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I’m somewhat new to fire emblem and confused. so lucina refuses to kill robin even before chrom gets there. What was on her mind when she thought of killing robin and why did she refuse to kill robin?
4:35, I’m crying right now! The fact that he wants her to find someone else who cares for her after his death is making me sob! Robin really does love Lucina.
The music cue when Lucina tells Robin that he is Chrom’s future murderer was so sad, like Robin cares for Chrom, they were the best of friends, and for Robin to realize he would one day be the one to take his life broke his heart, and his heart broke more when he realized that Lucina, the woman he loved (in this instance) would be the one to take his life, but in the end, he’d rather die for the woman he loves and the friend he cares about than live knowing he may one day kill his friend, which is why he accepts Lucina’s judgement
As soon as the option for accepting Lucina’s judgement popped up... I just quickly straight up went with “yes” without hesitation because I would rather die saving a friend or loved one instead of living just to be mind controlled into taking a life of my friends or loved ones (no matter if it’s in a game &/or in real life... I would risk my well being & hell even my own life to save innocent people, friends, loved ones &/or other heroes)!
Awakening may not be my favorite FE game but I love that this scene in particular is the only thing that actually changes based on player choice. Chrom will interrupt if Robin is Lucinas mother, Robin will make his peace if he’s Lucinas husband I just enjoy that so much
@@elizabethcamargo5495 Exacto, ya sea si Robin es madre, pareja o nada relacionado con Lucina, esta escena sigue. Solo cambian los diálogos para los correspondientes escenarios (madre o pareja)
If this game ever gets remade, I hope the new hardware allows for a better cinematic of this scene. If I were talented or had the money, I would see the scene play out in a spectacular fashion, reflecting every choice, or at least one where Lucina drops her sword and cries, only to be embraced by her husband Robin.
As soon as the mind control thing happened, I instantly thought “I am a massive compromise, it’d probably be better if I was left behind or something” and then this scene happened Wow
I thought of a Robcina story for this. However, in this story Morgan didn't arrive at this world, Robin and Lucina haven't married yet but they were lovers, and when this judgement scene occurred, Chrom wasn't in the field to witness Lucina threatening Robin. Lucina refused to kill Robin, but she asked him to leave for "betraying" the Shepherds. She also harshly declared the end of their relationship due to his Fell blood, and told him that she didn't want to see his face again, before she stormed back to the camp without even looking back. Robin felt hurt but agreed to leave the Shepherds for good. A few days later, the Shepherds were starting to worry due to Robin's disappearance. Some of them assumed that Robin had defected from Ylisse and joined the Grimleal. However, without a strategist to plan out strategy and manage logistics, the army would be ruined in the future. Knowing the dire consequences of her action, Lucina began feeling guilty. Hence she secretly admitted to her parents that she had forced Robin to disband from the Shepherd due to him being a potential threat. Initially, Chrom didn't want to forgive Lucina for that mistake. But due to what she had experienced in the future, he forgave her. Ever since Robin left, Chrom didn't dare to launch any skirmishes or missions as he feared the risk of losing one or more Shepherds due to the lack of their tactician to lead them. Meanwhile, Robin united with Basillo in secret. Basillo, who was assumed to be dead by the Shepherds, had brought his Feroxian troops on Robin's request to confront Validar and retrieve the Fire Emblem. They marched to the Dragon's table and ended Validar's life. As usual, they encountered Grima in human form before witnessing him turning into his dragon form. After their escape, Robin asked Basillo to bring the Fire Emblem to Chrom, and inform him regarding everything that had happen in the Dragon's Table while he will go to find Naga by himself to get a solution to kill Grima. By the time the Shepherds received the Fire Emblem and also heard from Basillo about what Robin was going to do, they quickly went to find Naga. There weren't any Risen at Mount Prism before they met Naga. After the ritual, Naga told the Shepherds that Robin was already on his way to Grima. Before that, after wiping out the Risen at Mount Prism all by himself, he met her to ask for some ways to defeat Grima. After she laid out the solutions, he chose to confront Grima by himself and slay him. After she told the Shepherds that Robin could kill Grima once and for all, the Shepherds cheered. However, she added that due to Robin's heart is the same as Grima's heart, killing Grima would kill him as well, and the possibility of returning back alive is little to none. The Shepherds were stunned by this. Chrom was angry of his best friend's selfless act while Lucina was remorse over what she had done to the person she loved. Lucina begged Naga to teleport the Shepherds onto Grima's back as well, which Naga agreed. As the Shepherds were about to be teleported onto Grima's back, they saw Grima's dragon form crashing down to the ground. Naga told them that Robin has successfully struck the killing blow on Grima. Panicked, the Shepherds went to search for Robin among the ruins caused by Grima's descend. They eventually found a Robin, his broken body covered with wounds and blood, laying on his own puddle of blood in the midst of the crash zone. He was dying, as he was gasping for air and struggling to stay awake. The Shepherds immediately rushed to aid Robin, the healers healed him with all the energy they had, but the wounds couldn't be mended. Chrom tearfully cradled the tactician and angrily yelled at him for pulling out a selfless act before begging him to stay awake. On the other hand, Lucina held Robin's head with both of her hands and kept on apologizing tearfully to him for what she had done to him and begged him to stay with her. Robin spent his remaining energy to lift his only undamaged arm to caress Lucina's cheek and gave his last words: "I..... did this...... so that the future children......will be safe....So that...... you will be...... happy..." before he shut his eyes and faded away to the air. The Shepherds weren't joyous but devastated after Robin's death. Lucina, on the other hand, was worse. She went hysterical and screamed in agony shortly after Robin faded away. She was surrounded by her father, mother, sister, close friends and other Shepherds as they tried to console and calm her down. A few days after their return to Ylisstol, Lucina was severely depressed and spent most of her days on Robin's bed, in Robin's room in the castle. That was because she could smell his scent on the bed. A grand funeral for Robin was held in Ylisstol. In the middle of delivering her speech, Lucina suddenly fainted due to the overwhelming sorrow. As days passed, Lucina was a broken lady. She didn't practice sword fighting and also didn't trained with the army regiment like she did regularly before Grima was defeated. She didn't even take pride in holding Falchion anymore. After Robin's death, she was disgusted by the sight of her own Falchion, as it reminded her of her duties to safeguard the future, which only turned her into a cold heartless beast that pushes away any affections being given to her by anyone aside of her family members. She also attempted to end her own life many times but kept failing. Deep inside her heart, every time she failed to take her own life, she thanked Naga for it and also hoped that Robin could return to the world to be with her. 2 years later, a man in a black hooded coat (Not the Grimleal coat) woke up in a field. He didn't know what happened to him and why he was even sleeping on that field in the beginning. Confused, he wondered around by himself until he had reached a city, Ylisstol. Once he entered, he felt happy upon seeing the citizens who were minding their own business peacefully, though he didn't know the reason for his happiness. He walked through the streets until he had reached the castle gate. A guard saw him and asked him to identify himself. The man told the guard that he didn't know his own name. After a moment, the guard decided to inform the guards' captain regarding the mysterious man. Meanwhile, Lucina was in the castle's courtyard doing some gardening work with her aunt Lissa as a way to overcome her depression. Lucina was being heavily monitored by a few guards due to her many attempts to commit suicide. While they were gardening, a guard arrived at the courtyard and informed the guards' captain regarding a mysterious man at the gate. Lucina overheard their conversation. After he had described the mysterious man's features, Lucina immediately stood up and made a run for the gate, leaving Lissa and a few guards who were shocked by her sudden action behind. "It must be Robin...... It will be! He has finally returned to me! Oh Naga thank you THANK YOU!", Lucina thought to herself while she was running, ignoring the yells of Lissa and the guards who were chasing after her as they feared that she would do something to hurt or kill herself. As she reached the castle entrance, she stopped and saw the mysterious man waiting patiently at the castle gate with his hoodie down. After inspecting and recognizing his facial features from afar, she smiled from ear-to-ear warmly as tears flowed down from her eyes, and yelled "ROBIN!" which caught his attention before she laughed happily and ran towards him. She was about to tackle him for hug, but was stopped in her tracks when the man smiled and held out his hand with the intention of shaking her hand before saying "Good morning, madam. My name is Robin. May I know yours?"
Heh... I thought Lucina disappeared during Grima's fall, yet she stayed. Kind of a horrible ending right there, losing his memories.. again? I don't accept the ending XD.
@@TheReminiscentalOne it's a sad ending. The Robin returned to the world as the amnesiac Robin just like the beginning of the game, except he woke up on his own. He didn't know who he is throughout his journey to Ylisstol until when Lucina yelled Robin at the castle gate. Lucina was broken after realizing that her decision to kick her loved one out of the Shepherds has led him to kill Grima for the better good. She became too depressed to the point that she's not interested in fighting and also adventuring back to her world or elsewhere in the world she's in. Due to lack of traveling, her fighting skills deteriorated. She couldn't forgive herself and half of her mind told her to suicide while another half told her to stay in that world and hope that Robin returns so that they could become couples.
The good ending is Robin returned and remembered every moment of him with the Shepherds. So he went back to Ylisstol, surprised a few Shepherds before going to the castle for the last surprise. His return surprised Chrom and his family except the older Lucina. After a few reunion hugs from the family members, Chrom told Robin about Lucina's condition, so Robin went to visit Lucina's room. As he entered, an alerted Lucina quickly grabbed her a sword. But as she realized it was Robin, she quickly tackled him to the ground and greeted him with a long warm hug. Then they had some dramatic tear jerking conversations, and then Robin confessed his love to Lucina and put a ring on her finger, spent the night with each other, married a few weeks later, left the castle to live in a house somewhere near the castle, "made" Morgan and have a family. The end.
@@zennoix9984 Bad ending seems to be off the line. Never knew Lucina was too emotional that she tried to attempt a suicide.. seems off the story, I'll suggest her to go to the outrealm *trying* to go back to her original world (Which is currently destroyed.) due to depression. The good ending is estimatedly "accurate". Why not make a fanfiction story of FE Awakening anyways? You seemed to be a great author for the story :P
@@dheerajs.a3227 o okay that’s nice of her that she couldn’t do it to robin. It’s nice that she decided on her own Choice without chrom intervention. Chrom shows up when the whole thing is over. Thanks Dheeraj SA for the input 😁
I found this scene super deep and emotional until I realized that this is literally Lucina killing Robin before Robin gets a chance to take their own life at the end of the game, thus sparing the whole Grima battle...
To be fair, Robin's dematerialization was only temporary. Prematurely killing Robin would only force them to temporarily seal Grima instead of permanently killing him. Furthermore, Lucina could have simply told Robin that he kills Chrom, and Robin could have devised a plan to change his fate (This is basically what happened in-game). I'd even go as far as to say that Lucina wouldn't even need to tell him, as Robin's dream at the beginning of the game would have been a sufficient warning.
I would accept my beloved lucina's judgement as long as she has a wonderful future where she smiles everyday...even if I am not around, 😌 her happiness Is my goal in life.
Chrom : there's no need. [...] *I heard every word* Did he heard about their relationship too ? I mean, Chrom is not supposed to know that his best friend is his son-in-law right ?
I would rather have the games before be remade, like Blazing blade(have Mark as an actual character), Sacred Stones and Binding Blade before we get to this.
Personally I'd love a Genealogy of the Holy Wars Remake(so I can play it officially rather then emulations), but the plot itself kinda makes that impossible...shame it centers so much of the plot on incestuous mind control/rape and child murder, otherwise it'd have a shot
This scene kinda spoiled my experience. During this my jaw dropped the whole time and I was amazed they would even bother adding that in. But then nothing like that ever happened again sadly
I love putting Robin and Lucina together, they are a perfect couple. Even though Lucina pointed her weapon at him, he still loved her and wanted her to be safe and happy.
my first expirience with this scene is male robin, not married to lucina and...I'll be honest, dispite the character reflecting me as I made him, putting myself in the narative, I said yes to it, because I believed Lucina was right, in order for the events from the prologue to be averted I'd have to die, I was ready in the games narative to be killed off in the story and see what happens. To be honest, due to how chrom steps in and yell at her to lower her blade makes it my favorite choice in this moment.
SPOILERS Robin tells Lucina he loves Chrom as much as he loves Lucina, but that she asks too much. Lucina decides to fight Robin for the judgement, but Robin tells Lucina he would rather die than point a blade at his wife. Lucina tells Robin Chrom will die and that something must be done, but Robin tells Lucina that he will love her no matter what, and Lucina will again put her blade down and apologize to Robin.
Doesn't matter. The real Lucina is still an infant, but the Lucina who came from the future is legal and can decide whether she wanna marry someone from that timeline she went back to or people from her original timeline (the Shepherds' children). So Robin said he loves her and she gave the same respond and also consent for him to enter between her legs.
It's pretty weird, but the only pertinent problem I see with marrying a friend's child is the age gap. However, since this Lucina is from the future/another timeline, she's probably around the same age as this timeline's Robin.
2:18 Oh... I see... 4:00 I understand... Kill me if you must, darling... but please... kiss me just once before I go. 4:22 I refuse to be the weapon that kills your father and breaks your heart. Of course I don't want to go, but I would hate hurting either of you far more than dying. 4:33 Swear to me you will find a way to be happy again after this. So long as you can do that truthfully, I'll not resist. 4:55 It's not like this is goodbye forever, we'll find each other again on the other side. 5:20 It's okay... I forgive you. Remember what I promised you, darling. One way or another, we will defy your destiny.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Im so confused, Lucina is F! Robin's and Chrome's daughter and M! Robin marries Lucina, this is kinda fucking weird, it looks like a cute relationship, but... At this point she isn't even born yet and it's too Pedo for me and Robin is his mother in another universe so.. WTF
As sweet as this was, I still can't believe they let you marry the kids. They have to go back to their timeline after and in the current timeline most of them aren't even born yet (or, if they are born, they aren't mentioned.) So what happens after they leave? Does Robin just wait for them to grow up to get together, grooming them until then? Or do they just treat the kids going back as them basically dying, and therefore don't expect to get with the new child? I honestly just don't see how they could justify allowing your character to marry them.
Eight month old comment but I'm gonna answer it anyways just to flex a lil because I actually know the answer, the child units don't go back to their original future at all. In several of their endings they tend to recluse away from the world if they're not paired. Gerome is probably the most extreme example because his whole character is he's being broody about not technically having a place to exist in present day. I think his precise ending is he goes off to live in Wyvern Valley alone until he dies, Lucina kind of just disappears and presumably finds some quiet corner of the world to exist in, et cetera. Even in the Fates DLC with Inigo, Odin, and Severa, when Anankos grants their wish of proper burial and honoring of the dead from their future, they outright state they will never get the chance to see the wish fulfilled. The short version I guess would be that once the future units cross into the past, they become part of that past itself.
@@coffee9146 Wait what?! I could've sworn they all go back in the end and that's why Morgan was never found later on (since he's supposed to be with Grima or whatever.) I didn't know they stayed in the future. I don't get why they would stay though because now they can't be with their family, which was one of the reasons they went to the past, isn't it? To keep their family alive? And now I'm even more confused because Lucina said her father was the one who taught her how to fight, but he died after Grima attacked. Grima started his attack with killing Chrom while Lucina was a baby, so how did he teach her how to fight? Unless, Grima attacked earlier because of the kids being there? Anyway, despite it being 8 months old, I really appreciate the comment. Thank you
@@Murder.Of.Crows. It's my understanding there just flatly isn't a way to return to the bad future the child units come from at all. It's treated like something pretty much unheard of, pulling from that Fates DLC again, after you beat it Anankos gives Inigo, Odin, and Severa all a few pearls that would allow them to select a timeline and a place to go, basically allowing them and JUST them to return to the bad future and see their wish if they wanted. In fact I think all three of their endings in Fates goes something like "They disappeared one day with their partner, and nobody ever heard from them or saw them again." Basically soft confirming that they used them to return to one of two Awakening timelines. So combined with the knowledge that Naga was the one to send Lucina and co. back in time in the first place, it seems like Dragons are the only thing that can afford this power to mortal dudes. On top of that, child units don't return to the past to change the future, they go to the past to become a part of it and create a new future. Awakening timeline stuff is treated like you're on a linear path that you can change, and once you do, it's a new timeline. So once the war on Grima is over and Chrom wins on your save file, the child units don't disappear and then reappear back in a fixed version of their original world, they just continue to exist in the one they beat Grima in. A good way to demonstrate is the Future Past DLC, where Naga sends Chrom and his army to fix a different version of their current timeline where Grima just resurrected and they weren't prepared to beat him and everyone just died, basically a bad ending scenario for your current game. The point being, several versions of the same series of events play out in tandem with each other, which, on a meta level, is also kind of the reason Robin can be so vastly different each time you play, why you can see several different sets of S support, you're seeing a different version of the Awakening series of events each time you set a new file. As far as Morgan goes, my understanding is that they come from a different version of the future than everyone else, namely the bad ending future of the file you play. In the Future Past DLC, Robin and both Morgans appear as high ranking brainwashed grimleal. I think your Morgan is designed to be one of them, suffering the same brain damage going through Naga's time portal because Naga and Grima do not mix, it's the same thing that blew up Robin and made him lose his memories. Their ending also reads just as like "Morgan's memories never returned, but they didn't care and just went on adventures n shit." I think the way the 10 year gap is presented is also just really confusing, at least in the localization. Because Lucina will constantly reference the bad future happening in 10 years, it doesn't initially make a lot of sense, one, because the child units are clearly not 10, and two, because Grima resurrects only two years after Lucina comes to the past combined with how they talk about how fast Grima and the Risen killed everything, it reads like they've been living orphaned for like another 10 years. I think what ACTUALLY happens is some combination of either Grima's assault not being nearly as fast as described and giving them a few years to grow up with their parents, Grima's resurrection happening much later down the line when Validar's plans don't get screwed over, maybe he just takes longer to bring Grima to life, or just a mistranslation of the exact timing of everything. I think generally, after the war with Valm is over, the army gets like two or three years to have all their kids, they grow up to be like ten, Grima resurrects and all the first generation units of Chrom's army die, then another ten years goes by until Naga sends them into the past to stop Grima.
@@coffee9146 How interesting! The game had a lot more to it than I originally thought. Though this whole Robin blew up and lost his memories thing, what do you mean by that? I took it that grima went back in time with the kids and Robin is there, much like how the kids go back and their younger selves are still there. They're the exact same person, just at different times. I've played the game 3 times fully but it's been a bit, so I forgot a lot. But now thinking about it, I think I actually know what you meant. So is this it: Grima goes back in time with them, the time thing malfunctions, and then because he lost his memories, he "becomes" Robin again? And then Vlad wakes up the Grima side of him again, making another copy of Robin, and uses it to try and convince OG Robin to become Grima again. That's how it is, isn't it? I can't fully remember if we see Vlad waken Grima or not, but I don't remember there being the two Robins.
@@coffee9146 I think maybe he brings Grima back faster. I can't remember if they ever mentioned Grima knowing about the kids going back in time or not, but if they did (or at least hinted it) then he probably told Valm to speed up the process. That or Valm was upset with them messing with his plans, that maybe he just said screw it and skipped to the finale of bringing back Grima. OR he just happened to find whatever materials he needed to bring Grima back sooner, if the kids can change the timeline then so can he. Though, finding the materials about 10 or so years sooner than before does seem like a bit of a stretch.
