Fun fact - the beginning battle (Battle of Marathon) was the Greek victory where Philippides was ordered to literally run back to Athens to deliver the good news. Upon arriving, he yelled "Nike!" ("Victory!" in Greek) as he collapsed to his death from sheer exhaustion. This is what inspired the modern day sporting event known as a "marathon".
In history the movie Rise of an Empire fictitious tells of the naval battle that occurred at the Battle of Thermopylae. One of the reasons Xerces could not just sail around the 300 was there was a naval fleet preventing them from doing so.
Omg, I thought that since the first reaction video I saw from your channel. I was like "She looks like Eva Green"...who of course is a beautiful and total bad ass. The Mrs. can so be her twin. Ironically, Eva Green has a twin sister in real life.
@@YouMeTheMovies yeah same. Hope Snyder directs again, probably won't happen though. Either way, i hope they keep the visuals as good as the first two. You can find this information on IMDB's website.
"Even if the chain was attached to you" that line has been driving me nuts lol I can't figure out what he meant by that. Glad you also noticed that, most reactors don't. Thanks for the great reaction! 🙏🏻
I think that phrase means a lot more. They respect each other, they’re both warriors and commanders, they’re fearless, they’re are attracted to each other. When he talks about the chain he’s talking about lack of freedom and servitude but the “Even if it was attached to you” part conveys a degree of sadness because they’re kindred spirits with different priorities. I think he likes her a lot but his conviction is stronger which makes her respect him even more. They would have been unstoppable together but they were loyal to their individual causes and yielding is not an option.
Like, how you can't figure it out? He meant something like:"I don't care what you can offer me, I wont betray my nation and my brothers and i wont be your fuck boy even if I like you a lot"
This movie couldn’t make up its mind about what it wanted to be. Themistocles was a brilliant tactician, and saved Greece through years of planning and political strategy. It also took 8 years too long for this sequel.
Seemed like they tried too hard to give everyone an "epic" speech and memorable one liners just so it could live up to the ones in the original. And some of those slow motion shots were just unnecessary and didn't seem to fit in some scenes. In the original, it worked, but they tried too hard with this one.
If you want to see more of Eva Green 😉 I can heartily recommend the Penny Dreadful series. Victorian London, science, monsters, murder and mayhem. Edit: The original was better. This sequel was quite okay, could have been much worse.
The dialog isn't nearly as poetic in this one as in 300. One of the strongest points of 300 is its absolute romanticised language towards the peril they're facing. It give such a realistic touch to it all cuz that was actually how they thought back then, glorious death and all that.
I think the victor is implied heavily by the fact that Greece still exists today, but the Persian Empire does not. While the real Artemesia didn't die the way it's depicted in the film, she was actually a naval commander in the Persian military and one of Xerxes most trusted advisors in a time when you tend not to think of women as having that kind of authority...women couldn't serve in the US armed forces until quite recently, whereas Artemesia was considered brilliant even by her enemies over two millennia ago.
There is no need for any "implying". The end of the first movie already showed that the war would not be decided at this point in time, but rather last into the next year. Also, your logic is faulty. For example, see who won World War 2, despite the fact that Germany, Italy and Japan still exist today, while the Soviet Union does not.
@@MareTranquil They didn't have puppet governments back then, winning in the modern world means installing puppets to make your enemies your proponents of your idealogy, Persia shattered into pieces and then slowly became the Achaemenid Empire, before Alexander the Great would conquer it once again and then would pretty much dissolve more from economic reasons than anything else, given rise to the multitude of entities that would become the progenitors of Arab states. Nazi Germany, the Imperial Japan and fascist Italy were destroyed in a similar fashion that the Soviet Union fell. The modern day governments aren't founded on the same roots. They became western allies because of the puppet states we planted meanwhile Russia and China who were enemies of Germany and Japan now are the greatest "enemies" of the West
Xerxes is played by Brazilian actor named Rodrigo Santorio, he was in the Charlie’s angels sequel from the early 2000’s, but you probably remember him from HBO’s Westworld where he plays Hector!
There is another movie he is on called “Carandiru” that’s really good, but it’s subtitled. You should check it out when you have a chance. Keep up the good work on the reactions!
"Glabourous and smooth..." they really busted out the thesaurus for this one. 🤣🤣🤣 I actually enjoy this one more than the first. Showing Persia as people, instead of grotesques like the 1st, really adds another layer, and the finale with that horse is pure 🔥.
Love it when T shows fear of the perfect spartans. And artemesia is confused to see his fear, like she missed out on the real fight - fomo before you die.
Artemisia I of Caria was a Queen of the Greek city-state of Halicarnassus, she fought as an ally of Xerxes and personally commanded her contribution of five ships at the naval battles of Artemisium and Salamis. Eva Green is amazingly beautiful in this as well as Kingdom of Heaven - ok, shes beautiful in anything really, very striking and head turning
I’ve just tested your theory by rubbing butter into my eyes, grinding pepper into them and heated them with a blow torch....and the outcome is yep she still looks amazing after all that. Your fact stands.....science backed !!!.
Those counters and sword strikes between 3:31-3:50 are extremely realistic if you ask me...even tho the blood is pretty over the top. Especially dropping your shield on an angle with your shield rim when the guy with the spear goes for a high thrust he prob shattered his pelvis because of his forwards momentum with the spear. And he constantly has his shield up at his blind side....also when he swings in an arc and glances behind him to see the guy with the spear coming up behind him. Aswell when he knocks the guy with the shield and he trys to get up but slips in the mud is also very realistic...the attention to detail in this scene is unreal...Troy and Gladiator are probably the only other two moves I saw realistic usage of a sword and shield.
The Cersiefication of Queen Gorgo is amazing. She's alot more like Cersie poking fun at Themistocles with her Spartan wit.Lena brought her Mama (Judge Dredd) and Cersie Characters together.
Tom Cruise... broke his ankle recently jumping from building to building.. Mission Impossible 3 or something like that... now that is some badass s*** right there... that guy right there is earning his paycheck...
In real life she didn't die at the end of this battle like in the movie but not long after this battle she vanishes from the history record no one know when she died where she died or where she was laid to rest.
I don't see the resemblance but she's cool and idk how you can keep it together sometimes because she cracks me up every time especially when covering her eyes expecting a jump scare, and you looking over quick to see her reaction
So I'm thinking... next time Halloween comes around.... get some kind of strap-on spine... ummm.... Warrior girl... Spike horns... stabbers... and some other makeup... And dress wifey up like an ancient female warrior woman Fleet Admiral ..??? And see if the kids actually have the courage to approach the porch to attempt to get a piece of candy , cuz I'm thinking many of them aren't going to be able to Muster the courage for that....
So imma be the nerd commenting here, historical facts: there was a Greek woman that commanded some Persian ships on behalf of the Persian armada, she did in fact, survived and escaped back to Persia. Xerxes did retreat back to Persia by fear the Greeks could destroy the bridges of Hellespont and block his escape, but part of his army was left behind to continue the invasion of Greece which ultimately failed in the battle of Platea and finally ended the Persian invasion of Greece. She ended up escaping the naval battle but she removed all her Persian attires from her ship and even sank one of her own Persian ships since was being pursued by a Greek ship, but since the Greeks saw her ship sinking a Persian ship they thought she was either an ally or decided to switch sides so they stopped chasing after her. From Xerxes perspective they thought she sunk a Greek ship and not a Persian ship and he claimed she was more of a man than the men dying at the Greeks. At the end no Persian soldier survived the naval attack to call Artemisia a coward and traitor so Xerxes gave a respectable place to live in Persia. I think Xerxes was assassinated years later.
If she sank one of HER OWN five ships to escape, it was a ruthless but rational tactic. History is not clear on this fact, though. She did fool the Greeks, but her ships also looked more like theirs as her colony was of Greek origin.
Well, Xerxes’ army didn’t retreat until they’d burned Athens and the original Parthenon temple. That one was wood. The one there now, made of marble, gets built in celebration of the victory in the Persian war. In the end of 300 the Spartans are shown winning the Battle of Plataea, which did happen, but the Persian force was a remnant of the original invading force.
Gene Hackman in the movie The quick and the dead... no CG... it's real..... quality stuff... Burt Lancaster... in the movie "The Train".... no CG... real... Burt Lancaster... in my opinion one of the finest movie screen actors ever ... did some westerns as well...
I just watched this movie and Eva Green reminded me of Mrs Movies so much I had to go back and see if you’d watched it. I usually only watch reactions to movies I’ve seen so I missed this one.
Actually I take that back... when Gene Hackman gets shot through the chest by Sharon Stone in the "quick and the dead" and the sunshines through the hole ...that's probably CG but most of the movie is not CG...
We have the historical records of both the land and sea portions of the Persian invasion. The land portions make much more sense. 300 Spartans block the Thermopylae pass for 2-3 days. Persians find a way around and that part of the story is done. The sea portions are more confusing. Contrary to what’s shown, the Persians and Greeks had identical ships but the Persians had many more. The records indicate that the Greeks managed to win but we don’t know how or why to this day.
So from what I understand they did use the circle formation which gave the Greeks a speed advantage as we saw in the first naval battle. The other reason the Greeks were winning according to some accounts the Greeks sailed out to fight at dusk meaning the battles weren't long do to lack of sun light. Ultimately when the Spartan led land forces were out flanked the navel retreated back to shore ti evacuate the city. Salamis the Persians didn't send a probing for to see what was there and were surprised on all fronts and were decimated once the navy commanders either left or were or killed so no chain of command.
Themistocles was such a badass that after the war everyone in Greece was jealous of him and they did everything they could to banish him from the country. In the end he went to Persia (along with a few other greats) to live out his life with his former enemies who showed him nothing but respect
5:30 Artemisia is a real historical person and her story is more verified than Leonidas'. She was in fact an admiral of five ships and of Greek ancestry but allied to Persia. No evidence of sex magic ... But she did have Xerxes' unwavering respect and trust. Which she ruthlessly exploited. When escaping in this battle, she used the fact that her ships were of Greek design to fool the Greeks into not pursuing her while smashing through and sinking Persian ships to clear her way. Xerxes, not understanding that she was sinking HIS ships, to get OUT of the line of fire, said to his admirals they needed to be more like her. Cleopatra was also an effective naval commander and if not up against Octavian she likely would have taken the Eastern Roman Empire.
Yeah, and while I love Lena Headey, I would argue Eva Green carried this film. Even in the sex scene, she's both strong and charismatic. I know lots of people are distracted by the 'boobies,' but I feel like Green transcends what could have been a two-dimensional role.
@@Accryleon Oh yes, Green is a very talented actress, and very comfortable and confident being nude. Which I think helps her in scenes like the one's she did in the film. She doesn't make it about the nudity and focuses on the acting. Few people can do that convincingly. I've read interviews she's done that she is actually a very quiet and reclusive person, and doesn't actually like attention or being focused on. You wouldn't think that was possible with how great of an actress she is, and how comfortable she is with her body. She's a very interesting person, and not at all just a beautiful face.
I like "300" a lot more, but I only watched "300: Rise of an Empire" once - had no interest in watching it again, but after watching a few reactions to it, I think I maybe I'd get a lot more into it on subsequent viewings. I'm pretty sure I'd still like "300" more though. I never considered this before, but now I think you might find "Curse of the Golden Flower" interesting.
I grew up watching the Highlander (tv show), Hercules(Kevin Sorbo), and Xena:Warrior Princess so my ancient history (especially Greece) is a lot better than most people's but I guess you two missed out on those shows. From what I remember they were pretty good but a bit too formulaic most of the time. Some of the end of season episodes went a lot harder than I thought they would. There was a lot of over the top fight scenes in it that were pretty goofy. They also had weird episodes pretty often like the ones that take place in present day. Lucy Lawless looks far sexier in a white shirt, blond hair, blue jeans to me then she ever did in her leather armor.
Great reaction as always guys, as for which film I prefer its 300 don't get me wrong Rise of an Empire is enjoyable and Eva Green is amazing as a villain (and to be honest I did not see the similarity between Eva and Mrs Movies but certainly can now), and I agree with you both about favourite female lead it is definitely Lena Headey.
5:45 Artemisia was not a "naval general." She was a Greek queen who committed her navy to the Persians. She was born and raised in Greece and never even met Darius. She may have never directly met Xerxes. People like to romanticize the conflict as Greeks vs Persians but a lot of Greeks threw in with the Persians. She was just one of them.
Don't feel bad about not knowing much of the history. There are still large parts of the US which still think the American Civil War did not start because of slavery lol
You think a Spartan would be a little embarrassed to talk about a free Greece seeing as 3/4 of the population of Sparta at the time consisted of f^^king slaves.
Love Eva Green! A movie I would love u to react to is a kurdish movie called Turtles can fly. Haven't seen anyone react to it and it's truly a great movie.
Cambridge University's objections point to five historical errors in the film: [7] 1) The title of the film is 300: The Rise of an Empire. But there is no indication of the emergence of any specific empire. If we mean the Athenian Empire, it was formed at least two years after the events of the film and in the naval battles of Artemisium and Salamis (both in 480 BC). 2) The arrow that is fired at the beginning of the film by the Athenian hero named Themistocles during the marathon battle on the outskirts of Athens in 490 BC and kills Darius the Great, the king of Iran, has no historical truth. Because Darius and his son Xerxes were not present at the battle of Marathon. Without a clear explanation of the marathon battle scene and the defeat of the Iranian army, the film suddenly deals with ten years later and the movement of the Iranian navy to Greece under the command of Artemis (Queen Halicarnassus). The film also shows that the Greeks lost the war and the Iranians won, while neither side was able to win the battle. The courtship between Artemis and Themistocles between the two battles of Artemisium and Salamis is completely fabricated and undocumented. At the Battle of Salamis, the Spartan navy (commanded by Gorgo, widow of Leonidas) did not provide significant assistance to the Greek army under Themistocles by sending a small number of ships, and Greece did not achieve a decisive victory. In this film, the Iranians are shown as savages and giants, which was not the case at all, and in those years, Greece could not defeat Iran. This film was made by the United States to make Iranians look bad, and even Greece had no opinion about it.
You know I was just thinking... sort of cowboy to cowboy kind of a thing... you know what in my opinion is a really nice "movie horse"... that spotted Gray... that Clint Eastwood rides in "High Plains Drifter"... talk about a nice ride...
I was always a big fan of the horse (or horses maybe) that they used in War Horse. I'm a huge fan of thoroughbreds. It's my horse of choice in Red Dead.
@@YouMeTheMovies right... problem with that... is a lot of War Horse is CG... much of the horse is CG... High Plains Drifter goes back to my baby boom days... that horse was real... not imitation... I have the movie War Horse on DVD... I watch it occasionally.... I like it ....I like parts about it... but I keep in mind that is not genuine.... Clint Eastwoods work during his "Hay Day" ... that's real that's genuine... he did that physically... on that horse... there is no CG...
Artemisia is a title of the Queen of Halicarnassus, capital of the Carian people of Asia Minor. The Spartans weren't the only Greeks. The Spartans invented the Army ... Athens invented the Navy. Athenians went to the gymnasium too. But it took the Romans to invent the Marines!