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RugbyPass Offload hosts Hamish Watson, Simon Zebo & Christina Mahon joined Kurtley Beale as they discussed Finn Russell and his chances for the British & Irish Lions against Sout Africa.
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@stodd222 3 года назад

This has aged very well.

@johnpollock7952 3 года назад

Shows how much most of the people that have responded to this know about rugby

@abloccd 3 года назад

Beale is a quality player, big respect from NZ

@blakeroff9205 3 года назад

As a kiwi i have always liked Beal. He can play 10 through to 15 at International level, has flare and never let ego get the better of him, much respect!

@Allyphant2909 3 года назад

Russell's territorial kicking game is the best of the potential Lions 10s. It's not just that he should be in because of the razzle dazzle, his pinning the opposition back with the boot is the best of the lot, too.

@peterwilson675 3 года назад

I disagree. His kicking from hand has been really hit and miss this year. I’d have him as 10 for the Lions because he’d be the most exciting player to watch.

@cal11builder51 3 года назад

@@peterwilson675 you clearly didn’t watch the six nations pal

@peterwilson675 3 года назад

Several missed penalties to touch and I lost count of the number of times he needlessly (and inaccurately) kicked the ball away with penalty advantage. I’m a big Russell fan but he had a quiet 6 nations. In fact I don’t believe there was a standout performance from any fly-half this year.

@Allyphant2909 3 года назад

@@peterwilson675 Scotland's entire attacking game is built on Russell and Hogg making teams play in their 22. The England game, the France game, and the 50mins where Scotland were battering Wales were the best territorial rugby played in the 6N by miles. Another thing is that not all Russell's attacking kicks come to fruition but that's not necessarily always what he is trying for. The variation in kicks messes with the opposition defensive shape. Even if he gives possession away with the odd chip or grubber, that's ok. As the game goes on defences say 'He has kicked for touch, kicked for distance, kicked cross field, chipped, and grubbered... what do we set up to cover?'. It's the long game of keeping things varied. A chip to nothing in the 7th minute might be what makes the defence go narrow in the 24th that makes space to play wide. The bottom line is that if Russell wants you to have a defensive lineout on your 5m ten times a game, you'll have a defensive lineout on your 5m ten times a game. You have a point about the missed touch penalties. He did drop a couple of clangers there.

@peterwilson675 3 года назад

The England game felt much more comfortable than the score line suggests and you’re right, I thought Scotland would be putting a record score on Wales based on the first 60 mins. The France game though... that was excruciating and the only way the win was ever going to be possible was if France didn’t turn up or threw in a classic French brain fart. I’m a sucker for a miracle pass and running rugby so I was very happy where the game was a few years ago with teams like Glasgow, Scarlets, Wasps etc... even Racing the season before the pandemic. It seems to me that teams have been forced into excessive territorial battles by the rule changes at the ruck. It’s virtually impossible to avoid giving a penalty away by throwing the ball around for fear of getting too isolated.

@Malky24 3 года назад

I think with the Lions and the pack they'd have you'd see Finn doing what he does for Racing on a weekly basis. He has detractors on here but ask the French what they think of him. Quite a few think he's the best player in the Top 14.

@Zomo1553 3 года назад

The excuse with Finn is that he does crazy shit which goes wrong and costs you games. As a Scotland fan who’s genuinely fairly unbiased, I can’t remeber the last time Finn cocked something up but didn’t do something amazing right after to make up for it. This six nations he made like 3 errors. The red card was very meh. I’d rather have a ten who can go and win you a game than have a ten who won’t lose it if you get me

@Zomo1553 3 года назад

Also yeh, u give Finn the lions pack and backs it’s gonna be tries everywhere

@usarugbyleagueunionfan 3 года назад

I wear Union and League jerseys everywhere. 95% of people don't know the difference between the codes. There's a real fascination with Rugby by Americans. NBA ratings have tanked and NFL is not what it used to be. MLR has so much potential. Tailgating will make the experience the best. Come to MLR Kurtley! 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇦🇺

@patrickjacobs8417 3 года назад

Kurtley great respect from South Africa.

@bradleypenrith 3 года назад

You mean from you. South African doesn't want to be associated.

@rob.1 3 года назад

Fascinating decision either way isn't it? You could see Gatland picking any one of 4 at 10...which is probably more of an indication that none of them are bang on form delivering consistent performances. The edge Sexton, Biggar and Farrell have over Russell is that they have won things. Slams, European trophies, domestic leagues. I just think Gatland likes a 10 he can get a precise game plan out of. Not sure you can guarantee that with Finn. Looking forward to it whoever plays.

@bocabrownjunior 3 года назад

Agree

@channelbree 3 года назад

Pretty sensible to take Biggar and Russell that's enough talent at 10, leaving plenty of options elsewhere on the pitch.

@c0222 3 года назад

I'm Scottish but I'd probably take Farrell or Sexton as well, if one of the 2 you've suggested gets injured, the other would have to play every minute of every game.

@CptXXXEvilXXXFluff 3 года назад

@@c0222 I'd take Farrell just for the cover for 12 as well, plus past experience shows he's allowed to throw shoulders at South Africans without getting penalised haha

@nickjohns1192 3 года назад

Id like to see our sexton play but the lad has been hit so hard n takin so many hits to the head i dont see him lasting the full tour without being put to sleep in a massive tackle. Farrell hasnt played much the last year n had a piss poor 6 nations. I see a Welsh or a Scotsman playing at 10. The way Scotland played this year id love to see a few of them finally get a look in

@Peter-qx3tg 3 года назад

No matter who you want to be the starting lions out half. I think we all can agree that it should not be Farrell

@Zomo1553 3 года назад

Can’t wait for Farrell to play beside Finn at 12 and just be educated 😂

@stodd222 3 года назад

@@Zomo1553 Best place for Farrell is in the stands. He makes everyone around him play worse - so ideally put him among the SA subs.

@ewansmith5558 3 года назад

It’s Ryan Wilson, not Hamish Watson. Sloppy.

@LB_die_Kaapie 3 года назад

Tailgating has been the norm in South Africa before games lol Nothing new.

@rob.1 3 года назад

Not a Gatland 10. No chance of starting a test. He'd have to surpass his very best for 3 warm-up games to get into that 23.

@jlm4455 3 года назад

Well, this proved to be a post of someone without a clue how Russell has matured and improved as a 10. Next time instead of tossing lazy BS? Actually watch the man play.

@magnumpi8097 3 года назад

Who is that fine lady there amongst these lads.

@brianwelbourne9896 3 года назад

Gatland will probably choose all welsh players being so biased

@nickjohns1192 3 года назад

Prob because he personally knows the quality the Welsh bring. England had a piss poor 6nations. Alot of English lads didn have much playing time the last year. Hel take a few irish lads but i hope after a great 6nations the Scots had i love to see a few of them get a look in

@andrewkelly7065 3 года назад

ROG says sexton should start at 10 good enough for me

@stodd222 3 года назад

ROG is as negative as Gatland. La Rochelle backs do very little, considering the ball they get. Don't understand how he has any sort of reputation, especially considering he's not even LR head coach.

@MACCA0405 3 года назад

ROG and BOD say their pal is great. Irish pundits and fans are the new Wales Online. And the Irish believe them.

@ciaranhickey5904 3 года назад

Good luck with that 😂

@jlm4455 3 года назад

This didn't age well did it, Ciaran? Oops.

@tommyc5341 3 года назад

Well of course he's gonna say that, they're teammates. Biggar and Sexton are way ahead in terms of what you want against SA.

@stodd222 3 года назад

This hasn't aged well.

@MACCA0405 3 года назад

I was going to say that aged well but just read the next comment. Just watched Russell’s highlights from his first season at Racing. If you put together the best clips of Biggar, Sexton and Farrell for 5 years collectively it wouldn’t be as good. Next thing Tommy is you will say LW is a good player.

@tommyc5341 3 года назад

@@MACCA0405 LW?

@MACCA0405 3 года назад

@@tommyc5341 Liam Williams

@niallormond6972 3 года назад

The fact Finn Russell was trying a drop goal Vs England almost giving possession back to England at the end of their game will go against, him crazy shit like that , imagine in a lions test they're up by 5 points they're in the opposition 22 one minute left , all they've to do is keep pick and going to seal it , he tries a drop goal and gives possession back to South Africa and they end up winning

@c0222 3 года назад

tbf when you attempt a drop kick at goal and the ball goes dead, it's a 22m dropout so you'd get possession back anyway.

@keefy3517 3 года назад

Drop goal while Hogg was off for 10 mins. Wasted a large chunk of time getting the ball back to be kicked off and regain possession, to then continue to run the clock down until the sin bin had reached ten mins.

@scottnimmo4437 3 года назад

That was time wasting they get the ball back instantly after that from the 22 drop out they made ground and got Hogg back on ur really not smart

@AlwaysAC 3 года назад

Haha wit? Drop goal is the perfect way to waste time, since it’s a 22 drop out. Scotland got the ball back, in the exact same territory, but two full minutes closer to the end of the game

@niallormond6972 3 года назад

@@scottnimmo4437 I'm talking about the drop goal attempt by Russell in the very last minute of the game where it was charged down and almost recovered by England

@brianmsahin 3 года назад

I can't agree with that tagline. Finn is a great player but too inconsistent.

@jlm4455 3 года назад

This is boring BS and totally wrong. Russell has been consistently one of the best 10s in the NH for 3-4 years. Yes he makes mistakes but guess what? So does Owen Farrell, Johnny "temper tantrum" Sexton and even Biggar. Rugby media loves to paint Russell as a 0 sum player: either brilliant or terrible and of course you fell for it. Yet the actual evidence on the field? Shows that simplistic stereotype to be complete rubbish. The irony is all the other 10s even Biggar have had the luxury of playing behind a good pack. Until very recently for Scotland Russell was playing behind a pack that struggled to win front foot ball. Yet? Russell still produced. That is something when it comes to Farrell and Sexton I have rarely if ever seen. They are completely reliant on front foot ball. Farrell especially, without it? He falls apart, kicks aimlessly, lacks any creativity and becomes a liability.

@Number9s 3 года назад

Russell is too unpredictable for Gatland, in my view. Biggar, Farrell and Sexton are more in Gatland's "grind them down first, then grind them down again, then use the flair if really necessary" style of play. Plus Russell's tackling and temperament is suspect and the Sarfies will run at him all day. I'd take Callum Sheedy before Finn Russell.

@weewee2169 3 года назад

he showed you

@Number9s 3 года назад

@@weewee2169 Yep - Russell in Sexton out. Surprising.

@weewee2169 3 года назад

@@Number9s ahahaha yeah it’ll be good fun

@jlm4455 3 года назад

Wow this is some seriously biased BS. Russell is so much better than Sheedy it doesn't bear thinking about. BTW how did that grind them down thing work out? Russell btw tackles better than Farrell and has the same tackle comp rate that Biggar does. It helps to do some research before opening your ignorant maw. Russell is also so much more creative than any 10 you mentioned. Farrell and Sexton need a dominant pack and front foot ball. Without out? They morph into extremely limited players that offer little but desperate aimless tactical kicking and temper tantrums.

@jlm4455 3 года назад

@@Number9s No it wasn't. Farrell going on the tour was far more surprising. OF hasn't had a good game since the WC SF.

@brentmeistergeneral6074 3 года назад

He’s a proven liability. I don’t think he’s on the plane. Sexton and Biggar with Farrell (as a 12 but covering 10, prob on bench as utility).

@andrewsmith8374 3 года назад

Farrell is a massive liability, little discipline and always tackling with no arms. Also no plan B

@osr4152 3 года назад

@@andrewsmith8374 That is such an overused and unjust criticism. Yes he has had moments of petulance and poor / illegal tackles. But in 9 years I cant think of many times his discipline has cost his team dear a la Hartley red cards in premier final.

@peacemaker6662 3 года назад

@@osr4152 So your point is.. 'he hasn't been penalised for his indisgetions, so who cares'? really is that your point?

@osr4152 3 года назад

@@peacemaker6662 My point is his supposed disciplinary issues are exaggerated: in 92 appearances for England he has 2 yellow cards and 0 red cards; in 198 appearances for Saracens he has 6 yellow cards and 1 red card; in 4 Lions appearances he has 0 cards. So can hardly be called a liability. BTW Finn Russell has circa 50 caps for Scotland, with 3 yellow cards and 1 red card so actually a worse record than Farrell. I am not saying that on current form Farrell will make the lions, only that it is unfair to call him a 'liability' given he has successfully pulled the strings for England and Saracens for 9 years and has only been sent off once.

@brentmeistergeneral6074 3 года назад

@@osr4152 Farrell will defo go as Gats trusts him from previous tours and he’s still a world class player. Thing is, Russel was a massive liability in the 6 nations and some of Scotland’s best, well managed rugby, was when he wasn’t on the pitch!

@johnmccormack2046 3 года назад

Sexton way outscored the rest in six nations with 1 less game played but we are talking about an unreliable place kicker and inconsistent field kicker in Russell at 10? Lol

@jlm4455 3 года назад

The same Sexton that had a temper tantrum v Wales and completely fell apart? That Sexton? Yikes.

@motomoto8383 3 года назад

No way should he start. Very hit and miss. On a good day can walk into any team in the world. On a bad day he’s ghostly and very mundane. And he’s a scot so gats won’t like him anyway

@lewtube1099 3 года назад

He should start

@DoddyIshamel 3 года назад

He is less ghostly and mundane than any of the other 10s having a bad day at least he tries, Sexton and Farrell both go in a huff. Biggar is the best of the 10s when things are not going well to be honest.

@locominyana8916 3 года назад

@@DoddyIshamel I agree. When Wales played down here in 2016, they got creamed, but him JJ, & Talupe, were outstanding in all 3 tests.

@motomoto8383 3 года назад

@@lewtube1099 hasn’t proven anything. Sexton Farrell and biggar all have. He’s capable of making errors that swing test results, unlike the other 3 who have all won things and are proven.

@motomoto8383 3 года назад

@@DoddyIshamel but he has a lot more bad days than any of the others. And biggar stroppy makes sexton look polite

@qwerty69600 3 года назад

Completely disagree. If we can have the beast mode Finn then sure, but he's really unreliable. Flashes of genius followed by cocky errors. And it's not like it's 9 parts genius for every 1 part error either.

@Melchett4805 3 года назад

Who's your pick?

@DoddyIshamel 3 года назад

He has been more reliable than any of the other options over the last 2 years.....

@daniel-im4yz 3 года назад

@@Melchett4805 biggar for his consitency

@evnstillk1007 3 года назад

I think it comes down to the coaching. You see him at Racing, and he’s brilliant. Townsend has him playing a more safe game this Six Nations. Russell’s kicking territory was beyond amazing this year. I think under Gatland, we could get the mix of Racing and mix of Scotland’s kicking. The unfortunate thing for Finn is he’s often relied upon to do something amazing to generate a try from Scotland. Where at Racing, he throws a bit of flair and the boys outside him are given that responsibility which works better for Russell’s game.

@Melchett4805 3 года назад

@@daniel-im4yz Biggar is a solid choice but he had one good game against France in the 6N. He was anonymous against Ireland (Sheedy was better when he came on) and average v England.

@guybrushthreepwood3002 3 года назад

He makes too many mistakes to move ahead of Biggar or Sexton, sorry but no

@jlm4455 3 года назад

So Sexton and Biggar don't make mistakes? Did you see Sexton against France and Wales? He totally lost the plot. Kicking the ball out on the full multiple times and then having temper tantrums in both games. Russell by contrast played well within himself and with Hogg combined for some brilliant tactical kicking to win in France and against England at Twickers for the 1st time since 1983. You don't get to pin "mistakes" on Russell and ignore every other 10's mistakes just because it fits a lazy narrative. I know this for a fact there is no other 10 I'd rather have when down a few scores or whose pack is getting dominated, why? Because unlike Sexton and Farrell? Russell doesn't panic, he plays and sometimes leads his team back from a 31 point deficit with backs up. Watch rugby, don't sit back and let lazy narratives set by a lazy rugby media dominate your thinking.

@guybrushthreepwood3002 3 года назад

@@jlm4455 I just skipped to the bottom of your comment, read the last paragraph, decided the rest wasn't worth reading, then carried on with life.

@neverindoubtjones4789 3 года назад

Russell is the most overrated player in the history of the sport.

@lewtube1099 3 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂 ur funny, clearly never watched rugby in ur life m8

@bocabrownjunior 3 года назад

Are you kiddin mate?

@maciurabeta6040 3 года назад

I used to think that until I watched some of he's games . I thought he just got lucky when he did things but no

@paulmasson6582 3 года назад

Idiot comment.

@neverindoubtjones4789 3 года назад

Pick Scottish players and prepare to lose. It's in their DNA. As evidenced by their track record since 1999. Yes, 1999! And still Scottish fans have the audacity to moan about their players not getting picked. They are not good enough. End of.

@monsieur9743 3 года назад

Chill mate every team goes through bad periods France have went through similar length periods I think every team has it happens I don't think anyone would debate 99 till 2015 was probably the worst sixteen years in Scottish rugby but improvements are being made but it takes time it's evident Scotland are coming good results don't happen over night. Relax babe 😘

@realMaverickBuckley 3 года назад

Come on man, I'm English but the Scots boys have SURGED in the last 4 years.

@c0222 3 года назад

Cry me a river.

@scottnimmo4437 3 года назад

Considering they beat England and France this year and the two games they lost were by 3 points and 1 point it just sounds like ur a bit touchy just stop crying

@AlwaysAC 3 года назад

You raging that Scotland keep beating you in the Calcutta cup eh? Ah well lad better luck next year