@@MrNegroni I like them both...I live in an area where tempreratures can reach almost 129 F / 48°, with brownish tones in summer and auttomn, so I have the otter-green one more biased for winter/spring season (emphasising cold protection and food) and the tan one more biased on water carrying / potabilizing... Yes, I have a Maxpedition Tiburon too, but I really feel more at home with the Jorneyman. I am old and must go light in a emergency or I might not get mobile enough...the Filsons are just the best compromise on volume, weight, materials, confort, durability and the "love factor". The only problem is just the cost, as here, with import taxes and all that stuff, the price is almost the double (500$+...each!!!)