Film Theory: Is Daenerys Going MAD? - Game of Thrones 

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I tip my hat to you

Well I wouldn’t say she went mad... it was more like experiencing grief. She lost her best friend, she lost 2 kingdoms, she lost her husband, she lost her unborn child, and she lost two of her dragons. She was contemplating all of this information thinking that she wasn’t going to lose again.

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Matpat! Matpat king! *Kneils*

Alex S All hail Mat the Modest Theorist!

Better than the fucking three wheeled raven we got!

Anyone has the feeling this was, in a weird way, a self fulfilling one? What if Dumb and Dumber used this one, just to finish the series as soon as possible, and hop on the Star Wars train?

Some autors really read theories of their fans and pick cool one

I mean. GoT was written more then a couple dozen years ago

He also predicted that jon was a targaryen a few years before it was revealed....

Alex Raileanu so did the writers for the show, that’s why George sold them the writers to make the show

Alex Raileanu yeah but people came up with that theory almost 20 years ago

Same here 😅

There's no need of a genius to actually see that she would have become mad. It was obvious since she was planning with Drogo to conquer westeros in a questionablr way back in S1...

questionable*

@@kornisoni6625 Lmao, you only say that because you know how it ended.

@@mipmip4575 for the exception that i always said that she was a crazy bitch since she didn't blink when Drogo killed Viserys, or her embracing the Dothraki culture. And had the proofs during her stay at Qarth that she was mentally unstable, when she confronted the merchant and demand that he give her his ships just because. Only people blindly excited about her dragons and platinum hair never noticed her true nature before the last few seasons.

*There in the 3rd row sits: Bran Stark. Fixed it for ya

Bailey Glad I could help

He changed your word 'stand' to 'sit', it wasn't about the..

@@therealbenlove oh that makes a lot more sense

The three wheeled raven spoke the truth to Matpat, and now we all see the Lord of Wheelchair Porn and the Mat of Pat was right!

Unlike Game of Thrones! (Ba-dum ching)

Nice

A bit too perfectly

@@Garanseho nice ^^

Like fine wine.

Eliza Vlad mat pat = bran

Sam Hines *MatPat as Bran Stark In got theme intensifies*

He predicts everything about the starks

Actually all his GoT theories are right.

You should check out his Star Wars theories as well, you'll be surprised.

lol

Readers of the books saw it comming about 6/7 years before the series came out, but hey...

@@TSEDLE333 but this is film theory not book theory❤️

*diet coke

"Funny" thing: Bran saw the dragon above KL in one of his visions, hence he knew what was gonna happen. But beeing the TEC, he didn´t care.

I CAN. SEE THE FUTURE!!! JON IS THE PRINCE WHO WAS PROMISED AND STILL DOESNT DO CRAP

Everyone who heard Bran say he can predict the future: "You little BASTARD, why didn't you say something!!"

i was the 1000 th like

All hail our new king Bran

Yep

the theory is still not true... because it's not a theory, it is a hypothesis based on science (almost), a theory is a descriptive, exploratory or explanatory Framework which provides insights into links between "facts" And i don't buy the fact, that the mentality (unless its degredation like alzheimers) is so tight linked to the genome... she is just a bad person... driven by "destiny" she is just like the dictators she wanted to fall, only divided from them by the ideology, not by the methods... she wanted to rule by opression to from a perfect world... just bad.. not mad

@@MitgliedT5 You're referring to a scientific theory. In general usage, theory is synonymous with hypothesis.

@@DarkVitamins wasn't the meyster of the Nightswatch a Targaryen too?

2016 even

Did it really?

@@Dreamfyre_ it did

bound to get it right every once and a while

unlike game of thrones

@@cassiusfelix2805 a broken clock is right twice a day.

Matpat predicts the future with an accuracy of 3%

This theory has been established way before mat pat got to it

Nah! As I said above, fans have speculated about Dany eventually going mad long before the show even existed. It would only be prophetic if MatPat had predicted _the fans_ going apeshit over it.

@@tarvoc746 I have tears streaming down my face. Too farkn right it made us crazy, IT'S BULLSHIT!

star wars 101 the Lannister’s did something very similar to the Targaryens in theory this was justice

elliott j-s-r How was this justice? 😂😂

Do the Artur Boruc she’s getting justice for what happened the day the Lannister’s turned on the mad king and sieged the city killing the men raped the women the north men where apart of that siege aswell and events probably happened the exact same way

elliott j-s-r how in the holy hell does that make sense

Ashley Brunkhorst vengeance then let’s just go for that

GraveKing3473 It really came out of nowhere. Fans shouldn't have to dig and form mental gymnastics like MatPat does to understand a plot line or character arc. Danny was always meant to go mad, just not over the course of two episodes

@@idkcallmewhatever6211 He references an episode from 2016 where Tyrion is pointing out how similar to The Mad King she is! Every time she talks about the Iron Throne and the Seven Kingdoms, she talks about wreaking her revenge, and sounds more like her brother than the Breaker of Chains. She even gets the same crazy look in her eye he used to when he talked about 'waking the dragon.' It's all over the place.

Forshadowing is not char ecter development.

@@Zeitgeist2000 It is if you follow up on it. Which the series does. Also, it's well worth taking into account that Dany is somewhere around 17 at the finale. A 17 year old, full of adolescent confidence, built into a Messiah figure who has a divine right to a throne and a 'noble goal', combined with absolute authority on account of having three goddamn dragons who obey her commands, is bound to go off the deep end. If people couldn't see that coming, it's because they chose not to. Was it somewhat rushed at the end? Yeah. But it still made perfect sense from a narrative standpoint.

@@Zeitgeist2000 "FoReShAdOwINg IsN't ChArActer DeVeloPMent!" good thing this isn't foreshadowing... it's character dialogue of INTENT, and character ACTION, if a character states "I might burn cities down" then burns cities down. that is development.

It's a possibility, but unlikely. Dany doesn't really display any other symptoms of variable Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, the human form of Mad Cow disease. People with the condition suffer from rapid mental deterioration, muscle problems such as a loss of coordination, and slurred speech. Also, the disease is always fatal, most patients slipping into a coma and dying within 13 months. If Dany had vCJD, she very likely would have died from it long before she ever got to Westeros.

@@Prich319 Imagine if the show ended with Danny losing her muscle coordination on her dragon and falling into the burning city. I'd pay good money to see that!

there are at least 8 possible causes. 1 Her connection to her dragons might influence her mind like skinchangers take on trades of their animal. 2 Dragonblood, it is possible that through bloodmagic and stuff it is true, that they are kin, hybrid animals tend to have messed up instincts. 3 lots of people mess with her head, the undying, quaith, possibly even euron meddle with her dreams and unconciousness 4 inbreeding 5 trauma 6 prions 7 she has visions and survived stepping into a pyre, no wonder she has delusions of granure 8 a combination of some or all of the above . . .

Respect for the pfp

@@jjmichael5059 Holy carp, it's been a long time since someone knew what it was. Thank you!

Aye lmao 😂 same

Technically he rigged that lottery.

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@Hans Solo /r wooosh

I'm glad we had someone try to give us the ending that was long coming. Everyone wanted a fanfiction happy ending that wraps everything up and makes all persons happy. This was never a fairy tail.

Hans Solo do you know anything about the 3 eyed ravens ? They can see all of the past and future that’s how bran new where Jamie would be when he arrived and how the past 3 eyed raven knew that bran was destined to become the next one . Go read the lore

Lucas Corrêa de Lima there is no woooosh she is incorrect in how she worded her joke and that’s on her

That’s just a fact, a Film Fact. Thanks for watching.

This means a council will rule Westeros in the end.

@@tienouttatien8942 Or hopefully the man they built up for 8 years.

I saw a theory which stated that Bran may have driven Dany mad at the last moment causing her to destroy Kings Landing and that he is gonna be the big bad. I thought that that would be kinda cool.

The Khaleesi is innocent.

Xavier Owens and what I predicted came to pass

@@MoaiedE congratulations you're a prophet

@@elevate07 I'm a survivor

Pol josev wotson who wants to murder trillions

Carlos Guzman with all 6 stones I could simply snap my fingers, and they would all cease to exist, I call that... Mercy

A soul for a soul

lol

This isnt the first haha.

For once LoL

omny66 But basically one of his first. This dude's always off.

@@ToughDuff he has been right quite a bit. and its more entertainment than being right

Think about this: *She ends slavery but she doesn't put an end to humans fighting amonst each other* This is something, that if Jon knew about, he would never bow to her again. *She preaches about being a breaker of chains, and yet she burns people if they don't follow her, making a metaphorical set of chains right there* *She talks about being a hero, yet she burns, kills or tortures anyone who crosses her once. Keep an eye out, she has never done anything where, directly or indirectly, she did not benefit.* She fought her way into power over the space of six seasons through fear and inspiration and her promise to do the right thing, without actually looking at the reality and seeing what she's doing. Jon managed to get into power within the space of one season without even trying. But does that mean Dany is more deserving of the Throne? Not necessarily. See, Dany had all the right resources and the name she needed to have people wanting to get her favour when she was in power. But Jon, presumably, had nothing but his heart and his will to do the right thing and to act, not for power or for gold or for Last names, but out of love. That's why Jon should be king, because he does everything for the greater good (except for those cave moments with a hot ginger, in which case, unlike Ned Stark, the man he admired, he disbands tradition, realising traditional methods, oaths and honour just doesn't work sometimes)

This comment didn't age well, this video in other hand...

Episode 5 proved it 💯

Alejandro Marenco frl

After Season 8 episode 5- Confirmed.

Foreshadowing =/= Character Development, yes we all know she was about to turn into crazy mode, but they should have take time for this.

Dimitri Solaz it’s been since the 2nd season you just need to put attention to what she says

Well, maybe it snowballed?

@@dimitrisolaz6921 You know when I knew it unequivocally? When she meets Jon. Her pompous behavior was laughable. When Jon popped back, I loved it. Like he said, he didn't know her, no one in Westeros knew her. You would think she would at least try to bring people to her cause without threatening them with death if they don't comply. It's when I realized the "I'm a liberator" was straight bullshit. Her attitude worsened as season seven progressed and became downright scary after she found out who Jon really was in season eight. I agree that it was rushed, but so many moments showed this would happen very soon.

how can it be set up for multiple seasons and still be too fast?? many people figured this out EARLY into the show, so how can it be too fast for you and not those others? how many years did you need walked down this path? would the proper "speed" be done in such a way that you knew FOR SURE what was gonna happen before it did, because ironically thats called bad writing. i didnt need any more YEARS added onto that story to make it feel right, it was already starting to get boring for me. the only entertainment i got out of dany was arguing with fans on youtube about how she wasnt the hero and them calling me stupid for almost a decade only to be proved right....so yeah, pretty satisfying for me

Wow true foreshadowing

wow...THAT one is fucking amazing!

Me too

Same

Same

Exactly, but these morons aren't ready for that conversation

Is rhaegal a son of the mad king ???

Well if you consider the grandparents. Targaryen side, siblings. Stark side, cousins, so I guess ther is a bit of coefficient there. Hahaha.

@@joshuaaudiedepositario3041 it still get reset because Targaryens and Stark's have never been in the same gene pool so to speak.

Pat said that the reason Daenerys son died was because she isn't capable of producing healthy offspring. If that's the case then her brother Rhaegar shouldn't be able to have any offspring, when he had two children with Elia Martell. Also the dothraki and Targaryens don't share any gene pool.

i know how it will end

@@brandonscott3030 how?

it took 3 years to confirm this theory

@@muhammadryan654 yeah, but he finally got one right

And now she clearly is crazy

Exactly. When people go mad it’s usually predictable and fictionally convenient, the madness itself often showing respect to the pacing of television story telling. /sarcasm.

She was going mad since season one... The fact that people weren't able to see it is a metaphor for how tyrants like Hitler get to power by the will of the people who later say "oh I thought he would be a fair choice"

Exactly.

jelloled yeah, totally agree and I would that even if it was done over a longer period people who had spent 8 years with Dany cheering for her victories will always be shocked with the outcome

@@Dovahnuke except she wasn't responsible. Her dragons ran wild for the longest of time and she crucified a bunch of people who weren't actually guilty. Honestly Daenerys had been doing fucked up shit for a whole now

Brad Foust me too😂😂😂

That's everyone watching this in 2019

Yup

Omg that's amazing!

WolfzieDraws Or maybe a game theory on Dead Rising. I would love a theory on that game.

I'd watch that

Good account name Maybe he can use that tower at the end of the film where Dumbo jumped off from to determine if you can fly. And he doesn't even need to estimate how high it is, the clowns stated that it was 1000ft.

I'd watch that episode! Good idea.

She was her father and her brother. Viserys had a very big influence on her and it showed. She tried to shy away from who she was at heart: a dragon. It's what her brother taught her to be.

how is dany going mad now??

@@whitney2080 did you change your mind yet ?

@@yusufalasmi9169 lol

Lol she is

Dawn hmmm

Here after episode 5 too.

Shes not mad King’s landing deserved it

@@akapi7386 Don't know about the whole of King's Landing but Cersie did for sure.

And yet a large amount of people are "ASTOUNDED" by the fact that Dany is mad lmao

@@akapi7386 LOL

**ahem ahem** STARWARS **ahem ahem**

I think a lot of people are

Shit. I saw this coming since season 6.

Yep!!!

Definitely going mad.

"I worry about her state of mind"

Would’ve been more interesting if she weren’t.

This could very well be the first correct prediction Matpat does

I mean, it was always there...

@@CountDVB we are talking about a girl who locked up her own children to save innocents just bcuz a one kid got burned but guess shes mad all along but tyrion who burned thousands alive or arya who makes human pies at a small age are cute lil troublemakers 🤣🤡

Well that and the fact that Stark features (brown hair and eyes) are dominant traits and the silvery-blonde hair as well as purple eyes of a Targaryen would be recessive.

Asher Darius Not necessarily. Blonde hair and blue eyes are scientifically considered genetic mutations. And since Jon wasn't a product of inbreeding the mothers dark hair features are in fact would produce dominant features than features from his father. Also to go with the old saying that boys look like their mothers, and girls like their fathers.

Indeed, the Targaryen phenotype is recessive. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's "degraded". Blond hair is a recessive trait, for example. That's why Lord Arryn found out about "the seed is strong". Black hair is a dominant trait.

Jon is only 1/4 Targaryen

Maybe you should study genetics a little better. Every son gets half of the DNA from each parent. So Jon is 50% Targaryen.

Simply because it was foreshadowed by Martin but "developed" by the series writers who kinda missed the shot... Shame though.

TheOtherGuy021 if it had been overdeveloped y’all would’ve been complaining that it was too obvious

@@nickmatthewsmusicstudio Just admit the writing has gone downhill.

Right as I saw this comment, I also saw a video on the side with Daenerys in the thumbnail. The title was, 'Foreshadowing is Not Character Development.' LOL.

TheOtherGuy021 not developed. Would you of liked her to start burning retreating soldiers earlier on or did you want to feed someone to her dragons?

The most inbred people in the world are actually middle easterners not white southerners. www.quora.com/Which-is-the-most-inbred-ethnic-group-in-the-world

Pun intended

Sweet home Essos

Yeah but cousin marriage was okay then and still is in some countries...there are less possibilities to have teratogenesis not zero but less

@@exwenannekrozwgrafostopata375 Also, if Tyrion's wife is his 3rd cousin of farther then technically it isn't considered inbreeding.

She was right. Unlike her father she actually succeeded in burning them all.

Nope. She burnt 'em

That Shucking Greenie ikr

Actually imagine being her: Aaaaaaand finally we are here Daddy. I finally have a chance to see what you have been seeing so many years ago, I feel reunited with my lost family. They ain't right Daddy. They desecrate our family Daddy. - I hear you Daenerys my child. - Daddy? I am here Daddy! This is our city! I am finaly here! - I want you to make something for me my child. - Everything Daddy! - BURN THEM...BURN THEM... BURN THEM ALL!!!

​@@matthewkarloski4775 She is not medically ill. it is a question of a psyche. She flipped - and change her polarity. it is called Enantiodromia.

I watched this two years a ago and said to my self what a fucking idiot this couldn’t possibly happen Guess I’m the idiot

this was made 2 years ago

@@geoffreybentley5619 The upload date is 2016

I guess ex-fans for some

Wel tbh they kept repeating she was not her father in the show

I saw it coming from season 1

I guess the reason many people love her is because she started out so innocent. She was just that cute little almost-woman who got married off to some brute and then stood up against him and became badass. Everyone was cheering for her. So the gradual process of her turning cruel isn't quite as apparent to everyone as it is to you (and some others). But honestly, that's why I love her. That scene where she killed everyone by burning them and then stepped out of the fire, I just wanted to cheer and scream for her. It was mad as fuck, but also really amazing. Every time she does something like this, I feel goosebumps all over because she's just so amazing (and cruel).

I wouldn't say she's that likeable (certainly not anymore) and is often difficult to fully sympathise with.

Y'know, a lot of those points could also apply to Trump. Well, _someone_ had to say it...

+Kevin E. Gonzalez Not to you, apparently. But she's one of the most popular characters on the show, so

I gave a thumbs up just because of the Sephiroth line!

Shrimp Cannon Mattie the Frogg

thats also a line in the show

@@thetrueslugman the line is used in the latest episode R.I.P Varys

You called it!!

Now you said the same as Varys

It’s mentioned in s8 e5

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except for the Pantene pro hair, that went out the window!

Caitlin MacMillan me

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Film theory and others called this out 3 years ago and even long before that, but people who don't pay attention are saying they assassinated her character or she would never do what she did in 8x5... Smh.

@@MFBloosh Im not surprised she did what she did either. I saw the signs. Heck i think it's an interesting way to take her character. I just wish they had a longer season to draw out her change. For example say the season was...12 episodes. Episode 6 could have been when "blank" dies and the remaining six episodes could revolve around her declining mental state and the season finale would be the destruction of "Blank" with jon or arya stopping her. (I tried not to spoil anything) (Btw I know you aren't saying I was in the other camp of viewers. I was just giving another take on why others may be annoyed) :)

@@caitlinmacmillan9573 I'm in the same boat. 10 episodes would've greatly helped in season 7, and it would've made all the difference this season. It definitely was rushed when it comes to pacing, so that's what I'm upset about. What I find laughable is the fact that so many people missed all of the clues that pointed to this outcome. I just wish there was more time to spend on a little more development for the character motivations, but as far as what happened in the episode, everything played out the way it always was going to. When it comes to Jamie and Cersei, the Valonqar prophecy wasn't included in Maggie The Frog's talk with Cersei, so it didn't bother me as much as it bothered others.

Got marry my nephew to continue the tradition

incest=wincest

Don't worry, they might end up killing one another.

+David Shen or she's like a spider they both fuck and she kills him

lol

he did not anticipate anything. just played one of the theories and ready

XD

"I've had my eyes on the mad king for a while now." -Matpat

XD XD

#madpat is now a thing

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Adding to that, isn't there something about Viserys being misled all the time and manipulated into being even more of a jerk than he was ?

AdeptusHereticus Not sure what you mean?

I think he meant that Viserys, who showed signs of short-temperedness and instability, might not have been so because of his genes but instead been like that due to his unstable upbringing. Aerys was showing signs of problems before Duskendale, though.

@manband20 I don't remember where I heard that ... Basically, because Viserys does not understand the dothraki language, some people mistranslate some things as to provoke extreme reactions and create misunderstanding, notably Jorah and one of the slave girl of Dany. The scene where he storms in Dany's tent furious that he has been "summoned" by her, and the scene where he interrupts Dany's "heart eating" ceremony" are supposed ot be results of that ... Or maybe I took a theory too seriously ? ^^

AdeptusHereticus I think that was Preston. He said Varys had Jorah and Doreah? keep making him get angrier and angrier until he blew up and would end up getting himself killed.

Thank you, truly

I'm pretty sure he already did Doctor who episodes

he never finished them

still waiting on that dhmis episode

I'm still waiting for dhmis

why is everyone saying 2 years,it was made in 2016.

three years ago...

@@ericolens3 Arbor gold. That Dornish swill is as sour as Dornishmen

Yes this is book lore, which hasn't been mentioned in the series yet.

they were signs before that.

Aerys was also tortured by his captors , House Darklyn. Aerys became convinced that his Hand of the King Tywin Lannister and his son Rhaegar Targeryen were going to let Lord Darklyn torture him to death before they would take the castle.

Yeah he makes it looks easy

Well it is just a theory. Even if it's well researched and could be true in the end, he's not George R R Martin which means it's impossible to predict how the series will end.

Well... there is a possibility that daenerys mum cheated on her dad, which means the inbred percent would go back to zero

his "weeks of research" is just him plagiarizing other peoples theories

Lannister*

B Flat or literally the entire "how to win each and every Oscar award" series. edit: can be simplified to "a matpat might at some point decide to maybe think about starting any of the ones he's said he'll do, even from the inception of this channel."

Dare2BFlat Dumb bitch spells a very simple name like a complete moron.

RU-vid Hero Thanks for being such a mature and nice person. I don't know what the Internet would do without you...

dude nobody cares

Danny vs the snow-man

So when you turn out to be 100% wrong, what does that mean? That "100% confident" in your case is meaningless and irrelevant?

***** No, I am just mocking a statement like "100% confident" in this context. I mean, look: I am a HUGE Dany fan, and even I am still not "100% confident" that she won't go horribly wrong somehow. To suggest such would be ridiculous.

I am 100% confident that you're 100% confident.

+n0wheregrrl You seem to be 100% confident of him being wrong because you state it as fact right off the bat ;)

When she finds out Jon is her nephew = "Oh! shit!"

Kate S Incest relationships were normal in Medieval times though because paganism was the norm in Europe before Christianity took over.

Brooke507 Not really, unless those living in places like islands and isolated mountains incest was and stills being rare. Even many ancient european cultures used to kidnap women from others tribes and families.

She's already marrying her half brother.

Incest is gross but in her family history there was a Targaryen called Daemon who married his niece Rhaenyra, so yeah. It's not really out of the realm that it'll happen on this show.

yea she should have burned down a small village first then it would be more expected. Or lose most of her trusted advisors and friends in horrifying ways and have her lover betray her right to the one thing she's wanted in her entire life. only then would it make sense.

You wouldn't call it mad if you expected it, you will call it understandable instead

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Hi

+Ordonity no you shut up

+Paul Reinders hi

Hi Peter! I'm a big fan of your videos :)

are you a wrestling fan?

@@jessicauba7722 Used to be. I keep informed of what's new with RU-vid.

Like there’s no wrestling fans currently.. only ex wrestling fans .. and u have vinny mac to thank for it

cat ✨ it didn’t come out of nowhere. It was just poorly executed

@@aleisshiki3649 It was a bit rushed, yes, but most criticism for this has been that there was nothing to show she was gonna go mad.

We knew it was going to happen, it's just it's meant to be a gradual slow burn. Initial she only did things like that to oppressive people and she went from fighting for the oppressed to being an oppressor in the course of a few episodes.

Not that there was nothing in subtle, but in the surface, there was nothing that hinted her going mad. She was pretty adjusted in Essos, then she entered Westeros and suddenly started acting contradictory to her views. And last episode's outburst almost came outta nowhere.

oh i can agree it was poorly executed. they rushed it, but this is where she was always going to go. in the books as well as she starts to embrace fire and blood.