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Fire Alarm Installation UK - Scout Hut Episode 9
Join me as I replace a fire alarm system in this scout hut!
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@alanjrobertson
@alanjrobertson 4 года назад
Brilliant series, you deserve a holiday after that epic amount of fault finding and work - hope the scouts appreciate how much safer everything is now!
@adejupe8308
@adejupe8308 4 года назад
This Scout hut is solely responsible for Jordan being able to buy his new Model 3 😂😂
@supersparks9466
@supersparks9466 4 года назад
Did he ever say he was buying one? Could be lease hire.
@edcooper2396
@edcooper2396 4 года назад
Supersparks no doubt some 0% BIK goodness
@leeburnside735
@leeburnside735 4 года назад
The job that’s just keeps giving 😂 everyday is a school day Jordan as a spark love it 😊
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Totally!
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 4 года назад
Scouts will be having a lot of jumble sales to pay for all that time!
@johnwaby4321
@johnwaby4321 4 года назад
Nice job ..don't forget the log books for the fire alarm and emergency lights for the client to fill in when he carry out the testing .👍
@ashleybourne5635
@ashleybourne5635 4 года назад
When you’re trying to identify cables you should try using a tone generator. I use the Tempo PTS 200 and it comes in really handy for tracing circuits and sorting out big bunches of cables if they’re not labelled.
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 4 года назад
Definitely, the things are a godsend
@DerekHundik
@DerekHundik 4 года назад
i got one too very handy
@alexandersalarms5380
@alexandersalarms5380 4 года назад
i need to get one of these. people need to label wires !
@peterrobinson850
@peterrobinson850 4 года назад
Hi Jordan, I really enjoy your video's. I like the way you leave your mistakes unedited, no one is perfect, mistakes come easy when your tired. Your professional standards are high. Keep your videos coming look forward to them. The only criticism is the sound is too soft and muffled sometimes because you are not facing the mike, us old cretins can't hear the full sound spectrum. Good work thanks.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Thanks a lot
@eddiestafford3313
@eddiestafford3313 Год назад
Excellent series of 9 videos covering a massive job. Well done ......enjoyed ever single one....nice workmanship!!😀
@davenoble7350
@davenoble7350 4 года назад
Light sensors coming on prematurely is due to Microwave can detect through walls.
@stuartcraigon2003
@stuartcraigon2003 4 года назад
Brilliant series Jordan. Really enjoyed this. Can't wait for the next series.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@B3CK377
@B3CK377 4 года назад
The MCP next to the panel looks like it was fitted so that you keep it in the same zone as the rest of the devices in the zone. Cable from zone 1, down to MCP back to the outgoing cable (jointed) of zone 1..... Those Apollo bases that were initially installed will work with that CTec panel......For reference those panels have a 1 man walk test function... Saves running around silencing
@cantbelieveimhere2935
@cantbelieveimhere2935 4 года назад
The existing apollo detectors wouldnt have worked as they were standard conventional, the new Ctec panel was the 2 wire alarmsense which has conventional sounder outputs, but the zones are only compatible with alarmsense detectors.
@andrewswift4894
@andrewswift4894 Месяц назад
love watching the videos, very precise clear detail on how things should be done and having just completed my level 3 electrical installation course, by watching all you guys doing installations gives me the appetite to pursue a career in domestic installations although i'm in my 50's age doesn't bother me.
@thomasbyles3075
@thomasbyles3075 4 года назад
Fair play for doing this video, I would have got too frustrated with the job to bother filming but it’s great to see how you approach each hurdle
@adamdavis2068
@adamdavis2068 4 года назад
Just a tip for fire alarms, make sure you tape the fp that is coming into the panel. Just some reg that is constantly drilled into us fire alarm boys heads. Good work, first sparky I’ve seen that hasn’t actually done a shit job that someone will have to go back to correct
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Thanks 😊
@daveblake6407
@daveblake6407 3 года назад
Bit late to the party but a tip with conventional/two wire fire systems, make sure you note in the panel or on the zone chart where the end of lines are, trust me at 3AM it is greatly appreciated! Thankfully i traded my cutters for a calculator so not an issue for me anymore :) I think you picked up most of the problems i spotted on the 1st video, I believe you are also correct that it should be FP back to the distribution board, i did find in the past that BAFE inspectors tended to have slightly different interpretations of the exact point at which the supply feed needs to be FP, but I have been out of the industry for quite a while so they have probably further clarified the requirements now
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Thanks!
@madhatter61
@madhatter61 3 года назад
I don't know why but I've found this series fascinating .
@jamesbolleurs6183
@jamesbolleurs6183 4 года назад
I am a 13 year old kid that loves these types of thing i cant tell you how happy i am to have met your channel it is so fasinating
@billboc5642
@billboc5642 3 года назад
Just a heads up you should be using porcelain connector blocks for fire alarm systems not plastic 👍
@JJ-kr6ky
@JJ-kr6ky 4 года назад
Hey Jordan, that job seems like the gift that just keeps on giving.Good job👍
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
You got that right!
@_chrisr_
@_chrisr_ 3 года назад
I've never seen the construction of a fire alarm system so this was really interesting. but I did just want to get some nice fine filler on the gap under the panel as the caulk didn't seem to leave a nice finish!
@peternewman4365
@peternewman4365 3 года назад
Classic, the wholesaler supplied some series 65 detectors, together with alarmsense detectors. I find this issue so regularly when tech supporting fire engineers, who are servicing systems. Electricians often don’t have smoke to fully test system when installing & don’t realise the system they have installed does not work. Fire alarms should be supplied & I installed by fully trained individuals.
@bryceonyoutube
@bryceonyoutube 4 года назад
I cannot believe that someone who "Installed" this fire alarm in the sound mind and concious left it in that state! Just imagine if a fire did happen and all the kids could of died!!!! Beyond gross neglience!!!! The "installer" should be reported and all of their work audited!!!! I think all fire alarm installers no matter which country your from should have a regulatory body like Gas Safe Register where they must register and be constantly monitored and aduited!
@michaelcox4081
@michaelcox4081 4 года назад
I agree but i also think there should be an Electrical Register (like Gas Safe). NOT ran by the NIC or the likes.
@feelingtardy
@feelingtardy 4 года назад
i'm from the u.s. but work in the industry. if i signed off and certified that system, it's my ass on the line. not sure how it is in the u.k., probably more strict. obviously they could go after my employer, but i'm personally responsible as well. also, it's a felony what that "installer" did
@cocoino2307
@cocoino2307 4 года назад
@@feelingtardy correct me if im wrong but in the US after a normal house rewire you get an Inspector to look at the jobs right? how often is that? in Uk we almost never get them if its one house , only if its a big job 3+ houses they come and they only look at each house/flat 5 mins. the amount of illegal work in uk is stupid and the worse thing is that if the installation has been made for a couple years they dont really procecute them
@anthonybragg
@anthonybragg 4 года назад
There must have been a fire alarm certificate issued for the building to be put into use?
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 года назад
But really, if that building required a fire alarm, they should not have been using it , so had something happened the scouts would have been in hot water as well as the original installer.
@busman2000
@busman2000 4 года назад
With the toilets, I have found through personal experience that motion activated light switches are inconvenient, as when you are seated and about your business, you tend to be out of the range of detection and or moving very little. A sound activated switch would be much better as you can clap your hands to switch the lights back on. Should you be plunged into darkness whilst your trousers are around your ankles, and you have a potentially messy job to take care of in the dark.
@rattlehead85
@rattlehead85 4 года назад
Great Video as always Jordan...your content is always interesting to watch. Learnt something here to about the end of line capacitors and resistors...never thought about why they had to be different. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@tomorichard
@tomorichard 4 года назад
What certification will you issue on completion of these works? I would be check to see if your insurance covers you to carry out fire alarm system works as it’s not something you would think of but also very often a higher level of cover.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Yes I issued a Fire Alarm Certificate
@scottterrell33
@scottterrell33 4 года назад
You could have fitted sounder bases on the zones if you used an alarm sense panel and done away with the sounder circuit
@yeety1208
@yeety1208 3 года назад
This is an alarmsense panel
@ajmelectricalcontractors
@ajmelectricalcontractors 3 года назад
Do the integrated sounder bases on the smoke detectors require 4 core cable or do they just work on the 2 core cable straight from the zone wiring panel?
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 года назад
I have watched all the videos on this job, and it looks like it's had some kind of refurb done on it maybe a grant, and if that was the case I wouldn't be surprised if the electrical work was done by the builder as well, it just has all the signs of jobs I have come across where a builder has had a go and been out of their depth. Because none of the stuff in that place is rocket science its everyday stuff to an electrician.
@stephenmartin8665
@stephenmartin8665 2 года назад
I would definitely surface mount for a swift and clean installation. Seal all gaps with fire rated sealant. Jobs a goodun 👍
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 4 года назад
Nice job on that floor outlet, for a floor outlet you would think that it would have been designed to sit in the floor more than just on it. makes me wonder if that was just a hinged flap outlet and not actually a floor outlet. Either way it looks nice and it looks flush with the floor.
@xylo66
@xylo66 4 года назад
Another good one Jordan.
@williamcross3904
@williamcross3904 4 года назад
Interesting video, atleast it's all working know.! You would of thought the owner would have asked for the system to be monitored through to an alarm receiving centre as it's a building? I had a fire alarm fault years ago in a nightclub, there was basically water pouring through the ceiling into a smoke head. The ceiling collapsed hours later from the weight of the water etc. I always get the good jobs!!!
@crazyboy2006cashier
@crazyboy2006cashier 4 года назад
nice video, however with closed doors, personally i would have added extra wires and used the zones to split the "area" to save time in activation... or better still fitted an addressable... i realise multiple ways to do things... just the way i would have done it....... open comment... is there enough DB for that area... am sure there is far to few detection devices in that hut too.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Thanks for your input
@KrisHudsonLee
@KrisHudsonLee 4 года назад
I tend to go addressable too. If there's only a couple of zones and the wiring integrity is good it's just a case of linking the ends. You can often use the sounder circuits as your cross path as the sounder circuits will tend to follow the zone circuits.
@philipshaw8180
@philipshaw8180 3 года назад
well done Jordan very impressive work , I think a big help to working is working neat and tidy , keep em coming most enjoyable
@adejupe8308
@adejupe8308 4 года назад
... and judging by the state of the other bodge jobs that you uncovered previously, I hope you checked that those FP cables weren't live!!! I'd imagine one labelled 'call point' may have actually been terminated into an FCU somewhere else in the building!!!!!
@rossmcghie576
@rossmcghie576 4 года назад
What was the need to replace the exsisting panel? Was it not more expensive to change to a new panel?
@jonathanstephens7804
@jonathanstephens7804 4 года назад
much better to replace the panel with a decent quality one with compatible accessories imo.
@HenryLoenwind
@HenryLoenwind 4 года назад
@@jonathanstephens7804 It wasn't about quality, the issue is trust. Seeing what second-hand rubbish was installed in other areas, the existing panel and sensors were just not trustworthy.
@LSUBMX
@LSUBMX 2 года назад
That existing panel was a cb200, at least 20 years old now, the standard recommends a 10 year lifespan for fire panels.
@angusbrown8707
@angusbrown8707 4 года назад
I hope you renewed the mains cable in fp 200 whilst you had the fire alarm panel out.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Not a chance it wasn't possible i'm afraid
@cjkokay
@cjkokay 4 года назад
I laugh at using fire proof cable. Why? Cause the cable to the switch board won't be fire proof so negates the effectiveness of it.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
True
@angusbrown8707
@angusbrown8707 4 года назад
Carl Kokay well on commercial sites we always run a fire tuff (fp 200) from the section board to a fire alarm isolation switch then to the fire alarm panel normally below in fp as well. Then the cable is fire rated from basically point of entry to building to the panel.
@j.w2000
@j.w2000 4 года назад
@@cjkokay true its a waste of requirements, paper and time if you ask me , because your ring main/lighting circut cable isn't fp, its like that the glass on MCPs have to be saftey glass as pepole have cut themselves on the glass, i've had training on how to operate a call point what takes non saftey glass, i've even got a mcp what takes real glass and you can still get the glass for it and the hammer, but chances are of you breaking the glass with your elbow is quite high as pepole nick the hammers.
@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers
@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers 4 года назад
Good vid, informative. Thanks for the details, always appreciated.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@Walterz930
@Walterz930 3 года назад
Really nice video I think the first panel was fitted by a cow boy I am north east uk based and looking at getting into the industry with fire alarms
@anthonybragg
@anthonybragg 4 года назад
Another top video I did not think you could put beacons on the detector circuit? Those cables coming out of the ceiling in the kitchen was probably for a beacon or sounder beacon. What was the fault on zone 1?
@daviddunn782
@daviddunn782 2 года назад
Must be a very rich Scout Group to have such a lovely HQ and be able to have this work done
@andrewdonagher6497
@andrewdonagher6497 4 года назад
Just noticed is there a outside sounder strobe fitted its needed to alart fire brigade to the building and to were the fire panel is located ,good job
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
No there isn't
@fuzyboy45
@fuzyboy45 Месяц назад
What qualification do you need as an electrician to install fire alarms?
@bartman58
@bartman58 4 года назад
Yup!.....the caretaker was nuts😂
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
HAHA
@dc-sd3gd
@dc-sd3gd 4 года назад
Shouldve left the sounders and just fitted a new one on its own circuit above the board
@MrSJT
@MrSJT 4 года назад
Beat me to it
@B3CK377
@B3CK377 4 года назад
I wouldn't have fitted alarm sense but just added the additional sounder above the panel
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
I just added the sounder beacon base in the disabled WC instead of adding a separate sounder circuit in the end.
@stephenlittle7534
@stephenlittle7534 4 года назад
@@artisanelectrics can use hear that sounder from the kitchen or from the toilet ???? I don't think so. That's why he and I said in my other review to put a sounder by the panel. YOU MUST HAVE 2 SOUNDER CIRCUITS.
@richardwhitear7918
@richardwhitear7918 4 года назад
Cracking video, very informative. Please keep up the excellent work.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Many thanks!
@redpilllogic6169
@redpilllogic6169 4 года назад
Coming from a fire alarm enginner neat job Jordan? Very thorough continuity and IR testing also . I wish most of the panels I came to looked like that inside . How have you gone about issuing a modification certificate ?
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Thank you!
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
I just issued a modification certificate as normal
@ashmanelectricalservices4318
@ashmanelectricalservices4318 4 года назад
I bet you were glad to see the back of that job. Nightmare job for you, great job for students or learners as that was such a variety of work there.
@heinzschmitt9661
@heinzschmitt9661 3 года назад
Jesus, what a cowboy install that was before you got there.....
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Yep 🤦‍♂️
@simbamuseka4028
@simbamuseka4028 2 месяца назад
🫣🤠🤠
@lewistempleman9752
@lewistempleman9752 4 года назад
Question, is it possible to do damage to the panel by either using a capacitor in place of a resistor or vice versa, or by shorting out L1 and L2 completely etc.
@ickipoo
@ickipoo 3 года назад
I don't think so, it just messes up the signalling. A bigger question would be whether the panel would survive one of those zones getting connected to 240V! A well designed panel should have some protection, as nearby lightning strikes will induce large transients in the zone wiring, but probably not enough to survive direct connection to the mains.
@RJSFIREALARMS
@RJSFIREALARMS Год назад
fun fact did you now that in the us by code you are not aloud to have a low voltege fa or fire alarm wires next to high voltige wire they have to be at a min of 5 feet away due to if one of the wires is on fire it does not damige the wire next to it . and did you now that fa or fire alarm wire is fire prof and that is why fa wire is red .and i am a fire alarm expert that is why i now this. KEEP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!
@Skidmark1974
@Skidmark1974 Год назад
When you took the checkpoint panel off you should have realised it was a bi-wire and that you needed a bi-wire with alarmsense detection ya sausage
@ecelectrical2004
@ecelectrical2004 3 года назад
great video but did you tape up the ends?
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 года назад
its hard to imagine anyone doing work like that, but there are several scenarios, i cant imagine a proper electrician doing that no matter how rough they are, and i am sure if it was a registered installer an organisation like the scouts would have been in touch with whoever they were or are registered with. Really there should have been detectors in the loft as well, and i guess if the place needed a working fire alarm they shouldn't have been using the building.
@bryankeane2971
@bryankeane2971 4 года назад
Just so you know you need to wire the l1 out terminal also. If you connect the heads incorrectly each head on the next link of wire loses power. Therefore if 1 head is removed all the rest no longer work
@alexanderbuckland
@alexanderbuckland 4 года назад
He demonstrated in the video that when he removed the heads in the hall, the end call point still functioned. Therefore he correctly tested the polarity and this point has been addressed.
@j.k.5370
@j.k.5370 3 года назад
Well Jordan, love your videos. I left sparking in 1996 and in the fire alarm game since. Recently started with a wireless fire alarm company using ems kit. You should check out their new smartcell kit ,30 devices max. 👍Best wished from Ireland.☘
@bumbles1584
@bumbles1584 4 года назад
Sound levels were checked throughout i assume? :)
@alexandersalarms5380
@alexandersalarms5380 4 года назад
I'd bet, its part of the tests.
@dangraves7808
@dangraves7808 4 года назад
I once went to a job to check a fire alarm system which had not operated After a small chip pan fire in a kitchen none of the call points worked and when I opened the panel there was one call point hidden inside it and all the zones had been disconnected! It would have never worked luckily no one was hurt but it just shows you how many cowboys are about installing fire alarms I wouldn’t be able to sleep knowing I’d left a job in that condition
@paulescott4789
@paulescott4789 4 года назад
The surface box in the toilet you have put in does not meet regs, it needs fo be in a metal enclosure and also ceramic connector blocks need to be used on any joints thats have been done
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Interesting thanks
@Sparks0001
@Sparks0001 4 года назад
Why would that be the case when the rest of the fire accessories are plastic with plastic terminals?
@KrisHudsonLee
@KrisHudsonLee 4 года назад
I was going to mention that... I have a nightmare getting ceramic blocks.
@pauljones908
@pauljones908 4 года назад
Ive not done these in a while so correct me if im wrong but the supply was never required to be in FP if it had a battery backup as the batteries keep the supply to the alarm but all the outgoing circuits did to maintain the sounder circuits during the event of a fire? Also the non switched fuse spur was ok as it required a tool to isolate it? Unless regs have changed since.. like i said it has been a while 😂. Like others have said on here i would have left the original sounders and put an addition above the board on a seporate circuit. Still loving the work though, keep them coming and yet again another professional install. Take care and stay safe 👍😁
@paulescott4789
@paulescott4789 4 года назад
It is a requirement for it to be fire rated cable
@pauljones908
@pauljones908 4 года назад
Ive just found it. Below is an extract from BS 5839. Thanks for the info 👍😁 Recommendations for mains power supplies The following recommendations are applicable to the low voltage mains supply to the system. NOTE 1 This supply should be regarded as an integral part of the fire alarm system, particularly for the purpose of certification of the system (see Clause 41), regardless of whether the electrical installation within the building is provided by the organization responsible for installation of the fire alarm system. "All fire alarm cables should be of a single, common colour that is not used for cables of general electrical services in the building, to enable these cables to be distinguished from those of other circuits." NOTE 13 The colour red is preferred. Source URL: www.electriciansforums.net/threads/main-supply-to-fire-alarm-panel.120451/
@112-zuidlimburg6
@112-zuidlimburg6 3 года назад
Hi, I really enjoyed it. Nice video I will later also work at a fire protection company! super nice I also learned something from it !!!! keep it up!!!!
@Ragnar8504
@Ragnar8504 4 года назад
Interesting to see you're using 1.5 mm2 for the zones and sounder circuits! In Austria it's something like 2-core phone wire, very small cross-section and red and black cores, as it's DC. Don't think the only system I've ever looked at (Schrack) has Lin and Lout terminals, it detects missing detector heads by the change of circuit resistance, at least that's what I've been told. All I did was remove one base for about a minute to thread the wires through a hole as the old suspended ceiling was demolished and reconnect it exactly as it'd been before. All work on the system is done by manufacturer service techs. As the loop resistance is stored in the panel you can't even alter the length of any cables without reprogramming the panel.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 4 года назад
Sounds like that might have been an older system apparently the newer ones can detect head removals. Yes I think the UK decided to go with the same size stuff that simplifies installs as it can bounce between low voltage and high voltage and then they only have to stock one kind of cabling. I'm in the US and again telephone wire or similar smaller gauge wire is the tendency here I think that might be to fall under the low voltage requirement and to prevent Mix-Ups.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 4 года назад
Although it is easier to install after the fact so maybe it has to do with when the regulation was written into a requirement to make it easier for after installs
@Amir58852
@Amir58852 2 года назад
Hi, I have a question. Is the Apollo 65 smoke detector, which has a red LED, able to take pictures or videos at the installation site? I would be grateful if you answer
@bongopongo6206
@bongopongo6206 2 года назад
A plastic fire alarm installed by an electrician- Mains in PVC, no zone chart, back boxes absent on the detection, batteries appear undated. There is a current reading taken my applying power to the controls, the the battery is then connected in series with probes on multi meter / clamp meter thing This is reading will is the current taken to charge the just of CEF's shelf batteries, you need to be measuring the quiescent current & current in alarm There is a 4mm earth stud in the control panel, it's designed for a ring crimped onto the CPC, personally I'd remove it & splash out £1.50 on brass earth block
@G0ogs
@G0ogs 4 года назад
The alarm sense/ twin wire base sounder usually requires a link on the base if there is no head installed , I’m sure that might of caught you out, easy mistake , plus did you print the date on the batteries?. You mentioned the zone polarity but should check the head removal fault works, thus will concur polarity . On some twin wire systems the sounders need to be wire in reverse polarity 👍🏼
@jonathanstephens7804
@jonathanstephens7804 4 года назад
great vid. are you getting the system commissioned or doing it yourself?
@charliebillington1
@charliebillington1 4 года назад
Sparks havnt got a clue when it comes to commissioning fire alarms haha ! They think they do !! I have commissioned loads over the years and there is always a snag on every single one
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
I did it myself with some expert help.
@jonathanstephens7804
@jonathanstephens7804 4 года назад
@@artisanelectrics great stuff. The whole commissioning thing used to confuse me. For years the company I worked for (Electrical) wired and installed and then got a fire alarm company in to commission. Being with NIC they have their own commissioning courses and Bafe accreditation but its a hefty price! Where does the law sit with this?
@yeety1208
@yeety1208 4 года назад
26:07 I think the zones (detectors, call points, sounder bases) use capacitors and the sounders use resistors So I think the detector should have a capacitor not a resistor
@FistralG
@FistralG 4 года назад
The pellet with the poison’s in the flagon with the dragon! The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true! What about the chalice from the palace? They broke the chalice from the palace.😁 If you can follow that then you know which needs an end of line resistor and which needs a capacitor. 😂
@stuartbrown2567
@stuartbrown2567 4 года назад
You like to test yourself, bet your glad that’s over. I do EICR and sometimes I do HMOs which have a fire alarm system in them, but I never touch them as I do not have any experience in them, any advice on what I should do at the moment I always advise the customer they need a fire alarm expert. Also in one of your videos you said you had done a review on a Kewtech tester but I cannot seem to find it just interested what you thought as I use one.
@kenfla82
@kenfla82 4 года назад
Would you not of disconnected the sounder circuits when testing the heads and mcp? Saves you having to have your ears blown off you. The visual indication on the panel will also verify the sounder has been activated so no need for the sore ears.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Good tip
@kenfla82
@kenfla82 4 года назад
@@artisanelectrics it's what we do whenever we are servicing fire systems. Saves the ears 😂
@MohammedMuhhamin-vq6ok
@MohammedMuhhamin-vq6ok Год назад
I love your video
@muzikman2008
@muzikman2008 4 года назад
Good work sir...painful as it was :-D There's better, flusher, floor boxes than those suitable for the socket, but hey ho, money is tight i suppose.When i first started watching you messing with the alarm panel, ithought..."end of line capacitors?...theyr'e normally resistors" lol..ah well got the job done.
@markr452
@markr452 Год назад
Brilliant 👏
@petaks01
@petaks01 3 года назад
Thanks for an interesting series
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@scottterrell33
@scottterrell33 4 года назад
Apollo do a great app helps you with the regs for future fire alarm jobs mate I bet you did not expect it to unravel as bad as that. I also think that the sounder types are different ( they must be the same sound type and the toilet should have been a vad to en54-23 so that may be an issue Its horrible when you have to try and make the best of it I felt your pain.
@tomorichard
@tomorichard 4 года назад
Scott Terrell thats most likely what the alarm circuit was doing in the wc that got a joint box on.
@sediqullahnaiem9987
@sediqullahnaiem9987 4 года назад
What did you connect with first manual call points ...it looks u terminates them in wago connectors ...then how would first manual call point work then.??..
@adejupe8308
@adejupe8308 4 года назад
Good call doing IR on the cables too. Can ya tell I'm commenting as I watch?! ;)
@owen0314
@owen0314 2 года назад
thank you for sharing, I really need to know about the fire alarm system installation.
@trainsinkansas576
@trainsinkansas576 4 года назад
Outstanding.
@linossinkala7840
@linossinkala7840 4 года назад
Hey lovely video, all your videos are inspiring as am an electrician as well.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Thanks!
@tent7014
@tent7014 4 года назад
Forgive my ignorance but why is there a need for resistors and capacitors in the 'end of line' kit ? Great vid... dib dib dib
@edcooper2396
@edcooper2396 4 года назад
So the system knows if a cable becomes cut
@tent7014
@tent7014 4 года назад
@@edcooper2396 thx
@elektrikeren5049
@elektrikeren5049 4 года назад
They Way you did the ISO-test, don’t tell you If you have a leak to Earth.😬 But otherwise a Nice job.💪🏻🇩🇰
@Sparks0001
@Sparks0001 4 года назад
Do you mean on the fire cable? - 17:45 he did an IR test with one lead on brown and blue together, and the other lead on earth
@davidirvine6035
@davidirvine6035 3 года назад
Hi Guys, after watching this I have a question. I work with roller shutter and also Fire roller shutter, from a fire test, how often would you recommend the client carrys out a full fire drop test on the roller shutter?
@Liberator975
@Liberator975 3 года назад
I guess that should be done in consideration of testing the alarm and where it is in the building. Different areas require different regulation 😊
@davidirvine6035
@davidirvine6035 3 года назад
@@Liberator975 Thanks , we have always said to our clients that they must check the fire shutter under fire conditions, but they always seem to bypass the shutters.
@nickbedingfield1699
@nickbedingfield1699 3 года назад
Is the floor socket permanent live or was there a switch on the wall.(maybe i missed that ) ??
@HeresMo
@HeresMo 3 года назад
I'm glad you found the call points, could have been some serious loss of life if there was a fire. Tragic install, really hate cowboy sparks, unless they were wireless call points which I doubt.
@airlitex6488
@airlitex6488 4 года назад
Great series. Just binge watched the lot and enjoyed your trials and tribulations from start to finish. Thanks for explaining everything so well as you went along too. :-)
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Awesome thanks for watching!
@paul_my_plumbs_uk
@paul_my_plumbs_uk 4 года назад
Will we ever see the end of this hell hut?? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🤣🤣🤣
@stevecraft00
@stevecraft00 4 года назад
Special place in hell for people who put a sounder above the panel. Sorry. 😂 but how do you hear the panel key beeps when theres a sounder above the panel?
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 4 года назад
Lol Yes although when I first started reading I was thinking you were going to talk about the installer who did the previous work?
@pixelitconsulting2036
@pixelitconsulting2036 3 месяца назад
with the ctec cfp if you take the cover off you can enter walk test where it automatically silences itsself after it has cleared instead of manually resetting it
@bangkokhomes
@bangkokhomes 3 года назад
Top of the line Electrician
@williamdennis2545
@williamdennis2545 3 года назад
What codes are you required to follow for installing this system and what licenses do you need?
@Mok-l5i
@Mok-l5i 3 года назад
Brilliant video thanks
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@jordanmcivor7688
@jordanmcivor7688 4 года назад
Very interesting work keep it up 😀
@An_Official_Scratcher
@An_Official_Scratcher Год назад
The easiest way to do a battery load test: grab a multi-meter, connect + of multi-meter to + of battery, then connect - of multi-meter and connect to - of battery. Make sure the multi-meter is set on DC VOLTAGE, It may not work on AC Voltage. Also, Put zone labels next to each device, It'll make it easier to point out which device goes to what zone in future maintenance.
@RWATraineeElectrician
@RWATraineeElectrician 4 года назад
Has Dan Jackson seen this? If so, he must be having nightmares over the bodge job from the previous spark 😱😱😱
@fst1775
@fst1775 4 года назад
Awesome video!
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Thanks!
@fst1775
@fst1775 4 года назад
No problem I enjoy your fire alarm videos!
@heffo1992
@heffo1992 4 года назад
Does the fire alarm dial out to the Fire Brigade?
@fst1775
@fst1775 4 года назад
With some panels you can get a dialler on it.
@M16iVeNoM
@M16iVeNoM 4 года назад
Is there no devices in the roof space?
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
No, not needed. Its just a loft.
@M16iVeNoM
@M16iVeNoM 4 года назад
Artisan Electrics , no worries dude thought I’d ask as when I’ve installed full systems myself previously (F/A designed by others) roof voids above I think 600mm have always needed them if there’s a detector below ceiling
@KrisHudsonLee
@KrisHudsonLee 4 года назад
@@artisanelectrics not technically your judgement call. Careful with that! Only a fire risk assessment can make that call, and if you decide it doesn't need them then it's on your neck if something goes wrong. This is why so many of my electrician friends are totally backing out of doing fire alarms. Too much at stake.
@antonios4926
@antonios4926 4 года назад
Can smoke detectors be sited on the wall or 5 meters high in a warehouse that is 7.5 m high? Please help
@fallofmanbrand
@fallofmanbrand 4 года назад
nice video bro
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 4 года назад
Thanks
@robjustaguy
@robjustaguy Год назад
Why only fit strobes in the loo? We have them in every room. What if your deaf and alone in the kitchen or hall?
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