Two more Pro-Tips for not jumping up and down to much (gosh I struggled with that one, too!) - Turn off the ADC-Filter in your Radio's main settings - Mark Spatz did a video on that and OMG why didn't I learn about this before... This eliminated 80% of the issue - Check your throttle percentage when you hover and introduce a throttle expo of .50 with that hovering percentage as throttle mid-point - this gives you significantly more resolution and feel around the very throttle value that actually counts (Thanks to Chris Rosser's tuning guide for that one, it really changed my life!) Also of course actual rates plus high expo are great for smooth indoor flying - I gradually got mine up to a value of 10 center point and .55 expo - which makes the quad feel ultra smooth around center stick position. These things alltogether turn a nervous flimsy quad into something that feels super mature, perfectly controlable and gives you buttery smooth videos all without even using hypersmooth or realsteady in the first place :)
@@LIFPV The wobbles come from little angular movements in the whoop induced by the wind that the quad tries to compensate for. A critically tuned quad with really high Master Slider and as little filtering as possible helps with that (if the frame allows for this kind of tuning). The faster, stronger and more precise the quad can respond to those wind-distortions, the more stable it stays. Whoops are sadly both: bad in noise characteristics and more prone to wind distortions as ducts/prop guards provide a larger surface area. So prepare for a bit of tuning struggle.
Protip: shoot 30fps and then slow it down in a 24fps timeline. You will be still getting good light to your sensor, it will look smoother and the people will still look like they are walking normal, but with a "dreamy" effect. This way you avoid going up to 60fps where there's no much light available!
@@sterkfpv2192 That's true if you're keeping it at normal speed, but I think what Dario is saying is that you can shoot at 30fps and slow it down by 80% in a 24fps timeline, you'd still be using one full image per frame with no interpolation. Same as how shooting in 60fps lets you slow down to 50% speed in a 30fps timeline (or down to 40% in 24 fps timeline). The formula is [ framerate ] / [ timeline fps ] = [ percent you can slow down to without interpolation]
Great video, Matt! Small tip for getting smoother Cinewhoop Shots: Use a throttle curve in Betaflight! Pretty easy to set up and for cinewhooping it's a game changer for holding a continuous altitude Greetings
Man, you have really good pronunciation. Now I am learning English and doing my first steps to understanding speech by ear. This is so nice to get interesting content, almost understand everything and discover about commercial footage. Thanks
Great video! Could you please do a separate video about how to fine tune your GoPro settings for indoor low light shots as well as the best settings for filming when flying from an indoor setting to an outdoor, or vice versa, in one shot. Thanks!
Hi Matt, great work and I don’t believe it’s just “luck” that you got those jobs, I believe luck is when preparation meets opportunity and you made it happen by learning to fly and getting good at it and then you reached out to people that lead to an opportunity! So mate it’s not luck it’s hard work and creating your own opportunity’s. so keep it up.
Great video man! I almost recently started learning fpv! I did some indoor flying projects and some things that worked for me is to fly horizon or leveled mode(acro is to jerky for smooth indoor flying), turn air mode off or programming it to deactivate at zero throttle and always prepare your shot!
Nice video. Thanks. You were talking about ground effect and bouncing up and down. I've been watching a lot of videos lately trying to learn what you do, one things that's been talked about a lot in different videos is turning off "air mode" in beataflight if you are going to be flying close to the ground a lot.
Love this vid! Such great tips! you didn't talk about throttle expo though? That's helped me so much reducing the bobble and changing some of the Betaflight settings on how twitchy the quad responds to stick movements. Awesome vid though, watched this cos I'm hoping to do a fly through of my office next week
The timing for this video is suspiciously amazing considering i'm waiting for my first 3.5 cinewhoop. Amazing video, it would also have been nice to know how much you charge for these fpv jobs
He didn’t charge for the Hyatt shoot because he was on a work visa in South Korea and legally could not make money anywhere else. Mentions it in another video.
This is awesome! I’m trying to start doing indoor flying for companies in China where we live. Very helpful video! I liked your review on the Protek 35, just put in my order!
Hello, Matt, Thank you very much, I like your friendly and professional way of presenting things. You guys from Canada seem to be somewhat more relaxed than these typical FPV guys from the US ;-)
Thank you so much! I've been in the film industry a while editing and videography. Got into fpv for racing and now wanting to do drone cinematography. This helps a lot. ☺
Very helpful video Matt 👍 i contacted a few fmx pilots in my area and they're down to shoot so I'm excited, just waiting to receive that hero 10 tomorrow and get used to it, next thing I want to do is getting into cinewhoops to do those type of indoor shoots 🔥
Great material. I live in Poland and I am also trying to start a company dealing professionally with fpv recordings. Your advice is very valuable to me. Especially those regarding indoor flying. Thank you :)
Great video, full of helpful advice. One thing to add: the tune. A lot of undesirable handling bugs can be tuned out of any platform. I've tuned my el-cheapo, 100g, 2S micro to fly like a cine-whoop: smooth and predictable. It flies like a toaster out-of-the-box, but with updated firmware for both the ESCs and the flight controller, and a thorough tuning, it's a completely different beastie. I get greatly improved propwash handling, and ground effects are almost negligible. It's made proxy flying fun, with almost zero pucker factor.
The bobble: Throttle control. This is 99% the issue, your ground effect thing is kinda...eh. Tiny quad so far up in the air isn't being affected by ground effect. Quads are great at handling their own propwash and wind. Train your throttle control, add expo to your throttle, do something to minimize the twitching in your throttle.
Hey Matt, thanks again for the great video. I've recently done my first cinewhoop business tour (from sending emails to local businesses) and it went great, I did it for free for my portfolio but posted the video as an ad on Facebook and I've got 4 potential jobs/leads off of it. My problem is now I need to make contracts and invoices for these paid jobs. Did you do contracts for these clients? And did you end up making a full edit for them or just sending over stabilised footage?
So this job in Korea was really unique because it was illegal for me to get paid for it so it was more of an exchange of services as well as footage for my reel. You should definitely write up a contract for any paid jobs you're getting in your country though. I did make an edit for them as well but that would be a part of your contract. Different clients might want different things.
Thank you for the video. This is useful for me. I have been using FPV for 4 months, I also want to shoot in rooms and restaurants beautifully. And yes, my quad is up and down, it's hard to keep it straight.
My charging suggestion, wire in a deep cycle rv battery with a stinger battery isolator solenoid into the trunk of your car. If you use a dc capable charger you'll be set
Great stuff! How would you feel about shooting that with a Shendrones Squirt and a full gopro (without the battery). Would the extra weight concern you in an environment like that? I'm debating on getting a backup squirt, or another pavo30 or similar..
For interiors, I’ve been using the DJI FPV Drone in stabilized mode (positioning sensors) with prop guards and a hero 8 to good result. No unwanted bobbing.
@@eganeggzythornycroft1084 I certainly agree with that. I’m not saying this is a good drone for tight spaces or in close proximity to people, but the DJI has proven a good tool for some extensive interior work for me. In normal/sport modes the positioning sensors provide for very smooth, stable, and safe flight.
@@DavidZalka Absolutely too big for tight proximity shots, which is an essential element for one-shots. However with the prop guards and a hero 8 mounted, and stabilized by positioning sensors in N/S mode, I fly through doors and windows, closely over tables and in reasonable proximity to objects safely and with confidence. Imagine if DJI released a small whoop style quad with its stabilizing functionality!
Technical question. Could you have done the same video shoot with the Cine Log 35 instead of the 25? Curious because I have the 35 and so far it feels like you have to fly too fast for great smooth indoor video.
I'm a little confused about the comment about frame rate and how that relates to the amount of light getting into the camera? Do you run auto shutter? Or do you do the 180° rule so your shutter speed is changing relative to your FPS (2:1 shutter speed to FPS)? Looks like your naked GoPro has an ND filter, couldn't you use a lower number ND filter to get more light? Sorry for the confusion, I just never knew FPS affects light in the shot.
No, you're right! So I always shoot following the 180 rule and it's not the increased frame rate, but the increased shutter speed that goes along with it which would limit the light. In my head I just always look at them as one combined pair. So if I was shooting at 60fps, I'd have a 1/120 shutter which would limit the light. There was no ND filter on the camera during this shoot
Always bring spare drones XD loved your clips and work, I'm at the same place where I in cooperate the FPV stuff into my video productions. And it's working!
I can't wait to see what you can do with the gopro 10.. imagine naked gopro 10 settings. I hope to be able to do videos for the Hotels here on the Big Island of Hawaii.
I have the cinelog 25 with a peanut camera and I'm looking to do a fly through video like you did at the restaurant but for my son's car dealership. But this drone is so loud I mean very loud was that a concern for you or do I have something wrong? Any comment or advice would be appreciated
I wouldn't say so. I'm pretty good with unplugging my batteries and not letting the quad sit for too long. There were a few times when I had to wait a few minutes before taking off though, so it's possible!
Congrats mate! I had really planned on getting into real-estate but the tightening regulations here in Australia made me pull the pin. I still fly recreationally but don't film much now :(
Hey Matt, thanks for your helpful videos and all the tips! I was wondering if you have any idea how to shoot vertical videos for social media with the Cinelog25 and a naked GoPro. Unfortunately I could only find vertical mounts for full size GoPros online. Cheers :)
I've never tried that but, if I was going to, I'd probably do it by just figuring out a way to stick it to the drone with double sided foam tape. Unless you know how to design your own 3D parts or want to pay someone to do it, all current naked cases will be designed for horizontal mounting
This is going to sound like such a noob question but nobody seems to acknowledge it - for these flythroughs are you flying in angle or acro? Thanks so much!
Hi Matt, have you tried mounting a dji pocket 2 camera on this drone, is that possible? It would be awesome to have tilt locked gimbal of dji pocket 2 to fly around keeping the vertical straight.
@@MattPochwat wow! Yeah, I think that a GoPro settings video will help a lot of people, can’t wait for it :) Btw, you were flying Acro mode? or horizon?
I’m also using betafpv360 camera on drone. How do you adjust the video quality it records in? My footage is sometimes hd sometimes really low quality. Thanks
Nice job Matt! How much do ou think is possible to charge for a video like this? It is something new and people somtimes do not understanding why they must pay too much for that...
I would argue quite the opposite. Because it's new and much more specialized than photography or regular videography, you can actually charge more for your services. How much you charge exactly would depend on a lot of factors though. I'm going to do more research and maybe make a video on that.
@@MattPochwat thank you for your reply, I appreciate it. You are totally right, I agree with you. And I try to explain it to my clients. Just to give you an ideia, I'm charging something around $400,00 (I imagine that it is cheap, isn't it?) I can't wait to see your video talking about it. Thank you so much for sharing knowledge. God bless you.
@@DPGuinhO87 I'm not sure where you live, but if you are somewhere in North America, $400 would be far too low. Email me at mattpochwat@gmail.com and I'll link you to some information that I've found