Final Fantasy 7’s Bold Risk 

It’s so sad

Nooooooooooo..... I felt enough pain replaying crisis core in reunion few days ago the wound is still fresh up till this day and this words makes it even deeper 😭

@kuyswe I'd say she did through cloud even if it wasn't really zack she knew even in the og game that cloud was imitating him so in a roundabout way she got her wish

@Aaron Roberto after Crisis Core? She’s absolutely right! Hell, she even ends up with Zack at the end of Advent Children!

​@Aaron Roberto oh man, after Crisis Core, I got to agree with that wife. There's a chemistry here that cloud and aerith just don't have. I love Aerith to death as a character, but not enough to marry her through cloud and ship them together in the process.

I mean, given the similar chemistry between Cloud and Aerith, and also Aerith and Tifa, I'm going to have to go with the polyamory solution. Cloud x Zack x Aerith x Tifa = Everyone Wins

Zack is the franchises best and likely most well liked character

Zack Will join the party and all will survive by the third game, we know they can die in one timeline and be alive in another

I think that’s also what I love about crisis core the most. Zack really helps Aerith open up and in turn it has a great affect on cloud. The connection between those 3 is wild

Not gonna lie, you had me in the first 99.9%

To be fair that’s the whole point in the original FFVII. It’s a tragic love triangle. It was supposed to be open. Zack X Aerith became a thing because of the Compilation.

@@ironrex6979 As I recall Aerith x Cloud was never a thing, they were just good friends. Cloud and Barret tho. (jk)

@@zereimu That was in The Compilation. In the original game it was open because it was a game. It was left to the players choice and it helped the story since it was supposed to be a tragic love triangle.

Me? Gongaga, You?

We. Are. GONGAGA.

LMFAO

yessir and based Kirigiri pfp

Done-and-gonegaga

Seems like it’s moving fast! They are confident in that

I wish they were still working on part one this whole time and released it this January instead of what we got.

@@gnarcky6ix6 hell nah I'm impatient and I loved ff7 remake

@@kamii_999 I'm impatient too, but great things come with time. Think about how much better it would be right now. Could have been structured so much better. I don't know how the rest of the game will ever hold up to the original. I doubt we'll even get open world at all. Just more hallways and corridors.

@@gnarcky6ix6 I also didn't want to give them more time to ruin it more. I was happy with the game and I even just got done with the platinum for crisis core reunion. Now I'm just happily awaiting the release of FF7 rebirth while hoping for a remaster of FFXIII which is my top 2 FF game just below FF7. I'm just glad we are getting games at all.

Because Cloud x Aerith started in OG VII, where Zack x Aerith was basically non-existent, existing only in a very soft implication.

@RuneKatashima except in OGVII the relationship between Zack and Aerith was so close that after 5 years, Aerith was still so hung up on Zack that meeting his parents caused an emotional response. Plus, Zack knew she'd take Cloud and him in once they got back to Midgar. They were closer than Aerith led on, and the things she liked about Cloud were the parts he stole from Zack. Aerith saw right through his bs, too, and tells Cloud as much on their Gold Saucer date.

@Regina George And here's me who seem's to remember that Ifelna buys Aerith her pink ribbon in remake, and she wears it when she was a child. Yes Zack tells Aerith to wear pink in Crisis Core, anyone can see how stupid the dialogue is in Crisis Core, with copied and pasted cutscenes from og, and they never updated it in Crisis Core Reunion. 😀

@@KJames2345 Dude, that's not the truth. I just finished the game. Aerith didnt wear any ribbon when he and Zack met. Zack is the one that buys it for her. Sure, Aerith has a ribbon that Ifalna gave her but it's been years since she was a kid, any cloth can break. It's probably why Aerith chose the same pink ribbon when Zack asked her what she wanted to buy for her.

@@KJames2345 And it isnt stupid, it shows why Aerith clings to Cloud at the remake. It reminds her of the events she had with Zack. I played FF7 Remake first and rooted for Cloud and Aerith but after playing Crisis Core Reunion, it just makes more sense and adds more context to Aerith's character and why she acts that way. And I dont know about you, man, but I would never date my best friend's girl, especially if he died to protect me. It's just messed up

@Rob305 He was but number one Clouds memories were completely swiped he had no memories of Zack because of the Mako and the trauma, that doesn't change the fact that Zack WAS even in the OG an important part of Clouds story, as well as Aerith's. That's why Crisis Core being the sequel fleshes out the story and shows us Zacks back story and what his importance was in the Final Fantasy story. Just because Crisis Core came out after the OG doesn't mean he wasn't important to the story because he was even in OG. You just get more depth of his story with Crisis Core.

@Rob305 Im sorry, man. Im gonna have to disagree. I just finished the game and now I understand why the devs love Zack Fair so much too. In fact, I like Zack more than Cloud now but even so, I still like these too characters but Zack is just who I prefer now

cloud is for tifa zack is for aerith

"Don't fall in love with me" because she knows she's dying? Is that too obvious an interpretation?

I’m leaning towards this line of thinking as well. Aerith also seems to be aware that Cloud is harboring secret feelings for Tifa, the way he got so defensive when she asked about the flower and who he gave it to, and then we get that scene where she clearly sees it in a vase behind the bar counter where Tifa worked. She saw right through him since the beginning lol. I love that she tried to tell Tifa about her first love Zack as well in the new novel. I wonder how Zack and Aerith will meet again. It’s gonna be crazy emotional 😭

The "Don't fall in love with me" is followed by "Even if you think you love me now, it's not real", she is clearly referring to the fact that his feelings for her are one of the things Zack imprinted on him during the trip to Midgar. I really struggle to understand why people think Aerith said that because she knew she died in the OG or give it more esoteric meanings, FF7R's writting isn't subtle at all...

I think Aerith was always intended to be seen as a red-herring, even in the OG I felt that her death, the reveal of Tifas importance after her death, and the reveal that Cloud was acting as ex made that pretty clear. Especially on re-plays, but yeah, in the time since SE has really doubled down on it.

People are reactive regarding Zack because he *wasn't* that important in the original game, considering he's simply part of Cloud's trauma and delusion. They're not denying anything, they're using the original game as leverage and that's perfectly fine. No one is forced to accept Crisis Core. Some people like it, some people don't. Using Zack in VIIR will obviously annoy the latter, it won't magically validate Zack as a character. If anything, it will make the game worse for them. That's why Zack is a "risk". The canonical imperative here is pretty clear. The revival of Crisis Core (as Reunion) might be pivotal to VIIR2 (Rebirth), but it certainly doesn't invalidate people's opinions about Zack and the OG VII. They can't retroactively make Zack important, but they can do just that in Rebirth through Reunion.

@@kimlee6643 Cloud’s trauma and delusions are a HUGE part of the original game… He based his fake persona on this guy, so how does that make him “not that important”?

@@peko2292 You answered your own question? Cloud based his SOLDIER persona on the little piece of Zack's backstory that mattered to him; he didn't even emulate the actual person at all, only his own idea of status. Everything else is drawn as a parallel to Cloud's own experience. CC uses the backdrop of Cloud's experience to then infuse Zack's character to then feed it back to Cloud. Why do so many people pretend Zack was written first and the devs simply hid him from people until CC? It's amazing I'm actually explaining this.

@@kimlee6643 The guy literally was shown to be Cloud’s friend who risked his life to save him in the original? I’m still wondering how does that not make him important to the story?

@@peko2292 What do you mean by "important"? He's a real part of Cloud's narrative momentum at the crux of the formation of his trauma into active (rather than passive) form. He reveals Cloud was no real veteran, no SOLDIER, nothing but a weakling who needed a literal sacrifice from another man to allow his story to occur. He is also, despite this, able to become a hero despite his catastrophic failures. That's a massive part of what OG VII entails. He's nowhere near as important as Cloud, because Cloud is the center from which the narrative emanates. Zack was written by folding Cloud's experience on itself, this is what makes CC work.

Yes a guy who becomes a god who defeats a divine being such as Minerva, but can't do jackst against MP troopers, yes a tragic character indeed, glad they're changing that in remake, and Cloud is Zacks living legacy pile of horse st aswell.

@@KJames2345 He was weakend that's why he couldnt win, not a plot continuity problem

@@KJames2345 i thought the same too but was operating off of hazy thoughts. after replaying it i realized how strong he was. bro has been on the run for almost a year probably without proper food and water, and on top of that he had to be cloud's 24/7 caretaker. he fought hundreds of nonstop troops and it just unfortunately weekend him so much in the end. sadly it only took beating 3 more elite soldiers but it was too late.

The comments about the Sky are so nice to hear again. They really followed through on such small details in Remake. Was beautiful

Yeah, aerith had personality before. Now shes just zacks girlfriend. Gosh, crisis core is a disgrace.

@@husky7281 ..True. I remember enjoying crisis core as a kid when it came out. But in retrospect I dislike its legacy and how much it tried to attribute so much of Aerith's character to Zack and his influence on her.

​@@lw9515This is what I hate too...and why Tifa can get frustrating to me in OG as well... It gets too love interesty and weakens the female characters. Then again, I understand it is meant for guys anyways...

Bring them on

"No joke" 😭 dude y'all just bully us all the time and tell us how non existing our ship is. I have nothing against Tifa x Cloud and still value this ship as well! :(

Lmao same goes to Ur "some cloti"

@@erzdev5669"some" cloti are way more no joke, just look at old video of ff7 yearsssss ago, those "some" cloti are the bully one, excuse meh always playing victim

Thank you so much! loved doing it

Thank you so much for watching it! I hope you have a great rest of your playthrough :)

@@Repaduski Thank you ❤ I was already getting teary-eyed leaving Aerith to go to Nibelheim haha

Thank you so much!

Zack x Aerith and Cloud x Tifa, will go best together 👌

I never really liked Aerith x Cloud, I just never saw it, even in OG I felt "....but that wasn't the point of their friendship", but playing the original CC really cemented for me what Cloud and Aeriths role in each others stories is. Anything other than Cloud x Tifa and Zack x Aerith just feels bizarre to me these days.

There’s nothing stupid about it that was the point of FFVII. It was a tragic love triangle. It’s the Compilation that cements Zack X Aerith but the original game is open game. That’s why the original > everything in the Compilation.

@Naija Hunt CC is 100 percent canon lol, it was written by the same writers as the og 7. Keep up with the cap lol

Nothing to feel stupid about. Cloud x Aerith was a completely normal ship before Crisis Core was released.

Its so fun to hear the opinions of people new to this game who came from 7 Remake. They really do change your mind

That'd be ideal

its the way to go 🥰🥰

@naijahunt2338 Someone's salty their ship never sailed and will never sail xD Not only is Crisis Core cannon, it's so important to the story it got a remake to make sure people had access to it and it's story between parts of FF7 remake

@naijahunt2338 CC has never been retcon in the ZxA relationship. Zack have always been a major part of her interest in Cloud. CxA, on the other hand, has never existed. Since Cloud always loved Tifa, and was loyal. Even with the greatest development of Cloud x Aerith's relationship, you don't get a good reaction from him. At the same time, the game perfectly shows that all the way through his character development, it was his feelings for Tifa. CC only tried to give Aerith a moment that she could be happy and loved, which the original didn't show, although it didn't potentially close that development. So CxT and ZxA were always canon ships, it's just that in the original ZxA, it didn't have that good development. But CC fixed that.

Also Zack is kinda dead, so Aerith was free game again. That at least made sense for me, i don't think most of the fandom would agree tho

He is dead , so is Aerith. Perfect for the other

@@reginageorge3399 3 months?! she had known Cloud for about 2 or 3 weeks in total. The whole FF7 plot lasts 42 days if I'm not confused, but no more than 49.

He is in Birth by Sleep!

@@Repaduski yep that’s right!

Isn't it awesome when you completely change your mind about a character? With the of FF7 alone, Zack it pretty unremarkable but post CC, he became one of the most lovable character ever!

I think he will end up gone again. But this time maybe we aerith by his side

Right! I mean, Advent Children showed us that they do find their happy ending and see each other again, but it is interesting to see if perhaps they saw each other again while they were both still alive.

That means so much! thank you for seeing it through. I love making deeper videos like this but am always unsure if there is an audience for them

Yea zack had it first

"it seemed obvious it was a Cloud and Aerith thing." I will never understand this position, it just always makes me think "man, were we playing the same game?!". I'd love to just sit with someone who experienced the story like this, and actually play the games, watch the movies, while narrating what we're thinking, because I have the feeling we'd be narrating two entirely different stories XD

To be fair it was open in the original FFVII since it’s supposed to be a tragic love triangle. The Compilation is what cements Zack X Aerith. There is no reason for you to feel bad. It’s pretty much new.

​@@DutchDread I hear what you're saying! And I don't believe either stance is right or wrong, between Aerith, Zack, Cloud & Tifa there seems to be a whole party of people on each different ship. I guess that's the brilliance of the way the story is being told, the story unfolds in a way that allows the viewer or participant to fill in the gaps with their imagination, it doesn't force us into its narrative, instead, it gives us room to breathe and to read into moments that could go either way. I guess with our own bias. I don't know whether the creators did this intentionally, but I also don't think its a coincidence!

Thank you so much for just watching it. i got sentimental on this one

The old VA was pretty bad and I'm glad it got chucked. Reunion is superior to the PSP game in every way.

@@Heymrk You needed a mental asylum more than the remake. Misplaced priorities.

This has always amused me. Tifa is Cloud's main love, and she is, for Cloud, the main point of his development as a character. Most of his actions since his youth are clearly related to her, and even the potential move towards Aerith is a vectorless move towards "hero for a girl" (for Tifa), which is forgotten because of his change of persona. So Cloud has always been in love with her, and the game shows this quite well. Those who think that CxA would have had a chance after Cloud reclaimed his identity clearly don't understand the dynamics of their development.

@@rnkkhv Seriously, it's so funny to see some discussions when SHE is the reason why Cloud won't ever be with any other woman and there's simply no way around that lol

@@tinatinarmainteresebs9255 Yes, and many people try to argue as if it is not clear from the game that most of his life revolves around the desire to be with her. And as the conversation about ZxA begins, arguments begin, as if Cloud's opinion is not important, and only Aerith's desire to be with someone of these two is important. lol, no. First of all, CxT exists because Tifa is the most important person to him, not because Aerith died

Yeah destiny loves irony

It's a running gag, everyone falls through Aerith's roof. It happens in Before crisis too 😅

He got namecalled in the Remake, I thought we were gonna see him, in all his broness.

@@TheBayzent in all the people or characters I interacted his one of the best dude to talk too. His more friend to Zack a true comrade keeps tabs to you by phone

Hes the real homie

Yeah I don’t think they will survive the end game. But I think zack and aerith will be monumentally important going forward, and yeah it’s nice to hear. Crisis core is a very comfortable game.

They will die to bring us Tears again! 😢😢😢

Aerith's death is a necessity. I think the Devs will give us a false hope scenario where they will make us think we can change Aerith's fate but ultimately she will die. Zack will probably die at the end of the game..... probably...... I hope.

I think Zack is a ghost who hasn't rejoined the Lifestream in this new continuity.

@@mrshadow7738 No it isn't, she died because she left Cloud's party and went to the Forgotten City on her own, Jenova took a detour through the Forgotten City to complete her reunion with Sephiroth, and saw Aerith, and killed her in cold blood. If she never left the party she would of survived, maybe as far as the Whirlwind Maze, e.g Northern Crater, possibly she would of completed the game as there was a standing stone for Aerith character to stand on, while facing Bizarro Sephiroth. I say she will return to the lifestream willingly at the end of part 3, and nobody is changing my mind, if she reunites with Zack, that is a different matter regarding the trilogy. Whatever happens we will after wait.

This is true!

Yes. It was smoke because they couldn't show blood spilling or else they'd push the T rating.

No it wasn't. When I noticed it in Reunion I first played it off as a rather cheap way to keep wounds in line with the age rating but it does seem quite the coincidence. I could be a post hoc explanation for how Cloud survived the incident in the first place - saved by the Whispers as it wasn't "his time" - as logically the stab should have been fatal seeing as Cloud at this point is just a normal human being with no experiments performed on him.

Always gets me

I can’t even begin to think about how crazy Rebirth can be for some moments since it’s next gen only

It’s probably going to be different and if the rumors are true multiverse shenanigans

Same here! Even though I was a CxA shipper before. Zack is just a great man. Just finished Crisis Core Reunion and I love it! I cant wait to see Zack reunite with Aerith!

@@aerithlover That’s your problem not mine. I’m stating development facts I’m not giving opinions on shippings.

@Regina George That’s all made up by the compilation and does not come from the original game. Stop being in denial and lying.

@Regina George The devs aren’t lying though you are. They’ve expressed that in the original game there is no canon shipping. The canon shipping exists in the compilation. As I said stop being in denial kid.

@@ironrex6979 Bro, enough. Youre the one that cant swallow the truth. Even I as a clerith shipper recognize what the developers are trying to convey. Zack is still very important to Aerith and she's still chasing his shadow. Enough, bro. You cant tell people that theyre lying when youre the one that does that.

@@aerithlover You know nothing about the game and are just a troll with a pathetic user name. Leave. Stop projecting your own issues on to others like your name sake.

@@ironrex6979 Uh I do 🙄 but unlike you, I dont throw tantrums harassing other people about the things that disagree with you. A grown man throwing tantrums on the youtube comments yikes😖

PSP game holds up alright. but the gameplay is quite the adjustment

@@Repaduski but it is definitely similar in some aspects.

I agree with ya😉

Tidus is mad at you

@@Repaduski I’m sorry but zanarkand will have his turn

Cry less

@@lostforever773 not crying, it's observation with many fans, so making its to make game experience better, just be a good boy and let the people who care try and do something about it.

@@driftingmemories5737 yes crying I'm not a boy Women game Probably have been gaming longer than you, kid

@@lostforever773 that's even worse I could let you off if this was your first game and hearing Zack for the first time but your an old person who might have played FF7 OG and appreciate the depth of it. Why OG Zack VM had more nuisance compared to this almost kid like dorky expression. But again if your happy with a much more childer like acting then you got what you want at least. Let the rest of us be reintroduced to proper nostalgia.

@@driftingmemories5737 learn English, kid What original do you mean?

Same

If you played it without playing the OG you definitely received the heaviest spoilers imaginable, you don't even know yet, what mystery of what happened in Nibleheim is basically the main plotarc of the rest of the game. Told people not to play CC if you haven't played the OG, but people wouldn't listen :(

I think it's more apt to say that Cloud treated being Aerith's bodyguard as a role one that he created for himself as Tifa's protector. But because Tifa was strong and didn't need a bodyguard he used Aerith as a replacement. Cloud judging by the og text wasn't attracted to Aerith. With Aerith according to the novels she was watching as Cloud and Tifa put his mind back together and when Cloud admitted that Tifa was he one he loved all along, as well as a big reason for his persona. Knowing that she likely realized that he was superimposing Tifa onto her. That's why she tells him that his feelings for her are fake.

Cloud's feelings are his own. They're not influenced by Zack or anything.

@@BunnyCakes I never said they were, I said that Cloud canonically cares about Aerith but doesn't love her.

@Bright Light oh no no I agree with you! lol I was just commenting in general on what White Wolf said. Sorry for the confusion ^^

You’re exactly right. In the remake there were NO SIGNS of Cloud ever liking Aerith. Cloud has always liked Tifa. He even flirted with her several times. Aerith acknowledged that Cloud has feelings for Tifa.

You play with Tifa for maybe an hour, tops. Unless you purposely don't do certain things. I usually do Wutai with her as part leader. It's hilarious.

@@Heymrk dude. It's not an hour. I just replayed the game; like many I know it like the back of my hand. (Like several others do as well.) Plus considering how they bloated the midgar section of the games length into an entire game in 7r, it stands to reason by extrapolation that they would make a character switching moment, especially one with such significance to the story last hours and hours. But as to the og, I'm not being one of those dudes, but replay it again. It shocked me too I thought it was shorter.

So here is a dark, what if scenario. What if Cloud has to die because of his connection to Sephiroth? It’s been stated that Seph can keep coming back as long as Cloud lives because of the Jenova cells and his memories. This means that Cloud is stuck in a loop of fighting Seph whenever Seph manages to pop up again. Eventually Seph will win, I mean Cloud will grow old. So in order to break their connection, Cloud has to die. What if Cloud looses control like in the OG. But this time Zack has met up with the group, and we get some good moments between everyone before Cloud looses control. Then either a guilt ridden Cloud forces him too, or Cloud is fully taken over by Sephiroth. Either way, Zack is forced to kill Cloud. I highly doubt SE would go that route, I mean killing Cloud would be huge and shatter players. Especially if Zack, who originally gave his life to save Cloud is the one who is forced to kill Cloud in a similar way to how Zack had to kill Angeal. But, at the same time, Sephiroth has already been revealed in remake. And everyone knows Aerith fate. So if they want to go bigger and more soul shattering, this would be a way to do it. I hope, whatever SE does do, they answer how the connection between Cloud and Sephiroth is going to be broken. Because Clouds been through enough and deserves to find happiness. And I hope they don’t do my boy Zack dirty. As heartbreaking as his end was, it was a good, fitting end for his character.

@@genevieveachilles4662 Zacks ghost (cloud) vs the the ghost of sephiroth was a major theme of 7, until, imo, the two warriors the game was based on (a tale of a broadsword samurai and a long sword samurai) repeated it's self once more. (Actualized cloud vs sephiroth at the very end.) This is when the game was designed to adhere to themes. I say this to tell you, *They're going to f it up.* I'll tell you why. Nothing unexpected is likely going to happen here. Actually, that's not true, nothing with any weight will most likely happen here, but Nomura will most likely weigh one side of the scale down with "weird shit" to make it seem creative. Japan plans their market strategies and sales around characters. Popularity polls are given, (yes I know, but this is true, look it up) and toys and advertisements align with these. Zack has topped the FF character polls for a long time. Aeris is internationally beloved. Cloud is the face of quite possibly the biggest ip square has ever made. There is no way any of these characters will die, and if they do, it will be a trade with lesser impact, but one that has gotten character development to trick the player into thinking it's a balanced out loss. Avalanche members, a party member like Barret, Yuffie, or Red 13, etc. (Yes major characters, but not as integral to the plot when it comes to interacting with the mechanisms that drive it forward for more than Midgar or shortly after.) The hints will be there. Any new party members in 7r2? Is Jessie riding up on a motorcycle saying she's joining your journey? She Gon die. There's no way SE isn't ending this with TWO MAIN CHARACTERS VS TWO BIG BADDIES. ("Imagine the merch sales! Imagine the action!' that's what they're saying in the panning stages. Unfortunately many FF fans don't give a shit about these opinions, and they align with disgusting anime companies like Funimation. Plus, Nomura loves to do this. My God, look at the mess that is kingdom hearts. Starting from the second entry you had riku vs sora vs multiple people, in 3, it was like what, 7 vs 7 or some shit?) I'd love to see some risks being taken like the ones we have speculated on, even though people will come and call it fan fiction, it will probably be better than what actually happens. It would be great if sephiroth actually got closer to winning this time, or had a more direct influence. Hell, if there's two of him, have him get to it. Let's see a real sephiroth and not a jenova clone attack a city and Zack have to go counter him anywhere he goes (the only one string enough to fight sephiroth at this point.) I feel like this is another star wars situation, the force awakens was beloved or at least tolerated until it's sequels. We'll see.

Why wouldn't they, it's just one guys interpretation on the so called love triangle. Which was invented by non FFVII fans, who played the game for certain characters, or the first time when they were introduced to FFVII Crisis Core, I call them the fake fans, who just wanna ship their favourite characters.

@Regina George So petty, literally your best come back is reciting the same ragtag shit comment from another comment thread, labelling me a fake fan who never played anything FFVII related. I have everything released regarding the FFVII franchise, I brought original FFVII September 1997 on the actual release date, Dirge of Cerberus PS2, Advent Children and Advent Children Complete and the 4K version, I spend £70 on Crisis Core Reunion, have both Remake versions from PS5 and PS4, I have the books On a way to a Smile, and The Kids are alright a Turkside story, the Ultimanias, and pre ordered the book about Tifa and Aerith, I have the poster picture collection, that was released along with the game in 2020, I collect the figure's that get relaeased and other related content and memorabilia. I am possibly one of there biggest fans of the franchise, who studied the lore for the past 25 years just because I don't give a damn about the stupid shipping wars like the fake fans do, created by Nomura and his shit compilation, means I ain't any fake fan.

Some still dont know

@@Repaduski I imagine that's it🤷I never understood

@Rob305 it is so your reasearch

@Rob305 could you elaborate on why crisis core is not canon?

@Rob305 Delusion or misinformation?

@@reginageorge3399 Could say the same about you Zack fanboys self-inserting as Zack. Seeing as you Zerith stans are treating Aerith like she is Zack's personal property, by denying she moved on to Cloud after accepting Zack's been long gone.

@@zerofudou5689 What's you and your lots problem? No one is self-inserting themselves as Zack wtf. I ship Cloud and Aerith too but it doesnt take a stupid and blind person to see that she still misses Zack. Sure Cloud is this and that but Zack is an amazing character and the people that deny that are you and the other people that are salty about getting in the way of a ship where it disregards what's written

How does Cloud fall in love with Aerith, and becomes consumed in jealousy?

They do the love triangle thing for a reason. Kind of makes sense there are differing opinions

Spell her name correctly then

@Rob305 did you fuck up her name on purpose or is this irony just that funny?

@Rob305 Now theres a gay romance with cloud with a dude named Eric? Dam i trully am not up to speed. My bad dude.

I think you may be biased Zac ;)

@@Repaduski No the same name is a coincidence…. Lol …everyone doesn’t have to agree with me but it’s a common opinion.👍😀

@@zacatkinson3926 I’m just messing around man. He’s an amazing character lol

@@Repaduski I knew you were... "Never in doubt"

I thought delivery was mostly fine. You also have to keep in mind they had to mimic the old actors delivery to match the animation of the psp game which wasn’t changed for this. Remake and rebirth were great. Especially Zack at the end of Yuffie DLC

@@Repaduski either way, I’m complimenting you dude for your analysis lol I watched all those scenes during my gameplay and didn’t get any of that until you explained it all here, that’s just the impression I got. You made it sound like some literary masterpiece writing and that’s not what I saw 😂 Kudos again to you

@@TrvisXXIII lol it’s definitely not masterfully written but I for sure find the relationship to be very well executed haha. Thanks so much!

Yeah me too lol

Considering he's still alive(?) that's the least they could give us now, right 🥺

@@livelyoh8816 I think he's a ghost who has refused to travel to the Lifestream.

In that it would be cool? Or?

@@Repaduski in that how can someone be a gamer and not play ff7, xenogears, or earthbound

@@lierx.agerate8230 people have wildly different tastes

@kuyswe you're missing out on the 2 greatest games of all time

U forgot Cloud is in love with Tifa not Aerith, so Zack will save Aerith in part 2 and it wil be happy ending.

Zack is more relatable to me because for some people all we have is hope and dreams for the future.

Cloud doesn’t love Aerith and Aerith is chasing traces of Zack she sees in Cloud. Cloud loves Tifa and Tifa loves Cloud. It’s been this way since 1997.

@@sakuracardcaptor4709 I see u don;t even play the game. Squerenix even years ago official confirmed he in love with her.

@Kog'Maws Tv Show doesn't really matter what they confirmed lol because when you play the game it's abundantly clear that cloud has feelings for Tifa.

Funny because Clerith shippers existed before Zerith shippers, If anything Zerith shippers are newer to FF7 fandom than people who ship Cloud and Aerith.

@@zerofudou5689 Exactly. Lol.

@@reginageorge3399 Did I say he wasn't mentioned? No. I said Clerith shippers existed before Crisis Core made Zerith shippers a thing. No one shipped Zack with Aerith during OGFF7 days. Its not gaslighting, it's an absolute fact.

@@zerofudou5689 So what if Clerith first? I was a clerith fan but regardless, doesnt Aerith die in the OG? And she reunites with Zack after that. It doesnt matter which shipper came first or whatnot, but someone dying, that makes a pairing already impossible and to attack other people that prefer Aerith and Zack is just vile

@@aerithlover Hey. I didn't start attack fans for liking a pairing. The original commentor did so first by accusing anyone who shipped Cloud and Aerith of only playing the FF7 remake, as if Zack and Aerith were strong ship before Crisis Core.

Aerith gained a lot of confidence from zack! You have to understand the aerith in crisis core is 4-5 years younger. Hardly has a grasp on the reality of her situation. Zack helped guide her to the character you love in remake. Maybe that helps

@@Repaduski I guess…. But honestly, I just don’t think they were that great together. It seemed rushed, and I never felt that spark! Playing Remake for the first time I legit felt a connection towards Aerith…..I felt it THROUGH Cloud. I don’t even feel like Zach and Aerith really even saw each other that much, and every time they did Aerith was asking Zach to do something. I don’t know…..it just felt weird and off in my opinion. I feel like (from what I’ve seen so far) Cloud and Aerith are way better together.

@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 Gonna be honest, this is usually the position advocated by people who don't understand the story or characters. Especially trying to ship Zack off with Cisnei in an attempt to get him out of the way for Cloud and Aerith is a huge red flag that someone isn't being honest.

@@DutchDread I’m guessing you don’t remember, but we’ve had this conversation a handful of times already. I’ve seen you commenting about Cloti more times than I can count. You’re obviously WAY too biased about this topic. I understand the story and characters just fine. And every time I’ve given evidence about Cloud and Aerith vs Cloud and Tifa from Remake you would never message back. And that’s just my honest opinion. I didn’t feel or understand Zach and Aerith’s “relationship” at all. I didn’t even like how they portrayed Aerith in this. I can see why now a lot of fans that played the original were upset by her portrayal in CC and AC.

@@DutchDread I picked up on literally ZERO chemistry between these two. Just my opinion, that’s how I see it, and evidently I’m not the only one either. Even Hamaguchi has said the story seems to be pushing Cloud and Aerith together. And he’s now the head director for Rebirth. I don’t care who ends up together. As long as the character interactions in Rebirth are just as good as Remake’s. Like I’ve said, I’ve never played the original game, but going into playing Remake for the first time with no preconceived notions, expectations, or biases…….Cloud and Aerith only seem to be the only more “romantic” relationships from Remake. Cloud and Tifa had little moments in the beginning, but once Aerith got on the scene Cloud finally started opening up, and smiled more times with her than anybody, and Aerith is literally the only character in Remake that got Cloud to laugh throughout the entire game.

Im not sure I know of a single game you truly care about lol. Im also still unsure what you look for in games week after week haha. Feel free to lay it out there

@@Repaduski You don't have to find me any games lol. Gameplay is the most important thing to me. If the game doesn't play well I don't want it. Engaging characters are important to. I never cared about saving the world because it's boring lol. I do care about a lot of games and can be open minded to try them. The most mainstream game I play are the Tales games. Everything else seems to not get talked about a lot. Indie games and hidden gems have always been more interesting to me more than popular AAA.

@Regina George LMBO if ya say so.

@@KJames2345 It's obvious that you deny Zack's importance. You cant call people fake fans of something just because your point of view is different.

@@aerithlover He's so Important enough to take Cloud's place, you would think, great marketing ploy by the developers. "Cloud your my living legacy bullshit bruh!" "But I'm the main protagonist Zack" "Fuuuck that ain't gonna work"

@@KJames2345 Didnt you also accuse me as someone posing as Final Fantasy Peasants or Pez? 😂 That was funny!!!!! Lol Have a good day ~

@@aerith176 You still need this 🍼.