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First Ride 300 XC 2024 - New XACT forks better than AER? 

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@ShareefTraish-dm5wf
@ShareefTraish-dm5wf Год назад
Just by listening to the motor on this 24 XC, I can tell it has A LOT better motor characteristic than the XC-W.
@rickvonderchek6898
@rickvonderchek6898 Год назад
I should of bought the 24 husky tx instead of the 23 but I put the 6500 cartridges in best fork I ever rode .
@motourge3061
@motourge3061 Год назад
I also put the WP6500 kit in my '23 KTM 300XC. Nice working forks without having to constantly check air pressure.
@michaelwendler5589
@michaelwendler5589 Год назад
Maybe someday KTM will have a fork as good as the KYB's? Every year the ktm guys get all excited about new forks, but KYB's have been awesome for yamaha since 2006! I've done nothing the the forks on my new Sherco 300 SE Factory except adjust the clickers, and they've been perfect for me. The fact that I weigh 200lbs might have something to do with it though.
@lukekelly5115
@lukekelly5115 Год назад
The old bladder forks with a revalve are just as good potentially better because the bladder is less stiff than the ics system, ktms valving is always trash lmao
@6Twisted
@6Twisted Год назад
The suspension on my 2022 WR450F sucks. Way too over-sprung and damped from the factory. I'm 95kg and only using about a third of the stroke and that's with wheelies.
@codygrams
@codygrams Год назад
@@6Twisted What does a wheelie have to do with suspension travel?
@6Twisted
@6Twisted Год назад
@@codygrams What goes up must come down.
@Chipstien
@Chipstien Год назад
​@@6Twisted I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that the 22 WR 450 suspension was shit. I'm 250 pounds and yet it was not rideable in stock form. It was like a pogo stick.
@Mark-mq1cc
@Mark-mq1cc Год назад
Seems like KTM has gone full circle....Just wish they would not treat their customers as guinea pigs.
@strictlymitch
@strictlymitch Год назад
Another DBC Video where he bangs on about how good KTM is. Yet they are 10 years behind on suspension and handling They've only updated the suspension because brands like Sherco have forced them to
@rickvonderchek6898
@rickvonderchek6898 Год назад
Jeff Slavens say xcw and xc same transmission
@benmartin6476
@benmartin6476 Год назад
W means wide ratio
@neizpiez
@neizpiez Год назад
@@benmartin6476not anymore. Power/mapping and flywheel differences only
@jeff40
@jeff40 Год назад
From 2010 til 2019 if the carb is jetted properly those KTM 300xc & 250-300xc-w's ran so ,so sweet! They were powerful, had loads of torque, and handled well off-road. The original TPI was just ok now the newer 23 & 24 models with TBI especially the 300xc's are at the top of the 250cc. & 300cc. 2-stroke world. The older ones from 2010 to 19 ran almost like a 4- stroke if they were carbureted.
@carlatamanczyk3891
@carlatamanczyk3891 Год назад
Both the 24 XC and XCW use the same transmissions. The difference is in the drive sprocket teeth but the overall ratios are nearly identical.
@christobey4198
@christobey4198 Год назад
So in reality there is no longer an XCW, the W meant WIDE ratio transmission. I guess W now means softer suspension, detuned motor, and lights??
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
@@christobey4198 yes and to me that's silly.
@Tacoloto-YOYO
@Tacoloto-YOYO 3 месяца назад
Just found out KTM is owned by Baja 300 Austrian technicians laid off what the heck is going on? We are told by actual KTM technician they would not touch a KTM anymore with your 10-ft pole KTMs 300 are blowing cylinders off or 2024 Husqvarna was leaking oil so bad out of the shift seal they replaced it twice now. Is this true? Please tell what you know about this
@bryand2978
@bryand2978 2 месяца назад
I feel like people bitch to much about air forks. If professionals can win races with them, the average joe is not going to be that affected. I have a fx 350 and im fine with it and jump the hell out of it with no issues.
@chestonsm
@chestonsm Год назад
Where are you riding? I tried going up AF canyon last week but the trails were closed.
@philipsmith6152
@philipsmith6152 Год назад
Luv your review, ya gunna hate me, but you need to raise the camera a bit so we can see the track better. Keep the reviews coming man 👍
@aaronmcelhinney1436
@aaronmcelhinney1436 Год назад
Can’t wait to hear which is better in the XC vs XC-W comparison!
@Dat_Sun
@Dat_Sun Год назад
Depends on what you are looking for. Xc prioritizes weight and hp. W does not.
@TheTacticalHouse
@TheTacticalHouse Год назад
I think most guys should go for the XCW.
@Dat_Sun
@Dat_Sun Год назад
@@TheTacticalHouse Oil injection is nice.
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
It won't be better, but different. They're valved for slightly different terrain.
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
@@TheTacticalHousetotally depends on where you're gonna be riding it the most.
@BSm2919
@BSm2919 Год назад
Man it's hard not to want one of those bikes!
@happyhollowtales9034
@happyhollowtales9034 Год назад
Kyle, I can't wait to hear your comparison between the XC and XC-W! I've never liked how the W lacks the snappy power compared to the XC. With both transmissions being the same (supposedly) this year, it should be interesting. I'm also intrigued by the 57hp(XC) vs. 49hp(XC-W) claim. That just seems like way too much power to give up to get a W?
@TeamStruggleBunny
@TeamStruggleBunny Год назад
Had the chance to ride a 24 xcw back to back with my 23 xc. Motor on the xc still has more snap, but the xcw is no slouch either, just different and slightly tamer but easier to ride over distance and in technical. I have the 6500 insert on my xc and liked them over the stock xcw, but to be fair the xcw suspension wasn't set up yet. All in all a very nice platform.
@happyhollowtales9034
@happyhollowtales9034 Год назад
@CdnX690 ,Thanks for the info! I'm going to buy a 24, but I'm still not sure of which one. I have a 2022 300xc and just rode a 2024 300xcw. The older XC still has more snap than the new W. I'm leaning towards the XC. If the stator had the same output as the W, I would probably just stick with the XC.
@TeamStruggleBunny
@TeamStruggleBunny Год назад
@@happyhollowtales9034 I got lucky and found a '23 xc 300 still in the crate so took the discount and bought the 6500 inserts. I also have a '19 300 xc-w and it was really interesting to ride them back to back. Both have merit. Upcoming hare scramble that is on a ski hill has me thinking I'll run the xc-w. Maybe I'll do a back to back video on the two bikes.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
@@TeamStruggleBunny I'm with you on the 19 XCW, that's a very underrated bike and it is an awesome performer.
@chaindrive
@chaindrive Год назад
Just did the same thing. Got a killer deal on a 23 tx300. Plan to do 6500 kit with some of the savings over a 24.
@tandccreations6383
@tandccreations6383 7 месяцев назад
I'm looking at this bike how's the power and from your experience how is the reliability based on my 350 the ktm's have not impressed me
@gastonbelanger5346
@gastonbelanger5346 Год назад
Here's one that few if any consider is when running TuBliss the wheels become way out of balance, this causes the fork and rear shocks shim stack and valving to become outside force interrupted by an on/off fluttering fluid flow through the valving process as the continual rock hits happen the fork oil flow pattern keeps canceling it's self out, there's a lot of fine fork tuning lost by unbalanced wheels~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Braaap!
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
Not sure what you've been smoking but it's probably not legal.
@gastonbelanger5346
@gastonbelanger5346 Год назад
@@onthethrottle7104 It's legal two stroke smoke.
@robinhenley7834
@robinhenley7834 Год назад
True for all unbalanced wheels, not just tubliss. Balancing your d bike wheels is so, so important! You are absolutely correct in the description you gave. So easy to do, yet most do not. They will just chalk it up as, your so high.
@eyalcr500
@eyalcr500 Год назад
Kyle, please say what you think of the forks compared to a standard factory KYB you get on , for example, a WR250F or 'better yet, to those of the Beta 300 Racing !!!
@chalo212
@chalo212 Год назад
I want to see you try MX bikes in a MX track :D
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
Why?
@jeremy_moto_192
@jeremy_moto_192 Год назад
Bro I couldn’t ride the previous model because the cockpit I had to get lower pegs !I feel this model is way more open like the Honda and I’m 6’3’’ shows everyone is different
@chadchandler7
@chadchandler7 Год назад
@dirtbikechannel Kyle how much do you weigh with gear and are you deciding to keep the stocks springs for the fork and the shock? Cheers
@SCakey
@SCakey Год назад
Met a guy with WP-6500 kit on his 'old' bike, he just got a 2024 and said, "Suspension tuners aren't going to like these forks....they are GOOD."
@lukekelly5115
@lukekelly5115 Год назад
Good isn't great lol people still send out sss suspension lmao
@SCakey
@SCakey Год назад
@@lukekelly5115 I don't say this as a bad thing but this guy was a 'suspension nerd' like he did his own valving on things so for him to say that coming from a worked WP-6500 kit and also saying he used to run cone valves said a good bit to me on the new '24 suspension. I think KTM has used mediocre forks over the last few years (I don't mind the AER but not huge on Xplor's) so this is a good move in the right direction.
@lukekelly5115
@lukekelly5115 Год назад
@@SCakey i do my own stuff too but anyone who races will quickly find something they don't like about the suspension or want it to do something different like I said even with stock sss people still have it revalved
@SCakey
@SCakey Год назад
@@lukekelly5115 I hear ya, I spend that money too, I think we're really agreeing here but I'm just saying it's a fairly good suspension from what I hear on these.
@thekevinator149
@thekevinator149 10 месяцев назад
The new xact spring fork doesnt hold a candle to 6500s. It shares many components with the old air fork it just uses springs instead of an air chamber.
@mritalianhillbilly
@mritalianhillbilly Год назад
My Erzbergrodeo 300 xcw is the Cadillac bike of trails, love spring forks, they leak a bit but they’re awesome
@carlatamanczyk3891
@carlatamanczyk3891 Год назад
The stators are different between both bikes too.
@hithereson
@hithereson Год назад
The XC can run a headlight though huh?
@michaelwalas5948
@michaelwalas5948 Год назад
Hey Kyle, I’d recommend you try 15psi on the front and 9psi on the rear. 👌🏼
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
I just bought one. I'm glad the forks are good.
@justinharmston3868
@justinharmston3868 Год назад
What made you get it over the XC-W? I have a 300 XCW on order and I also live here in utah but I am wondering if I should have gone with the 250 or the XC because I want to do a lot of riding at the dunes too.
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
@@justinharmston3868 the riding I do is more cross country. Mixture of 2nd and third gear stuff and some singletrack. I think the XC is more versatile that's all
@JOEMAMA.95
@JOEMAMA.95 Год назад
Any 4 strokes 2024 coming like a 250f?
@justinfisher8749
@justinfisher8749 Год назад
Hey Kyle would you consider getting the 24 Yamaha wr450 ?
@brianh8484
@brianh8484 Год назад
You think it will be updated ?
@justinfisher8749
@justinfisher8749 Год назад
@@brianh8484 I think so with the updates the yz’s got last year they should be moving to the wr
@brianh8484
@brianh8484 Год назад
@@justinfisher8749 I’m sure the FX will. WR I’m not confident. I hope they do though. Give us a 350 and I’ll be doing cartwheels to the dealer
@justinfisher8749
@justinfisher8749 Год назад
@@brianh8484 I want to get the 450 this year
@mmig2116
@mmig2116 Год назад
So lucky the views alone are priceless! Great trails
@cooptroop5
@cooptroop5 Год назад
Looks almost as good as my 250x…that I valved! 😜
@Louis_caforio
@Louis_caforio Год назад
Is it me or is the audio screwing up?
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
Looking forward to see ya dial them in.
@eugrules
@eugrules Год назад
I have the same bike, I love it.
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
Those face slappers suck!
@richardhartley7094
@richardhartley7094 Год назад
It is a awesome bike👍
@FrankyboyGiovanni-yz8qi
@FrankyboyGiovanni-yz8qi Год назад
Has xc tbi like xcw
@2vino2
@2vino2 Год назад
I wonder if it would be possible to swap the new forks on an older bike!
@kweholt
@kweholt Год назад
I have a 23 XC 250 which came with the AER fork. I swapped in the MX Tech Lucky Cartridges (it’s a spring conversion). It’s amazing now and it was only like $1200 for the upgrade
@kurtheidelbach
@kurtheidelbach Год назад
@@kweholt Man should have done Ravens
@TacomaJack09
@TacomaJack09 Год назад
It sucks to hear these new TBI’s are so much better than TPI’s when I just saved up and bought a ‘22 TX300 😅
@Briank-ef5iq
@Briank-ef5iq Год назад
I got a 22 250xc an love it just a weekend warrior! For the average rider TBI not gonna make u a better rider ! My son who’s 17 rides a rebuilt Rm 125 an everyone we ride with push hard to keep up !
@dustinc89
@dustinc89 Год назад
I put a TSP tune and head on my 21 TE300I, way better now!
@brianmullins739
@brianmullins739 Год назад
Fair... not going to make you a better rider. For me though it is about the fun factor. TBI's are sooo much freaking fun!
@Briank-ef5iq
@Briank-ef5iq Год назад
@@brianmullins739 I’ve never ridden a good running dirt bike 2stroke that is that wasnt fun ! Have you ?
@MathewsGuitarWorks
@MathewsGuitarWorks Год назад
I like how Kyle doesn’t cuss so much that he uses substitute cuss words and cuss words from other English speaking countries to cuss in PG any way…lol
@Dat_Sun
@Dat_Sun Год назад
Heavy is moving backwards. Aer for xc, old heavy springs and oil for trails.
@robinhenley7834
@robinhenley7834 Год назад
Agree
@thecocooreo
@thecocooreo Год назад
That's nice, but it needs some Supermoto wheels to experience all the performance, wheelies and braaaps the way God intended it to be!
@richardehair-kz9np
@richardehair-kz9np Год назад
Hey Kyle I really enjoy your videos, you will have to let me know where that trail is, it looks awesome. I believe I'm close to where you are at.
@robinhenley7834
@robinhenley7834 Год назад
Kyle! Comp and rebound work in conjunction with each other. You should know this by now. On this fork it is a one to one ratio. When you open up the comp 4 you have to open up the reb 4. If you don't, the fork will pack and produce a more harsh ride. Owners manual!
@a.ron_j9875
@a.ron_j9875 Год назад
Thats complete horse shit. Comp and rebound damping can be adjusted completely independently for each terrain. They do impact each other SLIGHTLY but not much. They dont have to be adjusted together.
@DirtBikeChannel
@DirtBikeChannel Год назад
Yes.... AND it's not wise to make more than one adjustment at a time. YOU should know this by now :). I make comp and reb adjustments independent of one another so that I can actually determine what changes are being made.
@robinhenley7834
@robinhenley7834 Год назад
Horse s--t! Hmm ok. Yes, you can adjust comp and reb independently. You can do whatever you please. I completely disagree, they do impact each other HUGELY! What i do know after 48yrs of riding moto, enduro and tuning susp. Is that both circuits affect one another. I would just suggest, Kyle, that you try what the Wp factory recommends. Just try it. BTW,I have watched you're vids from day one and will continue to do so. Quality entertainment for the d bike junkie. Just try it! One for one!
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