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Firing Up a 396 Big Block in a 1970 Camaro RS/SS - MuscleCar S6, E12 

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@PowerNationTV
@PowerNationTV 5 лет назад
We'll continue to post these episodes here on RU-vid. If you can't wait for the rest of the build, visit our site to binge-watch: www.powernationtv.com/shows/musclecar
@jamessurface9100
@jamessurface9100 5 лет назад
I don't know how "Old School" you guy really are but you should know that you need to set your dwell before you finalize your timing. Feeler gauges only get you close.
@v8sserieschevy917
@v8sserieschevy917 5 лет назад
How did it not damage your holly spitting back like that? I've had it damage mine
@robj2704
@robj2704 5 лет назад
@@v8sserieschevy917 Yeah. As I recall, a lot of older muscle cars had a power valve that would blow out if the engine popped back thru the carb. The remedy was installing a check valve on the bottom of the carb - where I just can't remember, it's been 50 years for me.
@v8sserieschevy917
@v8sserieschevy917 5 лет назад
@@robj2704 we just ran a lot of quadrajet. The newer Holly's may not have that issue. I have very limited experience with them. But nothing sounded as good as a qjet opening up.
@robj2704
@robj2704 5 лет назад
@@v8sserieschevy917 Yeah. I remember back in the day (late 60's), could get a mechanical secondary mechanism for the qjet and bypass the vacuum feature. Actually, it didn't work all that good since it would dump the butterflies open without shooting additional fuel in and the result was a bog of the engine followed by a sudden jerk as the engine caught up. This put a real strain on the motor mounts - and would break them (ask me how I know...lol).
@joe6096
@joe6096 5 лет назад
Tuning an old carbureted engine with points and rotor to it's sweet spot is a dying art form. You guys keep it going! Love to see people of my generation and younger (I'm 42) who know how to do this properly. Mechanics at your local dealer who have only been trained on modern cars wouldn't know where to start.
@Wooley689
@Wooley689 4 года назад
I'm just sitting back and enjoying the show, no advice to give, just enjoying somebody else doing what I did to mine back in 1986.
@KENNEY1023
@KENNEY1023 4 года назад
One of my favorite Camaros and the color and interior is awesome.
@maryrafuse2297
@maryrafuse2297 5 лет назад
The 1970 Camaro is a real beauty. Makes you wish you could go back into time and bring a new one forward into our time.
@diane2193
@diane2193 5 лет назад
I had a 73 mint Camaro.Bronze brown metalflake exterior..Biege cream vinyl top. Cream interior buckets 350 stock v8 SS Cragars all way round. Loved it more than all the women in my life.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 9 месяцев назад
Had a 70 Z in that color...in the sun it popped...only green I ever liked. What a sharp looking car.
@TheBgred1
@TheBgred1 4 года назад
Tommy and Rick were the best combo on any of powernations shows
@secondsun7727
@secondsun7727 Год назад
I know I'm late to the party - what's 3 years between gear heads, but just have to say my brother had one of those 70 Camaros and it was his pride and joy. You guys did such a great job "IMO" I had to forward the show to him. Now his wife's pissed cause he wants another one. LOL!!!!
@slowrunner1660
@slowrunner1660 4 года назад
Love how the music is as close to actual songs as it can, enough to sound familiar but not pay for using it. Tight wads. Nice chops dude
@BoudreauGuitars
@BoudreauGuitars 5 лет назад
I’m a MOPAR guy to the bone but, this split bumper is friggin’ saweeet !
@adamc8409
@adamc8409 5 лет назад
I think the 70 camaro is the best year they made
@drycreek3962
@drycreek3962 5 лет назад
Adjustment of the points is fun isn't it...I bought some new points , messed with them from about an HR...then put a different set that was used in it..ran just fine... thanks brothers. For a great vid.....!.. much appreciated.
@diane2193
@diane2193 5 лет назад
You crank engine over little bit till the high spot on cam contacts.Set at .030 done .Maybe not 😆
@kevinchand100
@kevinchand100 5 лет назад
Wow.. You guys do good work but I can't believe you didn't use touch up paint after drilling holes for emblems. Good spot for rust to start
@donrutter6765
@donrutter6765 4 года назад
Yep I said the same thing. Or a Q-tip with silicone on it.
@jaredmayer3960
@jaredmayer3960 5 лет назад
That 2nd Gen is the best looking Camaro...that thing is tight. The factory chrome package makes it pop
@brianproffitt7263
@brianproffitt7263 5 лет назад
I think we all know that cobra jet don’t want none of a copo
@ronniefarnsworth6465
@ronniefarnsworth6465 4 года назад
One of my favorite builds on the show over the years !! A Beautiful 70' Camaro RS/SS Clone car, just please tell the people you sell it to later it is a Clone !! Lol : D
@c3dk
@c3dk 4 года назад
I'm so glad that in 2019 I bought a 1973 Z28/RS
@lengilley1788
@lengilley1788 3 года назад
No offense guys. I wish I could have been there so I could show these guys how it’s done. This old man knows a few tricks
@pdinardo9472
@pdinardo9472 5 лет назад
It's a truly great ride. It's awesome. Let me know when u r dropping it off at my house.
@jonremmers7723
@jonremmers7723 5 лет назад
I think you should get some kind of medal for showing everything did not go entitely as planned. I worked for several years in a business specilized in restoring and servicing classic cars (in Sweden). In a big project, there are ALWAYS problems, no matter what money was spent or what people were involved. There are an infinite number of variables already with a completely stock car. Throw in some sub standard replacement parts and infinity is quantified... Hollywood productions make it all look easy. You buy some repop headlights and slap them on. Reality is boltholes differs, some metal needs to be shaved off or connector is wired for H4. I am much more interested in the obstacles in a build than the smooth sailing bits.
@motorhed__4333
@motorhed__4333 5 лет назад
for god sakes someone teach that guy how to install u joints.... 5:01
@jonathanstodden6029
@jonathanstodden6029 5 лет назад
That was painful to watch
@BBCharger5spd
@BBCharger5spd 5 лет назад
@@jonathanstodden6029 I'm joe blow nobody but even I have a shop press to use. OR at least use a "C" clamp
@jonathanstodden6029
@jonathanstodden6029 5 лет назад
@@BBCharger5spd My dad used to do them in the bench vise.
@Money.Flyzzz
@Money.Flyzzz 5 лет назад
STREET RACER nice
@chevydyall7619
@chevydyall7619 5 лет назад
And shows they really build cars lol. Give 1/2 hour to give it a lock if paint!!!!
@BATREZ78
@BATREZ78 4 года назад
Hey guys a vacuum gage is a useful tool to diagnose these kind of problems , I use to used it a lot heck I still use it for modern cars
@scottrasmussen8258
@scottrasmussen8258 5 лет назад
Awesome car, awesome build!
@seekingtko3146
@seekingtko3146 5 лет назад
The distributor is one tooth off and/or crossed plug wires
@justinbelshe
@justinbelshe 5 лет назад
BEEN THERE!
@seekingtko3146
@seekingtko3146 5 лет назад
@@justinbelshe me too
@bigsean2473
@bigsean2473 5 лет назад
no the timing pointer was off
@seekingtko3146
@seekingtko3146 5 лет назад
@@bigsean2473 glad you found it
@bigsean2473
@bigsean2473 4 года назад
@Dave Micolichek not if they drop the distributor with the number 1 up on the compression stroke and didnt look at the pointer. i never do til i adjust the timing but not for the first drop and start
@mindeloman
@mindeloman 5 лет назад
Man.....that engine start was very under-whelming. I've been waiting a few weeks for this engine start. Did they ever get it dialed-in before installing hood and aircleaner? I've seen old elastomer harmonic balance dampners get off on the timing mark due to the rubber drying out. They didn't even tell us what the issue was.
@justinbelshe
@justinbelshe 5 лет назад
Same here, I want to know exactly what the problem was!
@CharlieBrown-pb9xn
@CharlieBrown-pb9xn 5 лет назад
Their idiots. I can get timing within a few degrees before first start.
@robj2704
@robj2704 5 лет назад
Yeah. They'll consider someone who can talk on camera ahead of someone who is skilled in this kind of work. That's why I'd rather watch a video of skilled people over someone being directed by a person behind the camera.
@OW38B
@OW38B 5 лет назад
@@CharlieBrown-pb9xn Dude, if you are going to call people idiots, at least use the correct words. * "Their* as in their car. *They're* as in they're idiots.
@mikespillman3075
@mikespillman3075 5 лет назад
@@OW38B or we could stop using contractions......would cut way down on the confusion....
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 года назад
1994 spoonglasses guy😍 I had similar.
@joeschlotthauer840
@joeschlotthauer840 5 лет назад
I've seen the harmonic balancer slip because of the rubber insulator was dry rotted...
@BBCharger5spd
@BBCharger5spd 5 лет назад
It's strange but I've only ever seen that happen on Chevrolet engines - probably just because they are more common. A fix for this which should have been done would be to verify TDC on engine mock up with the balancer on to verify the correct timing marks. You can also do this on the car by utilizing a piston stop in the #1 cylinder and verify the timing mark is where it should be.
@joeschlotthauer840
@joeschlotthauer840 5 лет назад
@@BBCharger5spd I'm a retired Ford Lincoln Mercury technician, and it happened with my 70 chevelle while street racing, and it came apart, and years later seen it on a Mercury Sable, while looking at it with a timing light. I reached down and grabbed it and could spin it....
@tomwaldo9556
@tomwaldo9556 5 лет назад
BBCharger5spd or take the radiator cap off and find a ford that fits it. (Joking)
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 года назад
yep, seen them come clean off and go bouncing across the drag strip and up the barrier or fence launching into the air..
@erichildreth7562
@erichildreth7562 5 лет назад
You guys are great and I really enjoy your show!! Limelight looks amazing!!!
@drsnooz8112
@drsnooz8112 4 года назад
Aftermarket companies like Holley, MSD, Edelbrock, etc. spend a lot of money on car shows like this, displaying their latest electronic ignition system or self-learning EFI, hoping to convince you to buy them. Yet this episode is BY FAR the best advertisement ever made for those new systems. Who in his right mind wants to spend all night scratching his head and singeing his eyebrows, when he could spend a couple hours pecking on a laptop instead?
@brunotulliani
@brunotulliani 5 лет назад
I love that car. She is a true beauty!
@ToxicMisfitsYt
@ToxicMisfitsYt 4 года назад
That cams wiped at this point
@efrainberrios8494
@efrainberrios8494 4 года назад
Awesome!!
@maxwelllevy5760
@maxwelllevy5760 4 года назад
big block is angy
@fogtown3027
@fogtown3027 5 лет назад
I love this show
@mikeseymour5398
@mikeseymour5398 5 лет назад
You should have stuck electronic distributor in that motor
@Ecosse57
@Ecosse57 5 лет назад
nothing wrong with points.
@derrickjackson6737
@derrickjackson6737 4 года назад
i agree
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 4 года назад
Did they break in that cam if not it’s gonna go flat fast unless it’s a roller
@kevins4426
@kevins4426 5 лет назад
wow for a moment it was running like a ford. I home tommy gets his eyebrows back
@TheDynamiteGuy
@TheDynamiteGuy 5 лет назад
If that timing chain is off by one tooth it will give you more trouble than you ask for! It will run, but not right, just like what's going on here!
@bigtires100
@bigtires100 5 лет назад
I agree. If you can't find the problem at the distributer that's were I'd look next.
@superkillr
@superkillr 5 лет назад
I went back and looked and they didn't show them degreeing the cam in, so that is a possibility. I don't know BBC year to year small detail differences, but did they ever change timing tab locations?
@fredc8346
@fredc8346 4 года назад
@@superkillr They didn't catch the timing tab being way off so who knows whether they got the cam set right either.
@ronniefarnsworth6465
@ronniefarnsworth6465 4 года назад
I hope they used touch-up primer in the holes after they drilled for the SS Emblems !!! Trust me over time weather and crap "Will" get under the nice paint there from the bare metal !! It's an easy fix to stop that. : )
@TheMotorhead51
@TheMotorhead51 4 года назад
I like the color Might paint my 74 Z the same color !
@582motorsports8
@582motorsports8 5 лет назад
Why is it that no one on youtube or tv can properly install and time a distributor!!!!!..... I've been a mechanic for 22 years and have never had flames come out the inlet
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
and that is how not to install a u joint ! = use the ice to squeeze in the end caps = NOT WITH A HAMMER !
@abo_gand268
@abo_gand268 4 года назад
Why did you choose this oil? 75w-90 Can I empty the oil in my car and add this completely, or do I have to add something else with it?
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan 5 лет назад
it helps set the rings LOL
@ToxicMisfitsYt
@ToxicMisfitsYt 4 года назад
billiondollardan helps the cam break in cranking so much without oil lol
@TURBOSHANE101
@TURBOSHANE101 5 лет назад
That reflection is scary. Lol
@idontlikecops1
@idontlikecops1 5 лет назад
Youre ugly as fuck as well
@TURBOSHANE101
@TURBOSHANE101 4 года назад
Donalddump so is your comment. It was a joke you no good evil person. Besides you hurt my feelings. Lol
@bigmarkdarula
@bigmarkdarula 5 лет назад
Tommy = mvp
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 5 лет назад
He's the man 👍😊
@alconk7129
@alconk7129 5 лет назад
That car is beautiful!!!! What’s your plans for it?
@scottjaecques7409
@scottjaecques7409 4 года назад
Hell that's a Holley and it backfired !! The power valves are burt out !!
@tommccarron324
@tommccarron324 3 года назад
I was squinting my eyes every time that thing backfired. I was waiting to hear that gas was just flowing into the Venturi's because the power valve blew
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 года назад
probably wise to go with a tall "truck" oil filter and put a heat shield on the exhaust there, it will hold about an extra quart of oil that way (in the filter!)
@cacsrx1
@cacsrx1 5 лет назад
cam should be flat with all that cranking and no fire......
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 года назад
hope it was a roller and not flat tappet, f so, they;ll find out sooner than later, when it wipes them away...
@vktr168
@vktr168 4 года назад
Dam Beautiful.
@Reroy55
@Reroy55 4 года назад
Why didn't you install an HEI distributor ??? There is such a thing as going over board on original.
@benjaminkent4397
@benjaminkent4397 4 года назад
When the block was at the machine shop the deck was resurfaced. Did that effect timing or were the measurements redone with new pushrods? I know it's not an OHC, but still makes me wonder...
@kellygotell1179
@kellygotell1179 3 года назад
Beautiful job, the wheels look nice but I thought the 70 SS 396 came with the rally rims.
@richardcrouse9074
@richardcrouse9074 5 лет назад
Valve adjustment could be off. My 454 valves were set to the factory specs but had to re adjust a couple of times to get it right. And remember carburetors were never “perfect”.
@svborek
@svborek 4 года назад
VR1 is the oil I use to break in motors
@TonaldDrump686
@TonaldDrump686 4 года назад
The only sleeve I’ve ever installed, was chilled with dry ice before install. I guess that was not necessary....🙀
@Johans60
@Johans60 4 года назад
Why not holes before painting?, very nice car though
@АлександрТимошенко-к9п
have you drilled a freshly-made wing and not protected the holes with anything? From this place, the wing will rot completely.
@BobbyOfEarth
@BobbyOfEarth 4 года назад
Nice car ..but I still have to grin when I watch these TV car shows trying to support the 396 legion, and this in spite of the fact that GM discontinued the Chevy 396 engine after most of the 1969 SS Chevelles with the 396 engine that started the 1969 Daytona 500 race, had either blown up or barely finished the race due to poor oiling issues. The first finishing Chevelle was a 1968 that finished the race 13 laps behind the winning Ford Torino Cobra of LeeRoy Yarbrough. After the 1969 Daytona 500 debacle, all of Chevrolets 1970 SS cars that came with 396 badging actually came with the newly modified 402 engine ...but GM never overcame the stigma of the 396 engine during that race. Just keeping it real..
@georgejensen339
@georgejensen339 4 года назад
I had a friend with a 66 chevelle 396 that would make a believer out of you.
@danhambrick6331
@danhambrick6331 5 лет назад
So what was the problem?
@rustywrenchprojects4171
@rustywrenchprojects4171 4 года назад
must be nice having an early second gen camo......I'm pretty sure all 70 to 72 RS's have been outlawed in the south and hauled up north to succumb to Rust...because their is none down here at all.
@tjautoservicellc
@tjautoservicellc 5 лет назад
Its biscuits and gravy!
@derrickjackson6737
@derrickjackson6737 4 года назад
I want that SS 396 Camaro 70 me and that car the same age 49 yrs old about to be 50
@clicks59
@clicks59 4 года назад
Maybe finding the true TDC?
@craigwelcometochaos8462
@craigwelcometochaos8462 5 лет назад
She's looking fine as can be
@TheHorselemonade
@TheHorselemonade 5 лет назад
Id like to see these guys try and work on a modern car, if they are struggling this much with a carb'd small block
@Proteusbound
@Proteusbound 4 года назад
I'm curious.. Was the SS rear alcove painted shiny, or eggshell black?
@davidkepley9634
@davidkepley9634 Год назад
Am late but small block cars were body color and big block models was semi flat black
@rod6163
@rod6163 5 лет назад
Don't forget to prime those badge holes.....just sayn
@stevegunderson2392
@stevegunderson2392 5 лет назад
I hate restoring to factory, could have had a 6 spd, rear wheel discs, and a rear suspension that could actually live behind a big block...long live restomod...
@Proteusbound
@Proteusbound 4 года назад
Btw, to hear actual professionals say after an all nighter.. "It makes NO damned sense" seem sort of satisfying.
@anthonybutterbaugh4252
@anthonybutterbaugh4252 5 лет назад
I’d never let these guys touch my engine other than to spray paint it.
@edwardmyers1746
@edwardmyers1746 5 лет назад
I mean these guys ain't like the horse power guys down the road. All these guys know it body and paint 😂
@samspade4356
@samspade4356 5 лет назад
Wouldn't let them touch my bicycle!
@anthonybutterbaugh4252
@anthonybutterbaugh4252 5 лет назад
Edward Myers I’ve watched em for years...and I know they can time a bbc. I dont know why they even showed me picking up the distributor with the cap on and moving it though
@anthonybutterbaugh4252
@anthonybutterbaugh4252 5 лет назад
*em
@markr5132
@markr5132 4 года назад
I bet they had the idle way too slow + idle screws off , thats why it would run unless the timing was way to high. Notice they didn't say what was wrong. The Carb should have been Flow tested, I bet that would have done the trick.
@bandagefreak
@bandagefreak 5 лет назад
What a great series this has been! Is Tommy related to Buford T Justice?! ;@D Keep up the good work!!
@williamb82
@williamb82 4 года назад
Why didn't you drill the holes for the emblems BEFORE you painted it?
@fredc8346
@fredc8346 4 года назад
Sure something can be defective, but no matter what I refuse to keep trying when a motor doesn't fire up near perfectly. I start rechecking everything that can be causing it rather than tear things up. Especially with a new motor I do not want to have it running at 200 rpm. Break in rpm is 1500 or better not 200.
@zippythechicken
@zippythechicken 5 лет назад
welp ... looks real nice
@joebob5799
@joebob5799 4 года назад
You won't get a dry start if you prime the engine oil by driving the pump with the drill
@eliasnuno4039
@eliasnuno4039 5 лет назад
How much time took you guys finish this project?
@mov4406
@mov4406 4 года назад
He should have said I bet it ain't got no gas it like other episode with the other camero. Haha
@pauljanssen2624
@pauljanssen2624 5 лет назад
Guys are all about selling parts brand names half the time they really don't know what you're doing read the filter box it tells you to turn the filter almost three-quarters of the turn and they don't even put the biggest filter on the engine that you can use by the way big blocks love to have the two quart filter on them big blocks circulate a lot of oil and I always used to line the engine up to top dead center and then put the harmonic balancer on to find out how far off the mark would be when I build engines with stock or aftermarket harmonic balancers once you get the ignition timing set you should only be off by 1 to2 degrees just learn how you set the timing on VW and you can set the timing on anything
@jasoncardoza6375
@jasoncardoza6375 2 года назад
I never understood the concept of “ saving time” by laying out the parts in order to how the install on the car. Didn’t you take the time to organize them and lay them out on a blanket on the floor? Time is time and it’s spent no matter how you look at
@joeschlotthauer840
@joeschlotthauer840 5 лет назад
When did this originally air...
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 5 лет назад
Like 10 years ago at least
@joeschlotthauer840
@joeschlotthauer840 5 лет назад
@@bilbobaggins4710 Oh wow. I went to the link, and they want you to subscribe and pay for current episodes...
@martyhandley4456
@martyhandley4456 5 лет назад
So is this Boshers, related to Mike Finnegans side kick David?
@sfcmathews32
@sfcmathews32 4 года назад
How many little green apples did you s4!t drilling that freshly painted fender?
@Rich77UK
@Rich77UK 4 года назад
I simply love that motor manufacturers lied about performance just like they do today... Mustang 428 rated to 350bhp but actually 410bhp. Nowadays it's Mercedes C63 rated to x but really x-y
@tommyhallum2747
@tommyhallum2747 4 года назад
He says that this is just a 350 car. But I believe this is the first year for the LT-1 350. Which is the 375 hp 350 which is a bad mf. I would rather have the 350 than the 396 this year all day long.but they would never tell you that back then because they want you to pay for the more expensive option
@lencac7952
@lencac7952 4 года назад
You boys had a crossed plug wire ................... come on admit it!
@robbiefrentz9427
@robbiefrentz9427 4 года назад
lencac yep sounded like the ole 5-7 mixup
@randyjones7818
@randyjones7818 5 лет назад
On a 396..carb is everything...the compression is too much..and too much cam..go 350hp stuff on the 396 for best results..
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 5 лет назад
True
@TalkingModels
@TalkingModels 5 лет назад
I guessing they were sold faulty parts otherwise they would have had it up and running in an hour.
@SvenTviking
@SvenTviking 4 года назад
8.14 Lotus Cortina.
@elvismark6816
@elvismark6816 4 года назад
it's the link
@CHEVYCAMARO4GEN
@CHEVYCAMARO4GEN 5 лет назад
Anyone know what they do with every vehicle they fix
@tomwaldo9556
@tomwaldo9556 5 лет назад
I always liked Ford. But I would have any 1970 Chevy.
@sturgis6777
@sturgis6777 4 года назад
You should name that car the Exorcist in honor of that pea green soup vomit color!
@YTGhostCensorshipCanSuckMe
@YTGhostCensorshipCanSuckMe 4 года назад
Durka durka duuuurrr. Dey took our joooobs.
@wymple09
@wymple09 4 года назад
They still haven't figured out that an L78 had 4 bolt mains, not 2. Not exactly competent putting the dizzy in and initial firing. It ain't rocket science.
@starbattles1
@starbattles1 4 года назад
Carb needs more tuning. Probably bigger accel pump nozzle.
@fredc8346
@fredc8346 4 года назад
You like bigger flames don't you
@retiredafce3373
@retiredafce3373 5 лет назад
Why didn't y'all dyno it to work out the kinks first?
@chrisgrant4862
@chrisgrant4862 4 года назад
8:15 I spot a mk1 Cortina
@donrutter6765
@donrutter6765 4 года назад
Damn, Ive had distributors 180° out that didnt flame like that. I can initially time a motor/carb by eye that runs better than that. 🤣 My 70 Camaro (bought for 175 bucks in 1987) got put on a 73' 4wd Blazer frame and I raced it in the mud track. After selling the rest of the Blazer parts, the build was free, except for the $7K motor.
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