It's true! I've never seen a big delivery van packed to the ceiling - you can't even reach the ceiling. This van and by extension the Japanese small vehicle trend? will be sorely needed in our cities moving forward
_"You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like."_ Well... 65 millions years ago, T-Rex were all the rage. Today we've got Chickens... ... ain't progress a beautifully relative thing ?
The 'happy face' that kids wave at and makes people smile has a knock-on effect with the driver; happy faces make lowers aggression levels. It's brilliant.
One thing that struck me was that Robbo literally walked into the cabin, no stepping up required. That alone would be huge for delivery guys who are in & out of their vans many times during their rounds. The simplicity & flexibility is pure genius, plus the drivers enjoy people waving & smiling as they go by. That is priceless. 👍
The key to this design is its simplicity and presumably avoiding the usual safety regulations by falling within the European Cycle Car spec. For many people this is just what they are looking for, overstuffing cars with frequently unwanted semi self driving tech etc just drives up the price and adds to the chip shortage. I wish them every success.
This is basically the modern version of the old milk float that I used to drive back in the 60s We really need a car version of this with 2 seats and LOW PRICED. A £40.000 car is not reasonably priced for most people. Innovative technology is great to look at and hear about, but something that is in the reach of low paid workers so that they do not have to drive older IC vehicles is what we really need now. 104 degree weather in the UK this week is finally proving that we don't have 10 years to sort things out
So a Citroen Ami. Only thing I'd like to see is more small EV's at low price that can do motorway speeds. This only does 30mph which might be fine in the city but feels a bit fraught in more open areas with speedier roads. Dacia spring might do it but apparently it's been delayed to 2024 for UK due to high demand in existing markets.
@@stuartmorgan3654 It does 30 mph because that is all that is needed for this type of vehicle it is not meant for the motorway. Try listening to the video you are watching next time.
@@OhFishyFish I don't follow your logic as it is a world vehicle not designed to grab any local grants so that's your answer up the shoot. But at £40000 I think it has missed the opportunity to be a price beater. With all that low tech £25000 would be the sensible pricing point, perhaps that is why no video has disclosed the price.
@@grahamjohnson4702 I don't doubt you don't get it.. It's another stupid project nobody would buy at the full RRP. Its a £40k tuk tuk with top speed of a bicycle for crying out loud.
Take off the box, put on a fifth-wheel plate and you've got an electric Scammell Scarab. Those were used for "last mile" deliveries by British Rail for years - they could swap the trailer for a freshly made up load/different body (box, flatbed, etc) much quicker in the freight depots.
wonder if you could also have some of the batteries on the trailer.. so that you can charge one while it's back at base or similar.. probably overcomplicating things
These look fantastic. Just like the Piaggio Apecars you still see everywhere here in southern Italy. They still make them, too. I’m completely baffled that they’re still being manufactured with two-strokes and that Piaggio aren’t focusing on something like this instead.
here in india, piaggio became so successful that other such as Mahindra motors, copied made their 3three called alfa. baja motors, and tvs motors did the same copy work
Stuck in the past, and I would say half the vehicle could be done by Piaggio in house with no problems, just get the power plant, inverter and battery in. But stuck with the mentality of "not invented here", so they still do a 2 stroke engine, even if the rest of the planet has 4 strokes with better fuel economy, and much cheaper running cost, for the same price as the 2 stroke engine. Just means they will be bought out by Musoshi very soon, and become just another name from the past, though the brand may continue on this electric van in Italy.
Cheap conversion kits for 2-stroker's is what's needed next. India seems to be all over this and with good reason. A huge existing fleet that just needs tweaking not trashing!
Piaggio Ape electric is available in India, size is little larger this. They are market leaders on the same I guess. Quality is not comparable to this one, especially interiors.
Three wheels, perfect for going forwards into a “parallel parking” space, without riding the kerb. The once common electric milk float in the UK had three wheels. They knew a thing or two way back then!
@@paspax Yet Reliant Robins were still on UK roads for a very long time, ditto some early sports car, admittedly in a reverse configuration. Had they been "dangerous" then perhaps the vehicles would have disappeared from production altogether? The episode mentioned the vehicles featured were extremely popular so will presume it comes down to driving standards, the abilities of the drivers themselves and the environment they inhabit? Watching Clarkson hamming it up at every opportunity to overturn a three wheeler is not "real life", is it. Plus he demonstrated the survivability of several self induced relatively slow 'tipping overs". Three wheel configurations, single front wheel, offer huge advantages in that the turning circle is small cf two axle four wheel configurations. Ergo they are ideally placed as delivery vehicles where absolute speed, as in an urban area, isn't required. They are sometimes labelled "last mile" delivery vehicles. That said, now we are seeing proposals that the 30mph speed limit should be be reduced to 20mph throughout the land then such a vehicle might be absolutely idea for both urban and suburban commuting. I'd have one.
This is frankly an ideal EV concept. I wish simple EV options like this were available to consumers. If this thing did 100km/h and had 100km of range (and could be NHTSA approved) the platform would be ideal for commuting, micro-camping, delivery, shopping, everything! I want one.
Unfortunately to keep it safe and affordable we need to have our current models categorized under the regulations within the low speed vehicles segment. However, hold tight, in a year or so we will announce the production of our faster models with higher payload options.
@@musoshiEV looking forward to seeing what you have in the works! I know that safety regulations (requiring airbags, lane-departure warnings, etc…) have made it a real challenge to sell simple, high-utility vehicles in the US and other markets. Yours looks like a great example of the straightforward utility EV I wish for! Thx for the reply, I’ll “watch this space”. 👍🏼
Brilliant little vehicle, perfect for inner city work and probably a lot of fun to drive. One suggestion I’d make though is that they loose the passenger seat so that the driver could enter and exit the vehicle from the kerb side as well as the road side - less risk to the diver of being hit by traffic in a narrow street when getting in and out of the vehicle. You could also put the driver in the middle of the cab; that way there would be no need to make separate variants for LH and RH drive markets.
And either remove the doors (in warm countries) or fit sliding doors that can be latched open. Makes entry / egress quicker, and easier in tight spots.
@@sarkybugger5009 If you look at their website they kind of offer this as an option. Essentially you remove the normal door and add a "security bar" (their description) - essentially it's the door components (hinge, wing mirror mounting and door handle) from the middle of the door - but no top or bottom section.
Watching episodes like this makes me feel positive about the future........ then I look out of the window and see 3 Range Rovers picking kids up from the primary school I live near...... Nice while it lasted!
Primary school???!!! Bloody sauce! These vehicles are designed for yummy mummy ladies to drop off their offspring at prep school and later boarding school. Suggest you telephone police next time and report suspected stolen vehicles. Outrageous!
I love when Mr Llewellyn is grinning from ear to ear. Then he is like a fish in water - or more accurate - like a FullyCharger in something propelled forward by electrons ⚡Keep flying ✌️
We have milk delivered by 'Milk and More'. A couple of years ago they upgraded from the old traditional milk floats to modern electric vans. We no longer get disturbed by the clatter of the milk float; now its the slamming of the door! I guess its safety regulations which stops these vans going door-less like the old milk floats. I suggest an external electrotonic control rod, so the van can be guided externally without the driver having to get in 🙂
These are the vehicles that really affect our lives: the ones that get right into the hearts of our cities (and if they're I.C.E. then they make them horrible!) Not convinced this truck has enough clearance to make a sharp turn up a sudden gradient narrow street or poorly placed kerb, but if it can truly deal with (all of) Istanbul, then that's a magnificent start!
This car is like the child of the Reliant Robin and the Nissan Cube, and I love it! If I had a business, this would be my first pick for delivery vehicle!
Reminds me a bit of the Electric Milk Floats that used to be everywhere in the 70s and 80s, only modernised. Bet you could convert one of these to fulfill that role very easily, if such things were to make a comeback.
That was my first thought too! It is 287cm long so long enough though the bed would have to extend into the passenger compartment. No to the trailer though since backing up becomes so hard.
I can see these being commonplace in some environments quite quickly and like that it is not over engineered, arguably the failing of some of the competition. Probably most flexible with the box body as that would open it up for a small side loading capability. There are probably also some trades who could use a vehicle like this in a city environment with a customised box.
I work part time as an Auto Parts Delivery Driver this would absolutely work for 9 out of 10 of my deliveries, usually small loads and most within a 10 mile -16km round trip. I
I still believe in cargobikes for this type of last mile. The Musoshi slurps 7x (!!!!) more electrons for the same distance. For instance the GoLo (at fully charged live) also has 1500L cargo space but only uses 18Wh/km, not 120 (like the musoshi). I think we need to step away from the thought that making everything electric will solve all energy problems and start taking efficiency seriously as well. I'd rather see a Wh/km figure (like we always did with gas cars) instead of a range figure. Just as an exampe, the hyped up Arrival van has a whopping (supposed) 391Wh/km efficiency, more than triple the Musoshi's and 21 (!!) times that of a big cargo bike like the GoLo. Just imagine needing 21x more solar panels for the same driven distance. And yes, for bigger cargo you need bigger vans but for parcels you just need different routes (flower petal pattern) to do it with a smaller vehicle and a couple extra stops at the depot
Yes EVs are not created equal, Wh/km is crucial in comparing them. So far politicians and car manufacturers alike think "electric" = no emissions. Otherwise, comparing different types of vehicles, which likely has not been through the same testing cycle to measure consumption is difficult, also this carries 400kg of cargo, so I presume the stated consumption is for more than the load of the cargo bike? But you are right 120Wh/km is more than the typical (Chinese) small ordinary EV, especially when you consider the low top speed.
In your limited test, it seemed very stable on corners with very little roll. Being short enough to reverse up to the pavement would make it very easy to deliver bulky goods without getting in the way of passing traffic. It looks a great little vehicle, ideally suited to the job.
This would be a good vehicle for retirees to scoot to the store for groceries. Small enough to fit in any garage, and which could be fitted with a much smaller box.
Did anyone notice the slots for a fork lift on the "midi"? Forget "loading the van" You load the "box". The "van" pulls in, A forklift swaps the boxes, the van pulls out. . Barcode on the van. Barcode on the box. Load logged into the box.
The only downsides I see to this element are; increased weight, less time to rapid charge the vehicle However, if the battery was part of the bottom of the box then when the van comes in for the next load it would automatically get the next charge in a matter of minutes
Interesting vehicle. From a design point of view I would have thought a sliding door would be most beneficial to delivery drivers who hop in and out all the time. Also if you’re making a vehicle small enough to potentially park end on on the street, a sliding door would be far easier to use in those situations.
Came here to say this. One of the points of the video was that the vehicle could park between two other vehicles along the street. If someone parked the vehicle like it was in the video they would not be able to exit with the swing out doors. At least one of the doors should be sliding, at least as an option, to enable such ability.
Yes, having a cargo door only at the back is a negative. Ideally the driver should be able to enter the back of the vehicle from the front, and move in a central aisle between racks on either side. That way the order of delivery of the packages can easily be set during the loading of the vehicle, which takes place during the sorting process at the station. If one loads everything thru one rear door, then you would have to at the station complete the sort, with the load on the floor next to the vehicle, and then load all the packages into the vehicle in order of delivery, which is double handling of each package and more time.
It’s a modern milk float, the whole of the uk used to depend on electric vehicles that were almost identical in capabilities. We had this and we’ve lost it!
2:22 It is refreshing that front end design is happy looking, rather than the typical slant-eyed snarling grille as seen on all fords and many others for example - and to appeal to kids like that is great! Nice practical round lights design. The happy leccy tuk-tuk is here!
I'm a part-time postman currently driving a Fiat POS diesel van driving 20 miles a day and walking 10-13 miles. This is way too small for an average day's route given the number of parcels we handle. It also needs a set of side doors so you can organise and access your load as you go along.
@@MaikTerOriginal yes, but couriers only deliver parcels to certain addresses. We cover every house (in my case 465) in the same route every day. I know Royal Mail is trialling Peugeot van EV’s in some cities and I can’t wait to ditch the diesel!
These are ideal for last mile! I fully expect to see these everywhere in 5 years especially at the right price. Only like 5% of actual trips need more range than this thing offers and there's plenty of other vehicles for that! India for example is already converting their fleets of TukTuks's to electric just to save $$ this year due to fuel costs.. So definitely this company is onto something!
I love it, it's make sense, and every city should start adopting them. I'd love to see my Amazon packages delivered via one of these rather that at larger traditional van / car.
Hi There 🖖We are also working on the implementation of these panels on top of our EV's as well. This will be an option on our vehicles. However just to be clear, the amount of energy that can be created from a panel of such size would make a minimal charging affect on our batteries.
@@musoshiEV hey! Interesting, I know from the Clean Motion Re-volt marketing material, their pod could add around 100km of driving per day (600w of panels should be pretty significant during the entire lifespan of the vehicle). 😊
That looks about the right size for a pallet or palletized bin so the load could be made up while the driver is on the road with the previous load. (Reminds me of the ethos behind Scammel Scarabs).
One thing I noticed at 3:21 was the locking catch hanging down, with the height requiring you lean into the vehicle I imagine lots of people banging the back of their head on that.
It would also be a nice little municipal work truck with a pickup bed on it. Or it could be a good vehicle for redistributing bike share bikes around the city.
Their website suggests a 10% saving over an equivalent van. That'd be something like a Nemo or Bipper. They sold for c.£13k, so sadly the Ami would still be cheaper. Though I do agree that this looks much more fun and it makes a tonne of sense as a little runaround (especially if there was a window in the back)
Needs a conveyor belt as the floor in the back so you can hit a button and roll the boxes at the front to the door, no more bending over. Also handy for packing, stack to the roof and push the button to roll it toward the front of the vehicle
Three wheelers with the third wheel at the front are fundamentally less stable than those with it at the back, but being an EV with its batteries in the floor must make this one good enough for the job it has to do. I mean, no one is going to set a lap time at the Nürburgring in it (I hope). Pity they didn't put the driver in the middle, though, because then their weight would be symetrically over the front wheel, plus LHD & RHD versions would not be needed.
Driver in the middle was something we have considered a great deal. But we wanted to have a vehicle where a passenger can also be seated given that our EV's are designed to fulfill the needs of many different industry verticals. On our vehicles, the passenger seats can be folded or totally removed to gain additional cargo space for the driver. Plus to have the feeling of driving a car rather than a Tuk-Tuk was very important to us. That's why we chose to have a left or right hand drive design.
Needs a couple of hooks on the back wall of the cab. A no-passenger seat option, maybe central steering? I'd also be concerned about frontal impact protection but looks nice and roomy in there. .
Reliance robin comes to mind. This is why a lot of modern companies are choosing to put the single wheel in the back and the two in the front. This improves stability.
Great to hear the impact of new technologies to improve driver experience overall in our cities - easier driving, less tiring, comfortable, cleaner, easy to maintain, great agility and handling.
Reminds me of the Cushman Truckster used by the NYPD for parking enforcement - I don't think you strictly need 3 wheels for maneuverability, just look stuff like Japanese Kei vans or the Daihatsu Midget. What it does do is sidestep a lot of "car" regulations in the EU and probably other places by being classed as a trike/motorcycle but not having the speed/weight restrictions of l7e class "heavy Quadricycles" but still drive able on a car license. It's an odd loophole, but a useful one, though to be honest the "loophole" shouldn't be a loophole in the first place and maybe we should ease up on the legal requirements for small four wheelers.
This looks very very similar to the "pods" by the swedish company Clean Motion, which you see in a few Swedish cities as taxis/delivery vehicles from the company Bzzt.
@@rogerstarkey5390 there are those smaller thinner panels, not as effective as the ones used on a house, but I still think there is a variety that could be useful on top of a vehicle
My dad had a converted A35 van back in the day, put seats in the back to escape car tax in the UK. Seems to me, as manufacturers are seemingly refusing to build decent affordable small electric cars, that maybe this is something that could have something similar done to it.. I don't like three wheelers especially but as a low speed city car, why not..
They should make mini taxis from the same platform and size as well. Where I live in Manzanillo, Colima, México they have regular taxis and also small motorcycle 3-wheeled taxis too that all need to be switched for electric.
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I would have made the driver seat and steering wheel in the middle.. would have been an more cost-effective choice, other than that, kudos, need more of these on the roads.
@@OhFishyFish Funny you’d say that, because from my experience the people usually blocking roads and causing traffic jams are: people who don’t know how roundabouts work, SUV drivers who constantly switch lanes because they have no idea where they’re going, ricers with their crashed BMWs in the middle of the road, farmers with agricultural vehicles much larger and slower than this, or exotics drivers who have to raise their bumpers in order to clear literal pebbles 😂
@@zumuvtuber I don;t know where you drive, but feel free to visit Scotland during the holiday season. In front of every 2-mile long column of cars moving at 25mph there's an elderly couple in a camper.
@@OhFishyFish Oh I see! I appreciate you sharing your experience, mine is from driving in Portugal and it seems very different indeed. I have visited Scotland before but I’ve never experienced that issue so it’s nice to know your perspective. Cheers!
For fleet owners, with their own charging facilities, just drive the van straight onto the charger - somewhat like mid-air refueling. Beats me why you have to drag a wire around to charge the battery.
nice idea .. i used to work for a parcel company & our Edinburgh depot was in a business park about 20 miles out of the city centre ( funnily enough 3 of our competitors were in the same park .. mainly because anywhere closer to the centre was ridiculously expensive ) .. so i guess for this to work land prices will have to change
These mini vans don't really serve last mile delivery, it's more for urban services and inner city deliveries. Amazon uses full size vans that are maybe 4-6 bigger than these. But these mini vans are great for collecting the small litter bags that are all around town, to bring a team of gardeners and their tools to the municipal park, for a baker to deliver fresh bread to nearby restaurants and stores (more like "first and only mile delivery" then), etc. Actually, full size vans are great for Amazon, because it costs them just one driver and one van for the day, but not so much so for the customer, when parcel tracking tells you that the van is _en route_ since 10AM but delivery happens at 6PM, ironically more time than the overnight shipping over hundreds of miles took... Reducing the van load (and van size) by half could be win-win for both Amazon and the customer. There is also lots of room for improvement for loading and unloading the van. The Amazon process is still pretty much manual, with a dozen or two of cuboid tote bags to load one by one by the driver, and then all the oversize parcels are loaded separately. I imagine the Rivian vans are designed for automatic loading in mind, like the depot prepares palets the size of the van box in advance, then each van can be loaded under two minutes as they come, with the palet properly sorted out by delivery address, small and oversize packages alike. Next step will be some robotic assistant to prepare the packages while the driver drives to the next address. It better be fast, as the next address is usually the next door in apartment blocks! This alone would cut delivery time much more than instant loading of the whole truck content. All this is overkill for these mini vans where every package is pretty much accessible. By next century or so, we'll probably switch to an underground delivery network, as cities can't expand horizontally beyond their city limits, nor upward for letters, package or shopping deliveries. Adopting a baby with next day delivery will never have been so convenient!
Pretty sure we won't see them in Latvia. Our last miles are pretty long. I was looking at a package tracker the other day. Driver left depot at 7am, and by noon was over 100 km away. Got to me at about 6pm. I tried to calculate total route based on points I saw on the map. Got 500km total. Few companies got themselves EV vans, but so far I only seen them around Riga area.
Italy and France were doing this over half a century ago. And Britain had the electric milk float for many years. Anyone on here still remember them? I say bring them back, but for last mile delivery. Musoshi sees the niche, and is bold enough to revisit those old vehicles and o bring them into the 21st Century. Others should also take up the gauntlet which is being thrown down before them.
I remember going to Lanzarote and seeing that some restaurants used Renault Twizys for local deliveries. The resorts are maybe 5 miles long individually with low speed limits, and some places like Puerto Del Carmen have some really pokey side streets with little free parking so it seemed like a really good idea to use a tiny electric car. I'd see this sort of van serving a similar role. I doubt it would be much use in a big city like London, but in a town with narrow streets and so on it could be really useful. Not sure about the 3 wheels though especially for something with potentially unstable loads in the back.
Great and very interesting video. I think the Chinese are far ahead in that regard. They will flood the markets with their small vehicles. We, in the west somewhat forgot about small vehicles and we made our vehicles just bigger and bigger and bigger.
Hi Chris, Actually we are from Turkey :) and the only thing our Musoshi Pop-Up mini model has in common with Tuk-Tuk' mostly used in India, China and Far East is that, they are both 3-wheelers. Due to European and American road safety measures and standards most of the vehicles in this category you would see in Asia or India could not be registered to be driven on the roads of EU or America. Which is why our vehicles are over engineered compared to our siblings in India or China. The over all engineering, safety measures and features on Musoshi EV models far exceed the standards used in other parts of the world. We hope our version of the 3-wheeled delivery van will be accepted by users in Europe and Americas as their new delivery EV , delivering within the mega cities and to suburban zones.
The doors need to open hinged backwards for better ergonomics. Its just better when you have delivery papers or small parcels or a tablet in your hand with the delivery list. Plus getting in and out is much more convenient.
India has been using tuk tuks for as long as I can remember. It works and it withstood the test of time. However, 50Km/h prohibits them from freeways where the minimum speed is 60Km/h. They should've gone to 80Km/h top speed. Then again, it would roll over easy with a sharp turn, when top heavy.
