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FINALLY! Real Range! 2019 Hyundai Kona Electric Review 

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Is Hyundai’s Kona EV the long range family EV we’ve all been waiting for? Tim uses one as his daily driver for a week to find out! (Hint - it’s pretty good!)
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@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
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@andersforsgren3806
@andersforsgren3806 4 года назад
Krell is audiophile stereo stuf, so no wonder you thought it sound good. =)
@HADJEE
@HADJEE 4 года назад
Huunday is the correct pronunciation. Huun Day
@zaidendemetrius331
@zaidendemetrius331 3 года назад
@Dakari Esteban yup, been using instaflixxer for years myself :D
@randallscott-key802
@randallscott-key802 4 года назад
I've had my Kona electric since March of 2019 and now have over 24,000 miles on the clock! The only "maintenance" it's had was to be taken in for inspection when the pre-programed alert came on. So far, total cost of maintenance on the car = ZERO! All one need do is look in the owner's manual to discover the first actual, real "service" is to change the oil in the reduction drive at 75,000 miles. Everything else is just a "look at it" thing. Since last March I have put gas in ANY car exactly ZERO times. Since I purchased a 240V 50A charger when I got the car, the "inconvenience" of waiting for the car to charge has been exactly ZERO! Apparently car reviewers spend every day cavorting around the world and must use public and commercial chargers, but for most of we folks who have to actually GO TO A JOB for a living, the dreaded "daily commute" is 99% of all travel, and the Kona electric is GREAT at the daily commute! First let me state that at 24,000 miles and however-many chargings, the battery shows ZERO lose of charge capacity. During the winter months when the car knows it's cold outside, the car will state a 100% charged range of around 260 miles. However, when the driving starts, thanks to the efficiency of the Kona's regenerative braking, and the ability to coast without drive line drag, the total of miles driven + remaining range tends to go UP. So the car might start off with a stated 260 miles range, but after a few commutes which comprise about half and half freeway and city street, the projected total distance that can be traveled has risen by 10 or more miles. In the warmer months such as now, 100% charge just the other day showed 282 miles range and THAT "guesstimate" includes the car's knowledge that I've been driving 70-75 mph on the freeway! By setting regen to max on the freeway it's possible to average over 3.5 miles/kWh at 70-73mph. By actively working to "hypermile" by dynamically adjusting regen for varying road conditions, I've been able to record 4.1-4.2 miles/kWh while also driving 65-75 mph on my daily 40 miles each way commute. In town driving, if one simply sets the regen and leaves it, expect efficiency to cap at around 4.5 miles/kWh, but for those who learn to use regen aggressively, combined with coasting, efficiency >5.0-5.5 miles/kWh is possible. The "problem" with the Kona electric is that when it's new and the owner doesn't have range confidence, they tend to drive it gently with a more econ-friendly approach. But as the owner gets used to the car, the tendency is to begin to explore the Kona's amazing acceleration in traffic situations! However "slow" the Kona EV might ultimately be, coming off the line as it were in a "stoplight race" the only cars that can stay with it are made by Tesla - or maybe that ONE by Chevy! Even in econ mode the car will zoom, but when placed in sport mode and traction control turned off, the car will SPIN the front tires unless the throttle is properly modulated to limit wheel spin until the car is rolling, then add-in more accelerator pedal to maintain the rate of acceleration. In countless "stoplight" pulls with cars of EVERY brand - including BMWs, Lexi, Chargers, etc., the Kona EV has left them behind as if it was launched by catapult off a carrier deck! And these are California drivers which means they are almost always going "hammer down" when the light changes! Do I think the Kona EV can beat a powerhouse ICE car in the long run? Nope, but from 0-50 mph which is where 99% of all street encounters top out, the Kona EV is half a mile out front by the time they've even gotten their engines revving! IF the car has tries for traction it would easily drop into the high-5 second 0-60 time, and IF somebody ever makes "traction bars" for it to prevent tail squat, (maintaining weight over the front tires) it could probably drop into the low 5 second 0-60 range! I'm a lot more impressed with my Kona EV today than I was even when I first bought it. I like the mini-SUV style and layout a lot more than the Tesla Model 3, and the Model Y is clearly just a more bulbous, "tad-pole" shape. Tesla makes great EV and deserve respect, but they do tend to all look alike. When reviewers and non-owners consider electric cars they obsess over range and cost to replace the battery as IF that's something needed every month or two! By now there are enough used EVs on the road for people to know how well range holds up. Nissan's early batteries were air cooled and degrade faster than Hyundai's (and Tesla) liquid-cooled batteries. And speaking of all the "advice" by many who don't even own an electric, I have charged my car to 90% consistently, with probably 25% being taken to 100%. I usually recharge it around 30%. As far as I can tell the battery has just as much capacity today as it did new. if that's because Hyundai put in a 64kWh battery that's "really" 75kWh to compensate for battery degradation - GREAT! It's working! And it shows how smart the engineers at Hyundai are! But whatEVER the reason, my Kona electric is still going strong 16 months and 24,000 miles after "new" and makes a fantastic daily driver!
@alexdavis-mann8513
@alexdavis-mann8513 3 года назад
This a amazing car for me, no idea what his talking about come the camera or the interior.
@MrTeff999
@MrTeff999 4 года назад
When you compared the cost of driving the EV to the ICE, You left out oil changes, and the periodic planned and unplanned repairs Such as timing belts, tuneups....
@ianmurray250
@ianmurray250 4 года назад
Servicing this car involves replacing the air con fluid every couple of years. That pretty much all the maintenance.
@DataSmithy
@DataSmithy 4 года назад
When comparing costs of ownership you should also factor in maintenance that are generally not required on electric vehicles. Oil changes, spark plugs, starter battery changes, transmission fluid, new belts, are all not needed for electric vehicles.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
I did mention that when reviewing but sadly I waffled on so much that a lot had to be left out of the edit. It is a huge part of EV ownership.
@LysanderLH
@LysanderLH 4 года назад
How long would you need to own a petrol Kona to spend the £10,000 difference between petrol and EV? Servicing, parts, fuel etc?
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 4 года назад
Plus Road Tax : which is zero for the EV. Actually, my Kona SE EV cost only £32.500 after government grant, though I gather the price has gone up and the grant reduced.
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 4 года назад
@@LysanderLH depends on your annual mileage: I reckon the price-even point comes after about 60,000-70,000 miles or so, depending on various factors. For example, electricity for public charging is free in Scotland.
@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 4 года назад
How many miles/years is a battery pack good for and how much will it cost to replace? Note also that EVs DO have cooling systems to manage battery pack and motor temperatures, so there is some plumbing (pumps, hoses) involved.
@14energy
@14energy 4 месяца назад
4 years lates Im looking into gettin an used one, numbers look even better now ❤
@travisp11
@travisp11 4 года назад
Thank you for making this video! My wife and I are considering an EV for our next vehicle purchase. We have good access to charging stations away from the home and the Kona is definitely one of the models that we will consider.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
You’re welcome 😁 and thanks for watching! 👍
@jonathanmatthews4774
@jonathanmatthews4774 4 года назад
My 2007 Subaru Imprezza is pretty much on it's last legs and wanting to go full EV, the Kona was the best bang-for-buck by far. As much as I love AWD and going fast, if I'm honest with myself, most of my driving is to the hockey rink or to the theater. The opportunities for me to go fast are limited.
@wheeliewonder3726
@wheeliewonder3726 4 года назад
Great review as always Mr. Baldland! Thumbs up!
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
😂
@fernandovargas7562
@fernandovargas7562 4 года назад
Cool video.... we need this car in Boston
@optimisticfuture6808
@optimisticfuture6808 4 года назад
Really like the styling
@MrTanahmed
@MrTanahmed 4 года назад
Great review. On cost, also factor in lower maintenance cost and better depreciation values. So the 10k extra up front cost is not the full story. Lease costs for example are very similar.
@smax13
@smax13 4 года назад
@1.00 that bump on the front light lens is done to amplify the visibility of this light (to other cars/pedestrians) from various viewing angles.. this is to to meet safety regulatory requirements for all the countries it is sold in.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Thanks! 👍
@Muppetkeeper
@Muppetkeeper 4 года назад
Hmmmmm, didn’t the designers of the Nissan Leaf put bumps on the headlights to reduce the wind noise from the wing mirrors? I can’t quite see where the bumps are, but they could be doing that.
@smax13
@smax13 4 года назад
Paul Elkington thats true in the leaf’s case.. it created an air pocket at the mirror area to reduce wind noise.
@seanpeacock5595
@seanpeacock5595 4 года назад
7 years of driving to recover the cost difference. THANK YOU First review I’ve seen of dozens that was honest about the cost.
@Stonemasters11
@Stonemasters11 4 года назад
Sean Peacock Not with Federal Tax rebates you gain in the US and any State Tax benefits as well. States differ. Add you can drive in the HOV Lanes in many states plus, save on maintenance cost vs gas and least in my state Free parking at a lot of Municipal Lots as well as Airport.
@seanpeacock5595
@seanpeacock5595 4 года назад
Micah Watts Lucky you. That’s a lot of benefits I don’t have access to.
@justinmenzies6400
@justinmenzies6400 4 года назад
In my province I get 8000 in rebates then 6000 for scrapping my 2009 car. Can't wait till gets in!
@seanpeacock5595
@seanpeacock5595 4 года назад
Justin Menzies nice. Quebec?
@justinmenzies6400
@justinmenzies6400 4 года назад
@@seanpeacock5595 British Columbia:)
@richardteychenne3950
@richardteychenne3950 4 года назад
Something you didn't mention when I tried the ev and non ev varients the ev battery pack is heavy and low down which made it feel much more stable in normal driving which offset the slightly lower grip in terms of comfort and driving pleasure and may contribute to the better damping of road inperfections.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Good point! I didn’t get to drive the petrol Kona sadly.
@jonathanmatthews4774
@jonathanmatthews4774 4 года назад
Let's not forget that buying new grippier tires isn't that big of a deal. Sure, it adds a few extra $$, but if grip is that big of an issue, just change the tires. Easy.
@neilbrandon
@neilbrandon 4 года назад
I owned my kona electric premium se for 2 months. Great car overall, but needs 1. better suspension to fix jittery ride. 2.sound deadening as road noise can be intrusive, 3 the phone app. Note..Rear passenger comfort is limited due to high rear floor..
@ladayblues6759
@ladayblues6759 4 года назад
Love the color
@EVinstructor
@EVinstructor 4 года назад
The EV Kona may cost £10k more to buy than a fossil fuel version, however along with fuel costs being lower and servicing costs, it will sell for more than the fossil car when you’ve finished with it. So the whole £10k does not have to be recovered in fuel costs. Look at total cost of ownership and it’s probably the same or less, especially if the vehicle is leased.
@no-oneman.4140
@no-oneman.4140 3 года назад
Exactly my thoughts. Although they have the same name, comparing a petrol version to an EV is apples and oranges.
@jonsims6031
@jonsims6031 3 года назад
Good review! In terms of running costs you need to mention EV road tax, insurance and maintenance savings which add up to a tidy sum over the year! (Depending on previous vehicle of course) and as a company car there is currently no BIK tax to pay.
@J0nny61
@J0nny61 2 года назад
Great video, thank you. I'm just about to change from a VW ID4 1st Edition to a Kona Electric. I can't fault the ID4 apart from the transmission selector on the right hand side of the steering column which is so counterintuitive.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! 😁👍 The Kona is a lot more efficient than the ID4 too, it’s a great choice 👍
@gvrose1
@gvrose1 4 года назад
Thanks for your video. Everyone talks about cost. EVs give you pleasure while driving, they reduce your stress by a huge amount, they entertain you, they benefit everyone else as they don’t make noise as you drive by people having a morning coffee at the sidewalk cafe. We pay big money to be entertained and most EVs give it back in spades!! No I did not forget to mention the price of clean air, it should be obvious to everyone. Please, please, stop talking about cost. Climb out of the polluted box your in and see what EVs really are. Thanks.
@nickclark2278
@nickclark2278 4 года назад
What about other servicing costs of the ice vs the bev
@paulvadeanu246
@paulvadeanu246 4 года назад
Great review! Very useful! Barely wait for my 2020 Kona EV in April!
@tonantos
@tonantos 4 года назад
Hi Paul. Just out of curiousity, when did you place your order? I placed mine in October but I haven't heard anything about a delivery date yet. Did Hyundai contact you already about yours?
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Thanks Paul!
@paulvadeanu246
@paulvadeanu246 4 года назад
@@tonantos hi Ray. Actually, I am also a prebooker for ID3 1st from Volkswagen. I decided to go for Kona in December after finding that ID.3 won't have a heat pump in my country. Meanwhile, the deliveries for the German car have been push once more in autumn 2020. Hyundai and Kia are under huge pressure in Europe because of the Directive of European Commission that impose an average limit of CO2 emission of 95g/km. That's why the quota for EU countries is much higher then the last year. My dealer informed me that my Kona (64kwh, highest trim) should arrive in April the latest, as part of the first batch of 40 cars.
@tonantos
@tonantos 4 года назад
@@paulvadeanu246 Thanks for the info Paul. 40 cars seems rather low in volume. Considering that that they have thousands of people on the waiting list, it may take a while for me to get my car in the UK then.
@paulvadeanu246
@paulvadeanu246 4 года назад
@@tonantos I think that it depends also on how committed the dealer is. Here we have some troubles on this matter. They aren't so happy to sell EVs. In Romania, we have a list at national level of 40 prebookers who will get their preconfigured cars. That's because Hyundai has its own branch opened here. Kia moves far slower. There is a private firm who imports Kia's cars and doesn't have a transparent system for deliveries.
@tongsansage
@tongsansage 4 года назад
Great and informative review. Thinking of making jump from hybrid to full electric. Can't find this question answered anywhere: Does the car or charger make any noise- inverter buzzing, fans etc while charging at home. My garage is right under house first floor. . Thanks
@spacedoutET
@spacedoutET 4 года назад
Subscribed. Very honest video. I own a leaf 30kwh coz it was on offer half price. I wanted to test EVs first and kept my zafira as a backup incase goes terribly wrong. Even though I drive super careful, having the heater on drains the battery like mad. In the mixed driving winter, it's between 70 to 80 miles at its best. 100 in summer. I'd love a higher range, BUT.....as you stated about cost, it's a bit tricky. I like working the exact costs out, compared to petrol and as you stated, it takes years to gain back. The other issue is also down to how far you drive per year. For instance, my neighbours have asked me about my ev and although it's a great drive, they say they hardly do many miles per year, so prefer a cheaper car to just get from a to b. I can't blame them tbh. I mean it's like me buying a Porsche and just parking it on the drive all year. Just not really any saving or point. The only other issue is public chargers, as I can save alot at home, but if I had to travel longer distances daily, then public would be necessary. However, I fear that if they start pushing prices up, they would be too close to petrol. As an example, I pay 15p a mile on diesel at its worst. I pay up to 5p worst in winter on electric leaf. I worked out that if it was to be the same price as my diesel, it would be 44p kwh. Now I know that podpoints about the best in my area at 23pkwh. But ecotricity has put theres up to 39p now. So if I had to go very far, and needed several stops to charge with several waiting times, I'd rather just go with the diesel. Not to mention that alot of people don't even have drives or garages, so are not allowed to have one fitted at home or flats. So no real extra savings there. So I feel that people will eventually buy them, but like everything, the cost has to come down before they bite the bullet. Gr8 video, thanks.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Great post, thanks for the info, and thanks for watching! 😁👍
@nithinjacob7455
@nithinjacob7455 2 года назад
Those bumps in the headlights helps with drag reduction. It’s called vortex generator.
@esprit1st75
@esprit1st75 4 года назад
As for cost calculation you're forgetting that there is virtually NO maintenance cost for the kona ev. No oil changes, wear on brakes is very little because of regenerative breaking. Add that cost to your gas cost of the gas kona and you will break even a lot faster!
@DimitarMihaylovBG
@DimitarMihaylovBG 4 года назад
I think the bumps on the headlights are to deflect wind away from the side mirrors thus reducing aero drag. 1st gen LEAF had similar albeit larger bumps.
@blahblahblack
@blahblahblack 4 года назад
I agree, a few cars over the years have featured headlight shapes supposedly designed to do this, usually they just protude the whole light, but maybe a little bump is enough if it's in exactly the right spot.
@terryjimfletcher
@terryjimfletcher 4 года назад
IIRC Generally they are there to allow the indicator light to be seen from a 45 degree angle to the front of the car, i.e. The opposite side.
@o00scorpion00o
@o00scorpion00o 4 года назад
I drove the 64 Kwh e-soul in Ireland last week, it would get 300-320 Kms at 75 Mph clock speed or 120 Km/hr as we have it here, that was based on the trip comuter reading of 20 Kwh/100 kms, I was very impressed, a lot less wheel spin too than the Kona and it has fantastic lane keep assist which is the most advanced of all the Kia/Hyundai electrics as it's newer, I was very impressed. The e-soul is much quieter inside too, the Kona I found I would need ear plugs it was that bad but perhaps this is down to the tyres. I could estimate 260-270 miles in the E-soul on slower non motorway roads and possibly close to 300 miles in Summer, very impressive.
@MonsterRaz
@MonsterRaz 4 года назад
was hoping to hear you rev it ;) ev's are actually improving a lot since they started appearing on the scene.
@Musketeer009
@Musketeer009 4 года назад
And so's the recharging infrastructure.
@pouleichel426
@pouleichel426 4 года назад
take at look at 2:10 in this kona video and her it revs ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LmVoUThhmfk.html
@antonydanby
@antonydanby 3 года назад
Brilliant little review; better than some of the so called "professionals" ... Thank you ... bought my tickets
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it Tony! Thanks for watching 😁👍
@sprockkets
@sprockkets 4 года назад
I wish you tried a 100kw station, because I want to know if they fixed that for 2020. They capped the old one at 200amps or 75kw because the ccs standard at the time defined those limits.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Sadly no 100kW were available near me at the time. Thanks for watching though! 😁👍
@daniel08october1969
@daniel08october1969 6 месяцев назад
I have this car for the last few months and it’s great. The lumbar support for driver and passenger is great benefit for those who suffer with back pain. You can also raise the height of the seat. However my one complaint is the heating controls. Having buttons instead of dials is a disaster. They are very hard, if not dangerous, to adjust as you are driving. With only the slightest adjustment of the controls you go from skin-burning heat levels to ice-cold air. It very hard to get a happy medium.
@withusmasunda3168
@withusmasunda3168 4 года назад
Great presentation very realistic and closer to home. Is there a mobile battery charger that can be manufactured with these units just to give the ability to do another 50miles out of say 25mins of charging in emergency situations
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 4 года назад
Generally speaking, EVs are MUCH better about warning people they are going to run out of juice than gasoline cars are. And draining the battery down to zero will seriously damage the battery pack and should absolutely be avoided. Most manufacturers recommend keeping it between 10 and 80% charge. But in the case that does happen, you can charge EVs from a standard wall plug, so any publicly available wall plug becomes an emergency 'gas can'. Just keep the cables in the boot.
@MikeIOW2
@MikeIOW2 4 года назад
As others have said, this is the 2019 model, not 2020. Nevertheless, an awesome vehicle (we've done 10k miles in ours now, love it!)
@leswong7801
@leswong7801 4 года назад
0:13 foot got cozy
@ianmurray250
@ianmurray250 4 года назад
1. New 2020 model has replaced the 8" infotainment screen (as seen in this video) with a 10.25", this shows 3 blocks of info rather than the 2 blocks seen in this video. 2. A 100kWh rapid charger gives 80% charge in 55 minutes giving you about the right amount of time you need to have a break. Remember that mostly you charge overnight at home whilst you sleep.
@racekar80
@racekar80 3 года назад
I have the Kia Niro, same car and it does not wheel spin. Chirps the tires and then traction control steps in.
@neilbowness6074
@neilbowness6074 4 года назад
People get hung up on the cost but who actually these days buys a car outright, the finance deals, running costs on a monthly basis such as fuel,road tax and as they are becoming more widespread emission charges,emission free zones and congestion charges are be best way to look at cars these days.
@2cats1guy
@2cats1guy 4 года назад
It’s true. If you have a daily short commute then it’s very expensive. For me, I have 110km commute a day and the cost is the same to own for the first 3-5 years as an equivalent Tucson if you factor in oil changes, etc... except, EVs are more fun to drive, have better tech and will keep their value a lot better at the end of a term. Also, it seems you guys pay a lot more for electricity there. To charge a 64kw battery here is more like $5 per charge at home.
@philh7459
@philh7459 4 года назад
the bubble on light is a side repeter
@johnivarjakobsen6725
@johnivarjakobsen6725 2 года назад
But the cost of service on the petrol is also a must too mentioned
@prashantcc1634
@prashantcc1634 4 года назад
Wht abt the maintenance charges..!! So effectively u would recuperate all the expenses in jst 3-4 years..
@alistairpowers8129
@alistairpowers8129 4 года назад
Sounds really good, my concern would be three or four years down the line, how much would battery replacement cost? also battery performance does degrade over time
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Batteries won’t need replacing, that’s a silly rumour. There are 6yr old Tesla’s driving around with 300,000 miles that are still running at 80% of battery capacity.
@airvisualltd3838
@airvisualltd3838 4 года назад
If by your comments about wheelspin would suggest its bit lighter at the front does that not bode well for icy or slippery road holding ?
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
It’s down to the tyres mainly, but agreed I’d be wanting winter tyres in the colder months.
@jarnohagman3596
@jarnohagman3596 4 года назад
I'm fortuned have had the privilege to own ( company car tho ) and drive one since September. Loved every km which I've driven. What I also would like to point out when taking about costs is the insurance. At least in Finland it's almost the double in price compared to normal Kona.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Interesting, I believe they’re actually less here in the U.K.
@ruedipreiss3654
@ruedipreiss3654 4 года назад
Don't forget it's got also almost double the torque and bhp ...;) and costs more... if you insured a like-for-like ICE car with similar torque and price you'd probably pay more insurance. I am lucky in the UK and our Kona electric insurance is exactly the same as the Ford Fiesta 1.5 TDCi we own as a second car ...
@macaalf8219
@macaalf8219 4 года назад
I test drove one of those, in the dry there is no wheelspin issue at all, in the wet there is a wheelspin issue with any fwd car and that kind of torque, even my Tourneo spins wheels and it has "good" Michelin tyres. It is cheap on the inside and the adaptive cruise control is a nuisance. You forgot the battery "maintenance" issue. The battery needs changing at least once during the car's useful life, which means shelling out about a quarter to a third of the car's buying price each time.
@ruedipreiss3654
@ruedipreiss3654 4 года назад
The adaptive CC is brilliant, 90% of the time I drive with it. Keeps the speed almost on the dot down hill or uphill, slows down towards stationary or slower vehicles and even keeps in lane on 2-way roads/ motorways without the need to hold the steering other than to stop it from complaining after 15 seconds. Sure it's not luxury on the inside but so far (20k miles on teh clock, almost a year) no rattles or squeaks whatsoever and there is no paint flaking off and all the buttons look as good as new.
@tonantos
@tonantos 4 года назад
Title of the video is misleading. This is not the 2020 version. The 2020 premium SE version has the infotainment buttons below the screen, not on the sides. It also has heated seats for the back and not just the front. The car in this video is the 2019/18 version.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Thanks for the info and for watching! 👍
@djnickpeters
@djnickpeters 4 года назад
Not sure if available in the UK but in the US you can receive a rebate and tax credit for purchasing a electric car. This should be figured into over all price when comparing purchase between combustion and electric.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
In the U.K. you get a £3500 discount on first new purchasing of the car. Nothing else really sadly.
@johnmartens4728
@johnmartens4728 4 года назад
If I brought the Kona, I would have to chance the tyres, and that would ad to the cost.
@tbsmith-ht6ej
@tbsmith-ht6ej 4 года назад
@5:36 no red wires visible to the right side (inside) of the charging station. @5:38 red wires visible?
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
The b-roll shots are done at a different time to the talking stuff as I film all this myself. So I tidied it up for the pretty shots. 👍
@esm7708
@esm7708 3 года назад
I'd be interested to know how you'd compare the interior of this to an ID3. I had a bit of a shock getting in an ID3 from my Hyundai Ioniq premium SE.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 3 года назад
Not actually driven an ID.3 yet, but have sat in one and was quite disappointed. Materials felt very cheap especially at the touch points.
@esm7708
@esm7708 3 года назад
@@BOTBreviews exactly. The exposed seat rails were a surprise and everything else felt a bit VW up. It just felt a bit cheap and the specs are baffling. See also the Skoda bizarre a la carte specs. You can buy one relatively cheaply but it’s specced like a Dacia. Err no thanks.
@onenikkione
@onenikkione 4 года назад
Petrol in the USA is $2.19 - $2.60 per gallon or 0.57 - 0.68 cents per liter (3.785 liters = 1 gallon) Currently the best selling vehicles are Full Size Pickup Trucks & SUV's
@Chilukar
@Chilukar 4 года назад
Yes. Sadly there is no attempt to include the externalities into the price. The medical costs of Asthma, cancer, UTI etc caused are borne by the people who suffer them, their employers and families rather than by those who cause it.
@737smartin
@737smartin 4 года назад
True. Do you know that the US GIVES more $$s to subsidize the fossil fuel industry than the entire Pentagon budget every year? We're all actually paying through the nose to keep those prices 1/4 what they would be on the open market!
@mindtravelness335
@mindtravelness335 4 года назад
I wonder what would happen with that front charging port after a minor crash.
@rockbore
@rockbore 4 года назад
Compare the resale value of the electric model after that 7 year period, and the petrol. Your battery may need an upgrade, and there will probably be an even better deal available there. Whereas your petrol model is basically just scrap if it ever gets to 7. EVs have great resale potential and some models have held their original price or even appreciated to some extent, according to anecdotal evidence. Be that as it may, the potential longevity and resale will always be a win for EVs.
@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 4 года назад
I get the impression that licensing and tax laws in the UK discourage operating older vehicles, as their resale values seem quite low to this American. Electric cars are increasingly popular over here but I think it is still a matter of personal preference rather than economics. My 9-year-old gasoline Honda completed a 5400-mile road trip over the holidays, and it doesn't need a thing. Down the road, oil changes and a new catalytic converter will cost far less than a new battery pack for an EV. And good luck finding a charging station in some little town in New Mexico! I don't doubt that EVs will eventually "take over", but their day is not yet.
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 4 года назад
@@danpatterson8009 we get a lot of problems with corrosion due to the salt on the roads here in the UK.. also there is a very useful set of incentives to buy new cars here, grants and cheap finance deals 'PCP'.
@rockbore
@rockbore 4 года назад
@@danpatterson8009 Your total carbon footprint is much smaller than it might've been if you bought an EV. I've heard of petrol engines going twice around the clock. Holding on to an ageing vehicle is definitely greener than buying new, even if it's a change to an EV, to some extent. The question of charging stations is something of a cultural point to my way of thinking. Every electrical outlet is a potential charging point. There is very little reason why a gas station can't offer a charging facility, even though we don't see it happening yet. You are correct that the EV hasn't really arrived, but atleast now most people needing a new family car must surely have to atleast consider the electric option, that's some progress at any rate.
@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 4 года назад
Yes, you can recharge an EV with regular household circuits, just not very fast. Quick charging requires special hardware and special hardware (and electricity) cost money. To provide these things for you, people must have a financial incentive. When your local gas station can make a profit by installing and operating a charging station, they will do so, and probably not before. Free charging stations only exist to jump-start the market, and will not last.
@momckinley
@momckinley 4 года назад
@Eat Jat I've also driven many cars over 150k miles and up the 15 years old. But EVs are so simple that they'll more or less go on for ever. The only problem will be the batteries that will have lost significant range by the time they are 8 or 10 years old. But by then, second hand and much cheaper replacement batteries should be available, and a lot cheaper than a new gas engine. You also have to factor in the long term savings in fuel costs. Also, Tesla are working on a "million mile" battery!
@elguapoguano
@elguapoguano 4 года назад
We seriously considered a Electric Kona. But unfortunately there were two factors that kept us from buying one. 1. in the US this is a compliance car. Not even sold in my State. Closest place to even test drive one was 1,000 miles away (apx 1600 Km). She was able to drive an ICE version to bring us to point 2. She thought it felt like a car for a tiny person.
@toddjohnson5692
@toddjohnson5692 4 года назад
only available in 10 states in the US
@BikeTall
@BikeTall 4 года назад
I cannot wait until electric cars come down in price. My dream car is the electric VW ID Buzz that comes out in 2023. So hopefully by then I will have enough to buy one.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
The next few years the EV market is going to explode, so many new models and technological advances. I’d love the ID.5, the medium sized EV estate, but yeah the Buzz will be amazing too! VW are going to be huge in the EV market soon
@UncleWally3
@UncleWally3 4 года назад
My mechanic explained why brake components should also last much longer on EV’s. Like to hear from others on this . . .
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
It’s a great point. Thanks to the regenerative braking which uses the resistance of the motors to brake the car, you use the mechanical brakes a lot less.
@toddjohnson5692
@toddjohnson5692 4 года назад
Yeah I have an 11 year old hybrid. The brakes look brand new since they are only used in panic stops.
@ruedipreiss3654
@ruedipreiss3654 4 года назад
Just had my 20 k service, front brakes 15%, rear brakes 10% worn. Keep in mind mine is driven by learner drivers (driving school), who don't adjust the recuperation. Hence, the front brakes might be worn at around 120k. Not bad :)!
@dataman8350
@dataman8350 4 года назад
I think that when you reviewers test the legroom in the back and front seats of cars, you should let us know how tall you are. Also it would be convenient to have your feet and miles converted into metric on screen.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
I’ve mentioned my height in every other review, just assumed people would be bored of it by now 😁 I’m 192cm tall. Good suggestion about converting to metric on screen as well. Thanks for watching! 👍
@dataman8350
@dataman8350 4 года назад
@@BOTBreviews I am new to the channel, so I hadn't heard. You could include your height on screen as well, so you don't have to tell us every time. A Good and informative Review by the Way.
@rollingtroll
@rollingtroll 4 года назад
Krell only makes (pre)amplifiers and streamers, so they are being really creative with the branding there. It's a high-end brand for audiophiles that don't do too much research ;). In audiophile worlds Krell stands for; Harsh as it gets. It's not a brand that knows of any subtlety. It's all about 'live' and 'dynamic' and 'energy' and I don't like it, at all. But since they probably only made one component of the head unit and there's nothing Krell about the thing otherwise, it can indeed be quite good. As for the car; you need to drive it for 7 years and then you'll see how much better these cars will have gotten, range-wise. Hmmm.. You'd need a very specific use case to want a car like this right now, unless you are an environmentalist.
@robtheelectric
@robtheelectric 4 года назад
is there a service to charge car if you are caught mid journey?
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Most breakdown services have this now, but with good planning it’s not something you’ll ever need.
@steveco1800
@steveco1800 4 года назад
EVs are definitely getting there. Would love one if I could afford it.
@elliottwadsworth4201
@elliottwadsworth4201 4 года назад
Lease? New BIK rates make them quite attractive.
@sahhull
@sahhull 4 года назад
@@elliottwadsworth4201 They have a way to go... I dont and will never spend more than £1500 on a vehicle
@differenttan7366
@differenttan7366 4 года назад
@@sahhull i reluctantly confirm that your right not to buy an newev. i own an EV which i love but i did a cost comparison with a few cars, a new hatchback a 4 year old hatchback and my wifes car (under 2K). cost wise doing 12k miles a year my EV breaks even on a new car in only 5 years, even on the 4year old hatch its only 7 years but i would need 12 years to catch up to an economical car under 2K pounds even factoring in estimated petrol price hikes. I currently save over a hundred pound a month in running costs over my wife's car but its not enough to make up for the starting price. you cannot beat a well chosen petrol motor at that price, unless your very unlucky . That said at some point todays ev's are gonna be five years old and going for 10K pounds. if electric prices hold then at that point the ev would beat out the 2K petrol over a five years period.
@pilljr.3331
@pilljr.3331 4 года назад
Krell Audio system is worth the price of the entire vehicle... :-)
@-JustHuman-
@-JustHuman- 4 года назад
Just tjek the Kona website, and the fact that you HAVE to buy the power from them even at home is kinda a deal breaker, as we have just seen with Ionity going up 500%, and there is no mention of a guaranty on the battery, like Tesla's 8 year. So how is the thermals in 2 years, and what if it breaks, will it hold it's range and what is the real price saving ? And very little extra things like a hitch or autodrive.
@-JustHuman-
@-JustHuman- 4 года назад
And it looks so old in the interior too, but that is cosmetic, so not a main point.
@aj7618
@aj7618 4 года назад
Nice car
@Kangaroo_Caught
@Kangaroo_Caught 3 года назад
You missed servicing costs for the petrol car.
@dcvariousvids8082
@dcvariousvids8082 4 года назад
“Green, because it’s a green car.” So why does it look of yellow and maybe it should be noted, that the colour is ‘Acid Yellow’.
@Rejuvem
@Rejuvem 4 года назад
A lot of countries have incentives for buying these types of cars as an example here in United States there’s a $7500 incentive for getting the electric car so that would reduce the number of years to recoup your investment by 75%
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
The £37.5k price I quoted actually includes the £3500 U.K. government grant as well. But yeah, I can only work out figures for the U.K. really.
@damonlee226
@damonlee226 4 года назад
The expense comes from the larger battery. Cost cutting on materials is obvious with all the plastics, but you get loads of safety tech, a top of the line daily driver EV car. Reliable, and looks great..You said the seats in the back were too high, and your legs were angled upward too far, when that doesn't make sense...the seats, would need to be positioned even higher , for your legs to level out more. The green color is a new scientifically tested paint, first on the 2016 Civic, which was the best color to repel heat and help kep cooling the down. Not white, as one would think. The Kona made North American SUV of the Year for a reason. But the e-Niro, and e-Soul have the top EV cars , for the price ranges of the rest of the other EVs.
@Submanca
@Submanca 4 года назад
It's interesting how no one talks about this car in the real cold. I have lots of trouble with the moisture in the car frosting the inside of the windows. Not only overnight but while I am driving. Battery in summer has 600Km but in winter 300Km. Very important that you cover the windshield in winter. The front charge cover gets filled with snow and ice while driving and you must cover it while charging. The seat cooling is useless and the heated steering wheel isn't much better.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
I’m guessing you have some serious cold weather then! Sadly I can only test the car in the weather we had, which was cold (3-5*C) but not too severe, I found the heated seats and wheel were fine!
@Submanca
@Submanca 4 года назад
@@BOTBreviews serious cold is right. It's a warm day today at -20C.
@user-jt1jv8vl9r
@user-jt1jv8vl9r 4 года назад
Probably best to lease for now. Wait for the tech to get cheaper.
@talkinghead43
@talkinghead43 4 года назад
Krell, high end audio company
@benedictusparaan3139
@benedictusparaan3139 4 года назад
As opposed to the "Mark Levinson" systems that they had on other premium cars. These names make Bose, JBL, Harman Kardon and even Alpine seem like low budget offerings. There are some Krell amplifiers that cost more than this car.
@huepix
@huepix 3 года назад
When will an e car company utilize capacitors for fast charge, fast draw. Not for a total drive but for something like a 30 or 60 sec acceleration. Capacitors can recharge almost instantly so their regen is ideal. But they can only discharge quickly so they can be used for fast acceleration and then the chemical battery takes over for cruising.
@davidsworld5837
@davidsworld5837 4 года назад
you missed out an electric car road tax is 0 what is it for the car you compared it to in petrol as well as servicing
@heartsparkdollar
@heartsparkdollar 4 года назад
Just wait
@bwcbiz
@bwcbiz 4 года назад
Another cost to consider is maintenance. Electric engines don't need as much regular maintenance (filters/oil change) as gas/petrol.
@adoreslaurel
@adoreslaurel 4 года назад
Can you plug in that charger [bit of an upturned angle] when it is in the rain?
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Yes it’s fine, contacts are far inside
@didierpuzenat7280
@didierpuzenat7280 4 года назад
On the car side, yes. On the infrastructure side no if it is a simple AC home outlet, and yes if it is a DC charger. In any case check the owner manual and be carefull.
@differenttan7366
@differenttan7366 4 года назад
Need to add in some more savings to that cost analysis, zero road tax, no emission charges for going into London and lower maint fees as no oil to change, no belt to adjust, no exhaust to replace, no gaskets to leak. Love my ev when I get in a petrol now they just seem shaky noisy smelly and slow, only drawback is the useable but poor quality fast charging infrastructure.
@bmw803
@bmw803 4 года назад
I don't know where you are, but in the US this shit ain't worth it. Oil changes are about $30 and good for 10,000 miles on some cars. exhaust lasts for years. I never replace any exhaust on my car and even if you do, you don't do it every month. That car starts at close to $40K, while the gas model starts just under 20. The $20K difference will take how long to BREAK EVEN??? It can easily take 10+ years to break even. I'm all for EVs, but at those prices?? No thanks. Not worth it. And if you're in a cold climate like here in Western NY, you lose HALF your range when temperatures drop below 25 degrees.
@jonwang999
@jonwang999 4 года назад
@@bmw803 Quick search online shows lowest end Kona EV starts $37K and lowest end Kona gas car starts $20K. All listed prices. I own a 2013 Leaf and it's now 120k miles (193km), bought new. Back then it was listed as $35K car, after $7.5K federal incentive, $2.5K CA incentive the car was $25K. Comparable Nissan model probably can be had for below $20K. The Leaf in 7 years 120Kmi s, never needed oil change, gas, timing belt, water pump or brakes. I only bought 2 sets of tires (on my 3rd set now) and couple sets of wiper blades and top off wiper fluid once a while. Basically, regular maintenance is close to $0 above what you need to do for comparable gas car. For 120k miles the electricity cost would be around $3K (assuming 4miles per kwh and I pay 10cents/kwh EV rate electricity in California not the cheapest nor the most expensive in the US). I also get free charging at work so half of my electricity is free but that's unique to my situation so I am not going to count that. Comparable gas car for 120kmi the fuel cost would be $12K (assuming 30mpg and $3per gallon, that's low price for CA but above US national gas average). If I use my previous car the Leaf replaces, 2003 Subaru WRX with 2 liter turbo engine that gets just 25mpg and silicon valley gas price of $4 per gallon then the fuel would've cost me $19K. And if I added oil change every 10Kmi ($360), timing belt/water pump at 100Kmi ($600), brake job every 50/60kmi ($600). Total for owning a gas car over 120kmi would be $13.5 to 20K. Not to mention the time cost for going to the gas station (I charge at home, cost me few seconds to plug in every night) and time lost for oil change, service that would add even more cost for owning a gas car. Furthermore, if you ever drive an EV the performance is far better than comparable gas car, the acceleration and quietness. My Leaf feels faster off the stoplight than my WRX, no need to wait for the turbo to spool up to get the punch. That's another untangible cost in favor of EV. Now let's compare owning a Kona EV vs Kona gas. Kona EV, $40K-$10K incentive-$10Kfuel/maintenance savign=$20K. So, off the bat it's already equivalent. If the cost is the same, then the EV is a much better driving experience. Do some math before dismissing owning an EV please. I personally would not get another dino juice burning car ever.
@bmw803
@bmw803 4 года назад
@@jonwang999 Sure, if you live in commiefornia where government charges you taxes to give them back to you as a rebate it might work, but I'm not eligible for that rebate. Obviously it doesnt work for everyone. But the biggest problem is cold weather. If you live in Canada and northern states, your range will be SLAUGHTERED at deep freeze temperatures. You lose half of the battery. Otherwise, I would jump on that car in a heartbeat.
@glennchartrand5411
@glennchartrand5411 4 года назад
Given the lower maintenance costs I think the "Break even" point is actually more like 5 years. Which means EV's are very close to being practical in an economic sense. The good news : If battery prices can come down , especially if the rumors about IBM's new battery are true, then electric cars will become cheaper to operate than petrol. The bad news : Once electric cars become common , it is a certainty that lost fuel taxes will be replaced by charging taxes , so you'll be paying about 35 pounds for a 200 mile charge instead of 10. That will really cut into the savings of owning an EV.
@wobby1516
@wobby1516 4 года назад
Interesting, I’ve owned the Kona Electric for a year now I normally drive in eco mode, I haven’t experienced excessive wheel spin. I don’t crawl around just drive with perhaps a more gentle foot than you and I’m not the old fellow up front holding all the boy racer up.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Quite possibly, plus it was a very cold greasy day when I was filming.
@wobby1516
@wobby1516 4 года назад
In The Headlights You also criticised the camera which puzzles me, I can’t see what’s wrong with it? I get a very good view when reversing and don’t use it to take photos with! so for me at any rate, more than adequate, but I suppose it all a matter of opinion.
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 4 года назад
The wheel spin has come up in a couple of other reviews, and as a Kona EV driver I've experienced it myself a few times as well despite not being an aggressive driver. The car comes with Nexen tyres (at least here in Europe) that apparently are energy efficient, but they are also noisy and have very poor grip; not the best choice for a car that puts out a ton of torque. The car does have traction control but it seems to fail under certain conditions, just for half a sec. Not sure when, maybe when lifting your foot off the gas and then punching down again.
@wobby1516
@wobby1516 4 года назад
Kaasmeester I’m aware that this has been reported before by other bloggers, I too live in Europe and have the same tyre on my Kona and yes if I floor it I can spin the tyres even at 30 mph in the wet., but I can’t say it’s a problem as I don’t drive that aggressively. It’s seems to me that ever blogger makes that it’s a problem, it’s not and never has been, for me at least. As for road holding I’ve not found that a problem either I just drive to suit the road conditions as I sure you do too.
@michaelrch
@michaelrch 4 года назад
Kaasmeester I have had the same problems with the wheel spin in the wet. It only needs to be a bit damp for the tyres to lose grip if you put down a bit too much power. It's especially bad pulling out on corners I've found. I did 20k km in my first summer with the car and my front tyres are already going to need to be changed in the spring. Now I'm on the winter tyres I'm being a bit more careful! I didn't drive aggressively most of the time but I will admit that I would floor it from time to time just for the hell of it. I blame the kids!! "Dad, make the car go whoosh!"
@DorsetSaferRoads
@DorsetSaferRoads 4 года назад
i terms of cost you say that it will take 7 years to get that money back however you ignore the fact that the petrol car will depreciate a lot more.
@RogerKeulen
@RogerKeulen 4 года назад
And after 7 years your fuel consumption will be mutch more. Let's just ignore that for simplicity. Otherwise we can not compare apples and oranges.
@dj2000lbs
@dj2000lbs 4 года назад
Electric cars have even worse depreciating nobody wants a 5 year old EV look at used Tesla's or the best example a used Leaf aint nobody want that garbage leaf no more
@DorsetSaferRoads
@DorsetSaferRoads 4 года назад
@@dj2000lbs erm what? Go look at autotrader.. compare to similar priced ice cars. Then remember that EV are a LOT cheaper to run!
@DorsetSaferRoads
@DorsetSaferRoads 4 года назад
For instance a nice 2014 leaf will cost you about 8k a similar Micra (closest ice Nissan) is about 5k-6k 10k miles will cost you £1800 in fuel vrs about £200 in electricity. Keep the leaf 2 years and you have broken even. Yes the range is low but who seriously goes long distance in a small car? The older leafs make great town run arounds!
@ruedipreiss3654
@ruedipreiss3654 4 года назад
@@dj2000lbs you are quite wrong. The exact opposite is the case
@seanpeacock5595
@seanpeacock5595 4 года назад
Very cold here, 3 to 6 degrees. VERY COLD? Alberta Canada -30 is VERY COLD.
@rexcarolus5874
@rexcarolus5874 4 года назад
North of Sweden is -30 - -40 Celsius in the wintern
@DieAmonRa
@DieAmonRa 4 года назад
Not the 2020. The 2020 has a 10.25" screen, not the 8"
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
I did say it has a 10.25” display....
@DieAmonRa
@DieAmonRa 4 года назад
In The Headlights but this is not the 10.25. The 10.25 has buttons under the screen
@raahilpatel7386
@raahilpatel7386 4 года назад
@@DieAmonRa i don't get what you're saying youre watching a video youre not actually in the car so dont moan about things for no reason... Stop being angry and enjoy the video 😂😂. Honestly
@95ARazaQ
@95ARazaQ 4 года назад
@@raahilpatel7386 Sandy is right, that is definitely not a 10.25 inch screen. looks like a standard 7 inch screen.
@LS-bf7mk
@LS-bf7mk 4 года назад
It looks like a Kona EV Premium 2019. The 2020 has buttons under the screen.
@nightfallfade
@nightfallfade 4 года назад
At 7p per kwh it's going to be about £4 for an overnight charge on Economy 7. Pretty good if you can squeeze 300 miles out of it as some people have. Does that £37k purchase price include the government grant. Hopefully not.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Sadly yes, that includes the £3500 grant!
@decimal1815
@decimal1815 11 месяцев назад
Of course, to get the most out of an EV, you need to adapt your driving style. No more flooring-it at every junction, or heavy braking required as you go round corners. A smoother, more relaxed drive is also more economical. It's actually fun, and your passengers aren't puking up on every journey!
@deelawrence1135
@deelawrence1135 4 года назад
One other cost difference that I'd include would be - how much you are spending while you're waiting the 75mins per charge - that's a lot of coffee and cake if you were at a services which would add up to a fair amount of money.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Very good point!
@bigtom1948
@bigtom1948 4 года назад
How tall are you so I can judge the interior size. Thanks
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
6ft3, so it’s a pretty much worst case scenario.
@skytreker
@skytreker 4 года назад
@@BOTBreviews I was about to ask the same. 0:10 The Car looks tiny next to you LOL
@Elleras1980
@Elleras1980 4 года назад
Watching from the state's. I'm waiting 3 more years to get a nice EV. Can't afford it plus my car has 6 more payments left. EV would be great for me. I drive roughly 60 miles round-trip spend roughly 35 us dollars a week to fill. Range on a full tank 380 to 400 miles.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
The costs are certainly a lot different in the US, mainly because your fuel is so much cheaper than here in the U.K. It costs about $100 to fill an average car up here...
@ojjenkins7110
@ojjenkins7110 4 года назад
Does the UK have the infrastructure to support more electric car chargers especially in the future?
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Yes, they’re being installed at a huge rate. The chargers will be in place before the number of cars on the road increases.
@DorsetSaferRoads
@DorsetSaferRoads 4 года назад
we have been all over the uk in our leaf, there are some black spots in certain areas but with a modern ev you can generally get across them with no issues. check out zap-map.com we did bournemouth, basingstoke, redditch, stoke on trent, alton towers then across wales to lampeter. no major issues with charging, had to plan charging a bit, staying in hotels with chargers at them helped save some time. the only issue we had was that parents dont have a charger so had to use the 10 amp charger to charge up when we were there. we have a 30amp charger at home, the 10amp "granny cable" is horribly slow but it does work
@iRMacMan
@iRMacMan 4 года назад
So the rear camera is "rubbish" you say. Why is it rubbish? As this is a review; would appreciate your information on the shortcomings of the device. Thanks...
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
I’ve answered elsewhere, but it’s not a great resolution and the location and aero of the car means it gets incredibly dirty very quickly rendering it useless.
@iRMacMan
@iRMacMan 4 года назад
@@BOTBreviews Good points. Especially the one about the exposed position of the camera lens. I currently have 2017 VW Golf which hides the camera behind the hatchback badge. A simple, elegant and 100% effective solution. Can't imagine why every manufacturer doesn't do something similar. Thanks for the clarification.
@eds6889
@eds6889 4 года назад
Odd you would say you get more road noise. You of course do not get more road noise when the engine noise is removed.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
You’re being somewhat picky there - no you don’t get *more* road noise, but the road noise is more noticeable.
@markgaudie80
@markgaudie80 4 года назад
Regardless of price I’d still choose the electric over the crappy petrol version purely for the better driving experience.
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 4 года назад
That will always be a personal choice. I like that this is one of the few videos on fully electric cars that gives an honest view on the pro's and contra's. The price difference for instance will be a huge deterrant for a lot of potential electric car owners for some time, especially if it takes up to 7! years for an owner to "earn back" his/her investment. That all being said I am pleasantly surprised that this is a "normal" car with "normal" performance that has quite a range. Because let's face it: cars from high end car manufacturers like Tesla will be out of range for average car owners for some time to come. The Tesla Model 3 is a nice step in the right direction, but it's cars like this that show there is still an upward movement in electric car development for the cheaper segment. The major deterrant is still sadly the battery tech, that despite all the brain power thrown at it still seem sto be bogged down at relatively speaking the same level as a couple of years ago. But cars like this show that when they manage to crack that final nut, the ICE powered cars may fade out quite quickly.
@demus8757
@demus8757 10 месяцев назад
What is so nice about heated steering wheel and seats? I don't want that and if the car should have it (there is no way to choose a version which doesn't have it) I would never use it. Using electricity for something which is not needed. Grab the wheel for a few seconds and it feels warm already, same with the seat which wil heat up because you sit on it.
@verygoodbrother
@verygoodbrother 10 месяцев назад
Takes less energy to heat up your body via the steering wheel and seat than heating the whole cabin. Works for me but I suspect it's not something you want.
@reiniernn9071
@reiniernn9071 4 года назад
I do not live in the UK. Here in the netherlands I do not pay the monthly road tax (saving 600 euro a year) , reduced energy price about the same is in the UK and a reduced maintenance price because electric. In the first year, stiil 2 weeks to go, I've made 28500 KM or about 17700 UK miles. I've made the same calculations and will earn back the extra costs for buying in 4-5 years time....(140000 km is break even ). This without taking in account other tax facilities (income taxes every year 2500 euro less, and an extra 9000 less the year of buying) for driving electric in the Netherlands , which reduces the earning back time to less than two years. In 5 years 21500 euro less income taxes to pay....thats even more than the difference in price between the petrol version and electric version. This income tax arrangements are changed since 2018...it' s now less advantage.
@gordondaniels9718
@gordondaniels9718 4 года назад
not a criticism but an observation put your mike in the middle a bit lower as your voice goes down when you turn your head from a person who has a hearing problem excellent review btw
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Good to know 👍 and thanks!
@alexstdenis514
@alexstdenis514 4 года назад
Change title please, this is 2019 model. Thx
@asimovone
@asimovone 4 года назад
Dont forget that the electric car does not need a oil change so servicing is much less.
@johndoyle4723
@johndoyle4723 4 года назад
Also no VED, zero congestion charge,and brake pads and rotors last a long time if you use regen. I am awaiting delivery of a Kia eniro.
@737smartin
@737smartin 4 года назад
TRUE! The "fuel" savings are far from the whole story. Factoring in maintenance brings the "payoff" time down from 7 years. Many municipalities often have incentives, too. In the USA, there's a federal $7500 one, for example.
@owenshiverdecker6999
@owenshiverdecker6999 4 года назад
True, but in 6 to 8 years you need to replace the battery pack for five or six thousand, plus no one but the dealer will work on them if there are problems due to the risk of electrocution
@johndoyle4723
@johndoyle4723 4 года назад
@@owenshiverdecker6999 Yes you are right about the lack of independent service agents, but the market will evolve. The batteries, well I am now in my 7th year with a PHEV and only slight deterioration, the batteries have probably done 50,000 miles of use. I used to get 30 miles from a full charge, now maybe 27 miles. Some old toyota Hybrids are still working well after 10-15 years. The Nissan Leaf had a bad battery set up. I am an early adopter and will take the risk, just waiting for my Kia eniro.
@KevinLyda
@KevinLyda 4 года назад
@@owenshiverdecker6999 Data from earlier generation EVs shows the battery life is at least a decade. And since then there have been improvements in how batteries are made and maintained.
@ratulbanerjee7042
@ratulbanerjee7042 4 года назад
I believe we should also take into consideration that the maintanence on an electric car over a period of 5 years is also much less than its petrol counterpart.
@davidbittner4674
@davidbittner4674 4 года назад
Absolutely. As is so common, they've ignored the substantial savings in repairs and maintenance... especially as the cars get older. ICE vehicles are somewhat well known for falling apart faster as they age and while I'm sure that will also apply to EV's, there are simply fewer parts to fail... even brake systems require less maintenance due to regenerative braking.
@davidbittner4674
@davidbittner4674 4 года назад
@j j 2021 while it depends on how the vehicle is used and how the vehicle is charged, you can expect at least 10 years battery life. If the vehicle is used commercially (very high mileage) and 'rapid' charged daily, you'll get faster battery deterioration, same as the components in a commercially used ICE vehicle. Currently, it costs a little more to replace a battery than a modern engine, depending on size and supplier. That cost is rapidly falling. Rapid charging, while convenient on long trips, should not be used regularly as it can, currently, reduce battery life. Best option is to charge overnight at home or use a not-so-fast charger at a shopping centre while you do your shopping. 'Used' batteries also can be repurposed for another 10+ years and then recycled very efficiently.
@shashiy4545
@shashiy4545 4 года назад
@@davidbittner4674 are we going to ignore the higher insurence payments for electric cars.... ?
@davidbittner4674
@davidbittner4674 4 года назад
@@shashiy4545 if you compare insurance premiums for an ICE vehicle of similar value, you should see similar prices. As the insurance industry becomes more familiar with EV construction, any price difference will be based on the same factors as they are now; driver age, experience, history, probable parts cost and other variables. Keep in mind that there are substantially fewer internal components and many EV's have very few components up the front of the vehicle, unlike ICE vehicles.
@shashiy4545
@shashiy4545 4 года назад
@@davidbittner4674 how can that be.. evs are more expensive to begin with so the insurance will be higher.... so people must wait atlest 10 more years to see if evs will ever be the same cost as ice... why the hurry? buy a used honda civic for 10k and save all that extra money in insurance as well as the vehicle cost... and use the money to buy gasoline..
@crimping1
@crimping1 4 года назад
42000 Euro for the electric Kona where I am in the world or 16000 Euro for Petrol version. You can buy a lot of Petrol for the 26000 Euro price difference.
@ruedipreiss3654
@ruedipreiss3654 4 года назад
If you do the maths, you'll realise that the Kona Electric costs significantly less over the typical lifetime of the car than e.g. an ICE Fiesta. To be precise, whilst I'd pay £50.000 for a Fiesta 1.5 TDCi Titanium incl diesel, tax and increased service costs over 200.000 miles included, the Kona Electric costs me £37.800 (64kWh Premium, purchased before the slight price increase and if I went for a Premium SE after price increase it still would be £6-7000 cheaper than the Fiesta. Best of all, I wouldn't burn 20.000 (or more) litres of fuel in the lifetime of the car! AND, the Kona Electric so far has retained its value FAR better than a Fiesta over the same mileage. (As a driving school I have both - Fiesta has cost just over £20k new, after 20k miles and a year old worth just over £11k, the Kona has cost £33k, now after 20k miles and a year later I still get just under £30k for it = appr. £6000 better off only after 1 year!
@guitarbackingtracks4386
@guitarbackingtracks4386 4 года назад
Just to add, the servicing cost is significantly less too, less than a third the ICE equivalent.
@BOTBreviews
@BOTBreviews 4 года назад
Indeed, as ever I did cover that aspect but it had to be left out of the edit or it would have been 20mins long! Significantly less servicing, including very little brake wear!
@guitarbackingtracks4386
@guitarbackingtracks4386 4 года назад
In The Headlights just had winter tyres fitted for a journey to Germany (1800km of blissful driving), the brake discs look new after 14000km, I think they and the pads will last the life of the car. Just as a second note, the standard fit tyres are ok in the summer but awful in winter, Crossclimates fitted now, car is much quieter and sticks to the road like glue.
@court2379
@court2379 4 года назад
I think the bigger problem will be the paint chalking in 3 years, and seals rotting off in less than 5 and generally degradation issues with all polymer compounds used in Hyundai vehicles.
@ruedipreiss3654
@ruedipreiss3654 4 года назад
Is that why Hyundai offer 5 years warranty with unlimited mileage on the car and Ford only 3 years / 60000 miles :D?
@issiewizzie
@issiewizzie 4 года назад
Kia and Hyundai have really come far from 15 years ago
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