I once saw 2 guys beating up an old lady and using my years of training I thought I should jump in using experience from my training. The old lady had no chance against the 3 of us.
@@freepatriot9070 as a kid ww2 was beautiful . I was in love with the mass bombings in Germany but if I was a man in Germany on the ground I wouldn’t be like that
No fear of natural selection we just spend tine waiting till we die, life has no purpose anymore. And with all these modern trends we can barely express ourselves as the animals we are
yeah, I'd be mad if someone leaned at my laptop too, maybe even punched seat, but sane person would've looked back and asked "what happened", maybe said sorry or something, not fucking act tough like he wants to start a fight
One of the most frustrating aspects of coming home from jail/prison is that you go from a world where respect is everything and if you don’t say excuse me for bumping into someone that could be a fight or it could cost you your life. Then you come home, and people constantly disrespect you without worrying about consequence because they can just call the cops on you.
This is such an interesting comment, prison is such a different world ppl like me who haven't been, cant understand. thank you. I just listened to the bobby green JRE , and this topic sorta comes up their too. So can I ask a question? Prison was explained like: some guys like lifers go from 0 to fight mode over the slightest thing, like even PlayStation games. coz they never learnt communication skills. And then those guys are setting the trends that everyone follows, so u go in and alget forced into acting the same way too - else you get made to pay for it right? now when u out, youre getting forced the opposite way. Like you're body goes into threat mode coz thats what u been forced into but cos of the cops thing, you can't act. And If I get you right, that's the frustrating bit. So my question is: For most people does it get less frustrating over time or is it like your body alway go into threat mode now? Like frustration change coz u now getting forced
@@saberxebeck To answer your question: certain aspects of that mentality never truly go away. I was locked up for a year and a half and still, to this day, have to remind myself to step back and breathe when someone is being disrespectful. My father on the other hand did 14 years in federal prison with the worst of the worst. He has adapted to life on the outside and is doing quite well but occasionally something small will set him off. I’ll crack a joke at the dinner table and he’ll instantly be back into fight mode before settling down and apologizing. You can see it on his face. Doing time is no joke.
@@saberxebeck Of course ! Glad I could add some info. Unfortunately this just goes to show that our prisons do not rehabilitate people and in fact make them more hostile .. my father was a non-violent drug offender and came out the other side ready to fight.
He's misses his own point, it's not just that you could run into a trained fighter. It's that even as a trained fighter you have no idea what you're walking into, knives guns etc, not just running into a better fighter
@@nocturnaljoe9543 watching LiveLeak videos will make everyone understand why you DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT a random stranger... so many horrible possibilities
Yeah that’s the whole other side to this in America lol I have no training whatsoever but I have a conceal carry license valid in almost 40 states and and carry a Glock everyday like MANY other Americans… not much martial arts training can do to stop a bullet… Not that I think it isn’t valuable though if they get their hands on you before you get to your waistband it could be lights out for you as well. I do plan to take BJJ classes soon sounds like a good challenge and confidence builder
Thats the biggest takeaway. It doesn't matter how much fight training you have when you come across someone violent. You could get stabbed, shot, beat with a pipe or bat, hit with a car, the list goes on. Know how to fight means nothing when youre against a someone who enjoys violence and will commit violence at a level you can't even imagine.
@@RichieD_21 usually those who do it are newbies too, real mobs and assassins only do it to get payed if they don't get money they won't risk going to prison just to show off
In Oregon my Uncle Chael grew up surrounded by such hardcore criminality that he literally witnessed people publicly littering on a daily basis. It was brutal stuff man.
Yeah "he turned white"....... Whats the old saying "never scare a small man, he will kill you". That can be the danger there of being confident and having training, it may come across and scare the person into using a weapon. Unless you're backed in a corner it's to the death (then you should use a weapon too) ignore it and walk away! The laptop chair punch or the wrong turn guy is risking a beating and he doesn't know it sure. Firas is risking REAL(not ring, with a weapon) violence on himself ,which HE probably doesn't have a concept of either, by not just ignoring a minor irritation and walking away.
@@gwildordipkin6504 The Ar@b thinks he's safe cuz he knows how to fight hand to hand. Some people don't care and will use weapons. I doubt he knows what w@r is either.
@@Thecgsystem Yeah but crazy people don't realize that. Anyone who isn't crazy can just shrug it off, screw it, why play the odds to call out rude people in any aggressive manner unless they force the issue? Hell in both situations he described he woulda went to jail if he won (not self defense calling out someone asking if they wanna go as an elite fighter), and the hospital if he lost (especially HIM cause theyd have had to use a weapon on him to beat him). It's no win, especially for him. That's my point. Brian Grimes is right too in pointing out hes starting pissing contests over shrug it off situations, then advising not to get in street fights. Had been an old lady who hit his seat he wouldn't have gotten aggressive (I assume haha). Hes harboring some male on male "violent conflict resolution" ideals himself. People carry knives and guns and tire irons and pepper spray and run people over with their cars who punch them out etc etc etc. He shouldn't tell those stories then next breath act all "zen" about street violence.
Facts i know what ur saying but when someone yells at you and u casually say u wanna go mate and they pucker up it means they dont know wtf they were doing yelling in the first place , impulse is quick reflection can be a lifetime some people choose who they wanna be aggro on they are insecure bullies but you never wanna underestimate someone
No joke though so many arrogant little kids man and I'm young myself. Martial arts taught me respect. People think they can get away with shit because they've never been stockton slapped
If you fought much growing up or got beaten up, you always feel that as an adult man, violence is never completely off the cards. It tends to mitigate your responses to a lot of stuffand make you more measured when dealing other men. Win or lose, violent altercations are pure carnage. A lot of women in general and some men never had these experiences and it shows in how they confront people about things. You can see that they are not in the least bit worried about getting hit because rightly or wrongly, they don't believe it will happen. The change in some men's behavior when it appears on the cards is huge. Maybe everybody should get their ass kicked growing up.
I'm female and I got a whooping growing up from my parents for bad behaviour etc. I know nowadays there's this whole thing against corporal punishment for kids, but I never resented my folks for it... in fact we had a good, happy childhood and that whooping did me and my siblings a lot of good. I am disciplined, respect people and am very physically fit. However, I do find myself 'ready' when there's an unpredictable situation... I won't back down and won't escalate either... I know how to stay calm... but I'm already playing through possible scenarios... and adjusting for it... I find that people who've never been hit, get so loud, instigate trouble, provoke and then walk right into a punch... I would never physically attack someone first, no matter the provocation... but would definitely be ready for anything coming my way...
@@fayecummings1946 Exactly, you treat other people with respect. As the generational legacy of violence and hard times subside, I can see the arrogance and disrespect growing in our population day by day.
True. After I got jumped as a kid (wasn’t a bad kid or anything just shitty friends) shit isn’t the same. You realize at any moment someone could pop off, fuck it if you lose you might wake up with no bottom jaw or you might not wake up at all. If you get a clean strike, they could fall, hit their head, now you’re on manslaughter charges. Nah. If someone is trying to fight me I know they must just be stupid, would rather run, my ego isn’t big enough to die for.
🤣 I grew up with a smack on the table from my parents. And in high school I wrestled. I never thought I was tough though, because I thought it was the norm. As an adult and "function member" of society, I've realized there are a lot of insecure adults and a lot of them haven't been smacked as kids or been manhandled.
My son was an amateur MMA fighter and wanted to attend a training camp for his 3rd belt in Quebec with Mr. Zahabi. He was just turning 18 and my wife sent both of us since it was his first time out of the country. Mr. Zahabi’s facility had a place for the athletes to stay and he watched my son and told him he was very disciplined and good for an amateur and invited him to train with his pro class. We attended and my son got to spar extremely fast and talented UFC pros we both watched on TV. I never met a room full of the most dangerous people on the planet who we so helpful and willing to teach him and coach him. GSP was also there helping him out. Needless to say, my son won his 3rd belt and went pro soon after. But those fighters and Mr. Zahabi were the greatest!!!!
violence don’t care what belt you are in BJJ, violence don’t comply with a referee violence don’t have a weight division it has a victim a time and a date, and true violence is never with the bare hands it’s mostly done by less physical ppl the smallest skinniest and shortest
I think it is right because people nowadays mostly get away by saying what they want even if it can be very disrespectful. I think what your mom was saying is that people who got punched in the face have been taught humility at some point. People deserves to be punched if they are very disrespectful thus getting punched in the face teaches them humility.
i went from being bullied as a fat kid, to briefly being an absolute dickhead after a breakup. picking on people just because i felt worthless and i genuinely hated seeing people being happy since i wasn't. i can tell you guys first hand if i wasn't so insecure and at war with myself i wouldn't have projected all my problems onto random mfs who don't even know me. even though i grew to be 6'5 and shed all that weight, on the inside i was still that little fat kid. the world isn't out to get you. nobody is "praying on your downfall". i hope anyone who felt the way i did focuses on themselves and their problems rather than being an asshole like i was. don't be me y'all, be better.
This one dude that trained in boxing at my school was the chillest dude . Despite the fact that he could easily beat alot of kids in the school as almost everyone else didn’t train . It’s mainly the kids who don’t practice but have some physical advantage ( height and or weight mainly ) , that acts tough and bullies people . The ones who could actually hurt someone through training and not have to rely on just physical advantages are the ones that are chill. And they will help you get better instead of hurting you .
Fighters are usually humble and chilled compared to other athletes because they know what it feels like to feel vulnerable. People these days think that just being angry enough will help them win and fighting a better fighter removes that mindset and forces fighters to be humble. There is a saying that "If you practice at a McDojo, you feel like you can take on the world. If you practice at a real gym, you felt like the world took you on."
@@wasabi5338yeah I agree 100%, I started training judo not too long ago, and even though I’m getting beat constantly and getting thrown hurts , it’s been really fun to learn . The last sentence you said especially resonates to me , cause ever since I started training, I realized that grappling is way more complex than I ever knew it was. It was really humbling , I remember the most humbling moment was when I lost to this guy, and found out he was only 15 years old.
Agreed so much, they also don't know the regret when the other person gets so hurt and then you look at yourself like" am I the bad guy here" . Its not a good feeling. No one wins in those situations, only losers
Maybe that's me but I honestly never felt regret whenever I did beat someone up because every single time I got provoked by them to jump in a fight (except really one or two where there was a misunderstanding, as soon as I understood it I apologized)
To be fair, hearing others loud breathing nearby (unless a medical condition or in hospital lol) is infuriating. Its kinda like those loud chewers/ obnoxious food slurping eaters. Annoying af
Jones would beat Tyson? Christ what is with this generation. Tyson is a boxer. So you would then have to make Jones box. Tyson is a genetic freak with a mindset in the ring similar to a tiger stalking you for a meal. He punches hard and he's hyper-aggressive with footwork that is intended to close the distance and overwhelm his opponent. Jones would be ground beef by the end of it, his only saving grace being his reach. Look at the body type alone. It is clear that Jones doesn't have the KO potential Tyson has. Jones relies on strategy which would be fruitless in a boxing ring. You think MacGregor vs Mayweather was bad? Stick prime Tyson against prime Jones and the latter will be a limp corpse to bet on.
JRE just never experienced real bullying in a scrub school of a ghetto town. The hierarchy of power is very real there, and power is based on ability to bring friends to put someone down, but there's individual power too, and the person more physically fit and more willing to violently fight will always suppress the physically weaker person. And how do people know this? Well because they fucking fight, because they act like bullies only if they know that they can fuck you up. Martial training/experience is like a weapon that you can't even unwield. And what do physically weaker people need to do? Devote their whole lives to obtaining enough muscle, experience, fighting technique and confidence to be allowed to just be uninjured? This is a much more violent and complex situation that JRE is thinking of it.
Exactly. There have been literally stories about karate or BJJ or other TMA instructors who have gone to jail for killing their wives or kids etc.... these aren't good people. Martial arts doesn't make you a saint. If anything, if you have certain negative personality traits, becoming better at inflicting pain on other people, having people defer to you in a way that TMA encourages etc... can actually make some people far, far worse.
It's because some of these men know that they have the experience in fighting to distroy and are a threat to anybody regular that dont do this for a living, think they can bully you for no reason and take advantage at least for some I guess? But! can't beat'em...well?...run'em over!!! Hahaha fuack off asshole!!!.... Muahahahaha!!!
very true man. One day i can beat up everyone during sparring but when certain guys come in i don't stand a chance and that really humbles me. be kind to everyone you meet.
I disagree, just from my own perspective. I’ve met people who wanna fight me all the time cause I’m 5’7-5’8. I’m not skinny, I’m fairly athletically built. I’ve had years of fights as a younger boy, and I’ve had years of training in different combat sports. Boxing, wrestling and Taekwondo. I think Joe and the guy are just making the point that, the gym teaches respect, and everyone thinks they want to fight but don’t know the outcome that their facing... If I was violent, I would have hurt MANY young men by now but my ego isn’t in question so I de-escalate the situation cause to me...personally, I already know, 8-9/10. I’ll win, then I just feel like shit cause I knew what I had coming into this situation, and instead of degreasing the situation I leaned into it. I’m not the RU-vid tough guy and no one I’m around these days knows me as that cause I’m humble about it. Most just laugh cause I’m easy going. I don’t care, but every now and then when I get pressed, there’s still that want to hurt them, it’s just not fair cause it’s a lose lose for me. I lose, I get my ass beat, I win, I just feel guilty, and someone’s humiliated. Not commenting for ego, tbh just wondering if any ever feels the same way? Like, you’ve trained, been in fights, are used to violence and know...your gonna hurt them, no question, your probably gonna win, and this person doesn’t have a clue what their up against. I’m not a mma champ, but I’ll use a maneuver, and throw several straights in succession then throw a hook. I could kick someone in their fucking head, or take any limb givin. It’s just, not prideful too me it’s wrong for me to willingly be open to do so, in my opinion. I’ve been knocked the fuck out, like lights out, and I’ve had black eyes, cut lips, bloody noses, and bruised the fuck up. There’s always a chance of losing no matter what, and when I’m placed into the situation, I back down, it’s a matter of humility. Idk, to each their own, but after giving hurt and getting hurt, I don’t want anyone hurt, no matter the person. Perhaps if a bully starts to get to that level like me, the ego will slide... maybe not but most UFC fighters are very mellow individuals.
My elder brother used to fight with me for fun , ever since I was a child. We're almost 10 years apart so I used to hate it but as I got older , My reflexes , my movements , just overall my skills improved. Just knowing that you're not weak among your peers is actually a really elite feeling and people should really train. I eventually started going to a dojo too.
I agree completely. I only wrestled through high school but I learned more through those brutal hours before and after school about who I am and what that could mean for me. It is an important developmental tool in life
i remember the shock of the sparring in MMA when i first moved to that from taekwondo, i was absolutely blown away by the actual violence in it and was terrified and excited at the same time, i wanted to know everything while also wanting to get tf outta there haha ( i saw two of the best in the gym at the time going full hard in sparring because one of them was preparing for a fight) just the shock of getting punched in the face for the first few times while sparring was so scary to me that i had no clue what to do and how absolutely terrified i became because i was so defenseless and once i got that reality check i had no option but to learn as much as i could!
@@rahuldahoob well ive been doing it now for 3 years consistently plus weight lifting at a gym and cardio on days i dont have it on. Its one of the best decisions I've ever made learning this sport, so much to learn and adapt but not only because of that its mainly because its made me into a super confident, happy, strong and capable person.
@@cortex7024 I have been doing it for a month. Most of the other guys who were complete novices and started with me have dropped out Today was the first day I got some proper punches and I gave a few hard ones back. Terrifying 😂 my opponent was clearly more experienced than me but I am taller so I utlized my long legs and arms totower over him at points. I ended up worse off in the end I wish I had started this 20years ago!! In my late teens rather than late 30s😂😂
First fight I ever got in, I remember getting rocked so hard that my whole body froze. Not from pain, but the pure shock of getting into a physical altercation left me with no time to react. Most humbling day of my life.
@@jeffreymacmullin1653 Haha that's usually what it takes. I've won most of the fights I've been in as well, I've just alway tried to avoid them. There are 2 realities: 1- you never know who it is you're arguing with and what they're capable of 2- there's always someone bigger and badder, and it very well could be that guy
The moment the concealed weapon becomes less concealed is usually funny. Both of my last times were incidentally against four guys - the first time was in the dead of night on the highway with no one else around and I outright slid the holster on my belt in front of the jacket and the last time it was just an imprint under my shirt but it was quite evident that thing is a full sized pistol. Both times they lost interest quickly because few people are reckless or crazy enough to push their luck and see where it takes them. No need to even draw and point the thing - it just makes for very poor risk management as the potential for escalating is out of control.
Hey Joe Rogan been watching you for a while and you have inspired me to go back to the gym eat clean and now I’m looking for a jujitsu classes to take I’ve been very insecure about myself my whole life and I grew up in California so I was always getting bullied and jumped and I always had a fear of fighting because I was never trained or anything to fight like that I took a lot of punches in my lifetime never got knocked at one time but I was always scared to defend myself that’s why I want to to learn jujitsu to defend myself to be more confident about myself is the number one thing for me thank you very much God bless you man
Keyboard warriors only exist because they don't know the consequence of pushing and poking someone. If you've personally seen or been in real beef, you don't pop off at the mouth because you know what can happen next. "Lay yo ass out like a 3 page poster"- J Hood
To play the Devil's advocate, feeling safe also allows people to voice warranted criticism. It isn't simply an excuse to be disrespectful. Think about the fear of voicing political criticism in a country like Russia or Saudi.
@@jyanasensei I get that, but there's a difference between voicing a belief and shit talking someone. No one should get knocked out for being for or against abortion, but if you're outside a Planned Parenthood calling the people walking in "pieces of shit"...then you've crossed the line.
jeff newman True Story . I fought a street sing soo high on Tequila one night after doing some crazy shit... I was sooo hammered that I could not believe my behavior... but went with it anyway. At least I didn’t hurt anyone... but that sing definitely shit the fuck up 🥴😂👍🏼
One time I was on a airplane on my laptop and the guy in front of me pushed his chair back and almost broke my laptop I was like wow man and then started telling me off
It's the design of the seats that's the real problem. Room should be enough even with the seat leaned back. Some of these planes, someone leans their seat back and it's right in your face.
I'm retired military and I had a friend that would say about bullies, "They have never had a good old fashioned ass whipping." My dad was a Vietnam Veteran and a Chickasaw Indian. He gave me good old fashioned ass whippings and told me never to go looking for a trouble because you will find it and may regret it forever. He was shot in a fight after he came home from Vietnam and languished in intensive care for 21 days. There's some really dangerous people out there and the best thing you can do for yourself and those that love you is to keep your mouth shut and practice humility.
Yeah but then you get ripped and walked over because youre built small, speaking for myself. Its either that or youre a ghost and nobody sees you as anything worthy.
@@adads2364 practice being humble, but practice good morals alongside this. Don't let your ego cloud your decision making, instead follow your morals and look for the actions that will lead to a net positive.
Frederick Lawton It’s about picking the best options, aiming to avoid the bad while consuming and giving out the good. It ain’t a perfect science that’s why life isn’t easy😂
Its a truly scary thing. You have make a choice to not care at all what happens to the other guy in order to protect yourself. Its better to not fight at all than to have be faced with this.
People can die in an inch of water as well. Or while there walking around the hood. Or in traffic. Or from hearing the democrats whine like bitches on cnn
In my experience bullies who learn to fight don't stop bullying, they just become more calculated about it. It's in their aggressive nature. People get angry and do stupid, out of character things they wouldn't do normally. You could be a walking death machine but if someone pulls a gun you still might die
I’ve trained kick boxing and played football from 7 until I was 23, that thought of walking in somewhere and feeling exposed is eye opening. Physicality isn’t instilled in some people
i go to the gym everyday, i’m strong, i’m a huge mma fan but i never trained martial arts. i would love to start training with a coach like this, calm and intelligent. the problem is, most of the regular gyms in my small town are run by crazy/not qualified people.
One time when i was a teenager i was driving with my mom, a lady got road rage and starting yelling at my mom. my mother simply replied "OK pull over" as she acted to put her hair in a scrunchy. the lady was instantly scared rolled up her window and drove away. this was such an out of character gesture, but it was single handily one of the most badass experiences ive ever encountered.
@@em-nr3uw your discourse is the problem. Education trumps martial arts in violence suppression. Insults, threats and straw man fallacies are counterproductive and will not lead you anywhere (good). Cheers
The whole time watching this I was remembering the years I bartended/bounced some really big clubs in S. Calif. then they finally brought it up. Myself and the fellas I worked with on many, many occasions we would tell people, “stop and think about what is about to happen if you continue “ a few times thankfully they weren’t so drunk to not understand, most times, they were taken down real quick. Absolutely correct, people don’t understand the reality of violence
@@davidl3278 you don't pay attention to reality and assess your surroundings then. Sounds like you didn't inherit those survival instincts, but I'll tell you most men who are actual men will assess that if they walk into a room of unknown people incase something happens
@@Magetastic69 I think most of the people saying “I’m not like that, I’m not insecure in those situations, I don’t size people up” in these comments do, they just lack self awareness.
@Art Chave lol he’d probably try to fight joe. Honestly tho despite the joke I wanna see Charlie get some help the whole things kinda sad to me if joe ever does get em on I hope it’s to sit him down with a doctor. Dudes legit crazy he needs to get medicated.
i get what he i ssaying, like he wasnt looking for a fight he was looking to turn down the guy, he didnt use violence he used intimidation witch in some cases its better because u evoid violence
Hm.. A bratty, asshole buisness guy on an airplane vs somebody threatening you with a 3500 lb car when you are making a legal turn. Big difference bud. I'd be ready to go too.
So people smacking you and purposely almost driving into your car then screaming at you is a small amount of disrespect? What's a big amount, killing you?
Nowadays there are a lot of people who can fight..I've got years of wrestling, martial arts training and I try to avoid confrontation.. there's always someone tougher than you at any given time.. It is nice to have the confidence to know that most of the time you can hold your own.. In my early life I wanted to solve every problem I had by beating someone up, but then I got to the point where I felt like I could take on anyone.. but then I didn't need to fight anymore, just knowing that I could fight was enough.. I think that's the idea, the discipline behind training in the first place...
I know right. He's like I hate violence it's the last thing I wanna do. Than proceeded to tell story after story about almost beating the crap out someone, it's great.
@@theknuckle4472 sure, but also those to situation was very minor, he escalated to "hey you wanna fight". He got out of his car cause of road rage." So yea my comment stands.
Scott Shanahan then he’s not talking about you. I’ve met people like that. Picking fights over the most trivial of things, despite not at all in the physical or mental condition to fight.
Scott Shanahan strangely a lot people do. They’re always trying to prove themselves to be superior to everyone else around them. When they can’t convince themselves that, they try to start arguments and belittle other people.
@@scottshanahan3827 People are insecure about it because if any kind of altercation does break out they aren't even going to know how to stand, much less how to keep themselves from getting beaten. Some people just aren't going to think about it but if you really consider the reality of a violent situation you'll realize you're pretty helpless to somebody who's trained 99% of the time
Yea I agree a lot of people who haven't trained are at the height of the dunning kruger effect or don't grasp a fight, conflict or danger might happen, because it most likely won't.
"Normal people... they don't almost get into fights with randos 10 times a day like me, so they have no idea. Those people are crazy. People need to chill, like I do."
They know how to fight bc they had lots of practice on weaklings but once they come across someone who knows how to fight 4 real and doesnt edit: mind] getting punched, then the bully becomes a coward
google Google both of them have been in street fights. Dunno why you like to talk shit on the internet about people maybe you are one of the insecure people they speak about.
I knew a guy at school who was the biggest bully, his father taught him to box and possibly bullied him, some people dont know any better...and keep repeating the same mistakes in life. I knew another kid whos father beat on him and his younger sibling....he was quiet, respectful and a very nice guy.. i think everyone has different exp in life and getting in fights with unknowns is a massive risk, definitly a last resort esp with innocents or others that dont wish to be involved, give everyone respect, if lost...they need to earn it back.
