Thanks for being honest. For anyone who doesn't "get it", in by actually being honest, he can potentially be put on a 'list' that would bar him from potentially receiving products in the future. Reviewers can get on that list if if they perhaps stretch the truth. It's a bit more dishonest and corrupt than people think. Techne doesn't do that and that's why I know I can come here to get an honest review unlike some others.
I bought a quest 3 VR headset, I was definitely baited into thinking it was better than it actually is. Turns out all of the people who reviewed it early had affiliate links in the description.
@@zionpanza2347 I am an affiliate and it's different for different people. Im one of those people who absolutely under no circumstances will I become an affiliate unless I genuinely like the product and won't spend my own money on it first. Not everyone is like that. But yeah, thats disappointing undoubtedly
Ngl T, was hoping to see you take a bite out of the ULX after eating the strawberries. 😄 But seriously, the issues you pointed out are important for those of us who were considering at least attempting to buy this mouse. My DAV3 developed the same issue with creaking as yours did. It bothered me so much that I stopped using it and got the wired 8k model with the much better build, though it was much cheaper. So I can't even imagine buying a mouse with the same or worse issues. BTW, I've watched a few other reviews of this mouse, and they either minimized or totally ignored the issues you addressed, focusing instead on metrics such as click latency. I know FM has a history of crap QC, and it's possible that you got a bad one. But I'm now feeling OK about giving the ULX a pass.
Disagree. The weight makes up for the creaking. I have many top of the line mice including the viper mini signature, and the weight differece increased my scores significantly. I dont like fingertip grip, so the m2k just wasnt for me, but this feels like the m2k with a grip where i can feel the mouse.
I'm 100% buying the Finalmouse ULX .. BUT in their Tiger LARGE size. I'm pretty damn certain I don't have jumbotron hands so I don't understand why people want these dinky mice?
The average weigh of a strawberry is 21.5 grams in 2023 please buy decent sized strawberries before you say their claim was fake your biggest strawberry was below average you should find a different strawberry supplier you are being screwed. I am not defending or hating on the mouse, I am eating strawberries right now and had to say give strawberries more credit.
i agree, lightweight mice are nice but when they make it light to the point its messing up the build quality thats a hard pass, mice from companies like vaxee and zowie are known to be built like absolute tanks and that's mainly because they dont try to make the lightest stuff imaginable
@@coyotex850 Yea Vaxee has trimmed the weight down of their mice to the absolute bare minimum without affecting structural integrity but as a result they're not popular at all outside the tactical shooter scene (CSGO/2/Valorant). In areas like Apex, Fortnite, etc basically shooters with a fuckton of aiming and tracking, most prefer the lightweight as much as possible even if it affects structural integrity because it doesn't matter to them as much as weight since they're literally flinging the mouse around for 8-12 hours a day, every day, for months and even years. Ultimately, it depends on what you're looking for. Rock solid structure, or maximum weight loss.
@@coyotex850 I think there is a limit. But I also think some companies haven't really made the effort to push lower weights yet (like Zowie still at 80gish), and some are pushing a bit too hard for it. But I think the public also expects miracles. For each new mouse, if it's not lighter than the previous one, it's seen as a failure.
Got mine today. I've had good luck with Finalmouse in the past, so I really hoped I'd get a good copy. Mine has the same side flex you mentioned. It's so bad that just resting my pinky on it it flexes when I move the mouse around. Worse yet, it grinds a bit, so it's not even a smooth flex. I'm going to reach out to their support, but regardless I won't be using this innovative mouse.
The weight is amazing. The sensor feels great and i LOVE the clicks on all buttons more than any other mouse I've used. Unfortunately, the rest of the mouse feels CHEAP. It was advertised as being made of carbon fiber right? It feels like cheap/light plastic in my hand and literally no matter where I touch it, it flexes with VERY little effort. I'm pretty sure I could actually break this mouse, with just two fingers squeezing it on the palm rest. The size are already creaking and making popping sounds if I put the slightest amount of pressure on them, after about 20 hours of use. Honestly, I'm disappointed. I'm probably going to sell this on eBay and hope to break even, then buy the Razer Viper Mini SE when it goes up for sale again this weekend.
You get it soled for more then you bought it 100€ no problem i did the same and now i got a Viper mini SE for the price i sold my Finalmouse . I just want also to be fair they never sayed it made out of Carbon fiber thats just to expensive to do . Its a Carbonfiber combosit so basicly plastic with carbonfibers reinforced to make the shell thinner loseing weight . It is still plastic in the end thats why it feels cheap . You can also just retrun it if it doesnt sell befor the return limit is over
at this point buying final mouse stuff is an idiot test ontop of the horrible qc there products have good luck dealing with there support if you can even reach them for RMA's etc.
I check like only 3-4 people for reviews about peripherals, and you are definitely one of those for the real and honest opinions, which is how everyone should be, never downplay the truth. The things that we are seeing with mouse (and other hardware too) companies, things that are overshadowed just by hype, specially on this overpriced delusional market, is just, unacceptable, for some of us of course, sadly is becoming the "norm" to allow them to sell stuff and use the customer as testers, worst part is when people "pre-order" stuff, even worst when they have an history of QC issues and being mediocre at dealing with the RMA processes that will get most people into a loop hole.
definitely none of the issues you mentioned here. I can get the one side to flex if i make a concerted effort to push it in, but why would i? This whole review is pretty nit-picky tbh, and feels like you are searching for things to dislike, think im gonna stick with Bad Seeds take on this one.
@@TheTechne think what you want, but this whole review reeks of someone trying their hardest to go against the grain for views, and its transparently sad. And the fact that you felt the need to comment on someone who doesn't agree with you solidifies my point lmao.
@@RCmetal11I don't like this guy, he only states his prefrences and his own view and comparing it to things no one cares about, State some FACTS like optimum, he did a review of the mouse and said it's one of if not the best mouse he has ever used, and it destroyes the market. One thing he did state however is that it's very flexi as might be true considering the weight, idk 🤷
@@flashbutton2526 yeah hes just kind of an opinionated loser. I gave a few videos a chance, but the fact that hes picking fights in the comments with people who disagree with him just makes me think hes a shitty person. Nevermind that instead of saying anything of substance he did the classic "crying emoji" laughing thing that teens do. Just kind sad really. Probably always be a B level youtuber.
My copy is the exact same way. It surpasses every other mouse I've used in terms of smoothness. But the flex and creaks and scratchy feelings really taint it. I've considered seeing if i can just rig it to a razer mini shell..
@@kunai222 I'm sending it in for repairs, they already told me its not suppose to be like that. If I'm spending a lot on a mouse i expect it to be perfect. I get that mindset but why settle for unsatisfactory if its repairable.
@@WuufieIts still a plastic mouse you will never get the best quality thats why i dont think its worth the money or spezial enoth to justify buying into it .
Fuck man, I'm so glad to see an honest review where someone shows every detail that we consumers ended up seeing until we get the product, example the tape under the battery, that to me is a 0/10 stinker and NO ONE from all the youtubers that yall know have mentioned that, so thank you Techne, you saved me $189.
me laughing with my 1year old 100€ still as new lamzu atlantis at all the "free thinkers" beta testing a new product launch for 220€. cool mouse, but definetly not gonna pay that for a mouse.
Glad to see someone without terminal fortnight syndrome review these mice. I swear it should be a disclaimer at the start of all reviews that this person is a npc. It’s like talking to ChatGPT only less original.
Woah I haven’t seen your videos in a couple of years and holy you look so different now. You lost some weight, grew some facial hair out and got a bunch of tattoos. What made you decide on getting all those tattoos so late in life?
I like it when companies strive for the lowest latency possible. When i upgraded from the g403 to the wired dav3 the latency difference was noticeable, especially for the clicks and gaming with lower latency is more fun. Also click latency and higher ping are very different things. If you have high click latency you need to lead your shots or track the target after clicking which makes hitting shots harder. For higher ping there's lag compensation in pretty much ervery modern game so there's no need to lead shots.
190....for this trash...if im paying 190 the mouse better make me able to float on water when i hold it or turn water to wine...other than that it'll stay right on their website
Thank you. I have weak joints but strong grip. I over compensate for my joint stability by over griping my mouse tight and I defiantly need good build quality. (looks like I'll just be upgrading to the superlight 2).
Meh, can only speak to my copy but it's been great. I do miss that metal feel on my starlight though. Complaints of flex are always so funny to me, maybe I just don't grip hard enough. Complaints about the company aside, the product is great. (Of course can only speak to my mice for QC issues)
Leave it to Techne to give us yet another BASED review. I also don't appreciate deceptive marketing. I've hated finalboy and his scummy tactics since I bought the air58 (loved the mouse, hated the lack of QC). Before anyone says I'm a hater, I still have owned almost every model since the air58, hoping they would live up to the hype and yet they always disappoint. The fact that the scrollwheel is STILL an issue after years of iterations from the finalfactory (wherever it is), we still have the same ghost scroll wheel jumps from 6+ years ago. Finalboy does a great job pushing some aspects of the technology but still can't get the QC right and it's maddening. All that being said, I'm still going to buy a ULX large hoping that I can finally have an updated air58 and maybe I'll win the lottery and be one of the minority mice that doesn't have ghost scroll issues.
Btw…you have lost weight, and your desk/backdrop is a bit cleaner? Looking sharp man. Thanks for the video. Think you may have helped me decide on another product.
Most expensive mouse I've ever bought is the Logitech g pro x superlight. My main atm is the CoolerMaster mm720. It only weighs 49g but I'm not paying silly money to shave another 10 grams off. However I do think the more lightweight a mouse is the easier and faster you can move and stop it which then leads to accuracy being better. Also less fatigue at low sens if you're playing for really long sessions throwing it about your mousepad.
Actuly thats not 100% the case . Fatigue is not a problem even with high weight mice becouse in reality nobody that uses heavy mice will plac on low sens if movements become harder you make ever movment you do faster so you move less over all . On top of that there isnt realy any mouse anymore thats realy heavy the heavy mice are now 60 70grams but the standart is now around 50 . Then is another factor what grip do you us if you palm grip weight doesnt matter if you claw grip weight also doesnt realy matter for the most part if we take 50g as standart . Were less weight has a realy larg effect is if you finger tip you dont have the support of your entire hand so your fingers feel every gram of weight hard . The thing is with the Starlight Ultralight X that you traid quality feeling for weight lose . It is still plastic in the end you feel its plastic and you get Finalmouses bs fanbase in the back as well then then there is the competition that can do the same low weight but for cheaper and its magnesium that wont bend or break on you ever like the WLmouse X or new upcomeing Superlight 2 shaped magnesium clone for just 99€ .
I guess I got super lucky with my run 1 ULX phantom cause it has no flex issues. The only thing I dislike is the battery adhesive being in the open. They have said they are fixing that in the future ULX’s.
Seems FinalMouse compromised on the structural integrity of the mouse and made some shortcuts to reach a target weight. They would have been better off shooting for a 40-42 gram weight target and building a more structurally sound mouse. IMO the Beast X is the better mouse of the two.
I like how you can talk negatively about a product and not feeling like you are just sending hate a product. It's a shame that they advertise their product to weight 35g when everyone knows that's not the case (at least not yet). Right now the ulx medium is heavier than what the ulx large is intended to weight.
To me.. all light mice feel like I'm getting less for my money. This mouse reminds me of some knock off thing you would buy thats a big shell with a little chip inside of it. I will stick with my G502 with the weights in it. Have for 10 years now and have tried MANY mice. Nothing has compared for me and my personal preferences.
well based on what you said (G502 with weights), this mouse aint marketed towards people like you. This mouse is for tryhards and e-sports fragers. The lighter the mouse..the better you aim. Ofc you will perform way worse if you swap from a fkn 120 gram brick to a 60gram mouse like the... GPX 2 as an example. But after you re-train your muscle memory with a lighter mouse you will aim better. And thats just facts. Personal preference is something else... and i respect that. If you dont care about reaching your full potential then any mouse will serve a purpose.
Don't know if you're serious or not but I don't agree at all. I get the marketing speak but I use very high dpi with a heavier mouse versus low dpi with a lighter mouse that I usually see. I don't have problems carrying fools on my back with my heavy mouse in FPS games or mobas or anything else. Just because you get a light mouse doesn't mean you are or will be good at anything.@@zexedearth89
I'm ok with the other things but that flex is a deal breaker=p. Maybe we gotta wait a few iterations before the fixed all the flaws, doesn't look like much of an upgrade from the UL.
Finally an honest mouse review! Such an overhyped product and you even have luck on your side to buy one. Never understood why people flock to this company. Most of their products have horrible QC and yet hardly anybody talks about it. They charge almost $200 for a mouse that creaks and breaks. People make very poor decisions buying anything from this company. Better options out there for way less money and guess what? You don’t have to be lucky to buy a quality mouse not made by final mouse.
Love your video as always Techne, though I have to be honest you sound very agitated in this video. I guess for good reasons, but I much prefer the happy, hyper Techne!
Considering buying this mouse seeing as problems are 50/50 and hoping to get a good one. However would it be reasonable to say that if I waited a while to go ahead and buy one (or get lucky enough to even buy one) I’d have better luck getting a solid copy as they work out kinks in production?
It's a production mouse so at this low weight they cannot 100% assure you that ur getting exacly the weight it's supposed to be, My friend has a medium weighing 33 grams 🤷
I dont believe his medium is 33g, his scale is 100% off.. they weight measured with no battery to get 35g lol. the average is 37-38. mine is 38.@@flashbutton2526
I like how honest you are. This gives so much value to your channel. Btw. I just got the Vaxee ax outset wireless. I totally fell in love with it and I could imagine you could really like it, too. And I am not sure how important the weight really is. I think it is overhyped.
The weight is superimportant and its the best mice on the market they have fixed all of the qc that this guy mentioned now and it will no longer flex anywhere
@@flashbutton2526 yep agree there are some ambidextrous like also G930 which is my favorite between both or even the Logitech shroud one, but like i said none are dedicated with a form that is only usable by lefties.
