FINAL FANTASY 16 vs FINAL FANTASY 15 SUMMONS/EIKONS COMPARISON (2016 vs 2023) 

It is a hell of a spectacle! but I can't get over how good the Titan fight is, probably because the story built up to the fight against Kupka is so good and personal.

You notice he's the only Square Enix character to use zettaflare right? The only other character besides Bahamut was Donald in Kingdom hearts so the only other character with enough fire power to nuke a planet out of existence is a duck from Disney 🤣

@@javieracevedo2362 I noticed that instantly, it made me bust out laughing when Joshua said he would burn the world mean Donald fucking Duck is canonically strong enough to torch a planet if he aimed Zettaflare down at the ground rather than the air 💀

All the eikon fights are so good. Except Odin he was a bit anti climatic for my taste.

@@LeonShallop fr lol how they gonna make the fight before him way more intense than the guy that's right before the final boss 😆 bahamut got mad love for his fight when they were making it Edit: idk about ALL of the eikon fights being better but yea a good majority of them were very good compared to odin's, that first encounter with him when he parted the sea hyped him up waaay too much

british naruto

The Bahamut fight makes me think of a Godzilla v Ghidorah. Hahaha

Ifrit went from your general monster orc to a whole flaming kaiju. Anyway, Rama and Shiva didn't join the squat tho

Final fantasy XVI has not better character rendering than Final fantasy VII, there is not any jump in characters, what gives better quality to character, is textures, there is not any changes in character textures resolution, and pathtracing lights, CGI it looks better because of pathtracing, so right now there is not any jump, the last of us 2 characters in ps4 are superior in quality than final fantasy XVI, the diference is the resolution not the tecnology that is almost the same this gen than the last one

​@@miguelm.a7462 Who honestly gives a shit? Game still looks and plays amazing

@@elisel2308 exactly!

@@miguelm.a7462 Nah XVI looks way better you just want to complain.

@@miguelm.a7462 I don't know what you're talking about. The resolution for the textures absolutely has increased, as has the character rendering. Can't tell if you are lying intentionally, or have never played the game.

Not to mention that Titan overall looks like the Armored Titan. Love 16

I remember reading an interview leading up to the release where it said that the team was inspired by different anime and that players might recognize references throughout the game. When I saw Ifrit's arm regenerate, it also reminded me of Attack on Titan.

They say they took inspiration from game of thrones. But I always felt like it was attack on titan. The 9 eikons being used for war.

I'd like to say you're overthinking it, since they said they took inspiration from GOT. But idk, anything is possible ig.

​@@gateauxq4604😂😂😂

The fact that Asura's Wrath isn't talked about enough fucks with me constantly. Like.......come on! Its the most anime game ever made thats NOT based off a preexisting property. It deserves more love. Yes the gameplay is mid but the story is just........chefs kiss.

@@SEXYCBOFym asuras wrath gameplay is mid

@@DefensiveQueen oh without a doubt. Shit needs to be completely rehauled. But I think if they did, it'd be incredible. Especially because the story is so damned good and deserves better and way more recognition.

It's like a Dragoon Knight on god mode

Thats the best scene ever

Yep lol it's amazing

The 14 Bahamut has more of a Godzilla shape to me. But I bring it up because it gets defeated the same way. In a clash of powers where the phoenix pierces right through them (Look up the Flames of Truth cinematic, by itself it doesn't explain but in the moment that the music changes the old man is using the aether around and the faith of the people for the realm to be reborn in the crisis to become the phoenix)

eden summon in ff8 still fantastic

@@muhamadmuqri5466ff14 did it better 🤣🤣

@@Chihiro-Kikuchi it's actually the same animation with better graphic

​@@muhamadmuqri5466FF8 in general holds up well IMO since it also focused on summons.

@@Chihiro-Kikuchi Big facts.

Not the best design

I think they imply he was one of the first to rebel against the gods

chill dude there's still the dlc its possible Leviathan is in it

2 more i think, leviathan & the forbidden one alexander

@@ArnadiDenanda I hope DLC can include some bits and pieces of history regarding some of the eikons to feel more immersed and connected with them. Maybe they can even incorporate different weapons inspired/based on different eikons. Kinda like "Ice sword" from Shiva that freezes enemies in front of you for 3secs when executing charged slash. Acquiring these types of weapons only possible when you complete the sidequest specific to an eikon etc

i wanna say we finna see in the dlc but considering how the story was handled, it either gonna be a dlc story unrelated to the cast we know and maybe they'll dive into the past of valasthea with the fallen n stuff, or perhaps divulge more about that other continent not show. but we know exists from the quests, some sort of far easter asian country that made the single edged swords, both cases probably gonna be an entirely new character playable maybe? idk, or it could just be an unlock dlc for leviathan's abilities but i prefer they let us play with leviathan's dominant in a past valasthea so we possibly get one more eikon battle

Not as majestic as Final Fantasy 16

XV soundtrack is a hit hit no misses there on that front Yoko Shimorura did an amazing job on XV's OST

​@@Force-Multiplier*EXACTLY.*

he's naked in xv lol

Same feeling

Bahumat🤣

We cannot call that thing ifrit from ff XV is just a "demonic king". But to be honest ff xvi Ifrit is a bit too toasted for me xD.

Ifrit in 15 was like a naked man wearing horns breakdancing whilie lit on fire.

​@@DaikyAdarkymgoing by early iterations the Ifrit from 15 was closer to what the devs who first implemented him in the series had envisioned him as. Ifrit only really started to look like a bulky monster from FF7.

15 did parkour…oh wait so did 16. 👀 I like the doggy face 16 Ifrit has though

Honestly 16's summon designs are my most favorite

Not even, ff16 bahamut is the worst design of all incarnations. What makes it worse they select him to be the first gay summon. Plus ff16 has the worst megaflare, it's just impulse renamed.

@@stevendavis6157 Megaflare doesn't have to be a beam and has been depicted many times to have multiple beams and maybe a big one to finish it. As far as the Gay thing, That's just his Dominant and no one really even cares but you apparently. Impulse is small little orbs thrown at the enemy, its not even close to this megaflare. As far as the worst desgin, thats just you my guy. 15 was the worst design to me by far, dude is straight up not even a dragon lmao.

@@stevendavis6157Nice bait

@@Reous Name one ff that megaflare was a scattered particle rays??? Gay pushing, still should have never been introduced. Especially as a figure known as bahamut, who is one of the top popular summons.

@@Reous Oh and design for ff16 bahamut incarnation. It's not me, it's several. Blades for arms, several lance thorns embedded on wings. No wonder some people taste are disgusting. Ff15 bahamut was a knightly(Warrior of light wannabe) avatar, that's why they selected that design.

Bahamut has always been depicted as an actual dragon or as a humaniform dragon, the one in 15, on the other hand, is roughly a guy in armor.

The one in XV looks like a dragoon rather than a dragon which is kinda cool

@@dantekhaos9768 XV's Bahamut is Noctis, it would come out in Noctis's canceled DLC, Bahamut is the true final boss of XV.

@@dragdos9125 Effectively making him the least Bahamut in the entire brand. Bahamut of Final Fantasy XV is not Noctis; his visage resembles Noctis and Somnus. That he is the real villain is clear in episode Ardyn

Bahamut 15 have a looks like a savior, but hes the villain

I don't see it honestly. It's quite the opposite for FF16 as that version looks more menacing and cooler.

​@@espada9000I like the outfit in 16 more but love the spear with the horse on 15 wish they kept that

they look the exact same lol

What about type 0 Bahamut?

ff16 Shiva looks more Royally adorable

​@@karlebykok9177ff16 shiva was useless though didn't do much, much like Jill herself

@@bungifish2227 but her cold snap is one of the best skills in the game lol, what a difference

@@kainakrit9311 yh I abused that lol quite broken tbh especially permafrost

​@@bungifish2227? It's because of Shiva that Clive had the power to beat Odin, it's because of her that they didn't get killed at the bottom of the sea,etc

16 hit all the classics though besides Odin-he hasn’t appeared in as many Final Fantasies as the others summons/eikons have. If 16 hadn’t featured those particular summons CBU3 would have been lit up hard for that.

Dlc

The team is aware of all the summons. They already designed and implemented in FF14. There's even Eikons that are redux version and one even does fusion. So, if they decided to do DLC, it can be literally anything.

I'm not sure it's possible to feature Knights of the Round more than XV did. ;) The Lucii might not have been Astrals, but they definitely represented the Knights of the Round summon.

It is a collab side quests with FF14 theme, its like a mini story where Garuda is the main boss and you can craft her weapons like how it is in FF14

Garuda fight and summon in 15 are from a special side quest crossover with FF14, you meet a Miqo'te and she asks you to stop the summoning of FF14's Garuda, as reward you get FF14's cotumes for all the characters based on the playable races of FF14.

I personally ain't mad but start from the beninging (misspelled on purpose) and you'll probably end up liking some of the past iterations of the summons/eikons (design wise) a bit better, emphasis on "some" cuz if you're a Garuda fan then you WILL NOT like what she used to be in the old games lol but in the case of the other ones alot of the times they did look alot better and their attacks were often times WAAAAAY more flashy then they have been in the newer games.

Me who has played from the first game’s release-me either Bros be mad that 16 isn’t some fictional mashup of the previous games that doesn’t actually exist.

@@javieracevedo2362 heard the old ff's are pure turn based.. nah fam im not patient enough for turn based no offense tho

@@dan4455 not saying to play them...

​@javieracevedo2362 not really the case for me, still like newer ff games more. past games hasnt really aged well except for story and music.

It was added after the XIV crossover. It looks pretty cool, just unfortunate that it was side content.

@@gateauxq4604 yeah I was surprised. I thought there was content I missed before lol

Yea you get the summon after fighting the FFXIV version of Garuda as a boss.

Ya I figured out it’s because she can be summoned once per day so it will spawn her always smh

Have you checked put FFXV Royal Edition? I heard it solves the problems of the normal one

No

Really false

Story wise and character growth?No. Everything else? Yes. I mean it’s made after 15 so it should be better.

@@addiowl8538 yes, graphic is clearly better.

@@MrCanhaha FF15 on pc with max setting look as good as 16 if not better. Some areas in 15 still look very impressive.

@@TheManaTree777 It’s quite hard to compare PC with console. If I compare only summon screen in the clip, 16 doing better. But I heard 5 got some update, maybe I try it after I finish 16. 😁

Not sure but I don’t think so.

Thats cus we never did fight bahamut, there was a fight in the multiplayer dlc that I think was the literal final boss but that aside no

that's because you never fight him on the main story of XV you only fight Bahamut in XV on the Brothers in Arms Multi-player Expansion (wich isn't available anymore since the game close its Online services a while ago)

Some appear almost everywhere and others only on set areas/fights, Shiva, ramuh and garuda appear a lot, others are too big so they are a little restricted, like titan and leviathan. Bahamut just get summoned 2 times, once against ifrit and another time in a cutscene if you have the royal edition update, and the last one is carbuncle appearing on easy mode if you played the platinum demo. Ramuh appear more than others because his attack can get everywhere basically, with his staff piercing through underground/indoor areas, the longer a fight goes the bigger the chance to get him to appear(very easy to happen). Garuda is a collab side quest summon that you unlock, after you get her she appears a lot, I think she works like ramuh but only outside(easy to happen). Titan appear in very wide outdoor areas and is more likely to appear if your allies are downed(a little complicated). Leviathan appears in very wide outdoor areas next to large bodies of water and is more likely to appear if noctis is in danger, hardest one to get since you always get healed and not many places fit the description, luckily the final area lets you summon her more easily(hard af outside of final area). Shiva appears in indoor and outdoor areas and she's more likely to appear if you're in danger, the fight is taking long and/or your allies are downed(kinda common) Carbuncle only gets unlocked if you played the platinum demo and he only appears on easy mode, idk how easy it is to summon, since I played the demo on a friend's console and Square Enix removed the demo for some stupid reason 1 year later.

15 is terrible and it aged poorly nothing of what you said is close to true

@@rushpatriot2866lmao man that’s far from how I feel I actually was kinda let down by 16 so it took me back to 15 and I was blown away how fucking good it was

I definitely prefer 15 Ramuh's design, especially the ixion staff, as a nod to 10. Ff15 Ramuh was also the most faithful in terms of helping the party.

I’d say ramuh yeah I like the beard more but shiva doesn’t have the look of a shiva it looks kind of like a pixie in 15 also the multiple shivas make her look even smaller and more pixie like something more acute to magus sisters also she looks more skimpy than majestic but of course all this is subjective

I don’t think any design in 15 look as good as they do in 16. Which is fine, 16 is a summon focused game. And it knocks all other summons in the series completely out

@@rebirthofgodrics907that’s shiva after she died or w/e so I guess she’s weaker. Her real body is so big you can see it on the niflheim map. Her real height is like 200 ft tall.

Hard disagree on Shiva, 16 looks way better

Hey if Cid wants to be Gandalf he can be Gandalf.

I'd also compare it to Alexander or even a Dragoon Knight.

The only thing done better in 15 was garudas design I think that design is really nice other than that 16 has the best design when I first started playing it was hard for me to choose a favorite ekion they're all so cool bahumat and odin are probably my favorite now

@@rushpatriot2866 Odin is the coolest by far for me. Incredibly epic, all of them are extremely cool, they knocked them out of the park

Same. 16 Shiva is too "adorable" for me lol

Leviathan Alexander :/

You fight all of them plus more in FF14. The design concept is already there with the team. I have a strong feeling they'll add King Moggle Mog if they do DLC for FF16.

Imo XVI Odin was the best one definitely better than XVI Bahamut wich was horrible

That's exactly what I was thinking when I first saw this fight. Glad someone else see it the same way as me.

Same

Im ok with another mmo but they should wait until FF19 or something cause 14 is still rocking it

The next one will be crazy. As the PS5 pro or PS6 will be out by time they actually develop it.

What? No it won't?