FIRST TIME WATCHING | Alien: Covenant (2017) | Movie Reaction | David is a Psycho 

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they idea i think what Ridly is trying to tell is creator creates man, man kill God man creates David ,David kills man .

Yeah, there are less movies about creating colonies than some lame plot about criminals killing people on a colony or some random monsters killing colonists. The only thing I can think of is the TV series Earth 2 but that had a bunch of weird creepy aliens and in-fighting for basic supplies. Star Trek had a bunch of episodes that had the crew visiting colonies on other worlds but they always went into weird plots pretty much. Pandorum is a creepy horror film as well.

Y'all should react to the newer Lost in Space series. It is exactly what the Ms. wants.

MAKE HIM BLEED HIS BLOOD MILK! -JC

She was quite dumb thinking they'd have any interest in answering her theological questions. She wasn't smart enough to figure out that humans were just _raw material_ for their bioweapon.

Technically, these are more like Engineer offshoots. Compare them to the ones in Prometheus, and the ones that showed up here look more primitive and… “human” compared to the near perfect beings from Prometheus; conclusion could be made that this was a Engineer colony world.

They are not Engineer's. They are one of creation like Us.

well i think i know why the engineers wanted to end the human race, search "ice cream so good" and u'll know too,they probably saw in advance

"Engineers" = plural, "Engineer's" = possessive. What they found here was another species the Engineers created, more similar to themselves. They have slightly different physical features.

Even the deleted scene called David's workshop shows what he mixed with the black goo to give the creature's new enhancements, plus shows the original face hugger egg that gave David his idea

Wait there’s a novelization?

Alec Acquino, by that logic you're excluding HUGE amounts of additional materials to all twelve Alien/Predator films. Engineers created Xenomorphs. Period.

@@thedeepfriar745 Yep.

Won't lie, I preferred the old stuff where they were a natural organism and it's implied their acid blood is meant to discourage predation on whatever hell world they originated on.

Seriously, I don't know what else would qualify for third best. This one really does if for me. David is a great character.

Nah, alien 3 was a great send off for Ripley.

@@earlmcraw5606 But a pretty terrible send-off for Hicks and Newt. I think that film would've been so much more warmly received if the ship had just ejected Ripley, and Hicks and Newt had just sailed on blissfully unaware.

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks it wAs heartbreaking but it added to the atmosphere of tragedy.

Honestly for me it goes: Alien, Aliens, Prometheus

Ohhhh Event Horizon. I’m putting that on our list for sure.

She says "no scary part" and you mention Pandorum? LOL

@@JeshuaSquirrel nah event horizon is a nightmare, like a trauma to a 10 year old once upon a time, based on a true story from me, scary af 😂

@@INDAMOMENTFilms Event Horizon has some great horror moments, too.

@@JeshuaSquirrel Event Horizon is gory, but it's so predictable. I saw it in the cinema and the ending was obvious way too early on.

Haha. Sorry!

It doesn't help that they're stupid, but yeah obviously there's way more good than bad.

@@ravissary79 most of the movie's "bad parts" is bad cutting from studio, answers hidden in the script and some in the blu-ray parts) all this stupid crew in Prometheus and Covenant isnt a coincedence)

@@tyler_dtm I wouldn't mind seeing a fleshed out explanation other than "its a horror movie, so they don't realize the cost of their incidental stupidity" type reasoning.

@@ravissary79 nope) Prometheus crew was sabbotaged by Vickers, crew of dumbasses was prepared by her for fail Prometheus mission, Vickers wants her father Peter Wayland die, there is a long story of relations between them. Covenant crew was orginized by Wayland company, you may find this cutted episode of group checking of emotional problems and fear, this was not a colonisation mission, company knows about David and they want his "creations" (this episod with David also in RU-vid) and they send him meat to work with, sheeps for the wolf. Captain Franko death was'nt random too) google Blu-ray episodes if you don't belive me) or find the script, it has all the answers)

I love the story in this but i feel like Guy in "Galaxy Quest" in a few scenes, just like "YOU DON'T JUST OPEN THE DOOR ON AN ALIEN PLANET!" The Alien franchise is just a Wayland-Yutani safety film series. "this is why quarantine procedures are important" "this is why you read the expert's mission briefing" "this is why you wear your helmet on an unexplored world"

At least 30 minutes

I would not have wanted another hour of this film.

@@SeanTube2099 Would you have liked another hour of Prometheus, instead?

@@liamroberts1458 both Prometheus and Covenant were disappointing. I’d take another hour of Alien or Aliens.

She's alive

@@Tenchi707she was cloned

I think we will get to them eventually. Maybe before the new TV show premieres. She’s a little alien-ed out right now haha

@@YouMeTheMovies 😁👽

@@YouMeTheMovies She will hate Alien 3 within the first ten minutes and we all know why.

@Ricardo Alonso Rojas 3 is decent but 4 is just ridiculous

Good point, but you mention slaves overthrowing the masters, but don't mention _Bladerunner_ ? not quite AI, but replicants were resentful of being slaves, like any sentient being would be.

I first watched that while eating fried chicken with my mate. Biggest mistake of our lives. 😂

@@mastery7901 "I kick arse for the Lord!"

@@mastery7901 That movie totally ruined my appetite for dessert for years haha.

I think the issue is that few people realize that Ridley Scott has outright stated that the "David" movies are an alternate universe timeline. Thus, it can deviate off to not even loop around to the fist movie, if he wants. Personally, I think it's good that he took that route, so that he's not retconning the entire expanded universe that grew up around his initial creation. He's simply adding to it with different branch.

@@vladyvhv9579 honestly saying something is in an alternate universe is just lame

everyone wants answers bro tf u on about 😭

people asked the question so he gave the answers, you didn’t want the answers and that’s okay but a lot of people did

@@ragthegamerlike people have been asking questions since 79 lmfao

No, they’re colonists. Scott discusses it in the extras.

A graphic and sound effect from Alien made it onto Blade Runner. Nice when the industry keeps little traditions going like that.

same even if he's the producer it's Disney's decision. Because we have a tv show on FX and a different film than his coming around the same time. Even if this is sold to another company we may never see this third film unless both the tv show and separate film do well.

That's on our list to tackle someday.

@@YouMeTheMovies It's a great series, IMO.

That doesn't sound credible though. Ripley is not a soldier, and she does _not_ want to mess with these things. Why after missing most of her daughter Amy's life, would she then head off into space and risk missing a normal life with Newt?

@@jimbobeire her daughter was already dead at this point remember?. She was told at the start of Aliens. Also Newt by this point would have grown up according to the script and Hicks would be with Ripley and Newt training them as soldiers. Hicks already trained up Ripley as a soldier in Aliens. Also Niell Blomkamps Alien 5 was going to happen, it just didn't get pushed forward. It's a simple Google search away. Just type in Neill Blomkamp Alien 5. Also MrH Reviews, here on RU-vid has shown some of the concept art for that movie, so it was actually in development, but got shut down because Ridley Scott wanted to do his prequel movies instead. Try researching a little before hand. Seems like you have never seen an Alien film in your life. I suggest you revisit these movies and look more in depth with them cause I shouldn't have to explain this. P.s. type in alien 5 concept art in Google and you'll see Ripleys alien suit.

@@abrimfulofasha Yes, I remember her being told her daughter was dead in her 60's. Ripley was supposed to be back for Amy's 11th birthday, so as I wrote... she missed most of Amy's life. Seems like you jump to conclusions by not understanding what other people are writing. Try working on that. I've seen the concept art. I've worked on three movies. I know the difference between development and what makes it to production. Like I said, I don't think they could have made a credible script that fits with the character established in the first two movies. It might have made money, but it would probably have been taking the character doing the comic book route just like Alien Resurrection did.

@@jimbobeire MrH Reviews just released a video about the plot, which is convenient. Haven't watched it yet myself, but I suppose we now have our answer. And yes I meant development, I got a little mixed up. I really think it would have been a decent movie and as a fan of many Alien fans, I share the same thought of wanting Newt and Hicks to stay alive, inwhich Blomkamp wanted to do. He's a visionary in my eyes and would have made it work. Can't wait for his first pure horror he's bringing out in August called Demonic. So, what films have you worked on?

@@jimbobeire just watched the video and the story fits quite well. Seems like they wanted to expand upon the xenomorph methos and create different variants of them. Either way, the movie sounded great and refreshing. And how can say they'd go the comic book route like resurrection, even though blomkamp had already stated that he wanted to get away from all of that? Doesn't make sense dude. He wants to be true to the characters established in the first two movies, why on earth do you think he wants to retcon Alien 3 and Resurrection? He wants to deter away from that garbage and stay true the source material, whilst throwing some of his own ideas in.

You're right, they definitely knew, and picked an expendable crew to check it out. How they knew is never disclosed. I hope they don't just milk it for a lazy ending. It deserves an interesting conclusion. I thought Prometheus was setting one up, but Covenant just ran to the safety of a mediocre space slasher adding little new to the story.

i like Prometheus too, now you can be shocked again

I like Ridley Scott's films.

Actually, the franchise began to sway since Cameron's, Scott's original plan was different from what happened in Aliens (1986). But since Cameron's one was entertaining, people didn't really care about the original plan any longer (what a shame). I still want them to finish this trilogy. I love Scott's directing style.

Prometheus and Covenant despite not sticking the landing are way more interesting and complex than Alien & Aliens

@@itsjinxnow4814 they are cool movies for sure but Alien and Aliens are way better

No cuz they scan the planet

There's no Igor in Shelley's novel.

@@blipbobeep8345 True, he's from the movies.

David's protomorphs vs the engineer's biomechanical xenomorphs

I think the theory is the Nostromo crew were wrong in their observation of the Engineer and mistook their space suit as their skin. I think their suit is organic or grown or something and might resemble something fossilized. Also, they weren’t really scientists. Just freighters. Ash the “science officer” never even examined it.

It still bugs me that the Space Jockey from Alien was clearly much larger than the Engineers depicted in Prometheus. The one in Alien appeared to be at least 12 feet tall. Then in Covenant when the Engineer people are gathered below, they look different still. I think the most likely explanation is that they have consciously developed themselves into different castes through genetic engineering. Well maybe that's the second most likely explanation. The first most likely is lazy continuity.

I think the flashback of David wiping out the Engineers shows there were different castes and different sizes of them. Like the ones from Prometheus are bred for war and are bigger and higher muscle mass and the one from Alien could have been a big time General or something.

With David having been the creator of the facehugger eggs the question is why would a space jockey have a ship full of em unless the fossilized one from the first movie is really just a space jockey suit with a dead David or human character inside from events we haven't seen yet

@@warevampire66692 The Mrs. and I were talking about this today in the car. There were obviously other wishbone ships at the Engineers city. They seemed to be welcoming David home at first until he dropped the payload. In the 10 years he was there working his gene-splicing magic he could have eventually filled a couple of the ships with eggs and sent them on crash courses around the universe. But that still leaves the question of the Space Jockey. Or maybe another Engineer warship arrived during that 10 years, after David had created the eggs and he planted eggs on his ship while the Engineer explored David's destruction before deciding to leave in a hurry, later finding the eggs himself and having his moment. Or an engineer found the eggs and put them on his ship after David left with the Covenant. Lots a fan-fiction ideas to be had. Haha

Such an interesting take on the origin. One I definitely didn't even consider. Thank you for the mind blowing addition to this origin story.

@@MrsMovies Scott is known for throwing in red herrings though. There's nothing on screen to back up the notion of Jesus the Engineer, nor of them wanting to wipe us out. That last one is one of Shaw's assumptions, much like the assumption that the cave paintings were invitations for later humans to find, rather than a depiction of tribal humans. If you rewatch Prometheus, I'd suggest keeping these themes in mind, slavery, abduction, dodgy experiments to make and control lifeforms, and the long standing theme of the Xeno as a bioweapon. The whole Greek myth of Prometheus is a bit of a red herring. It may be how Weyland sees himself, as a 'modern prometheus' but you go google 'Modern Prometheus' and you'll quickly discover that Mary Shelley's 1818 horror story 'Frankenstein' has the full title "Frankenstein : The Modern Prometheus' . Weyland made David. Shaw even has a scene where she tries to reanimate a dead head using a jolt of electricity into thinking ' it's alive ' . And in Covenant, David is full on mad scientist. Another link to Mary Shelley is that the same month her 'Frankenstein' novel was published, her husband Percy Bysshe Shelley had his poem "Ozymandias" published. That's the poem David quotes in _Covenant_ but misattributes to Byron instead, and Walter corrects him. The abudction, rather than invitation is also there, unmentioned. Look at the cave drawings, and also the dates of them. Sure 35000 years ago we were _all_ tribal . But look at the later cave paintings the most recent one was Hawai'i in the 7th century. Those visits continued to isolated tribes long after other places had cities, writing, etc. So, if it's a benevolent race just popping down to say hi, why visit isolated tribes... who happen to offer human sacrifice as 'tribute' to their sky gods? That crude drawing was a depiction of something the tribe _witnessed_ . Also, the map? It's from a UFO abduction story from the 1950s. Betty and Barney Hill claim to have been taken to Zeta Reticuli. That's the system where the Nostromo first encounters the Xeno in the original _Alien_ movie. The next dot over in that map is the star Gliese 81, which is 34.5 light years from Earth, and that matches the distance given in Prometheus to LV 223. So putting that together, and the fact that the long tunnel from the urn chamber connects with the ship at the _cargo_ bay, rather than the bridge, should give you an idea of whether or not those ships were coming back empty or not. Also, you saw that Engineer had no problem running across the surface of LV 223 without a helmet, so why the super clean air in the dome? That's to stop the tribal human cargo from passing out and dying before they get to stand in front of an urn and stare at/ pray to the giant stone head while the black liquid oozes onto their bare feet. What happened to Fifield is a big clue as to the purpose of that place, he was not yet fully mutated, but his attack was exactly the type of frenzied athletic attack that a lone Xeno would have made (minus the acid, tail and second set of jaws) . He was even killed off the way Ripley would have done it. Remember how she drove over a Xeno with the APC in _Aliens_ ? That plus the giant Xeno skull on the dome, the Xeno carved on the wall, and the depiction of a humanoid mutating on the ceiling (like H.R. Giger reimagined the Sistene Chapel ceiling 'creation of Adam' ) . The horror of Prometheus is that, without telling you, it shows you that humans are _raw material_ for this monster. It doesn't have a home planet because it's always been a tailor made bioweapon. Nothing that nasty would survive long as a species because it multiplies too fast, kills everything around it, and runs out of food. Add to that is the horror, that Shaw (for religious reasons, and wanting to believe she can be reunited with her dead parents) and Weyland (desperate to grasp at straws to cheat death) refuse to see what they've stumbled onto because they 'choose to believe' an entirely different scenario. Shaw finds a 100% DNA match with the 'Engineer' and makes an unsupported conclusion that it is proof that 'they' created 'us' rather than the logical conslusion ... this thing _is_ human. That DNA match could also be explained by these things being a slave caste bred from abducted humans, altered to be bigger, stronger, less individual looking, and incorporating biomechanical implants to interface with ship technology and also tolerate much more toxic air than normal humans. They work in a dangerous lab on a desolate moon... occasionally visiting Earth to fetch more bodies. They are basically _Igor_ , doing the work, then sleeping until their master wakes them for the next mission. I was hoping _Covenant_ would reveal who their master is, but their _master_ might be long dead for all we know. So, if you think any of that makes sense.... then Shaw, at the end of Prometheus, is still convinced that she should go 'talk to the manager' to have her theological questions answered.... when it's more likely these things were kidnappers, DNA tampering, warmongering slavemasters who have no interest in Shaw's questions. Shaw cannot contemplate humans as being anything other than central to the plot, either as the product of a benevolent god (Garden of Eden), or as the target of its wrath (Armageddon). The idea that in a cold, indifferent universe, something could be picking off tribes of humans as nothing more than raw material... that just conflicts with everything that she 'chooses to believe'.

I guess I should re-iterate that none of these films come close to 1 and 2. Prometheus has really cool world building though that deserves credit.

I love Covenant just because the Fassbender on Fassbender stuff is so good. Those scenes alone made the movie for me. But that's the great thing about an awesome Franchise like Alien, there's absolutely something for everyone :)

@@YouMeTheMovies I did like the concept of how quickly things can turn bad on a planet that resembles Earth. If we landed on one of those distant Earth-like planets like we were arriving at summer camp then we'd probably all meet the same fate without even having to run into xenomorphs etc. They really needed a Ripley to get their butts in gear in that film. haha

Yeah I really didn’t like that they killed off Shaw and I was hoping for an engineer Homeworld story with her as the prequel Ripley. I will admit though I like the Neomorphs. To me it felt like a new breed that I genuienly wasn’t expecting because all the promotions I saw were laced with the Xenomorph and at that point I’d seen it so many times and I sort of got tired of seeing it after a while, like the T. rex and raptors from Jurassic park when they rehash the same major threat too many times too quickly. I thought the Neos were a nice introduction to more of the alien and prequel lore. But that’s sort of really the only thing I personally enjoyed from covenant. Plus I feel they put the main character in too much stress too early in the beginning over the captain’s death enough to make her reactions to the other events less shocked than other chatacters. I dunno she just sort of didn’t feel like she was actually terrified of the situations until the ending.

Ill do the fingering lol

Probably.

1) Special Custom Made haha 2) I don’t see the resemblance haha

Yeah. That’s a joke. 😂

@@YouMeTheMovies thank goodness... I'm listening while I'm working and I've only watched a few of your videos so I wasn't certain. And the camera didn't show your reaction to what she said so I was like "hold up" lol

I would go with this especially since an Alien skull is seen as a trophy in the eighties Predator 2 movie.

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@proudofyourroots9575 I was going to say the same thing. There is too much information in an organisms genome for a human to map it alone. This is done by powerful computers. Advancements in AI will create breakthroughs in genetic engineering. There is simply no other way to do this. That's why in Jurassic park it was unrealistic for them to have the computing power back in the 90s to repair DNA that has degraded for 65 million years or more. We still don't have the computing power to do that.