so old, can also mean that girl/woman is so old

jojo cortes i dint get it either

jojo me neither

Yes this does leave a plothole of how Steve wasn't surpised or worried, but he probably saw England and thought what the heck guess it was a magic boat and tries to hide how strange it is to him

DcComicsNRD boi, I forgot about that.

Actually, Diana is a Roman godess, so, Neptune is the name you should be using. Oh, and fuck DC.

Diana is a Roman goddess but she's the daughter of Zeus and was named Diana by her human mother. She's not the goddess of the moon and ijn this universe Aries killed the original gods.

DcComicsNRD you can't kill a god. They're immortal according to actual Greek mythology

You're an idiot and not a real dc fan. It's cannon to the movie and universe of wonder woman, and in mythology Zeus killed his fasther cronos and multiple gods die but only typically gods, demi gods or hero's with the blessing of a god can kill another god. In wonder woman it is revealed that the god killer is not the sword that Diana stole from the Amazon's upon leaving but rather her, daughter of Zeus, for only another god can kill a god in his own words. In the legend of Aries and the Amazon's Aries killed the other gods and Zeus created the Amazon's and gave them Diana. You sold.

Claireness Punkster that’s what I was thinking

Claireness Punkster ahh Hermes (or Kronos) always speeding things up

I was thinking the same, but you are 100% right. Steve should've been surprised at the sudden change of location.

spoiler: All the gods are dead except Aries and as we later find out Diana. (at least that is what the "mother" and the other amazons say)

Claireness Punkster not to mention that by DCU canon (if this train wreck of a plot is indeed canon) the entire Greek pantheon is dead.

There's nothing wrong with a woman having a relationship with a man. She can be strong and independent and still have a loving mutually respectful relationship with a male member of the human race.

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@@ultra3068 May I ask what ..... Means all I was just trying to say that a someone can have a relationship and still be there own person. Besides no one ever tells a man that they can't have a relationship with a woman and still be independent. I don't see any reason why it would be different the other way around.

@@allyvandergaast8746 Dearest, Ally. I regret to inform you that this is a quote from ERB. Not to be interpreted as a anti-feminist comment but a hit at Wonderwoman herself. This is not to be determined as a relationship problem with a gender difference but a reference for Wonderwoman fans and, ERB fans. Best regards, ULTRA P.S. The "...." on your comment on my comment was you leaving a feminist gender equality comment 7 months later.

@@ultra3068 I wasn't trying to be feminist this time nor was I advocating for gender equality. I just didn't understand. Your probably right in the end no one is wholly their own but perhaps a relationships make us better maybe they make us something more than the whole of our parts. By the way I like your username does it mean anything?

yeah i was thinking that it would kinda be like nonexistent in the real world and it would basically be able to go any where on earth so when you leave you can go where you need to

If I don't mistaken, it's the same thing in the comics.

Cybertronian that'd be very similar to Calypso's island from the mythology

SuperPunMaster It's just my theory. A FILM THEORY! It's just a plausible theory that could explain the timeline of the movie, it's not necessarily true.

I like this idea a lot, but if Steve's crash range was still about the same, how quickly would the island have to 'shift' to actually get them near enough to England, not including geographical luck (to an extent) and the amount of weather disturbances that could cause (which you could chalk up to magic as well, I suppose, since there's literally a magical bubble) as the island would literally be leaving a vortex of air disturbances and water as the island dissapears or shifts or whatever it does. At best (as in, best for humanity's future) it'd maybe create some large waves or a whirlpool with the water. I'm not sure though. The wording's kinda important. I never read the comic, just watched the animated film when I was a kid, so I'm not sure whether Théo's comment was referring to 'shifting' or 'teleportation' as how it went down in the comic, but that would definitely effect how the movie turned out. Also, even with the idea of teleportation, unless we're going by the 'geographical will' theory comment the chances that they'd teleport close enough to England are slim, and if the island was shifting it'd have to be moving pretty fast since it's, well, a giant island and water resistance is still a thing. Idk there's a lot of holes in this, but I think this is my favorite counter-theory in the comments yet. Perhaps if we went off the idea of geographic will (so if they just exited the magical bubble and appeared at a magical coordinate or at a coordinate they consciously or subconsciously willed the magic to drop them off at) this would certainly be a plausible idea, though probably not the right one. So please add on your ideas!! And off topic from this idea, I'm pretty sure in the animated version the gods were Roman, and Diana is the roman goddess of the hunt as well as being greek I'm pretty sure. Correct me if I'm wrong though, since I'm running solely off of caffeine as I've been pulling all-nighters for school and really don't have the brain power to cross-reference the animation/comic/movie/mythology.

yes but if it were closer to London Steve's plane wouldn't have made it to Themyscira

could it have maybe moved closer to london ? idk i'm still w matpat but tryna give the benefit of the doubt

Doesn't change the fact that the plane would have to land near Themyscria 'somewhere' near Turkey. And from the video we see that the plane landed right on the very brim and edge of its zone of flight. That was the best possible outcuome.

Christopher Friday no, like, he landed on the island when he did while the island was by turkey and it moved super close to london

Christopher Friday *after he got on it - because "it knew" or because of fate/destiny or magic or something idk