You should consider including Mario Party DS in this series! The other handheld games play very differently from the console games, but DS is a very authentic offering of the series’ formula and spirit in handheld form. That said, I wouldn’t mind hearing your ramblings about all of the other handheld titles as well. Looking forward to this series! Love your stuff!
When people who claim that this series especially their distaste for the first time for being too random and rng with very little skill, don't realize that improvising, adaptation and planning are all extremely important skills and arguably more important than, "skill"(whatever that's supposed to insinuate). Working around and adapting to the rng is the skill! This is a skill based series because as shown, often unintentionally, gamers have made multiple routes and contingency and planned ahead turns down the road and have adapted and taken advantage of opportunities from the random and lucky that occurs! You never win based on luck as much as you think! The hidden block as an example is totally random but we know it only appears on two blue space until it is revealed and place on an unoccupied blue space. Totally luck based until you start paying attention to all the blue spaces you and the other players have been stepping on to then start narrowing down the remaining blue spaces that haven't been landed on to then target those to secure the hidden block star, congratulations you used observation and deductive reasoning and process of elimination which are all skills to find the hidden blocks! this is a skill based series more than it is luck based and it always has been!
Massive disagree about Boo. Imo Boo is the one saving grace for players who get unlucky with stars and just end up with a bunch of coins and not enough time to buy stars with them. If the game's economy is working correctly, paying Boo to steal a star should be a serious cost, but one that can be afforded by those players who haven't been able to buy stars the normal way. The only other thing players who get star screwed have is buying whatever the game's version of the Golden Pipe is. This is fine, but depending on the game these are either WAAAAAY too cheap and easy to get or a lot harder to get your hands on due to RNG. Boo's are the one mechanic that players with low stars but high coins can actually count on using to make a comeback.
I think these games should also be ranked by how much it wastes your time! Little and unnecessary animations, loading times, etc etc. The last one I played on the switch could have REALLY been trimmed a LOT.
Watching this immediately after doing a rewatch of Zoomzike's Identifying Luck series on Mario Party to learn all the competitive aspects of Mario Party is perhaps the greatest tonal whiplash this platform has to offer. Cannot wait to hear Seer rip my favorite MP game apart in the next installment. 😎
42:56 Should probably clarify: This applies to every board that has a moving star space, making long games on DK's, Luigi's, Bowser's and ESPECIALLY Wario's have literal minefields of 7 chance time spaces on the board at once most of the time
Mario Party DS definitely belongs in this kind of series; it’s very similar to the console games, with a bit more focus on single player for obvious reasons, but it’s very much a real Mario Party, unlike Mario Party Advance… I don’t know anything about the rest of the handhelds. Anyway, thank you for making this series, I love your videos and I love Mario Party, though more watching other people play it. Certain aspects are a lot better on that front; Chance Time nonsense and Boo psychological wars are definitely more appealing when they can’t screw you. I am very curious to see what you’ll think of the car games. On a related note, if you want to know the specifics on how everything in these games work, I would recommend the “Identifying Luck” series of videos by Zoom Zike, where he goes into such detail that you would think he bet his soul to the devil on each game.
Sometimes the Boos can be lifesavers. Sometimes you just have bad luck and all stars spawn in front of the other players, or you get close and some BS throws you off. I lost count of how many games I've BARELY won or got in 2nd place JUST from hoarding coins and stealing from the lucky ones lol. Like, getting 2 or 3 stars ONLY by stealing cause it was IMPOSSIBLE to nab them first hahaha (oh, and often times losing anyway lol)
Getting ass-blasted by Bowser is a crucial part of Mario Party, but they finally let him play the game in the recent one and somehow still made him the bad guy also. You can now be ass-blasted by Bowser while playing as Bowser, imagine what that does to a guy/turtle's perceptions of reality. At the risk of being Person #24601 who tells you about it, there's a series on here that goes over the inner workings and mechanics of the various Mario Party games, so you can actually see the math and statistics (or lack thereof, sometimes the games are just being a dick) behind the exact fuckery you're experiencing in the game at whatever moment.
Seer doing Mario Party is a welcome surprise, what I wouldn't give (it be balls, befitting the scenario) to see Seer berating others playing one of the Mario Party's.
My best friend, my little brother, my cousin and I played the N64 Mario Party games together for hours and hours and hours apiece, but MP1 was the one we played the most, and I do think it is the best...but my hand to god I forgot Wario's Battle Field or whatever was even a map/board. It doesn't matter how annoying any of the other maps are, they're still more fun than going in stupid circles over and over and over again for fifty damned turns. And we played MP1 so much we invented competitions/game modes, like the REAL winner of Rainbow Castle was whomever got the most Black Stars from Bowser.
I love all your videos, Seer, especially for games like this that I only know a little about. It's like I know *just* enough to get what is supposed to be happening, and then your commentary comes outta left field.
ARPGs are probably my favourite genre but so stoked to see you take on some new types of games. This video is hilarious and excited for the rest of the series!
I havent played a Mario game since i was learning what balls were. The Thwomp impression at around the 10mimute mark was perfectly accurate to my memory. Seer gets Ass teir for every video.
There was something nostalgic about having a hole in my hand from rotating the joystick in this game. Brought me back to resisting the pain from the blisters on my knuckles while testing my might in mk
I remember back in grade school playing this at friend's sleepovers. I always got the controller without a control stick. Took me about a decade and a half to realize these people weren't my friends. Jokes on them I have working palms.
for mario party 1's rotating stick minigames(including the 2 unwinnable ones in tug-o-war+Pedal Power): 14:42 Cast aways is deff a weird coin collector game, where the more chests gained the more coins are earned. I like this minigame, but was always baffled learnin how people somehow still used the palm method for this when the thumb method was literally all that's needed. cuz this minigame, alongside Paddle Battle, just have this weirdly completely different stick rotating scheme control-wise as to how it wants you to rotate compared to tug-o-war+Pedal Power where those 2 demand a stricter rotation 22:14 tug-o-war is deff one of the worst mario party minigames in the series, as without the palm method its literally impossible to win, even against easy cpus. this's only 1 of the 2 unwinnable stick rotating minigames, which also locks people out of minigame island entirely. it really doesn't help the bought tug-o-war back twice. the best move is to Legit not play tug-o-war at all if its chosen or is picked for Bowser minigame. I deff think it should've been remade into button masher, cuz at least it'd be kind of fair. but I understand why its still a stick rotator. 23:17 I can absolutely confirm the palm method was never needed for paddle battle whatsoever, it can be won w/just the thumb method no problems at all. granted it could depend on the difficulty level of cpus as well. it may be the longest of the stick rotators in mp1, but at least its winnable w/o needing to use the palm method at all. 27:27 Pedal Power's another basically unwinnable minigame and is the last of the unwinnables if one relied on the thumb method. its one where, at least the palm method makes sense considering how the minigame looks like, but its also, sadly, the 2nd and last minigame which also can lock people out of minigame island entirely.
Fun fact: In response to a $75k lawsuit that Nintendo mitigated regarding palm blisters due to the five minigames revolving around rotating the joystick, they offered four Harbinger fingerless weight-lifting gloves to any family that provided proof-of-purchase of MP1
Love the entire series except for the one with the car and the disappointment that was the first switch title. I'm so happy they went back to the classic formula.
Really looking forward to seeing more of this seeries! Been watching from the beginning but never been early enough on a video to comment or had anything worthwhile enough to say until now lol. You've always got a great mix of informed, objective analysis and hilarious subjective shit flinging (I mean this in the best possible way lol), so this is definitely gonna be a fun one. I saw someone else brought up Mario Party DS and you added it to the list, so I don't have to bring it to your attention. Also, obviously the main draw of the videos is gonna be your subjective experiences and opinions, and of course the humor as well, but if you're looking for material to help you with the "objective analysis" part of the videos, the Identifying Luck series by ZoomZike is a great watch. Super in-depth and well researched videos about how every facet of each of the Mario Party games work on an observable gameplay level. Highly recommend for getting inspiration or using for reference on certain aspects of the games that you want to learn more about for your own videos.
i fully agree with most of the minigames (and MP1 being the best MP) but hey, those bowser 1v3 games were great BECAUSE they are so toxic, like fuck yes ill target my dad and ONLY my dad in the bowling one, no matter if both other players could be hit with the shell, I WILL MESS YOU UP DAD love ya dad, always good fun playing Mario Party with him
I always wanted to play this with a group of people, it looked like it could be so much fun but when I finally got to get some people to play with I was so incredibly underwhelmed and we were soooo bored, we tried like 3 different Mario Party games and it just felt so pointless and boring, I think the only way you make these games fun is with a full party and a lot of alcohol
Surprising to see this series since it'll end at the 2nd video because Mario Party 2 is peak Mario Party. /j, but, Iconic music, minigames, boards, and style. The Nostalgia, even when it's all out still lets the game hold up extraordinarily well, and i don't really see any other Mario Party Topping it. 3 and 4 are both good, and DS is very very good, but something about the charm of 2, and maybe it's just sequel bias, but i love it to death. Also, if you want to have a game in this series to absolutely shit all over and get your swears out at, add 'the Top 100' Mario Party game to the list! It's easily considered the worst of them all. Some other ones that are off the beaten path would be Mario Party Advance, Mario Party: Island Tour Mario Party: Star Rush, and Mario Party-e which used the old E-reader. Unsure if that one could even get footage...Hell you could even include offshoots in a bonus episode. Classics like Fortune Street, Sonic Shuffle, Chef's Luv Shack, Cartoon Network Block Party, Shrek Super Party, Crash Bash, Fusion Frenzy or even modern stuff like Garfield Lasagna Party or Pummel Party. Great vid, Seer, excited for the follow-ups to this one!
I would at least recommend the gba and DS one. The first got overly and unfairly hated, while the second is barely known but very fun. I'm not really familiar with the 3DS ones thought. But they are from the Wii U Mario Party era style wise of experimentations.
I wouldn’t mind you including the handhelds but hey it’s you’re series, you do you I know I included them when I did my own marathon of the series not too long ago,
