Final Theory (2021) - Galactic Empire Building Tactical Strategy 

I actually find it makes it tactically more interesting, as choosing your routes has to be done fairly carefully, and for instance having to move a fleet back onto a shipyard tile to reinforce it will probably cost you a few turns, which can be critical. I think letting each fleet move separately would speed up the game far too much. I was thinking something like allowing extra moves once an empire hits a certain number of sectors, but the game already heavily incentivises you to expand as fast as you can.

​@@atraxisdarkstar Definitely sounds like it'd be more tactical, exactly what i thought when i read the initial comment here. More like a chess game than an RTS or something. Some people don't understand the finer concepts in games, or it's too slow for them and that's ok.

Something like this.

I agree. I just recommend Spatter to a developer.

I'll tack on a +1. Splatter sells me on new indie titles quicker than anything else... I dont know if that's a good thing with the time I've sunk in Vampire Survivors

Then why is armor sloped on tanks to prevent penetration? A sphere would give the most slope, would it not? The only reason that tanks aren't spheres (yet) is the volume cost of spherical objects and the fact that they have to move on a 2D surface.

Pretty much everyone wants strong borders. Anyone who claims otherwise is just fearmongering.

@@bestieswithtesties some govs would choose own expanding over strong borders

Folks from Cali and Texas (the sensible ones) both tend to have a real pertinent desire for strong borders.

I mean the base game was $2.50 on sale...

On sale. Full price is 11$ something and the other dlc haven’t released yet. And it’s been 2-3 years.

While I generally agree with this notion, it seems that one of the DLCs have already been released(and the other 3 are on the steam page as well, with a description on what they will contain). Cant hurt to put it on wishlist/watchlist and check out the progress every now and then.

Reminds me of stellaris. The game is fun until late game is like going with all fleet together to destroy everything in the way instead using tactics or something

hopefully the upcoming dlc shakes up the meta but yea you're right

@@big_tasty1 I think there needs make you choose one of 4 primary weppons, like one that is good a sheld busting, one that is hull busting, 1 that does less dammabe but high rate at slipping past sheilds and one that is just all around, Just bet the game again and all I ened up doing was maxing out 2 classes of ships and the deadnought and DD, (royal) mast matces they never even drops a sheild on any of my ships. the AI need to focus fire better. I will need to play the game again the hardest setting to see if the AI focus fire or it just gets cheats.

@Dimitar well, I love coe, been playing it since coe3 and it's crazy combat system. But I don't consider it a 4x, at least not in the classical sense of the genre. Why? Because there's no clear expansion phase, in the colonize, expand, build new cities sense of the word, it happens coupled with the extermination phase. Of course this is just an opinion and the not so purist gamers will consider it a 4x, some people even consider classical RTS as 4x games since it has all the phases clearly defined (although I would argue that the expansion phase is not clearly defined).

@Dimitar Yeah, I would say it's a 3.5x. Well, the expasion is supposed to be a phase in itself, since it's coupled with the extermination I don't think it counts in the classical sense of 4x, but lots of people consider coe and Dom a 4x, I don't they are, but it's just an opinion, I'm not an especialist or anything :P

2D thinking my friend, 2D thinking. There is a reason that space stations are cylinders.

@@yzfool6639 A civilian space station isn't exactly designed to be shot up, fixed as fast as possible and then recrewed and returned to service the next day for another fight to get shot up again.. Military hardwares, particularly ones that are expected to get shot up as they fight on the frontline on the other hand does... When something in the military is not boxy in nature... that usually means it's harder to fix, longer to fix, and more EXPENSIVE to fix and the military hates that. They will only tolerate that when that non boxy thing offer something so good that they are willing to accept the extra effort, time, and money required to use and maintain it...

It's a race to create the Bomb, and no pacifist will be spared.

Enrichment sites are good and you can only move once, but there are multiple front lines of attack. So you need multiple fleets to pivot as the map changes. The Empire starts spawning in fleets, there is an ability to immobilize a fleet for a couple of turns. It's basically like a game of chess but you control how to modify your pieces on the field. Eventually you will get caught in a 2-3 front war so you need fleets for defence and to decide who you will move against or defend against. But by doing so, you will leave yourself open to attack. Also starports can only manufacture one ship type and only one at a time. So having more gives you the ability to stock up on the ships you like faster. It is deceptively simple, the strategic map plays a lot like a board game. Chess being a great example and then the battles are like Warhammer.

@@KillerofGods Thanks for the insight!

@@Muenni Yeah just to clarify I wasn't trying to argue/disagree with you. I picked this up only because of this video. I love strategic games and picked this up despite the simplistic strategic map. But it is nice having a "simpler" strategy game to jump into once in awhile. There is a lot more going on then you'd think, with the nuke that can just wipe out an entire enemy fleet. (But then it creates a resource deposit to mine, it also destroys any circles/stations already there.) So having a starports is really nice in that you can instantly call in a fleet from your reserves. Enrichment sites a great because they build progress to the nukes and allow a bigger fleet. But with the movement so limited starports are very much needed to expand so you can have one fleet go one away and another a different way/defend. You can run into a problem where a fleet ends up being so far behind the enemy lines that it is better to scrap it for 50% of the money. So you can redeploy a different fleet later. If a fleet gets badly damaged then it becomes a problem trying to reinforce it might be too great a time sink, so you end up making due with what you got until you can capture a starport. I'd say the limitations definitely add to the complexity, but in a different sort of way from most PC strategy games. For how cheap it is, I say it is worth a pickup. Especially if they are going to add more fleets/faction options. Granted I've learned it is better to max out three or so ships than to put a little bit in everything. So it'll take multiple playthroughs to use all the ships for even just one faction. So even choosing your ship composition is a strategic choice. Although I will label that as more of a con for me since I like more ship variety and using different units as a campaign progresses. Tldr; Imo all the cons in this game definitely add more strategic depth then you would think for the game. It isn't the most complex game, but definitely has a lot of hidden potential that stem from it's very limitations.

We don't usually. Though either one means the same thing.

Been playing this since I saw this video. Interesting game, but I think it needs a little work I don't think the one fleet move a turn is a problem. It creates a level of strategy, IMO. I don't mind the strategy of it. However, at some point you have so many resources, it's hard to keep track. Where can I build a BattleCruiser? Where do I have a lot of Tacknium to harvest? Things like that. There should be a screen that shows you your resources so you can just click what you're looking for and the interface takes you there.

Nope

Hes said in streams that comments can be toxic and he avoids it. But can't nobody speak for him but him lol

Curved surfaces aren't always flat to a projectile, if anything it's closer to always being angled. An angled surface isn't constant in its angle relative to the projectile.

@@Tachdelan Fred's statement only holds true if the spheroid is being hit dead center.

@@Dosbomber Which is a target area the size of an of a point...so Fred's statement is inaccurate.