“Hatesong” off Porcupine Tree’s 2000 release Lightbulb Sun might be what you are looking for. Delicate buttery bass line with forward momentum and purpose. 8 min tune that lives on top of Colin’s performance. There are some great mid 2000s live shots on YT. Thanks for the great breakdown, this was a real treat.
A magnificent comeback by them. This song is so groovy, i liked his tone but OMG GAVIN IS UBELIEVABLE!!! Gavin's drumming is so delicious to hear that becomes obscene, it's pure eargasm!!!
Dude... That whole album is _amazing._ A true masterpiece. I was a bit sceptical /cynical, last year, when it came out. Thinking that possibly, like quite some other bands i could mention, after a long hiatus they recorded a new album, mostly to make some money, but their heart and soul wouldn't really be in it. And also, talking specifically about PT, The Incident was such an awsome masterpiece (too), on a par with, say, The Dark Side of the Moon, and would have been an really impressive crowning achievement if PT's career had ended there. So yeah, i wasn't immideately convinced about the CC album. But _boy_ was i wrong!! 😵 Also, that then mayde me wonder what Mr Wilson had been up to in the intervening 11 years. And so i 'discovered' his solo work and collaborations. Also really, really fantastic stuff there. 👍
Super hype to see this in my sub box and I really agree with your intro! Sad my fav member of the band was not a part of this new album. His moments on the live dvds are my favorite, so much finesse and always having a great time!
Diablo chords ❤ I saw them playing this song live last summer. It's so complicated, so profond writing, I have to be alone and in peace to really appreciate their music.
Yeah, just lacked a little definition. Super scooped. I could absolutely see why it was a creative decision the more the song went on. I think it was just right out of the gate, isolated - sort of caught me off guard.
@@LowEndUniversity "I could absolutely see why it was a creative decision the more the song went on" yeah the whole slapback delay on the vocals and general sorta "subway station reverby" sound is definitely part of that sorta motif, but I agree it's not my favorite tone
You asked about pre In Absentia and the first song I thought of was Hatesong off of their Lightbulb Sun record. It's got a fairly simple, yet effective, bassline. Lightbulb Sun was released just before In Absentia when Gavin Harrison joined and there was a pretty noticeable shift in their sound, but I dig a lot of the older Porcupine Tree catalog as well as the new. It highlights what you said about Steven Wilson being a "progressive" musician: always looking to add and experiment with new sonic ideas.
This raw sound is only in the steudio version, the one on the album has more processing. I guess it´s because they wanted to show precisely the raw cut.
Comprehensive analysis LEU. Impressive and enjoyable - and educational. Would love to hear your take on Vermilion Core from Stevens 2018 Home Invasion Live at the Royal Albert DVD - if you are looking for the chance to dissect interesting bass lines... Keep up the good work!
I'm in total agreement with you about Colin Edwards. What the scattery info led me to believe is Stephen didn't feel enough that Colin wanted to be in the band (read, didn't kiss Stephen's ass enough?) Let's not assume ego doesn't enter in, Stephen is so accomplished he might get huffy at times!) I think the absence of Colin is a mark against Stephen. But what does he have to care? I'm not happy with this.
The live video of Harridan from last years tour is on RU-vid now. Nate Navarro is on bass Randy McStine on guitar and everything is superior to this version.
Technically, yes...but it's sort of become a nomenclature to call heavily-technical, virtuostic music "prog", where as "progressive" could really mean anything forward-thinking and boundary-breaking, musically. If a hip-hop artist did really innovative stuff, it would be "progressive" in nature, but most wouldn't refer to them as a "prog hip-hop artist". This is partially subjective, but I've heard debates like this for years and years in music circles.
Would love to see you dissect some Mars Volta. Juan is a monster player. Day of the Baphomets really shows off his chops. If you like odd time signatures, interesting meters, complex song structures, world influenced music. They are worth checking out.
@@abhinav1690 jealous! Can't do anything since I live INDIA. Porcupine Tree is one of those bands that somehow sounds so better live! I wish I could live your experience 😭
@@kunalkumar8217 I feel you brother. It was a once in a lifetime experience for me as well. I might share the videos I have on my channel. Be on a lookout just in case
Thank you for opening with the accolades for Colin. I think he goes underappreciated and understated in general, especially in the news / media from PT since this new album. Very little mention of him, all shrouded in mystery, etc. Kind of a sad unspoken departure.
@@LowEndUniversitynice!!!!! How about something from the album “Aquarius” some solid basslines! It’s not Conner on bass yet on this album but great basslines!!
Absolutely agree on Colin's. I love this song but honestly Colin is a way much better bass player than Steven, Colin have such a tasteful and precise way to approach the bass lines on the songs
Colin's tone i think can be mostly attributed to him playing a fretless on almost every PT album he appeared on. It's also worth mentioning that the more "flashy" basslines (in PT terms) as late as Deadwing were usually played by Steven. Both are great players!
I think the purpose of this studio recording was to just basically give an idea of how they are they sound when they are recording these songs. Like there is 0 to none refinement or production done on any instruments. Absolutely none. All of the sound you're hearing is almost raw and in as-it-is quality. So I can understand you feeling frustrated with that less produced and engineered sound but that's the point of this video. If you want a more refined you should check out their live performance or the record track. I think this comment might put a bit more perspective. Loved your whole analysis throughout the video and also shared a dislike for colin not being involved. Looking forward for more Porcupine Tree! Love❤
You need to check out their song "The Sky Moves Sideways Phase 1", there is a really cool part in that song with AWESOME bassplaying, like, omega funky and groovy.
I prefer Nate Navarro's tone on the live versions of this I've heard. But then again, seeing someone I've followed on youtube for years playing it may make me slightly biased heh :)
Loving your approach to videos. Thanks for em! ...you mentioned Meshuggah, bassist is never highlighted by them. Any Dick Lövgren videos worth reacting to would be new to me!
Colin did not join in because Steven never told him he'd been already jamming with Gavin and Richard. And then one day Steven just let Colin know (via e-mail or text message) that a new PT album had already been recorded without him. Steven also asked Colin if he would go on tour and Colin's response was like: "well, mate, thanks but no, thanks".
Totally agree regarding Colin. Thought it was kind of messed up that they didn’t reach out to bring him on. But all gravy I guess, the album is choice. Bass would have been better with Colin no doubt.
oh, and if you want an early Steven Wilson Bass line, check out his "other" group No-Man, with the iconic Mick Karn on Bass, the track "Sweetheart Raw" from 1993.
I’ve always had a hard time getting into them idk why I do love the song “anesthetize” this bass tone definitely could have been different, there’s something about a guitar player coming in and writing the bassline that I can grab on to, maybe because there’s simply no bass player thinking as a bass player, the bass tone and bassline would have been way different had Colin been involved in this, and he was just super cool in his performances
Steven describes an "incident" (no pun intended) after the last show of the previous tour between two on the band members, and the rumor is that Colin was one of them. Thay may be why he's not involved.
If Liam Neesom were a drummer.. Ha! The basic groove sounds a bit like the drive from Pete Townsend's Give Love in 5/4. Not the same only similar. Neil Peart is the King of grooved odd time signatures. This guy is good too. 👍 Bass kudos bro!
I enjoyed your analysis of this track. Gavin really is incredible at what he does. I find C/C to be a very dynamic record in terms of songwriting and production. It wasn't at all what I would've expected from a PT comeback, it defied and exceeded my expectations. I think it's up there with In Absentia as one of their greatest works.
The really cool thing about these AIR Sessions is there are many more videos with each musician describing the making of this. They answer all of the questions that you have and address the issues that you raise.
I don't really like Harridan, but this was interesting. I also couldn't get over Colin being left out, so I avoided the album for ages. Eventually I wanted to check it out but couldn't find it on standard black vinyl at that time... so I just moved on. I must check it out one day.
