First DIY Hunter Road Force Tire Mounting & Balancing on Tesla Model 3 

As someone who has been using this exact equipment for the past 5+ years this video was painful to watch. Not in the typical Obsessed Garage fashion. I'd highly recommend getting someone there that knows what they're doing to help you along, your local hunter rep that you purchased the equipment through should be more than happy to come by and get you going more efficiently(Especially for the $$$$ these machines cost!). A couple notes: 1. You used way too much lube, lubing the wheel also is unnecessary. 2. The press arms need to come down that far to keep the top bead in the drop center when mounting otherwise you may damage the bead. 3. You didn't show setting the wheel dimensions on the balancer so I hope you're doing that. I'm assuming that just happened off camera. 4. Roadforce balancing is great and I do it on every wheel, but you will learn that if the road force is high and the machine only tells you to rotate the tire an 1/8 of a turn or less you're typically better off flipping it 180 and checking it again. Side Note: 3M Wheel Weight Surface Prep is great!

This video is one of the most fascinating things on your channel. So glad you bought this setup so we can see how this stuff really works.

Awesome work. You're doing better than I could. The "experts" forget they were green at some point. Also if all you do is just change tires for a living, I have some bad news for you.

There could be many reasons for the high road force numbers, but the “chasing” you are experiencing is classic assembly not mounting correctly to the balancer. 1) you must perform a bead massage on the Revolution. That will ensure the bead is seating correctly on the rim. lube tire and rim as you did and use the bead massage function before heading to the balancer. You should apply some lube to the outer sidewall so the pressure wheels do not damage the sidewalls 2) Balancer: Check that your collet is not too small and bottoming out inside the hub. Some hub bores have an inner lip. You may need a larger collet or use the red spacer to ensure you are getting good clamping force. 3) Perform a centering check on the balancer to verify you have mounted the assembly correctly. It’s a good idea to turn the rim a bit while clamping. Double tap the pedal to activate the auto-wind function. 4) Remember, the clamp on the balancer must be TIGHT. 5) Turn your Smart Weight savings to zero in setup or use dynamic balance mode. Smart Weight is meant to save high-volume tire shops money on wheel weight costs and will focus on static balance over couple “shimmy” balance meaning you do not get a perfectly balanced assembly. You will likely notice some vibration on a Tesla using default Smart Weight settings. You can see the results on screen on the tire images (bottom-right corner on your display) - left is static and right is couple. The dashed line is the “acceptable vibration” tolerance which I can see is set very high. 6) The 3M adhesive weight system is awesome. Tesla uses it and it allows them to balance to 1 gram of tolerance. You can do this on your machine in dynamic balance mode with rounding turned off. 7) Don’t final tighten your lug bolts/nuts with the car’s weight on the wheel assembly. Use the parking brake or a steel wheel chock to hold the wheel in place while final torquing. Truly mastering wheel balance harmonics takes a lot of learning and practice, but you’ll get there! Your tools are the finest in the industry.

When mounting the tire, there should be a dot or indentation and that is where you place your valve stem. The tire is engineered to compensated for the weight of the sensor in the tire itself.

DIY! All you need is a $70,000 mount & balance setup, and a $10,000 air compressor. Then you too can do it yourself!

Excellent video ❤

Tuned in to watch Matty get frustrated with the tire machine. This should be good.

First video I've ever seen on mounting and balancing tires. Good stuff, thanks for sharing.

Those wheel weights are made by 3M. You cut the weight to a specified length depending on how much weight you need, using a proprietary measuring+cutting tool made by 3M.

As far as your problems with road force, you might have the heaviest part of the tire close to the valve stem. While I dont think Michelin marks the heaviest spot some manufactures do still use a red dot on the side of the tire to denote the heaviest spot and a white or yellow spot to denote the lightest spot. I think if the machine is telling you that you need a lot of weight to balance you need rotate the tire 180.

I used one of these for a few years when I worked at the Toyota dealer. They got them pretty much when they came out back in 2015ish. You’ll get the hang of it. It will be muscle memory soon. Awesome video as always Matt!

Great to see a person doing this off their own back, let's face it we would all want to do our own if we could. Damned either way comment wise on a video like this.

Talk about a dream, I would love to have that setup. Never have to worry about some idiot at the tire shop scratching rims and sllllliding it off the tire balancers and grinding a flat spot where the center cap goes. Idiots

Pay attention to paint marks on tire sidewall. Tells you where the lightest part of the tire is. Match that to the valve stem on the wheel when you first mount. Will balance batter.

Its all so simple when you know how I guess. Interesting learning curve to watch.

Just some advice here. I have been mounting tires for a long a while now. If you want to do a really good job of it you should definitely clean the rims first then take all the old wheel weights off and use some 3m adhesive remover and a plastic scraper to remove any old wheel weight adhesive that way the barrel of the rim will look nice and you will have a nice surface to mount your new wheel weights to.

Send this video into Americas Tire and I guarantee they would probably call you back for a second interview. 🤣 Machine definitely looks cool.

Find someone with a tire truing machine to get the road force into spec. You can balance them all day long, but if the tire is out of round, you will still have a vibration. You would think the money you spend for tires these days, they would be perfectly round, but I feel they are worse than ever. Tire truing does shave a small amount off of the tread depth, but it is well worth it in my opinion.

As someone who mounted and balanced tires for years when I was younger. This is the one job I always rather pay someone to do!

Fascinating.... Glad I never complained about how long mounting a set of tires took. :-)

I see a lot of “ he should just let a professional...” comments. The guys at the tire shop didn’t have a clue either. As someone who dreams of having my own tire machine and balancer, I’m not going to knock him. I work with my hands every day but have never used a newer tire machine. I’d like to think I could do better my first time, but who knows. Anyway, get off his back people.

When you have a 1/4 ounce after applying weights it generally means the weights need adjusted on the wheel depending on where it is telling you to add weight. If it’s 180 degrees out that means you need to remove weight from the original spot. 90 degrees out the weight just needs to be shifted etc. basically when you put the weights on you weren’t centered.

Love the video Matt. It takes a real man with a big set of nuts to do what you do!

I've been drifting for 3+ years now and I've still never changed a tire. They have a machine at the track but, I've been to scared to use it in front of all the guys who have tons of experience. I know I would look just like this and I'll wait until I have my own. Although, mine will be very used from marketplace. I can relate to the comment about entry level guys doing it and thinking it cant be too hard. I don't think it was meant to be condescending at all. I get what he means and it's just a way to say he wont be intimidated by it.

As much as I respect Matt in many ways. And I am curtainly not going to tell him. He shouldn't have spend a lot of money on this fancy pro equipment, just to mount some tires occasionally. But I can't imagine, there is a private market for having a I would assume not under $10-20k tire mount and balancing equipment just to have it in your garage. When it not only easier, but save you tens of thousands of dollars. Just to go to your local tire fitter. I think Matt has manage out done this time any other rich and obsessive garage owner wildest dreams, part from his own!😊

I’ve been waiting for this day!

Keep on chronocalling. Good to watch the learning process.

Is this machine really worth it versus a regular coats or ranger unit?

In my city we have a guy who soley mounts tires and people ask why he charges $75-$100 per wheel to mount and balance. When you watch him do what is basically an art form of balancing tires taking him at minimum 1-2 hours to mount and balance 4 tires you understand. When other tireshops throw weights where it says and never really use a road force balancer to it's actual potential and wonder why your tire shakes at 60mph. He's told me numerous times that certain tires won't balance and if the customer has the time they send em back. Pirelli is his #1 offender to tires that fail road force.

If you push on the balance pedal twice it should automatically thread the tool on for you. If you push it twice more it should reverse direction so it will remove it for you.

You sir motivates me......hope one day i can have a tire machine in my garage haha

Man I love that you film all this crap if not for anything at least people looking to get this piece of equipment can see how difficult it is to learn everything the first few days. As a side note I'm pretty sure you can get a rep to come out and help you with anything.

This unit makes it look harder than it really is

Now you need a ADAS alignment system

I just go to the guy down the road who has these machines there great it’s 50 bucks a wheel to mount and road force balance. But if you have the funds for 50k in machines do it. Awesome stuff

The video we have been waiting on

Wow I wish everyone used those wheel weights...

Accu tire used to make a nice valve stem remover tool.

This tire mount system doesn't have a denib feature..... Matt, send it back, that's not OG standards

From my experience, we don't use Roadforce unless there's a vibration complaint. You can tell if your tire is deformed with the Roadforce option and use the values the balancer gives as proof for warranty. Some dealerships don't even have Roadforce on their balancers. Also, maybe you did it before but I didn't see you set the values for the weights placement on the wheel. (Sidenote: Why do you have 2 values on the outer side?)

I do way too many tractor trailer tires. I find myself comfortable using a Matco tools rebranded Lisle 15190 Valve Core Tool. Lube tires before dismount and mounting. you can use some soapy water to help with dismount.. Milton will probably be one of your best bets for tire air chucks.

That revolution mounter is sick!

Dreams fulfilled, this is going to be awesome when you get the hang of it! Is it the camera angle, or is that outlet not level?

Make sure the wheel is mounted flush on the 9700, also if you can't get it below 12 or 13 you may have a bad tire

Doesn’t the company that sells this equipment send someone to walk you through all the procedures?

3m wheel weights and wheel weight station they work great

Thats cool to have good job Matt

Check out the snap on valve core tool. It has a very nice screwdriver handle. They also make a nice tool to pull the rubber vavles into the rim.

If there's more than 16 lbs. of road force, rotate the tire 180 degrees on the rim and try again. You should always be able to get under 16 lbs. by moving the tire on the rim to where the balancer says only once...no need to do it several times. Also your machine should be able to check for lateral and radial runout of the rim and if it's good then the tire is the issue. Michelins are good, but none are perfect and I've seen some shitty ones.

Nice video Matt. Like everything you will get better with experience.

I think some of the people in these comments are forgetting this was literally the 4th tire he’s ever done. And that he just went for it and tried to figure it out himself. Give him a break 😂

I had some tires show mounted before, seems now that probably resulted in an excessive amount of weights being used. Also, you should find the kid who works at a tire shop to show you the ropes. lol

So I can’t remember the dot on new tires if that’s the high part of the tire or the low part of the tire, some guys like to find the lowest part of the tire and match it near the valve stem !

I own a tire shop and have the Hunter TC39, The road force elite, and the Hunter Hawkeye elite. I was considering buying the revolution but I couldnt justify the price. The TC39 will do everything it does. I feel like automated stuff goes wrong too often

Isn't it suppose to have you mark the high spot of the tire and low spot of the rim and then when you turn the tire you match the two up? (or vice versa) or are these newer machines different and not like that? I seem to remember that from years ago. I only saw Matt mark 1 spot on the rim which could be why he keeps having to re do it.

Do you have the Hunter part number for the yellow collet you use for the Tesla wheel?

My shop uses Hazet valve tool SKU: HZ666-1

You forgot to mount the heaviest part of the tire near the valve stem. There are marks in the sidewall to denote this. Also asking a rep to do a walk through on one tire wouldn’t be a bad idea either. You’ll get there I’m sure 👍🏼

You should be able to read the wheel run out too? I have one wheel on my jeep that failed RF and is my spare.

It would be worth paying someone from a tire shop for their time to tutor you on how to use this equipment. No doubt they will have short cuts that will make it easier.

I thought that the tyres had dots on them so you put this on the same or opposite side to where the tyre valve is to make it much easier to balance so it matches the extra weight of the valve?

those weights are 3m cut to fit

Is the corghi artiglio master not as good as that hunter? I don’t know what’s what, I just have seen many demos of that machine and it for sure all automatic if you want it to be... with the exception of pulling off and putting on the new rubber in mounting and removal.

I have one of these machines at my work and it great when it works but breaks all the time and never works

You will break the tpms sensors if you don’t mount the tires properly. But mainly, you need someone with experience to show you how to comfortably use the machine.

Great video, but it looks you really need to get some training from manufacturer rep, but knowing you, I am sure you won’t quit until you become the best at this. The road force number is usually good to attain but sometimes it is hard to achieve if you have less ideal tires or wheels. Even new Michelins can come new with large unbalance, and let’s not forget this is a Tesla, so it is highly likely the wheels are less than ideal. Also a final note if the machine is showing a high roadforce number, and it is only asking you to rotate the tire by less than a quarter of a turn, it would usually mean that you probably have a bad reading or possibly large built in unbalance in the tire or the wheel,. In that case I would rotate the tire by 180 degrees and get another reading to confirm you didn’t get a bad reading. Once you get this down, my next flat or tire replacement , I am driving to you from Washington state to get my tire taken care of by the best. Mark

Probably could just measure those wheel weights. They will have a value of average grams/inch etc… that’s just a guess I have no idea

Tesla Model 3's use gram weights instead of ounce weights. I Don't know anything further about brand names though.

How about getting an experienced tire buster to teach you the tricks?

I was always told you should mount the tyre so that the red dot and the valve line up? is this true

You mounted a tire without jacking up a wheel or driving to a tire shop.. Thats a success in my book. I really think that the key is finding the light spot in the tire and lining it up with the stem in the wheel, then you won't spend so much time adjusting the tire for road-force. It seems the machine can only recommend small moves in the tire, so being closer to perfect from the beginning will mean less iterations with the rotation.

Tifco industries has those flexible wheel weights.

Sometimes I feel like the balancing technology is just not quite there yet. I've taken wheels to the same shop 2-3 different times because they don't feel like they balance out quite right and everytime they come back with " It said it was __ oz off". Which doesn't make sense because they just balanced it with the same machine the last 2 times.

Every tire tech in the country will soon be in the comments.

3rd thumbs up hell I'd like this at home for my own (non Tesla) vehicle (Chevy Volt). Would love to balance my tires at will whenever I wanted to!

Is that adaptor not for balancing lug centric vs hub centric?

I guarantee there’s not a tire installer anywhere that’s gonna take that much time and effort to balance a tire. They’re gonna slap weights on it and move on.

This is all part of Matty's plan to turn the E36 into a drift car and burn some rubber

Real shit show mama. LOL

Anyone know the best brand/company for good touch up paint?

Do hope you have a follow up to this fairly quick. You have a lot of patience my friend as many times as you did the balancing. I would’ve kicked and cursed that machine to no end. Can’t figure out why so many weights just as you thought. Again, can’t wait to see the follow up.

I’ll ask my buddy Mark that works for them on the line, he might know about the wheel weights..

Wow, loved the video but I’ll stick to the $150 my BMW dealer charges me to do the same now that I know it’s such a pain in the ass!

3m wheel weight system. Cut to weight system. not cheap

Also my dream, I hate taking my stuff to discount tire.

Lube even when demount, roller longevity. When mounting tire push the side right in front of you down So that the tire goes sort of under head as u turn in

Excellent equipment , lol i would rather just drop off my wheels and give the experience d tech a hundo …

Time to start palming yourself hundos!

Interesting how it only costs 20$to have a tire mounted and balanced after watching this

The tires are fine, those wheels are garbage. A fiend of mine with a M3P had the same issue. You may not even feel 20lbs of road force.

Another few of sets of wheels and you too could be worth $8-$10/hr ! lol Sorry I couldn't help that.

SO what's the ROI for this?

You and the machine would be fired from the tire shop, takes way too long. What’s with all the lube, elephant trying to mount an Ant there🤷‍♂️

Cool equipment! 40k and you nick your wheels. 😂 punt it and pay an $8 dollar an hour tech to mount them properly.

You know you’ve made it when you have your own tyre machine 😭

My coworkers, "What is all that beeping?" I explain, it's Obsessed Garage and he bought $40,000 worth of tire mounting and balancing equipment and it makes beeps when he uses it. My coworkers, "Mute that." But, now I can't hear him. My coworkers, "Yeah, that's the best option there." Now I'm watching with no sound damn it.

Good old Amazon lol only Tesla 👊

Hey Matt, check out these modified wheel spacers off this PT Cruiser, think they will fit the Tesla! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jp7jMqxEVTo.html

Seems way over kill and very time consuming, can’t see how this would be a fast way of fitting in a tyre shop. I’d take the normal machine and balancer over this any day