First Roman Emperor VS Last Roman Emperor 

Who said we were defeated?

@@makutas-v261 what do u mean

@@billychops1280 There are still Romans, mostly in Anatolia, and in Greece, but Romans still exist.

@@KraNisOG there are absolutely no Roman’s left I’m literally Greek, there are no Roman’s left nationally because the stare no longer exist and there are no Roman’s left ethnically because they were all wiped out in the west by the Germans ethnically and died out in the east because the Greek culture won out, also there are absolutely none left in Anatolia even if there were some remnants in Greece

@Billy Chops There are people who still identify as Roman. Just because my experience is anecdotal doesn't mean it isn't true.

Meanwhile the Mother of all canons fire Grant shells into the walls

@@denizmergen418 by the Time Constantine XI addressed the last of the Roman soldiers that cannon has blown up or failed lol

@deniz mergen cope turkmongol

@@myhonorwasloyalty You meant to reply to deniz mergen.

Probably made up. who recorded it if the city was pillaged for several days and Constantine’s Garrison killed or made slaves?

Most people don't recognize the significance of the time frame. History gotta luv it. ✌️

@@blushdog99 I wonder how that would have been like

@@ServalShots Probably like the ottomans it would end up as the sick man of Europe. The Mediterranean sea ended up as a cruel trap for the Italians and Ottomans, so unless the Byzantines used that Roman-es to make the Suez canal long before it happened (and as much as I am impressed by the superstructures the Romans built for their time I can't in good faith tell you that they would open up the Suez) they would ultimately end up meeting a similar fate to the Ottomans, only difference, depending on how you change history, Asia minor would be predominantly Greek.

Great

​@@blushdog99 how differently it's impossible for a rome to exist in our modern times

Nah. The last Emperor was Franz II of the Holy Roman Empire. And he got clapped by Napoleon.

​@@randomdude2026 That German abomination was never the Roman Empire. Their legitimacy is as strong as a dying horse. The Eastern Roman Empire was the direct descendant of Rome. No Pope has the Authority to crown an emperor, they never have. Charlemagne was a false Emperor, a pretender and a larper, same with Otto I and Mehmet I. Weak fools who's empires never lasted as long as the Eastern Romans.

​@@randomdude2026 Remember that the German Empire only had Holy and Roman in the name.

@@bvillafuerte765 No they were Romans. that is the reason why they are called ROMANS.

@@randomdude2026 No. They weren't Roman Empire. They were a Germanic random people who claimed be the Roman Empire. HRE Not Holy. Not Roman. Not an Empire.

True but he would put a dagger in his back if he can for one Caesar is enough.

You're equivocate

@@DK-zy5fm “too many Caesars are not good”

​​@@negusa.nagast Jamukha: Like the sun there can only be one great khan in Mongolia. *Flashbacks to Marc Antony.* A man who was once a friend of a man that was supposedly an emperor turned enemy like Jamukha a once friend of a soon emperor of Mongols turned into an enemy.

i don’t think he would

Greetings to Greece and Italy from Mexico! :D

Chads????? That a american term?

@@mrscanlan.5016 it has too be. American English is, to be honest, a little non formal dialect.

@@mrscanlan.5016 yes it is.

Love Greece from Brazil!

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Then Constantine said: "Augustus, Justinian, Constantine; they will be watching!"

based I went to the comment section to make sure that someone posted the actual quote. Also the regnal title is wrong too. Constantine was not Emperor and Autocrat of the Hellenes and Romans, but just of the Romans.

So badass

Tbh if he had ruled the Byzantine empire in a better position he possibly could’ve been pretty good if not great

He actually reached thessaly

@@fatherdiobrando1281 no such byzantine

​@@stevenjames6830It's just a different way to call the eastern romans

The Byzantines were the Roman Empire it was only in the 1850s that they coined the Name Byzantine, they were the same state.

I thought the reason was that of making historical study convenient and to avoid ambiguity, as in how Octavian is not referred to as "Gaius Julius Caesar" (which was his official name between 44 BC and 30 BC).

​@@alexthegamer-is-coolthe term Byzantine was coined in 1557,not 1850

@@Progamermove_2003 While that likely wasn't the true reason, it is 100% the reason why I use the term Byzantine. When you say Roman Empire, you're generally not describing a bunch of Greeks in the 12th century.

@@Meirstein Romans are trojans who are greeks so romans=greeks, greeks=romans.

More funny, Troy fell because it was attacked from the West. Eastern Roman Empire died also close to Anatolia by being attacked from the East.

Trojans are not the same ethnic people as Greece nor did they share culture, you should actually read the mythology of Troy and what kind of people they were and how different they were to that of the Mycenaean, Aeneas was a Trojan figure and not a Greek one, and yes Roman mythology claims descent from Troy as the first Romans were the Alban tribe in Italy and its founder of Alba Longa Julius Ascanius (who was also an ancestor of Romulus and Remus) from whom all Romans descent from and the ancestor of Julius Caesar. Ascanius was the son of Aeneas whom was the son of the goddes Venus. Romans never claimed ancestry from modern Greek regions, they claimed descent from Asia. You should also read how different Roman culture and social system was compared to the Greek, the only thing that was identical was their gods but with different names and other aspects to them.

@@alejandrosotomartin9720 You could still say that Constantinople fell from an attack from the West. Just for clearification, I am talking about the 1453 siege and not the 4th crusade.

@@JastwatchingYT The turks also blocked the Bosphorus and had taken the Asian side prior.

@@Smurfen249 I think they're saying that, Rome claims descent from Troy - which was destroyed by Greeks - and ended up being a culturally and ethnically greek state.

You didn't fail me Constantine. You did what any pious emperor of Rome would've done, you went down with that sinking ship. You couldn't have known Orban's cannons would actually work, honestly, the T*rks were both dumb for giving him a chance, and lucky they actually worked.

@@augustuscaesar8287 Some nights, Augustus, I still see them. I still see them in my dreams. I still hear the cannons destroying the walls, the civilians running in fear.. I could have escaped. What if I escaped? Would It have been smarter? I could have moved the capital in Epirus and tried a reconquest like back in 1261.

Don’t worry Mehmed gonna continue the legacy of Rome 👍

@@rohansensei5708 That petty Turkish Kingdom doesnt mean anything. Rome started in 753 BC and ended in 1453. Thats It.

@@Riccksu You became nothing more than greeks once Michael III declared Latin to be a barbarian language.

Trojans were a greek tribe

@@eZgr also the find archeological evidence that the Etruscan the use the same alphabet with the Lemnian alphabet where was also next to Troy! The best theory where I believe.. that the trojans after the war move first to lemnos and then to the north Italy where the colonised and later the found Rome!

And that they both spoke Greek and had Mediterranean vibes

@@TaeSunWoo well Augustus ordered to speak Latin in official meetings because he was italocentric

Well no, they both had Roman Imperialism, similar military structure, also the term Byzantine wasn't used until the 19th or 18th century to try to show that the Eastern Romans weren't successor, all that was different was language, religion and land change, like if the United States moved it's capital to Denver, would it still be the US? They both also held Roman Citizenship, we can't also forget about the Roman senate in both empires.

yeah

That quote comes way after and not even from a primary source

@@klol3369 its a special quote and a great source.

@@akariito4579 I ask you, if he went on a suicide charge with his men and died, how does anyone know what he said? Considering they all died too

@@klol3369 its from his speach before the last day his last speach to his people in the last liturgie. descendants of romans and greeks. Btw he spoke in greek while being the last roman emperor. we dont change history just for you. are you agglosaxon or frankian?

Sure!

Starting with a band of outcasts and thieves looking for a proper place of their own and willing to kill their own brother if need be… much like many of the Romans to come.

Augustus actually(his adopted boy)

Did Paisios prophesy that Greece will go broke and become a pathetic failed nation?

​@@supertramp72as far as failed nations go,Greece is doing okay

​@4D1N tbf you needed the Turkish equivalent of Napoleon Bonaparte to survive these odds, in modern day things doesnt work like that anymore

@4D1N destroying the Ottomans, pushing back the greeks, French and Italians and more (and France was considered at the time to be the strongest army in the world since germany fell and the Soviets were in civil war) all with the remnants of the remnants of the Ottoman Empire (because Anatolia was already well in the process of being invaded, and it was the last standing remnant of the Empire). Frankly only miracles couldve saved the country at this point, and miracles did happen then, but miracles cant happen on command

Funny you talk about that given Christians decimated Hellenistic and Roman cultures and it's no surprise that introducing Christianity causes a 800 year old stable empire to crash in 150 years.

Many roman emperors were ethically greeks

​@@gikkjj72some roman emperors even where arab

@@terrybogars8933 yes only one Philip the 1st he was syrian arab and its was way before the great schism of estern and western roman empire. the eastern roman empire were culturaly greek, many emperors were even armenians.

@@gikkjj72Heraclius had blood ties in Armenia

@@doteleven5890 i know

We Bulgarians are also honoured that this man was of our kin. The Balkan states' last fights against the Ottomans, such a fitting end to such glorious civilizations.

Not our kin, but we Serbs respect Greeks.

@@Svevladovich How was he not of our kin? His mother was Jelena Dejanović Dragaš, daughter of Konstantin Dejanović (Beg Kostadin) who was a grandson of King Stefan Dečanski of Nemanjić dynasty. The Marble Emperor himself was proud of his Serbian heritage. That's why he adopted his mother's last name Dragaš.

@@pathfinder2reality Maybe they have Serbian blood but Serbians don't have Roman / Greek blood.

@@Svevladovich I like the greeks as well. However, Konstantin (his real name in the town of his birth) was born in a Serbian town Niš. The name of his mother was Jelena which is a Serbian name. Don’t you recognise the background flag in the video behind his sculpure with CC+CC (Which on cyrilic means 4 times "S" around a cross "SS+SS - Samo sloga srbina spasava" which means “Only unity saves the Serbs”)? The style of Konstantin's war armor was not of greek origin but of the traditional serbian origin, as you can see on this sculpture. At that time south Serbs (Macedonians) and Greeks fought together against enemies the same way like in time of Alexander the Great ("Aleksandar Makedonski" - "Alexander the Macedonier", which were his real first and last name). More questions?

Yes. In Greek is Dragatsis ΔΡΑΓΑΤΣΗΣ

He was from Nis but has no connection to Serbia as the slav migration happened after his death

@@tyr404 Have you even watched the video? You're talking about Constantine the Great, this is a different Constantine, who lived 1000 years later.

@@tyr404 And by the way, history is not black and white. South Serbians (In Nish) have the same haplogroups as Kosovar Albanians and Vlachs, mostly the same Paleo-Balkan genetics. A lot of old natives just got assimilated into the Slavic language. The Torlak dialect for example, was traditionally full of Albanian and Vlach words and grammar. But Serbia is mocking this dialect, and it's dying.

And how Eastern Rome started with a Constantine and ended with a Constantine

@@oof5576 poetic

@@captaincole4511 poetic indeed

​@@oof5576started with arcadius ended with Constantine

Romulus founded Rome and the Roman kingdom not empire and Romulus Augustulus was a userper with no claim and the eastern Roman Empire was Rome

Well yes you are right. But it was obvious to everyone that this move was a desperate attempt to secure aid from the Catholic powers, rather than a genuine belief.

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Great points mate. Many people do not realize the facts that you listed. The martyrdom of Nicholas II marked the end of the last true Orthodox Kingdom or Empire. However the legacy is a lot weaker today in the west because the realm has been post feminist.

Western Roman Empire, the first Rome. Eastern Roman Empire, the second Rome. Spanish Empire, the third Rome. Russian Empire, the fourth Rome. German Empire, the fifth Rome.

​@@bvillafuerte765 the Ottomans have a far better claim to the title of successor than the Spanish, Russians or Germans.

@@tezz2698 Not because the Spanish king obtained the title of Roman emperor through his grandparents, the Russian tsar married a niece of the last Roman emperor and the German emperor was blessed by the pope.

@@bvillafuerte765 The Spanish never did anything with it, marrying the niece doesn't make Russia the third Rome it desperately claims to be and the Pope did not have the authority to crown Roman Emperors. The Ottomans conquered the Roman Empire and continued to rule its people. The Ottoman Empire was not a Roman empire, but the Sultan was the Emperor of the Romans. The Ottoman conquest was no different from the conquest of China by the Manchurian Qing dynasty. Out of these 4 Empires, the Ottomans were also the only ones to rival Rome's prosperity, prestige and cultural value.

We salute you.

Yes

Source?

hahaha

​@@aggelosboultas Constantine xi is very brave man Even though he can run away. He didn't,and faught against Muslim pagan rock worshippers till dead. Even Great Emperor Augustus won't manage to win this siege because easten romans only had 7k,and Turks had 80k,but Constantine managed to kill half of Turks,which is impressive and almost even won. So don't underestimate him.

@@Carolus-Rex Yes, friend. You are right. We can not underestimate him. He was one of the greatest emperors to ever live.

@@Carolus-Rex Pope and holy roman empire : enter the chat

@@belugabeluga8944 Still,They Don't helped fellow Christians,even they're strong and they can, that isn't true Roman Civillization would do and definitely barbaic.

Last died as a hero and showed what it meant to fight like a Roman.

Le dernier est mort en empereur

Mon français n'est pas bien, pardon. Le dernier est mort un empereur. He was purple-born, destined to be emperor, saw great victories in Thrace, Macedonia and Morea. He would have been one of the great ones if he had more resources to work with. In the end, he fell to an overwhelming foe against which Rome defended Europe and Christendom for 800 years. He died as an emperor.

Constantine was not great, it was a name bestowed on him by the Christian church but in the bigger picture of how things turned out was that he led to the fracture of the empire and it's down fall.

Its still debated, both sides have some seriously good points, but he most likely sided with the natural causes side because ever since Augustus was young he had gotten really sick on multiple occasions (a VERY unnatural amount for even back then, it is clear he had a weak immune system). even during the war with Brutus. This was probably just the last of these really sick incursions, he was also a pretty old man for when he died (70s was old old back then). Although it cannot be proven, we can theorize on what happened. This is generally the common consensus and that he died from natural causes.

I support the motion.

@@bvillafuerte765 veto!

Nobody knows the name of the first king for sure. Legends tell it was Romulus himself but nobody knows.

It's Octavian right...

@@nicmagtaan1132 no lol.. Octavian is the 1st Emperor

Hey now. Little Octavian was very brave. He just felt a little sick and missed that one battle. Maybe it happened another time. And another. But that’s not important

Augustus/Octavius/Caesar was a man of great courage wth are you talking about.

@@dominusvolpus8031 While with Caesar in Gaul, he spent much of his tour ill. He would have the same bouts of illness during Philipi, which could be seen as genuine, but always struck me as nerves. During his campaign against Sextus Pompeius, he observed the landings of his first wave in Sicily before taking a rowboat and leaving the island on his own, handing command to his commanders. Later, during the same campaign, he would spend an entire battle laying on the beach refusing to answer to his commanders, only to get up at the end of the battle. There are numerous accounts of his aversion to bloodshed throughout his life. While it takes courage to take the world by storm, in doing so, he destroyed Italy and refused to be a part of the fighting until his image required him to be visibly a part of engagements, and only after he was ensured safety - mostly for public appearances.

@@maxwhitworth9178 he was a great emperor though

@@Iamnotracistlmao To be fair, I don’t know much about him after teutoburg, so he could have been. I do know that after Philipi, he had pairs of fathers and sons - Roman men HE declared war on - brought before him and made them draw straws to see who had to watch the other die first. During the land grants for Caesar’s veterans, he repossessed land that people owned, as in he had legal officials walk up to 20,000 homes and tell the people inside they no longer lived there with no legal recourse, and no payment for the land. Then, the veterans were settled. However, the veterans weren’t good farmers, and inside of a year, the city of Rome was bursting with urban homeless and the farms had all failed so badly that the city fell into famine. Marcus Aurelius was a good emperor. Diocletian was a good emperor. Octavian was a cruel, self righteous war monger who would have seen the whole world dead if he wasn’t ruling it

Sure…

He had children?

@@culturalliberator9425 his niece

The Russians never had a legitimate claim, nor did the Spanish. The Austrians did have a somewhat a sound claim but let’s be honest they where a colony that took rulership over the decaying leftovers of West Rome.

@@darth3911 Thats the point of my comment

​@@darth3911Spanish have the biggest claim cousin have the title to Spain so yea

Paramerion swords i think this type is called.