FIRST TIME WATCHING: Troy...Hector the TRUE HERO 

There was a great story surrounding the fight between Hector and Achilles. They didn’t use stunt doubles, Eric Bana and Brad Pitt did the whole thing themselves and they had an agreement. If they hit each other by accident they’d pay each other money, $50 dollars for a light hit $100 for a heavy hit. By the end of it Pitt had paid out $750 dollars while Bana didn’t lose a cent.

"Paris is just being stupid." Pretty much sums up the entire Iliad right there tbh.

I miss this genre of movies, their worlds and their aesthetics. We really need movies like LOTR, Troy etc etc with all sci-fi movies streaming nowadays.

I like how this is described as a medieval movie, like these are ancient-ancient greeks, there's a few thousand years between then and the medieval age, this is a sword and sandal movie

36:00 My first name is Hector. Thanks to this movie my college years were full of people screaming my name in the most random and akward situations, Aquiles style, lol. Freaking Brad Pitt.

Hector was a far better brother than Paris and a better son than Priam ever deserved. Achilles is a flawed but legendary character.

When we're in our early 20's and teenage years, we men strive to be like Achilles. Only through time and wisdom do we realize we should be more like Hector.

I know everyone talks about Brad Pitt in this movie but this is where my massive crush on Eric Bana begun. It’ll always be Hector for me! 🤩

6:10 - Hector should have tied Paris up, and gagged him. Then go back to Sparta and drop off Helen on the shore and go back home. There wouldn't be enough reason for the war.

One of my closest friends is named Hector. Whenever we're going to meet up somewhere I'll purposely park way too far away just so I can walk around yelling, "Hectoooooor!!!!"

Yes a proper burial was huge, without the coins on the eyes they couldn't pay the ferryman and would be trapped on the wrong side of the river Styx. (which is the river that Achilles's mother dipped him in to make him immortal above the ankles.)

"Imagine if the horse was too big for the gate." If memory serves; in the Iliad they actually did. The wooden horse was too big to fit through Troja's gate, so the Trojans in their eagerness of 'victory' actually tore down parts of the fortifications to get it inside - which of course only made it easier for the Greeks to storm the city. Not sure if that was part of Odysseus plan, but with him you can't rule it out, either.

Hector was always the real hero! One of the greats!

A classic movie that was, and still is, being talked about. Hell, even my history teacher told us to watch this movie for an upcoming quiz.

Brad Pitt packed on 30 lbs of muscle to play the intimidating Achilles. Despite it's historical inaccuracies, it's still pretty impressive.

You guys, are the best reactors there, purely because of how much of a context you understant, there's no value in just looking at someone open their mouth in awe, the true connection build with people who understand the meaning of things and notice detail, loved your LotR and Gladiator reactions.

This is one of the rare movies where Sean Bean doesn’t die. By the way, the weird bird signs guy was King Arthur in Excalibur.

Hector (Greek: Ἕκτωρ, Hektōr) was a Trojan prince of Greek origin , son of King Priam and Queen Hecuba, grandson of Laomedon,descendant of the Arcadian dynasty of King Dardanus,who founded the colony Dardania, allied city with Troy. The name Hektor is derived from the Greek ékhein, meaning "to have", "to hold".

This is one of those not so perfect movies but has been one of my favorites for awhile....just the epic story, great action, and those amazing one-liners by Brad Pitt....."Imagine a king who fights his own battles", "I want what every man wants, more", and that whole discussion with him and Prium when he snuck in. So many memorable moments

Achilles is a King as well of the Myrmadons. That's why he can bark back at Agamemnon now Agamemnon is the King of Kings persay but Achilles is a lesser king like Odysseys

I LOVE Priam and his gentleness but him tolerating Paris literally stealing Helen is just…not…..

20:29 - RIP Peter O'Toole - one of the best actors of century. How adorably gorgeous he was when he was young, his eyes were amazing color and shining! If you ever want to see one of his movies, try "How to Steal a Million" - it's a romantic comedy.

Achilles’ second in command is the spartan father from 300. These movies came out very close together within a few years of each other so the hot, ripped actors overlapped. Which is lucky for all the ladies out there. Haha

I love how they made some of the silly stuff believable. The reason why they trusted bringing the Trojan Horse in. Instead of Achilles having the one weak spot being his heel, it shows him get shot many times, but his heel was the only arrow he didn't pull out so the legend of the "Achilles heel" is painted as a misunderstanding of what happened. Pretty cool.

The second part of The Sean Bean Curse: if Sean Bean does not die, then the MC receives the Boromir treatment.

Hector is the MVP! Also this is one of the only movies I can recall where technically it ends with the 'bad' guys 'winning', even if people do escape! awesome video as usual!

Hector is the only one with common sense. Priam is a good person with good hearth but he does terrible mistakes as a king during the war. Not sending back Helen as soon as he saw her with his son for example. Probably Achilles and other greek heroes would never joined for the war in that case, specially Achilles and his sense of glory but glory in a good way, not with dishonor as you said in your reaction.

Loved the reaction!! On the calling them heroes issue: the word has a different meaning today than it did back then. In greek it meant protector or defender. So when we speak of Archilles as a hero, we should see it as it was in ancient times when the epic was written. Also yes, Helen and Menelaos do return to Sparta together. Agamemnon does not die in Troy, but is killed by his wife Clytemnestra (Helen's half-sister) in order to avenge Agamemnon killing their daugther in order to get to Troy.

29:46 James is right. Achilles and Briseis didn't really have a romance like that. She was a spoil of war given to Achilles and while his falling out with Agamemnon did happen because he took her back from him, Achilles took such offense not because he deeply cared for Briseis but because withdrawing a spoil of war after it has been given to a warrior is seen as an insult and humiliating (and Achilles is pretty big on his honor and such, so he of all people took it extra hard). Achilles does have a canonical romantic relationship in the Iliad, but it's with Patroclus- who no, is not supposed to be his "cousin". Hollywood just pulled a "no homo" and did the classic "oh these two characters of the same sex are so close because they are family actually". I love the original text and these kinds of departures- like completely writing the gods out of the story when they were such a central part of it plot-wise and thematically, as well as perpetuating the idea that Helen consensually went with Paris and is therefore equally culpable with her abductor for the bloodshed- along with some poor casting decisions in my opinion, piss me off far more than they should. No matter how well-made this movie is and the few things it got right, I will always see it as less interesting fan-fiction of the original story. It's a good movie, but a bad adaptation of the Iliad. EDIT: and OMG don't get me started on the writers giving Paris a heroic moment in the end and a bow just because Orlando Bloom and Legolas and shit. Paris is meant to be a spineless coward, let him be a spineless coward! He doesn't need a redemption arc! He isn't meant to be a hero! That's the whole point!

The amount of Legolas jokes I make literally every single time I watch this movie is ridiculous

According to legend the Man Named Aeneas at the end sailed around greece and settled in Modern Day Italy His descendants would eventually become known as Romulus and Remus who are the founders of Rome So technically Romans are the descendants of Trojans

Long but bear with me. I LOVE this film. It's my guilty favorite. The Iliad itself is a tale of brutality and futility of war. Highlighting the "glory" we love to see and hear as well as the "reality" of war and loss. Does this movie follow the epic? No. Is it still amazing? Absolutely! When I saw this growing up I thought Achilles amazing his goal for immortality was something to aspire to. In a way it still is. But now that I'm older and wiser I see that Hector is the true hero and champion. Unlike the legendary warrior Achilles, Hector was a man. A good man. A legend not because we wanted to be and he never saw to put himself on a pedestal... But he was placed there by all the people who respected and loved him. He was a good leader who cared for the people around him and his people. He was a loving father, a good son, a good brother and friend, devoted husband, respected leader, dutiful citizen, compassionate commander, and honorable yet humble man. He is THE person we aspire to be. While Achilles is a great warrior Hector is a true hero. Sadly, heroes are not protected and he faced his death with honor that even earned to respect of his killer. Good guy Hector. Be like Hector.

I found it very interesting what Nick said about watching the movie at different ages and having different perceptions. I imagine when we watch it as kids, we like Achilles better because he's the best fighter. I think after a certain age, we prefer Hector because he fights for the right reasons. Today, I think it's wise of Helen when she tells Paris she doesn't want a warrior. She says this because she wants a life of peace. (English is not my first language, so sorry if there's anything weird kkkkkk)

Ironically enough, brad pitt did rupture his achilles while filming the role of Achilles, it delayed the filming of the movie's final scene by 10 months.

49:57 - You notice how they deliberately prolonged showing him in paralyzing pain? This is where the origin of "Achilles Heel" came from when referencing a vulnerability.

"Could you imagine if Hector was less honorable? Archers, everyone!" Pretty sure Achilles would just dodge all the arrows to show off😂

This movie is *very* far from being 'Illiad' accurate but that didn't stop me from watching it over and over again as a child lol. Here's hoping for a more accurate remake someday where Achilles and Patroclus aren't "cousins"

If you haven't already, you guys should watch The man in the Iron mask. Another amazing movie!

Btw the wall is a mix of practical set and cg, the DVD has behind the scenes making of shows how much work they put into it, reason why the movie still looks so good over a decade later

In watching his performance as Hector, you’d never guess that Eric Bana is a well loved comedian here in Australia. Been a fan of his since the 90’s. Extremely underused in film.

the 80s and 90s were the most creative for cinema. vote for more movies from those times.

This movie can be watched 100 times and it will never be any less amazing

I honestly would've preferred if they included the mother of Hector and Paris and Cassandra instead of the Briseides love story stuff. They could've kept her too, but the others were far more interesting and deeper characters. Rose Byrne could've played Cassandra who was the actual priestess of Apollo and cousin of the princes of Troy, the one who could foresee the future but was cursed.

Agamemnon's brother's actor is Mad Eye Moody btw😁

I love the greek mythology behind this War. I understand why they did not portray that much of it in this movie. But it gives an extra dimension to it. Also this is the start of the famous tales of Odysseus about his journey to get home.

It's one of my favorite movies ! Honestly, I prefer the music of the Theatrical Cut, and I don't understand why they changed it in the Director's Cut. In my opinion, the music of James Horner (RIP) was so perfect in the Theatrical Cut ! That's why I think the Theatrical Cut is better than the Director's Cut.

Hector was the best character in this movie ngl.

Thanks for the reaction! I've loved this movie since I was 12. Had a huge crush on Patroclus back then lmao. Nowadays I definitely prefer Hector.

You’re legit watching all the films that I’ll watch with my class in the upcoming school year, and that’s totally okay 😆👏

Amazing movie!! For a long time this movie was considered a flop because of the huge cost of making vs the money it generated. Glad people are finally coming around

Love, hate, selfishness, selflessness, bravery, cowardice, greed, generosity, loyalty, betrayal, pleasure, suffering etc. ... Universal themes that every human throughout history recognize... All part of the human experience... Thankfully... we have made things better for more people overall.

The Patriot with Mel Gibson is also a great movie.

the fight between them is as timeless as the best moments in gladiator. a good time for movies.

Sean Bean does not die in this movie. Also, due to Brad being injured during the filming, they had to come back six months after the rest was filmed, rebuild the set, and shoot the Brad/Eric fight scene.

The greatest achievement of this movie is that Sean Bean didn't die!

Just fyi, the Medieval period took place between 500-1500 AD, the Trojan War took place sometime between 1260-1180 BC. For context, we are currently closer in time to the beginning of the Medieval period (1500 years ago) than the people alive during the Trojan War were, the Medieval period would have been about 1700 years in the future for them.

You should do “13th Warrior”. It’s a great old movie. Very cool. Again, one of the many not-historically accurate movies as far as i can tell but it’s awesome.

Troy was an absolutely awesome historical epic film, but it wasn't the only one to come out in 2004. There was another one that tried to do the same thing as Troy: Portray a central piece of human mythology as historical events that may have actually happened. But this film I honestly feel achieved that objective even BETTER than Troy did. The film in question is Jerry Bruckheimer's King Arthur, starring Clive Owen and Kiera Knightley. I sincerely hope you guys at White Noise Reacts will react to this film, because so far, I cannot find ANYONE who has done a reaction to that film. And that really should not be the case, because it really is one of the greatest on-screen adaptations of Arthurian Legend ever created (this is from someone who literally grew up with Arthurian mythology. I was introduced to it at age 3, and I've seen nearly every film adaptation of the story of King Arthur that has ever been made).

" a face that could launch a thousand ships" - Helen of Troy

This movie is like aquilles! It is still being talked about! A classic!

"If they ever tell my story, let them say I walked with giants. Men rise and fall like the winter wheat, but these names will never die. Let them say I lived in the time of Hector tamer of horses. Let them say, I lived in the time of Achilles." - Odysseus

The funny thing is that according to the legends Achilles and Odysseus weren't that eager to go to war. Achilles was hiding in a girl school disguised as a girl and Odysseus acted as if he had gone insane.

The Iliad,written by Homer is about the futility of war.That was the message Homer was trying to convey when he wrote it. Ask yourself,who really won this war.Troy destroed,the Greeks destroyed yrs later when the Dorians and the Sea Peoples destroyed most of the main Greek city states,incl the Mycaeneans,the Hittite empire was affected and on the verge of collapse.The only civilisation to survive intact was Egypt,and they made it by the skin of their teeth. That's what made the Trojan War so interesting.

...films like this are always a good reaction choice!...waiting on you guys to see "Last Samurai"...someday perhaps...

The Actor playing Priam is Peter O'Toole .... See "Lawrence of Arabia" . "Becket" , 'The Lion in Winter" "Goodbye Mister Chips" ......

That big guy also plays sabatooth from the first X-men movie

It is true,beauty can befall any man,then add love,he will never be the same.

This is nostalgic

The score was done by James Horner who did Braveheart and I think Apocalypto too!

And now we need one of my all time favourite movies based on Odyssey - O Brother where Art Thou.

Sean Bean could still do an Odyssey sequel to thus. The Odyssey takes place over the course of 20 years and Troy came out less than 20 yrs ago. He could do the ending of the movie, coming home to Ithaca with flashbacks to his earlier adventures with the sirens, cyclops, etc.

This might be the only time I say I prefer the theatrical cut of a film. The shots they included in the extended edition don't add anything. And the original score was so much more exciting and evocative. If you get time, check out the Hector V Achilles scene from the theatrical version, you'll feel the difference.

47:39 Eneas!! Of course!! I never caught on to that detail when I watched this as a kid!!

Yay !! My daughter was named after Briseis ! It’s a shame some people look at me funny when I tell them 🤨🧐

Couple cool facts which may have been stated: 1) Patroclus May have been Achilles cousin/brother but most believe he was Achilles lover. 2) after Achilles killed hector he dragged his body around the city for 2 weeks shouting about how he killed him and how all the gods see hector for a coward 3) the coins on the eyes are for the boat man which in Ancient Greece it was the boat man who would bring you to the underworld to be judged if you didn’t have money you’d wander aimlessly. 4) it was said 2 boys who’s survived the fall of Troy would get into a boat and land in Italy, there they created a town called Rome. 5) Odysseus was said to be the son of Athena, and she gave him the idea for the horse. Poseidon being the creator of the horse took offense to this and caused his ship to go awry on his way home thus beginning the odyssey.

Dianne Kruger is and always will be the definition of perfect

The extended edition really bugs me ngl, music cue is all wrong. Especially hector vs Achilles fight, the original drums were soooo much better, it’s just all so out of place

IS THERE NO ONE ELSE??

Sorry, one quick comment. I know in the future Helen and Paris have at least 2 boys and they all die when a burning building's roof collapses on them. I also know that Helen dies by being hanged by the wife of a man who was either a powerful lord or a soldier who died because of the Trojan war which never had to take place.

Homer tells us that Paris kidnapped Helen, it is not a love story as the movie portraits, also thst wasn't Aquiles cousin 👀

Hard to believe Brad Pitt was 40 when this was filmed; Eric Bana was 35.

Bronze age not medieval! That's a difference of 2000 years!

Between LotR, 300, Troy, GoT there's a common pool of actors that keep rotating in this History/Fantasy circle. Besides the main cast, you might also have recognized one of the Trojan generals as Jeor Mormont, Lord Commander of the Night Watch.

Taking an enemy as a slave wasn't just a show of dominance, the slaves were a representation of that winners honor, and when you take away those slaves your taking away that mans honor effectively disgracing them, in fact it was said in the Iliad as Achilles was talking to Patroclus he would not relent until Agamemnon returned the stolen honor, referring to Agamemnon having taken precious therefore taken his honor.

Doubtful that Achilles fell in love with Briseis. Historians believe if this battle had any root in reality, Achilles probably was romantic with Patroclus, which is why he demands to fight Hector after Hector killed Patroclus, and why he mistreated Hector's body so badly after killing him.

list: Total Recall (1990), robocop (1987), starship troopers (1997), Green mile (1999). great movies!!!

One of my most favourite movies and I even keep a copy sealed on blu here in Melbourne Australia as a tribute 😊

I love the movie and its absolutely brilliant for armour styles, weapons and the triremes. Couple of inaccuracies that I can look past but a a few get to me. 1. Ajax - Strongest of the Greeks actually commits suicide because he didn't obtain Achilles' armour after his death. He killed a few livestock in his anger and as attonement for this he drove his sword into his neck 2. Agamemnon actually returned to Mycenae only to be killed by his wife, Clytemnestra since he sacrificed their daughter to Artemis so the Greeks could sail to Troy 3. Menelaus never died at Troy and sailed back to Sparta with Helen 4.They left out one of the most important parts of the whole story. Paris was out hunting and was led by Hermes to judge a competition to see who was the most beautiful goddess out of Hera, Aphrodite and Athena. Hera would make him king of all men, Athena offered him victories in war and Aphrodite offered him the most beautiful woman in the world and Paris chose Aphrodite.

Hey!! I love watching your reactions! Can you please add captions on the movies you watch? English is not my first language and at times the audio distortion makes it hard to understand. You are awesome, keep it up!!

I had NO idea there was an extended version! That’s why I keep seeing these vids of the score not being right in some scenes. Achilles Leads the Myrmidons (beach/Apollo’s temple) & Achilles vs Hector both had better scores that went better with the fights than in this extended. Irks me. LOL!

they kinda gave hector a lil bit much credit in the fight with achiolles. . . if i rmember right, i believe hector turned and ran away during the fight and achilles had to chase him around the walls a few times before finally killing him

This screenplay was written by "Game of Thrones" screenwriter David Benioff.

22:12 "Greece is a huge country". I lol'd.

Also, ive never heard anyone mention this, but Achilles mocks Apollo and cuts off his head while holding a bow. And then... yanno.

The 'face that launched' line is from Christopher Marlowe. But it refers to the same event.

Wow, as many times as I've seen this movie, I never realized there was an extended version.

Yes, Yes, Yes.

I remember, back in the day, , reading about Production. ... Before watching the cinema. It was a big deal. They actually build the walls and parts of the city. and if i'm not wrong, they did it twice! First in Malta and then in Mexico, after a terrorist bomb attack

For the pride of a few man, millions have died

This sparta was much before Leonidas time just so you know...approx. 500-700 years before the fight at Thermopylae. Things change in that period of time, considering people only see Spartans as the 300.