Finn's Arm (or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Breezy) 

Hey guys - I know this comment's coming a bit late, but I'm still getting people bringing it up - so I thought I'd address it. Just in case you don't want to rewatch the video, here's the script for what I said about LSP & Finn, so I can reference it later. "After Finn, at least as far he believes, basically ruins Breezy’s life, his desire to try and feel anything at all is at an all time high - which is why, even if it’s not something that Finn would usually do, he allows himself to be taken advantage of by LSP. Does this make her a bad person? Almost certainly, something that shouldn’t be a revelation, but I don’t think this moment is really supposed to highlight her doing this horrible thing to Finn: the point is that Finn lets it happen. He’s so desperate for any semblance of emotion that he’s willing to give it a try, but all he finds is a new low - as his flower continues to wilt." First of all, using the phrase 'let it happen,' despite my intent, was definitely a mistake - but I still think this video makes it pretty clear that I obviously don't think that Finn is at all to blame for what LSP did. As I say in the script, LSP is a bad person for doing this, and, if this interaction occurred between two real life human beings, not characters with 'character arcs,' that would be the main takeaway. But, since this episode is focused on Finn's depression, I thought, and still do think, that the part of this interaction worth discussing is Finn's reaction - a reaction that's driven by what he's going through in the episode - as he does something that he normally wouldn't do. I totally get if you thought that I should have talked about this with more tact, as I definitely could have, but if you came away from this video thinking that the point of this was to excuse what LSP did because Finn didn't physically fight back - then I don't think I can convince you otherwise.

Finn has a delayed reaction realizing that Martin isn’t the only cause of his problems and about his arm. I love his self reflection, and it reminds me of myself at his age coming to terms with the facts my parents may have done some wrong but it’s up to me to fix myself ❤️ thanks Ample for another great video and Finn for growing up with me 😭❤️ Edit* typo

Even if LSP didn’t rape Finn like most fans took away from the episode, the fact she pushes herself on him for even just heavier/more intimate kisses is sexual assault. He clearly didn’t want to.

Breezy is a decent episode, but man did it ruin LSP for me. I don’t even know how they managed to sneak that in her. On a more positive note I like how Finn’s arm didn’t just go back to “normal” in certain situations like when he’s inside GOLB in the finale. He’s accepted himself by now.

The magic in adventure time is canonically a combo of Madness and sadness. I think it makes perfect sense that he manifests the telekinetic arm in the tower episode as he’s grieving. Shows how much he really way hurting

Finn letting it happen doesn’t make it any less sexual assault. Like you said he was taken advantage of. That still makes lsp a creep to me.

When I was a kid these episodes freaked me out a lot. I was really attached to Finn and the seemingly permanent change of him losing his arm made me really upset. In a weird sort of way, I went through stages of grief too. Then when Breezy came out> Even though I got what I wanted at the time with him getting his arm back, it felt unsatisfying, and I stopped caring about the show as much after that. But now as an adult, these are some of my favorite episodes by far, and I think my initial reaction to them actually makes them even better for me now. They're a really dark period of the show and I'm glad people are still talking about it. Thank you for making this video.

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I believe Finn's psychic arm is mix of his mental power and dipping his toe into madness. Finn has always had great mental power examples being resisting/fighting Goliad's probing and The Lich's Commands, turning on Jake's imagination from his own head, and breaking free of King Worm. When Finn reached "Martin" his psychic arm became bigger and stronger, he also did a crazy laugh similar to Ice King's laugh. When Finn stopped letting that madness control him the arm disappeared.

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If dejection of love is what keeps the healing blood of the guardians not working, it just shows how empty Finn was, with how Martin and even The Lich being healed almost instantly

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It's cool to see you cover an entire arc. I haven't watched these episodes in a while, but I never felt too cheated by Finn regaining his arm since it always felt like Finn emotionally processing his grief was the point of the arc. It's similar to "Is That You?" or "Hall of Egress" in the sense that the logic of the episode is hard to explain in words, but the emotional outcome _feels_ correct. Returning to your previous state after going through a major internal change is actually really common in Adventure Time. PB became 18 again, Marcie became a vampire again, Jake stopped being a blue alien, and technically Ice King was Simon's altered state, so even he reverted back to his original self. So it's kind of interesting to see how people react differently to all these instances. In any case, I liked Breezy (the episode), but the songs in particular are what stick in my brain. Finn and Breezy's voices sound great and the lyrics are good at conveying their emotions without being blunt. But also the visuals just nail what Finn is going through more than words can say.

i think Finn getting his arm at “tower” episode via emotional manifestation is not something you can’t expect from AT, since we have an episode with the finn’s astral projection flying to space just to have a chat with comet about eternity and stuff

I think the goop healed what it could, the grass curse couldnt be "healed" and took its "pound of flesh" for the use of it so far

Y'all gone make me defend "Sad Face" huh? 😭 Great video, though!

I gotta be honest, as a kid when I first watched the show, completely detached from the internet, I wasn’t aware that breezy was a controversial episode. I always thought it was really weird and crazy, but in the good way that adventure time always dose it. It also surprised me when you said that fins arm came back only two episodes later. I never remember the time being that short. For me it felt like a long time, and maybe that’s because of air dates on tv as opposed to streaming.

I understand how Finn felt, Earlier this year and the last bit of last year I felt a dark depression, I felt nothing, I was sick a lot and I was always fighting with everyone I loved. But, I found myself again, from accepting help from my family and friends. Finding my God again and finding myself within that depression. It took me so long to find it and once I did. I felt so much better. But it wouldn’t have happened if I didn’t have my family and friends who love me no matter what. I love this Video AS, thank you for sharing this amazing your points with these few episodes and give me a space to share my thoughts!

Adventure time is one of the only show that when I remember an episode I HATED there's going to be an essay on it explaining why I'm wrong and I'm like "Oh ! You are right. Guess I was just too young to get it." Also, regardless of THIS episode LSP need to be on list !!!

My only problem with Breezy was lsp basically coercing Finn. It completely ruined her character for me and was so dark.

I think it's not insignificant to kinda emphasize that Finn doesn't like LSP as a person, she's a selfish, rude, and imo annoying person, and the fact that Finn would be willing to let her take advantage of him despite those character traits, and the fact that we know he doesn't enjoy her company, isn't insignificant

Just noticed at 11:42 fin’s shadow still had both arms

I think Finn's telekinetic arm makes perfect sense within the established world building of the show. The mutagenic bomb/the catalyst comet tilted the balance of reality towards the magical and fantastical. We've seen Finn and Jake manifest magical abilities outside of their usual skill set on multiple occasions. Jake and Jermaine have twin telepathy despite not actually being twins and just having been born at the same time. When ice King paralyzed Finn and Jake Finn was able to call upon butterflies because of his past life as a butterfly that he could control telepathically. And as early as the first two seasons Finn rubs his hands together and shoots a fireball onto a pile of brush and there is no explanation given whatsoever. So I have no problem believing that Finns frustration could absolutely result in the manifestation of psychic powers. Especially since let's not forget Finn is not a normal person he is a reincarnation of a catalyst comet just like the Lich he is tied to cosmic forces more than a regular denisen of Oo

i think they just kinda wanted to have finn 'loose a part of himself' to show his feeling of incompleteness. that theres something missing.

i think that two episodes separating escape from the citadel and the tower actually help enhance your point about the five stages of grief as we see finn without the arm but its "normal" adventure time fun episodes, showing that finn is in denial. he's just continuing on. especially since hes a child. yes he's gone through other traumatizing stuff but not everyone will have the typical trauma reaction people expect from tv, the crying and screaming and other dramatic moments. people who have gone through a lot of traumatic things tend to just continue on-thinking that it's normal while it affects their behavior or until they come to that breaking point. i think that's where finn is. in that space of numbness and denial before the reality sits in. and the beginning of the tower is him moving from that denial and into the other stages. or if you want to give an outside the show view, they might've just wanted happier episodes in between the more heavier ones to give people a little bit of break. anyway, love the video! i've always loved breezy and the whole arc here so i love to see people defend it!

I LOVE Breezy as an episode and have since it aired. I think a lot of this analysis gets it pretty spot on, but I think it's worth pointing out that the reason why the guardian goop didn't heal Fin's arm was because it wasn't a wound, it was a physical manifestation of loss. And unfortunately, loss is something you have to process, not heal, and it never REALLY goes away. I don't think that the loss of Fin's arm is about Fin rejecting love, but is about the loss of an important person in his life and the lack of love felt in that loss. It's very easy to try to find replacements for healthy parental attachment in romance, and that's really what the heart of this episode is about. When you aren't securely attached to anyone, you look for anyone who will inspire feelings of security and love in you. Unlike the princesses that Fin pursues though, Breezy is the real deal. I think your interpretation sells her short in some ways, her appearance at the end of the episode is directed to Fin, commanding him to arise. She's here offering Fin the unconditional love that he didn't receive from his father, even though she knows she'll get nothing in return. Breezy's ending is also not as happy as you make it out to be here. While she does end up happy to have Fin's flower, her actions to prioritize Fin directly mean that something she cares deeply about, the flower, will soon be gone forever. The flower has already begun to wilt and now it can never recover. This is a moment of sacrifice for Breezy, where she prioritizes the person she loves over what she wants, and that is a big element for how Fin is ultimately healed. He doesn't even think that it was her, remembering it as coming from the "PB Fin Sword" moment he had.

Can you believe that Wake Up and Escape to the Citadel AND Breezy are all banned in the UK 😢

This was an example of how the experience is different watching a show when it's all out compared to watching it when it's still coming out. When AT was coming out in real time, I was upset about "backtracking" and "filler" but when rewatching it now none of that seems like a big deal. I raged in real time about "Sad Face" but on a rewatch and just treating it like another episode and not an "interruption" I don't have any problem with it because I know things will get back on track shortly. My wife had never watched the show when it was out and when I binged the entire thing with her she commented that that episode was actually one of her favorites.

"Finn and we, by extension, don't know who Finn's parents are, unlike other stories (shows Aang from ATLA)"

I always really loved the depression fin goes through during these episodes, it’s the only representation I ever found that REALLY feels like my own.

Ashley Burch is perfect for breezy she is weirdly comforting

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I think having normal episodes like James 2 and Sad Face actually fit Finn's character well. He's been shown plenty of times to be the kinda guy to just repress his problems and pretend nothing's wrong

This is one of my favorite episodes the music is so good but we don't talk about what happened with lsp 😅😭😭

i’ve been through depression and self-isolation, and breezy illustrates that state perfectly. i’ve always loved breezy ever since i was a kid and i always will.

When I first saw Breezy, I didn't understand it, now sadly I do and I relate to Finn more than I ever have before.

I think the theme of Finn continuously losing his arm and his sword to quickly find a new arm and new sword work as a metaphor of life. It's like over and over again, you realize nothing works like you think it does and you are completely lost with no idea of what you can do or what you are supposed to do and then you kind of get a grip of things again and you keep on going and you're supposed to pretend everything is fine but you know the arm you are using every day might be the wrong arm and it's not the arm you started with. You lost that a long time ago and when you try and recall that it's like you're looking at a film about a person who isn't you. PS If anyone liked LSP before Breezy I can't relate to that.

While I agree that PB at the end of Breezy represents love, I disagree on the form of love she represents. To contextualise my view, when losing his arm and finding out his dad is a deadbeat Finn doesn't grieve his father, who he never knew, but the self-concepted idea of his father. He also grieves the loss of his pure-hearted optimism about people (as stated). Realising these two flaws in his identity and worldview, as well as causing the loss of his arm through a stubbornness to accept that, I believe he develops a deep sense of self-loathing. I think this explains his inability to find a more healthy path to healing and why the healing goop has no effect on him (not thinking he deserves to heal). So then when Breezy sings about the love beyond reason it is an experience Finn is all too familiar with regarding PB ("this memory of feeling") and which he feels shameful for. However, Breezy sings of acceptance and forgiving herself as she kneels down, giving herself to her emotion rather than feeling shame for it. So when the figure of PB appears to Finn, she is both a mentor (from "my hero arise") and an embodiment of the feelings Finn empathises with in Breezy. A reflection of his own experience but with the addition of seeing Breezy rise above what Finn sees as a flaw in himself. When PB tells Finn to let love be his guide, its a love for himself he must feel. To accept the "flaws" of his identity as entirely a part of himself, and to let his and Breezy's mutual experience with love guide a path to seeing them not simply as flaws but part of the branching :) network of his whole self. He cannot be the selfless hero without this worldview and identity.

Keep up the good work man I love watching your videos they’re so nice and calm

I loved this longer form vide! Been searching for a good analysis of Breezy like this for ages!

Did Finn get assulted yes but he let it happen is such an insane fucking take lolllll😂😂

Finally Breezy, been waiting for this one. Amazing vid!

Great vid dude. I really love Breezy and although Finn should’ve lost his arm for longer, the circumstances invited this episode into the season and I’ll always be thankful for that. I really love the songs and the metaphors within them, and I think you nailed them all perfectly and explained them very well. Kudos to you Mr Ample 🎉

I love that Doctor Princess is neither a doctor nor a princess. It's just her names.

This video is amazing but I can’t stop geeking out about the reference of “Dr Strangelove (or how I fell in love with the bomb)” reference in the title

Now I understand more this arc and especially breezy, i always had mixed feelings about it, i still dont understand it as much, but i liked the video, almost made me cry at the final minutes

Thank you for such great vid.

I love your content so much dude! we don't mind the length at all ! adventure time and Steven universe are some of my favorite shows and I love your thoughts on them these videos scratch a certain itch no like nothin else 😂

Was so surprised people hated Breezy

i really enjoyed breezy. and in every instance of finn losing his arm even in his past lives, he regains it at some point before a massive change, a catalyst. his and ooo's history repeating themselves is a major theme of adventure time, as well as their respective acceptance of the past and eventual change for the better tldr: breezy isn't about finns arm, but about his inability to cope and change

Saying Finn “let’s it happen” is a phrase that personally really bothers me. He didn’t say yes or consent verbally or nonverbally. That phrase historically has been used to minimize SA victims’ suffering and legitimacy. LSP straight up assaulted him. I feel like because Finn is a boy it gets played down A LOT. But SA is SA, no matter the gender. I appreciate the point you’re making about the overall episode and Finn dealing with depression, but I feel like that point could have been made without minimizing the rather obvious signs that the scene implies SA/being forced into a situation you’re not comfortable with.

i mean even if the loss should've been permanant, it's a good thing he loses it again

I didn't like it at first because it felt like it back tracked Finn's development but going back after the end of the show, I think it's really good. The only part I still can't get over is LSP assaulting Finn. Not just that but also it's never brought up again. Not once. She got away with no social consequences.

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17:53 On boy that's relatable... 18:57 Recreating old emotions huh? 21:00 Nice! 22:36 Damn. 25:25 Damn that's poetic. 28:14 Wowser... 29:38 Ywah

I would argue the episodes in between finn losing his arm and the tower are necessary. I always read them as being that stage of 'life goes on' when you're depressed. Everything is falling down around you, you feel empty as fuck, but you still gotta put your functioning face on and pretend that you're fine and you're good until you just can't anymore. But then, i guess i could be projecting lol.

11:52 His gleeful face as he sends his father to next year 😂😂😂

I think it’s kind of fucked up that you say Finn “allowed himself” to be taken advantage of. It feels dismissive of him being a victim. I don’t know just feels gross to say that. It feels like you’re just making an excuse for LSP. You can like the episode without trying to excuse the actions of an abuser.

Finn is the most human character in any kid show, or most shows in general to date. He may be a hero, but it doesn't mean he's always right. He may be compassionate, but it isn't always in the right moments. He is a human character, with flaws as we all have. And self impressions of himself that hold him back, that we all put on ourselves as well. It is amazing to see him grow and grow with him.

Oh boy one of my favorites and at the same time how old is lsp?!!!

I think the arm regrow thing was him finally heal n be old self

I'm honestly just curious as to why Billy told Finn this information, it's not like Finn had any goal in finding his real parents or even needed Martin to begin with but yet he told him

Doesn’t he still lose his arm again after this

I feel like i have to say that i reallllyyyy like this video and it's style

bro y'all acting like this ain't the first time lsp's tried to molest finn smh

Sorry if this has already been said in this comment section but I think another reason Finn regaining his arm works is because... he didn't regain it. The way he loses it in 'Reboot', with it easily being undone shows that his arm coming back was just for show, it looked like his arm but it really wasn't and was never going to be permanent. It seems to be similar to how Fern was able to look like regular Finn despite still being made of grass. Yes I'm sure Finn getting his arm back was required by the network but I still think this way of doing it ultimately benefited his arc. Finn does grew in the episode 'Breezy' but he was still extrememly immature and couldn't accept the idea of his arm being gone, he needed to return to some form of status quo. So he doesn't actually lose his arm for a second time in Reboot, instead he is now forced to no longer lie to himself and accept that his arm was always gone. And now he is able to do just that after all his growth since Breezy.

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I think people take this arc out of the context of the whole series. Without Finn getting his arm back, we wouldn't have had Fern be a larger part of season 9 and 10. The Finn/Fern story arc is potentially my favorite despite it being sad overall. I was upset that his arm came back in such a short period of time, but overall I appreciate what they did after rewatching the series last year.

Omg Dr Lovestrange reference!!

Maybe That's Also the reason uncle grandpa came into ooo!

I love sad face. “Too much artsy not enough fartsy” lives in my head rent free

It felt like (on a subtle and metaphorical level) Finn was suffering from erectile dysfunction in the episode Breezy.

Surprised you didn't mention how Finn actually does lose his arm permanently a few seasons later

people need to separate their disgust of an action from a disgust of an episode. this was fantastic and It saddens me fans are so immature to be unable to handle it

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Me and my bro thought that finn getting his arm back, is finn breaking the one arm curse that he and his past life shoko has suffered from.

Steven was in fact not a "chosen one"

I loved breezy. I dislike LSP because of it though.. she most definitely did rape Finn and he didn't just let it happen(No offence, but bad choice of words..) And ik it can be hard to emotionally work through, but I feel that it's good to introduce these deep concepts to kids. I just remember myself being young and feeling so lost with no guidance on how to process difficult social experiences.

overall a great video and great analysis but i have to disagree with the sentiment that finn "allows himself to be taken advantage of." consent must also be genuine and enthusiastic to a degree, if someone is passive in response to being pushed for more kissing/sexual stuff then it's not consentual. Whether or not the 'making out' symbolised more, it doesn't really matter because either way it's still assault. we both agree that what LSP did was shitty, I just wanted to point it out. thanks for the video

I always thought breezy was one of the BEST episodes.

Wait so your argument is that Finn is physically strong enough to fight LSP? This isn't any less sexual assault. He told her he wasn't comfortable and she gave him no opportunity. The fact that using physical self-defense was his only option, proves that this is inherently assault. And not wanting to physically act against her does not make what happened his own doing, that's victim blaming

Inspired by Full Metal Alchemist perhaps? 👀 First thought on the thumbnail (and the setting looks like the End of Evangelion, the red ocean and beach)

As a kid, I found Breezy to be weird and too-abstract for my kid brain, but when I rewatched the show at 20, I realized how good Finn's whole arc of losing his arm is. I have a really complicated and messed up relationship with my estranged father, and the way Finn goes through a similar thing I felt myself relating so hard, and reconsidering how I was approaching my grief. The depiction of depression was so incredibly realistic too, but put in a way where he's still "Finn," if that makes any sense. Anyway, I'm rambling, but Breezy is good

I feel like I can relate to finn allowing lsp to take advantage of him.

I am surprised to know that people didn't like sad face. It's weird but I thought it was interesting. Then again I didn't know people didn't like Breezy either and I was fine with it so what do I know lol

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That is some great insight. Thanks for making this video! Is there any chance that you would be open to collaborating with us for our Adventure Time: Roleplaying Game?

LSP basically De-Flowered bro💀

Wait. He only had his arm gone for 3 episodes? I thought it was way more...

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I disagree about the eps before the Tower. He was so in denial he was pretending everything was normal. Deep depression looks exacly like that. I went theough that. You pretend so much to trick other people you almost believe it yourself until you finally snap and get angry. You don't stay in shock, or look empty. You look happy. You can even laugh and dance. Buy you just aren't actually happy. It was super accurate as someone who has lived through it. There is a reason most of the time people don't realize others are suicidal. Life continues no matter what you feel. People continue to live their happy lives and you act like you are part of it. It would be way weirder if we skipped those eps. I would also say Finn getting a psychic arm isn't weird. Finn isn't really a human. He is a comet in a human body. Finn is far stranger than regular humans. It isn't just plot armor. At his core he is magic. And magic rages in insanity, which rage and depression are. I would also point out LSP really did just make out with Finn, not sex. The creators said so. She was still super selfish, and it mirrors how he treated Flame Princess. It was a hard lesson. He had been blessed to not have people really be selfish towards him until then. He learned it is not a nice feeling and from that point forward stops. It isn't fair.

still shocked people overwhelmingly didn't like Finn losing his arm and the way he got it back by being like any other teen. Too close to home for some maybe lol? In all seriousness, I always thought these episodes were so good for being honest and messy with characters while playing with how people don't make the right choices when they're not in the right headspace. All the while, that doesn't necessarily make you a good or bad person but human. Finn's known as "Finn the Human" after all. As for the LSP stuff, I mean yeah it's pretty bad. But also, teens and young adults make dumb decisions all the time and regretting an intimate encounter is also an equally valid situation some people find themselves in. Shying away from that messiness just creates more shame and misconceptions over those situations,. All that does is create the perception that these things never happen at all or that there's' something inherently wrong with you for being someone who did a less-than-wise decision in your youth. Ngl, at the time of release, the people who were so against these episodes conceptually were usually trying to play some sort of moral high ground (over fictional characters...) which just looked like deflection over probably being in similar situations. Or maybe it was just extreme innocence and lack of awareness as to what sort of story these episodes were going for, hard to tell.

"he just let it happen" -average breezy apologists

I wanna know why the fuck Billy knew anything abt Finn’s dad

Ok but he loses the arm again and this time it stays gone. Like even into distant lands and Fiona and cake. He got his arm back, but lost it again for realsies this time. I know you mentioned that also, but the way you kept saying "it wasn't permanent" felt a bit dishonest. I think it has more to do with the curse of the grass sword. The grass sword was cursed, that curse bonded with finn by flesh and spirit. That's why it reacted to him not wanting to lose Martin again. And the damn sword imbedded itself into his flesh and was also brought back by the goo. And this return of his arm leads to both the finn sword and Fernn. And the second loss of his arm. Becuase he was always going to lose that arm. That was always the end game.

i may be missing something but the use of "he let them" doesnt seem like a good choice of words. hes a child that didnt know how to say no or if he could/should really. at least thats my take as a survivor myself

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I mean, both can be true. Breezy is a decent episode, and LSP belongs on a list.