Text guide: / odin_mechanic_facts_th... A quick tutorial on how Odin's unique mechanics works, how to pressure Odin and how to avoid Zantetsuken. Hope it helps.
got some tips for you if u have the time, watch optinoobs video for the build and strategy for the first 9 battles. as for odin watch solestro's video talking about odin and then play full might odin until u can beat him and or know his moves
What i did is training solo on full might with Cloud only. It helped me a lot getting to know which skills i can block and which one is better to just evade. On general tip for Odin fight, you have to deal a lot of damage on a small time for him not to be bored and summon the "warning" and after the death move. Practice a lot and you will get the hang of it 😊
@@steveozone4910 for my build reraise was not needed. Of course, if you are afraid of losing it at the last round, you can equip it. But, i do not recommend due to 2 reasons: 1 - its expensive (36 MP). 2 - Arise costs 22 MP and ressurect you with full HP whil3 reraise you get like 25%, making it easy for Odin kill you again on 1 or 2 hits. If you pratice enough, not getting hit by Odin and damaging him, Reraise wont be needed
SUPERB explanation... I failed this fight so many times, even after watching a couple of guides. Today, I watched this video and beat him on the first try afterward. This is the best, most thorough and most effective guide on Odin I've seen! I applaud you sir.
ironically I did beat the king my first attempt as I did with some of the other summon battles, however it seemed to be luck when I failed many times after
Dropping you a like because this is the most comprehensive Odin guide I have seen, and people who might struggle with fighting him need to see this. Most of the info online about this is not helpful. I learned by trial and error to go all in on damaging him in a short amount of time to get him to use Sleipnir's Furor, and that Yuffie's shooting star at range will make Reprisal whiff
Finally someone who explains what's actually happening when I get slapped around! I finally cheesed him with Yuffie, so me and Odin are friends now. But it's nice to know what the heck was going on. 😅
Use cloud, yuffie, and tifa. Literally just bum rush him. Once one character does and ability switch to the next and use another ability. Rinse and repeat. Doing this gives him no time to breathe.
Odin was the toughest summon for me.. I just figured it out myself in the end and spammed debuffs, he went down eventually. I like a good challenge tho :P
A challenge is an enemy that keeps killing you. Not one where you have to guess why he's not dead when he's dead. That's just retarded... Glad I haven't gotten to try this battle yet. Looks like another battle designed terribly... So disappointing....
He was only difficult because his mechanic is unique with the insta-kill ability. As a simple fight he would not be any different. At least it is a skill check rather than a "gear" check or level check here.
I had trouble (full might) at first then I found that if you cast poison and deprotect on him, have someone cast a couple of elemental spells (thundera etc) he will go to his debuff phase, even if you take a bunch of hits. He’s actually very easy when you stop trying to dodge him and start just trying to debuff and damage him.
I’m going to try this, I feel like I’ve died by just trying to debuff him and missing out on easy hits Going to respec to have my team mates auto cast elemental
Note: I cannot look at the code and it's unlikely anyone will be able to until a PC version comes out. Everything explained here is based on my experimentation and experience fighting Odin solo with every character. The mood gauge I edited in the video is there purely as a visual representation to explain the concept. I do not know the exact numbers involved in the background so I might be a bit off. Nevertheless I feel confident that this is accurate enough to understand Odin's behaviour and avoid triggering Zantetsuken.
Had no idea about how the greater / lesser status resists worked until now. I always thought it just made it harder to apply it, not limit the amount of times you can apply it. Thanks for the information.
ugh I wouldn't normally go after a video guide for something I know I can complete, but for some reason I couldn't get this battle to go my way despite not knowing where I was going wrong
If you’re close to him with handcuffs during the second half of the fight he can interrupt two atb spells with reprisal. You need to have some space between you before you cast to avoid being interrupted
Really appreciate this video. I will say The Reprisal mechanic absolutely needed to be explained in Access. They did an extremely poor job communicating what was going on with Odin's Reprisal. Until I looked it up on the Internet, I was just like: "He just randomly decides Cloud can't do anything for the rest of the battle now, I guess??" and would restart the fight when it happened.
my thought is still need to master the perfect block timing to beat this Odin, and not everyone really can mastery this block...I'm unsure this Odin can be defeated on another way...
@@noogies5343 Perfect blocking helps but it's not strictly necessary. You can do normal blocks. As long as you remain consistently aggressive you can pressure him. Try a RedXIII strategy. Equip him with a physical damage weapon and put on skills that give health back. Give him Steadfast block, chakra and HP materia. When Odin attacks, just block, don't worry about perfect timing, and attack immediately to activate RedXIII's counter attack. Pop vengeance as soon as the gauge is full. Whenever you have ATB, attack him with sidewinder. When you start getting low on health, attack him with reaper touch. When you get really low, heal with Chakra. If you get the handcuffs, use Retaliation. Odin doesn't reprisal that for whatever reason.
@@PaulineRagny awesome, thank you for your tips, after Red XIII join in battle, at last I can withstand on the batlle until defeat this Odin...I think I understand now if should aggresive means to use ability or spells on him as many as possible...
One simple trick explain here save me in the battle without fail. First my party os Yuffie, barret and cloud. Use Yuffie as main and evade, debuff and some more evade. If he ever uses the Gallahorn Move… go berserk on ATB abilities. Unload everything you got in those 3-5 second. Like explained, it reset his interest in the battle and you can continue to hit from afar, evade and debuff.
Thank you for that. I got absolutely blasted on my first few tries, just thinking i didn't have enough HP. But with your help i beat Odin within minutes.
best bet is to use yuffie and dodge like crazy and attack with doppleganger and blindside from a distance. when the other 2 have atb make them use strong magic spells for damage
I bruto forced it through sheer willpower lmao. I did not know about the handcuff thing so thought it was a timing thing. So i built the atb from range and only used braver right after he used a skill
Sorry I'm personally done with the game. I'm not going to redownload the entire 100gb thing to make more videos of it. If you have trouble with hard mode, give Barret Chakra, HP materia and a high defense accessory. Pop lifesaver at the start of every battle and it will make your team harder to kill. Barret becomes the only HP meter you need to worry about and you can refill it with Chakra easily when it gets low. Keep in mind that's not going to be a perfect solution for every battle. You will still need to experiment with different party builds for each major boss fight.
hello, thank you for the amazing guy. I’m working on this right now. I spent hours playing the main game and I got to the side quest where all the summon monsters are level 65 does this apply to that same battle with Odin and the other summon monster you have to fight at the same time or is it different because there’s two monster at once ???
Yes with some additional mechanics. If you focus on attacking Odin in that fight he will eventually vanish for a bit and give you some time to deal with Alexander.
I really don’t know what I’m doing wrong. You’re explanation got me to phase 3 easy sometimes I don’t even have to cast defaith or any other status effect but once he does that temporal imprisonment I cancel it with limit attack and immediately after he does zantetsuken. No warning or anything just immediate death. All I can do is watch as my 4 minute attempt get shoved right up my arse.
Ok well I done it the next try after posting this. I didn’t wanna waste revival earrings but I did. He done the same thing though I summoned pheonix just before he done it and revival earrings got me up and pheonix kept me going with health. That was stressful
Absolutely ripped through him with Red, Yuffie, and Tifa once I learned how the mood gauge works because of your video. Normally my go to party for boss stomping is Cloud, Aerith, and Barret but that’s built around survival and for Odin you just need to keep pummeling him.
Holy shit. I’m not sure I even understood the video, but I just picked Tifa, Red XIII, and Yuffie because of your comment and absolutely shredded him on the first try! Thanks
Is this about a later challenge in the simulator? I still haven't gotten to the point where I can take on the more challenging battles. The basic Odin fight isn't near as complicated.
This is how the basic full might fight against Odin functions. I keep getting comments on my videos asking why he never uses Zantetsuken against me so clearly some folks are having trouble with him. You probably didn't have that trouble because your playstyle was aggressive enough to keep his mood in check.
It's hard to say for sure since I cannot look at the code or anything like that. It's all based on my experimentation. I feel like a regular block will still lower the gauge because you take damage. A perfect block doesn't lower the gauge, it might even boost it a tiny bit but perfect blocks on their own are not enough to keep the gauge from emptying.
