FIRST LSX TANDEM AXLE C1O SLAYER BURNOUT *GONE WRONG* 

Comment your top 3 places we should take c10 slayer! Could be car shows, races, ect!..

WOW, you boys built something special. watching your videos has been a pleasure. Hopefully in the near future I can see it in person and experience what you guys enjoy every day. This is a bad ass truck. sitting inside and listening and being driven inside would be a dream come true and never wake up. I enjoy this build and thanks for building such a beast.

You guys should 100% take this to one of the big The Freedom Factory events.

Who cares about the problems. The time you 2 spend together is what’s important. Love the videos!

Run a brace to the rear axle on both sides of the diff and rotate the drive shaft 90 degrees like your buddy mentioned. That might help you guys out

Check the axle weights. If the load is equal and the spring/shock rates are the same, the hop will be better. Only one axle is hopping best I can see. Awesome build.

About time keep video coming I can see this channel hitting 500 thousand subs real fast dad son build together ya God Bless 🙏

What about weight distribution, it looks like the front axle/tires were smoking more than the rear. Might need more pressure on the back axle. Absolutely killer truck!!

Semi's tend wheel hop, which I think is why the true burnout ones are single axle. Plus they only need to replace half the tires. There are ones that don't. They will wheel hop doing truck pulls on dirt too. Maybe talk to some guys that do truck pulling. You will get it figured out. Then you need to take out stock in Michelin if that is the only brand you will be running. The truck is so awesome!

If stiffer springs don't cut it....maybe go full Roadkill and put some more weight in the back? Weld a bar across, put an upright pole on it, and stack 45 plates on it until the hop stops. Won't look pretty, but it should help.

I have not read all of the suggestions as of yet but you might look into balancing the down force one axle has even a slight amount more down force on the suspension it’s going to lighten the load on the opposing axle you might consider looking into weight balancing the backend on an individual tire basis good luck love the video of the truck even more thanks for sharing

To get the hop out I would almost try and remount the coils mount and put them with fromt coils forward at 60° angle forward and rear reversed. I think that might set ur suspension preload to allow each axle hit center and stop the axles from loading up

Watching this thing in a drift comp would be insane to see

6:30 that thang is just a straight monster

I can't offer a fix, but might I suggest reaching to Big rig racing community. They can roast 8 big drive tires till the cows come home. Wish you best of luck

play with tire pressure differences, you can slow down or speed up those axles individually

U should get more people reactions i love this car

Who couldn't see wheel hop being an issue? Anyone who's ever driven a pick up with no bed, or a hot rod with improper weight bias knows no weight on drive tires creates wheel hop, every time. Suggestions? add weight and more shock/dampners.

no matter how well you machine the parts, there will be a tiny difference between the axles "spin rate", how much grip it is getting, and even air pressure. if the axles were welded together there would possibly still be some hop. . I love tandem axle trucks, esp mini trucks & its gotta have that bass ;)

Do you think adding a brace diagonally across the rear axles would help stabilize it?

Absolutely obsessed with this monstrosity of a truck!

I would suggest removing the rabbits from the rear end.

Yas explain to us for 10 minutes how greatest thing is and what a great smokeshow it does

As mentioned, maybe more spring rate but possibly only in the rear/rear🤷‍♂️😂 suspension and or possibly more tire pressure on the same axle and less in the other.

I wonder how well it would do on a drag strip could it beat a dodge demon?

I came I saw but was expecting more..

The wheel hop is caused from the rubber bushings in your traction bars, you should have the same kind as in your Panhard bars for no flex, it was in a hotrod mag.Or change the rubber for brass bushings, either will take the flex out.

Look at a semi rear ends they have a trunion bar. From the frame to the top of the rearend housing. That may help some.

I absolutely love this build/ peace of art and you got to do it with your dad is even better. Congratulations guys you two come up with really amazing projects that's why I watch this stuff so I can learn what I can from ya'll thank you!

I know you guys will figure it out! Such a crazy cool creative build

Thank you so much for showing us the progress with this beast. I'd love to see a quarter mile in this one day.

start looking at your bar angles, might be a little tricky due to the dual axle rear setup to get them to have similar characteristics. I think that the bar angles are going to be unique to each axle. Instant center vs 100% anti-squat line. Anti-squat over the 100% line should force the wheels down into the ground more.

Compression and rebound setting on the shocks should work out the wheel hop some. And wheel speed has to be higher then where the tire wants to grip. Those sticky tires get heated up and they are just going to want to plant the power. Get some harder compound tires for just doing a smoke show.

This is the baddest truck on RU-vid, you should pull up at the hoonigan tireslayer yard and show them what's up or even this vs that

Did not disappoint, even if it wasn't perfected. Had a huge grin the whole time, and I can't wait for the true tire melting to commence. Keep it up you two.

take the back of the breaks off. keep the front breaks on for the killa burnouts. tips from Australia

When you get this monster dialed in, watch out!! That hoard of tires won’t last no time 😂😂 Awesome build dude 👏👏

I really enjoy watching you guys doing your thing ,especially as a father and son. Im sure y’all will figure the trucks suspension out, and I can’t wait to see the next smoke show!!! Keep the projects and fun coming!!

Add a weight bar on the very rear of the frame... could help a ton

Your Springs may be too soft. You're getting axle wrap or twist. It's no different than a single axle car that has wheelhop. Stop the twist and the hop will go away. It should be treated the same as any single axle car that has wheelhop.

Thats awesome you guys that truck is freakin insane very nice happy bashing y'all.

clock the axle ends 90 degrees of each other and you will get rid of the vibration on the drive shaft. The wheel hop is probably result of poor weight distribution between back tires

I would like to see how fast it will go through the quarter mile.

Spring rate isn't what keeps the tires on the ground. You need to be able to control and adjust the compression and rebound of the shocks. Is this suspension not able to do that? Of course, bar angles are going to play a big part as well.

Love you guys are smart and still humble enough to ask your viewers for advice. I mean, allmost 100K gearheads have a collective knowledge, smart putting that to use!

Man I love the Father/Son Dynamic. Your father is around my age. I never had kids sadly. If i did I wish I could have had the relationship you guys have. Your father seems like one of them rare men that is wildly successful yet still down to earth good people. I hope someday I can meet you 2 and shake your hands. I'm not really a hotrodder. I prefer 2 things. Show cars and offroad capable. My dream is to build me a Bug-out type survival truck. Wish I had a son to share it all with. Shoot i would settle for a friend.

Nice build but the steering wheel is on the wrong side

This type of content bro! Love the truck

Are the tires all trying to go the same exact amount of rotations? If so I would imagine that the traction difference is causing them to fight each other and hop. Like a welded rearend going around corners. Awesome content by the way! Loving the channel

I love the relationship you and your dad have really makes me miss my dad, enjoy it as long as you can!!!

If you weren't smiling the whole video then I don't know whats wrong with you. Seeing how excited you guys are is cool as hell to see. You guys built something wicked here.

Sweet! The fact that it didnt cost you 2 diffs or a driveshaft after that is a success in my book! 🤙

ABSOLUTELY love ur guys stuff!! I watched u a long time ago and knew u guys had something special!! If I had the means to do it like u our creations would be very similar. Love it!!

I think the truck is slow asf 😆

For the rear I would say just beef up everything and have much beefier links and mounts, because even if it looks sturdy that can change when 900+ ponies go through 4 massive ass tires. Also maybe a less grippy tire if you could even find one so it won't hook so abruptly after/while it slides. One more thought is to go with a panhard bar or even triangulated 4 link setup, because it seems like the watt's link setup might be what's doing it. This thing drifting with the Nascar taco would be sick

BAD ASS. Yes just be cool with it and learn as you go. I'm enjoying this. This is like my drag RC non prep cars I build, here is always something to do on it.

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This truck is so bad ass nice work boys!!! Are the rear shocks hydraulic or air adjustable?

MOORESVILLE UP! MAN ,I MISS Y'ALL MISS THERE! Honestly, enjoy each other,...and very cool reaching out!!

Great build. But the best thing is working with your dad , I’m also a car freak , but my dad never wanted to be around , now I’m in my “late40’s”🥴 and my daughter and I have built a mustang and a 53 Plymouth .,, best times …! God bless you guys ., and GIVE ME MORE VIDEOS …! 🤙🏼😂🤙🏼

As far as wheel hop...go back to Justin at Modern. They'll figure it out. He got us a Pro Stock World championship... to a marginal team. He KNOWS suspension.. that's why he's such a good crew chief. Tell him Mikey sent you

So its a 4x6 not 6x6 right.... i built couple 6x6 on 90s ford frame about 15 years ago.

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Totally "Don't Get It", WTF is the big deal about spinning the tires? Mom's Tercel can do that - to some extent. Hell, make it GO SOMEWHERE" !!

I would 100% look at spring rates, coil depth, and for sure you have to optimize the pinion angles they just look a little wallerd to me. Also what diffs are you running? Because 100% i would run spools. I wouldn't want limited slip fighting itself back there, lotta shit going on and a lot of forces going different directions. So the objective is to #1 get everything to go in the same direction. Easiest way to to that is to get all the wheels spinning at the same speed then re-evaluate. It might be a dampening thing too. Might be a weight thing, might be as simple as a tire thing. Shitty part is you cant toe in. That would really help the binding situation you have going on. Similar to the thinking of the most maneuverable aircraft will be aerodynamically unstable. I wanna say Nissan did a F1 or indy car prototype with tandem rear wheels. Might wanna look at some of their work. Apparently the car works really well so, never know. Obviously theyre not running solid axles but as far as the way they have the thing sprung, pinion angles, lash on the diffs(if you decide against a spool)etc. You might find something useful in their research. Keep it up guys. I wanna see an electric trophy truck next ok?? 1800 horsepower, 4x4, fully independent. Let me know if you need a hand.

Such a badass build!!! Batman’s truck 🖤🖤🖤🖤😈😈😈😈🔥🔥🔥🔥!!!!!!

Gears..posi or limited slip..wheel hop appeared on the inside trac. If its a posi make sure that both gear sets are 100% equal ..if the box said 4.10 then make sure both sets are 4.10 ..not 4.13 And 4.10 or 4.10 and 4.08. It doesnt sound like much. But even .03 different can create bad harmonics at high speed ..proof he let off the pedal to make it stop hopping..thats why semis dont have full lockers only a limited slip

hey guys...you know what? This thing totally needs a 6 wheel steering upgrade fitting! ☺️👍👍 Also, you need to fit some more framework to stop the 4 wheels from yawing about...looks like there's a potential for the tyres 'clapping' against each other once a particular resonance frequency is met I notice, for example, you have a 'Z' bar dealing with the pivoting up and down of the individual axel's vertical motion such that it maintains as perfect a perpendicular path to the vehicles central plane as possible...but, what about something to tame the motion parallel to the vehicles central plane (i.e. foward to rear motion) between the middle and rear axels? I'm clearly no expert here, however, I should have thought that the two axels need to 'talk' to one another such that they flex in unison...but, also, so that any build up of frequency in the horizontal to the central axis plane can be damped I wouldn't for a second think that ordinarily, such a vehicle would need to consider this, however, the amount of torque you're likely putting through this thing is likely causing an amount of flex on the frame/axels that means that it will become a factor. You're never going to be able to stop this flex, and, so, it's something you're likely going to have to come up with a clever solution for. Thinking of something like a 'Z' bar connection point being placed atop the outside extents of all 4 axels, such that you have a link into some sort of framework connecting both sides of all 4 axels together while also going to a single centralised spring+damper orientated in the horizontal plane. How you'd be able to fit such a system around the vertical suspension components though would likely be an interesting challenge

Fire up your lathe & swap out your Polly bushings for aluminum, its alot like axle wrap with leaf springs... with the sticky tires & hp... something has to give. You can also try adding some weight with a temp water tank to adjust weight & possibly spring rates. Also try increasing tire pressure. It's a seriously wicked toy! Very impressive! Dusty D Idaho

So good! By far my favourite build I’ve seen in a long time you guys killed it! Was so happy to see that four wheel burnout 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Hey guys awesome truck. First off I have no experience, but I did have a thought. My thought is that what little weight you do have needs to be equally spread between both rear axles. 🤔 End result is they would be grabbing the ground with an equal force. Just a theory, like I said I have no experience. Awesome build I will follow along

This is beast is filthy! I love it. I've not much of a blown engine fan just because they've been over-done. I reckon a sky-high revving pro-stock big block would take this thing to a whole new level of nastiness. But that's just personal taste.

I would check with David sparks.. diesel brother they build truck with multiple axels.. they may be a great help. From Utah they are.. lets go!

My suggestion from the last time I built a dual axle burn out truck is to..... Oh yeah.... I haven't done that!!! But it's sick!!

I have an old C30 streach frame I've been wanting to build a tandem 5th wheel hauler. I've been keeping my eyes open for a pass through axle. This thing is too cooool

Just put some water down lol or the tires just too wide and sticky, many different solutions but either way this truck SLAYYYYYYYS 💯✊🏼

Take it to Australia Summernats Burnout masters, Summernats 35 Jan-05 to Jan 08 2023. Awesome truck!

Love it soo much!, Here in the land of downunder we have the Australian Army "Armygeddon" doin massive smoke shows! Give them a call!!

What are the differentials custom as hell like semi-truck rearends!!! Be cool if top fuel dragsters could possibly use same set up, try possibly doing a double axle single four link set up 👍✌️look into tandem axle semi truck spring setups or center pivot leaf springs for tandems

I suggest replacing exhaust bearings to sealed ones to minimize vibration. It’s really bad on tires😂😂😂. You guys are having too much fun with that tandem and that roar of that motor tho.

Pinion angle, 4 link bar angle and shock dampening are all what controls how hard the tire is pushed into the ground. It’s like a prybar the torque creates through the driveshaft. Then suspension setup is what controls how hard the tire is planted. Wheel hop would be loss and gain of traction. For burnouts you want no traction. Not back and forth. Drag shocks have knobs that control the valves to control the reaction of the spring/suspension. Not sure how those hydraulic shocks work…

Please tell me you are going to work with Playground games to get this into Forza Horizon 5 with your other beasts!

Maybe weld a solid bar in-between the two back axles with a bump stop or just solid to stop the tires from pollen away from each other looked like they went back and forth not up and down when it would hop. I could be completely wrong but it seams like it would work. Think you said the same thing not 100% sure though.

U could talk to Dave Sparks from diesel brothers they have built alot of tandem axle trucks heavy d will know how to fix this issue brad ☺️☺️☺️

Call me your step son! Lol 💪🏾 Awesome job you guys.

Watching it, the front axle looks like it's jumping back and forth, as well as up and down. Maybe switch the bushings for heims. There might not be enough weight, I know a deuce and a half will wheel hop when its not loaded

I don't have experience with tandem axle or any of this but always liked science and I see 2 things that are throwing me off cause I don't know if it's just the way the camera makes it look. Are all 4 coilovers in the back mounted at the same vertical degree? And is that stubby shaft that is linking the 2 axles together completely level?

A mad crazy truck and gotta be super fun to drive. Grown man's fun toy...can't got no better than that..😊😁👍🏾

I suggest low mass, low pressure air bigs mounted inside of your coil springs if equipped. A 5the wheel& weighted gooseneck trailer should stabilize the hi torque transition.

You absolutely have to come turn laps at Hyperfest in May at VIR! This thing would be a hit!!!!

Looking to why semi trucks do the axle some of those boys might have an idea and you should probably put a piece of Line-X plexiglass over them drive shafts because that drives have blown up at that RPMs you might call some damage to somebody or something

Guys this build is mental. I noticed the front axle is producing more smoke than the rears. Ie more load on the front axle. Also the marks left from the drift shows the front axle is hopping. My advice would be to put it on scales and make sure you have even weight distribution of the rear 4 foot prints. Maybe some sort of system fitted that is senses the load and unload of the individual tyres and applies load accordingly. Hope this suggestion helps

Try putting some M/T 28x10.5's on it and see how much power you can put down in 660 or 1320 ft.

You had more smoke on the Mitte axel. So let's do this. Put down 6 corner ballence scales. Then play with rear most axel spring tension until the weight ballence of the rear 4 tires are equal as a baseline. Ballence rear tire pressures as well. Both will provide equal tire ware, more traction and maybe less hop.

Get a hold of Heavy D Sparks from diesel brothers. I know they have built several different tandem axle vehicles he might have some answers for you on what could help with all of the wheel hop. @

You should ask some guys who have Big Rig burn out trucks and see what they say They have been doing burn outs with tandem axles for a while now and I don't see there axles hopping to bad in some of the videos I've seen Cool ass truck fellas! Keep doing what your doing

Dudes stop playing with my truck 😂😂😂 I love this truck keep up the good work guys and God bless you 🙏

Is the dif open at all? Or no? Because it’s effectively like a 4wd just with next to no wheelbase, it’s working against itself

You guys need to get Monster or some MAJOR sponser on board. I want to see this truck in the same stuff Hoonicorn is in, Video games , music videos etc. That thing is bad ass.

Would one control arm upper and lower help with both wheels? So like one upper and lower for each side? Fuck hard for explain, when you live hawaii and get that good smoke.