We sell firewood using these same bags. Charge by the face cord plus 13$ for deposit on the bag. Customer returns with a empty bag and we load them a fresh bag for the following seasons firewood. Often they buy multiple bags. Customers love them because they move them around themselves. We load the bags off the end of the processor. Skid steer just sets the full bag down and goes and grabs another bag and sits under the conveyor. Fills up very quickly.
Love that idea Shifty! Great to see Amanda and the Little Boss Man helping out. I love the way you guys work together. Family time- Truly heart-warming!
Great video! Never saw anyone post a video of those. One thing great about you is your always open to ideas. I think that’s the the “cool”part with your channel. Just like what you say at the end of your videos. You share ideas. Keep it up!
I've always thought bags are the way to go, it saves so much time and energy from handling the wood over and over. I will be picking up a bunch myself soon.
Those bags are common enough around here. Usually big producers use those. They put a sheet of plastic on the inside on top and then tie them up and store outside 2 bags high. Since they are loosely in there and the material lets air through, they season just fine. They are reusable, too, which is another plus. The companies have special jacks/manual fork lift types of things to deliver them anywhere the bags fit through, definitly a nice service.
I've seen them stacked 2 high in places as well...that option for me however I think is out of the question....hahaha....I can only get one lifted about 12" or so off the ground. 👍😀🍻
@@rogerl8488 Not sure I am a help, since I live in germany. The company is called "repack much" and is from Austria (not Australia) and their website is brennholz.at. The bags are
Dan, be careful of your forks, you don't hit your head on them. You are tall enough to cut your head. This is a great idea. I want to know who sells you the small wood bags.
Little boss man thought you were making a tent for him , then he gets a hole in one loading the first piece, cool, I notice the amazing Amanda is faster than you, you need to get in shape so you can keep up with her. Would love to spend a day being a wood hound, closest I came was hauling logs and wood. Keep safe my friends keep the videos coming I look forward to them.
I wonder how those bags will hold up in the weather, might work out nicely. Always trying new things is how you find the best way. I’ve seen bags like that here in Pennsylvania they are used for anthracite coal . Great video and thanks for sharing!
I think those bags are great. The best part about bags or totes is it keeps the wood easy to move, which when experimenting with wood yard layout, is essential. I like the totes too, but when the bag isnt in use it can be rolled up for storage and it would be easier to dump a bag of wood into the trailer for delivery than dumping a tote. I think you could build a rack to hold the bag while filling.
I have seen racks used for loading them and yeah I like being able to move them around and then unload them. Good point on the storage of them when not in use...fold em up and they don't take up space! 👍😀🍻
Just a thought... What if you staged the tote bag next to the log splitter. Then go straight into the tote bag with the just split pieces of wood. Write a date on the tate bag.
Good morning Back 40 Family. Pretty slick operation you have there. The bags look like a great way to store the wood. Always trying to improve the firewood processing operation.
Thanks, yeah the bags look like they'll be a good option if needed. I have to see how they do for seasoning, seems like the airflow would be good but definitely not as much as the IBC tote.
I use them last week and i stack 1 face cord before filling the big bag. I need To over load the bag To be able 1 face cord inside, but i make it! I use a firewood processor with convoyer to fill the bag.
We will see the results a year from now. I like your thought process. I'd take a sharpie and write the date and the moisture content of the top chunks to check the progress.
Nor sure about keeping it that way but I have a seed plant that will get a dumpster full of them to haul away every year. They are called mini bulk bags. Good show man.
Great video Dan. Now we wait to see how the Wood dries in the bags. Should do a moisture test now and then again in like 3 then 6 months and then a year. 👍🏻
I like your new video today you guys did a really good job a little my son is getting a little bit better each day still pray for us you did a really good job today buddy
You must not have seen my conveyor in the video...I had 2 of them loading the wood into the bags....lol. I'm gonna see how the few I have work out, but if this ends up being a storage solution I decide to go with I think I'll definitely need a conveyor.👍😀🍻
That seems pretty reasonable for those bags; they look to be pretty good quality. Capacity-wise, more than enough room for a face cord stacked but how ya/why do that? But going by the 70% rule puts capacity of firewood back down to 35 cubic feet...but hey, that's a Joe cord right?!
For storing this seems like a pretty handy system. It will definitely reduce your wood handling time/energy. I am not sure how much the wood will dry in those bags though.
The hot ticket would be to set the splitter in front of a conveyor, and have the forks holding a bag to drop into. The problem I see with this is it would be a contained pile of wood, and wouldn’t be a full load/ face cord by volume. So either your customers wouldn’t receive what they think they are purchasing or you would have to stack into the totes manually and let them decide.
In the UK we use these bags all the time, but they tend to be 1 metre cubed or similar, I've just sourced some fully meshed nylon bags which are 4ft x 4ft x 4ft, I store my split firewood in them on a pallet and deliver to customers using the same, saves on handling, you do need to cover the top when seasoning to keep rain off, but leave an air gap.
@@randywilson6869 not all customers will deal in “ rough said amounts”, and generally want more then what they are paying for. And this is understandable in today’s economy, but it has its potential potential also.
That’s actually a “cord face” also known a a half cord or a rik. We’ve been using these non woven bags to store and move firewood since about 2012. If you get good ones they’ll last about 10 years.
Nice one! You might want to position the bags in such a way that the sides do not touch to optimize airflow, though. A few centimetres worth of space would do the trick, I suppose
these bags are great for one time use in selling 1 face cord to a customer. they are easy to load and deliver to customer and you dont have to see it again . and you said it it fits 1 face cord
Hi Dan I’ve got the same bags I get them where I work they come with sugar They work great But on the bag it says keep out of the sunlight and rain My company throws away 30 bags a day Thanks for posting Take care my friend
Great video Dan! I’ve always been curious as to how those bags would work, especially with the limited lift capacity of smaller tractors like ours! Curious to see how they will hold up after repeated loading/unloading. Do they have the ability to be dumped from the bottom? Problem I run into with my IBC totes is unloading into my dump trailer for deliveries. 👍🏼🍻
I was thinking the same thing. There was a red strap at the bottom. Maybe put the bag in your dump trailer, tip it on its side and then use a fork to catch the bottom strap and upend the bag. I hope Dan lets us know
Dan you sold me. I just ordered 4 6paks. So 24 of these bags in total for $300 at Northern Woodsmen. That was the volume discount. I filled up 36 large IBC totes this year and was not looking forward to the cost of more. I also purchased the Stihl 500i. Love it 😍
Nice video Dan. I like those bags better then what I have. Link for bags? That drawstring is nice. Now cut a step out. Have the bags set up on the tractor while splitting right into it. That will save you tons of time!! Wood dries faster in bags!!! Do those bags have straps on the bottom? If so you can load into trailer and dump the bag out by the bottom straps. Easy loading and unloading.
Thanks...the link to them is in the description of the video. They do have a strap on the bottom for tipping/dumping them out. We'll see how they work, seems like a good option so far.
Looks good but I would put some plastic on top to protect it from the rain. also these bags will not last last if you leave them in the sun. I have use similar bags for the last 15 years and the sun eats them up and they start to fall apart. Good luck but in my opinion stacking wood the old fashion ways is the cheap's and best way but lots of work. trying new things makes live more interesting but sometime the old way is just fine. good luck with those bags and I wood keep them on pallets and when they start falling apart you will still have the skids to move them around. in the sun 2 years life max. I have used 1500 to 2000 bags in the last 15 years
Love the idea so you have a link where you get your bags? Now a IBC tote stacked is 1/3 of cord....its less loose....I like the idea have a bag that hold the face cord loose which takes away the stacking an labor!!
Cool Video. First time I have seen anyone use the Bags. Not a bad option, although you are lifting each piece pretty high. Maybe bungie the back straps to the fork frame and tilt the front down for the first half of the filling to lower that front edge?
Yep, the loading is the part of the process I need to look into and see what is gonna work best. Think the bags might work out well....might not be the only way, but a good option.👍😀🍻
@@Back40Firewood I ordered a set of the big bags from your link. I have 4 of the totes full, but have another cord plus split in a big pile now. I can get more totes, but they are an hour away, and this looks like a good option at a good price.
I use almost the same bags for four years now and i like 'm a lot. Mine are a little smaller 1mx1mx1,2m aprox 3x3x4foot. and they have a bottom that can open by pulling a rope loose. So you can hang 'm with the forks over a trailer or somthing and pull the rope and it aal falls out. I bought mine in neighbour country Germany, of Amazon or Ebay. Over there it's called "Brennholzsack"
The ICB tote will last many many years, I think maybe 3 years on the bags, the UV light of the sun will Kill them in time, if they had Black Bags with Black Carbon they will last longer. But in saying that I love the Bag idea, Stay Save and I am ready for the recount, lol
Looks like if the bags are cheaper than the IBC totes it's a good solution to storage for you. Question are the conducive to working in the structure that your boiler is in? Good luck and stay safe.
YES THE BAG R GOOD USE THEM IN SCAP YARED EWAYS FARM ALL KIND OF STUFF AND IF U HAVE A PLACE NERE U THAT MAKE PLAICA TOTES ASK THEM IF THEY GOT REJECK FOR SALE CHEEP
Looking forward to learning if they hold up under long term use, whether they are UV resistant and how much damage rodents will inflict. Also as a safety warning: Please be careful around the ends of those forks! I have a long scar on the top of my skull that required lots of stitches. I was standing too close and dropped something on the floor. When I bent down........... Blood everywhere.
Ohh ouch! Yeah that's the 1st thing I thought of when the forks were up in the air, banging into it with my head. I've seen racks they make for holding the bags up & open so you don't need to use the tractor's pallet forks.
How will the fabric last in the weather? In Australia bulk animal feed such as starter for baby chickens come in a similar bag (called a bulka bag). They can be scrounged second hand
Time will tell how they weather. I've heard fairly well. These bags are a bit different from bulk bags for feed and such that they have larger woven air openings. I think if you put feed in these bags it would spill out from the air flow openings. They're made just for wood.
I've watched other countries use these bags for quite some time, a good option. What will you do to close the top of the bag a bit more? Otherwise, rain/snow is going to get in... thanks for sharing!
I'm thinking of putting the wood pile tarps over the tops of them...the tarps are 4 feet wide so should work great for covering them and still leaving the sides open.
I use those red firewood bags as well, from northwest manufacturing I think right? Something like that. Anyways, they are a great solution. I also recommend the green mesh bags designed to hold corn, customers have told me they prefer the length of them (there's a long area of empty bag at the top which forms a perfect handle) as it makes it super easy to carry bundles. Check them out at Harris seed farm website! Would love to get your thoughts!
Get some pool noodles from dollar tree and create a fork guard that you can slip on the end of the forks after putting the bags on .. eliminate the risk ..!!
Hey Peter...welcome to the channel and the Back 40! Appreciate ya being here. The main reason I'm not a huge fan of the bags is just the hassle for me loading them. I think the wood seasoned fine inside, but not having a proper set up for loading will probably keep me from using them again.
Yeah I don't like having the loader that high with weight on it...and I ended up being maxed out on the height I could lift and the bag was only like a foot off the ground...lol👍😀🍻
The bags are a bit cheaper at around $18 I think with shipping...totes depending on where you get them can run up to $25-30. Just not sure yet how the bags are gonna do for drying and seasoning the wood inside them.
I've seen those bags before, and they look like they work well for storing and moving. And I know they have some holes in the sides. But I would be worried the wood wouldn't dry very well in there. Maybe I just worry too much about my wood being dry. But they have less than half the air flow of totes, which have less than stacking in rows. Are you going to still cover them? I think that would help.
I'm wondering that as well, if there will be enough airflow. I do plan on covering the tops with a tarp...we'll see. I don't think this is gonna end up being my only method for storing but might be a good option.
Here is a link to where you can get those face cord bags. northernwoodsmen.com/firewood-production/ If you do order and could mention in the notes of the order you saw them on Back 40 Firewood that'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I think I already know a face cord would need to be overflowing out the top for it to actually hold one...I'm not too worried about the amount they hold just more how they'll work for seasoning & moving around. 👍😀🍻
That might not be a bad idea, but my concern is with the seasoning of wood. Will this bag let enough air circulate to dry the wood, will it keep rain out or drain excess water from storms?
It's always good to try things. I'm not sure you will get the life expectancy you want. It will depend on the UV protection they add to the plastic. My experience is usually 1-2 years and they are done.
Whenever ur run that diesel tractor you shouldn’t idle like that. Diesel are met to run high idle whenever operation. It don’t matter if ur only go 20 ft
Got to be the slowest most inefficient way of storing wood that I've seen....not to mention you didn't say what the cost of them were....they don't look that cheap
