First Variation Flatside Winchester 1895 Musket 

You are not. I'd very much like to see a reproduction of this or something similar to it.

44WarmocK77 Henry makes a lever gun with a detachable magazine called the long ranger. But if your talking about 1895 style ones then I 100% agree.

I would like to see Savage 99 brought back. Savage looked into it and determined it could not be economically.

keith moore Like the old IMI Timber wolves?

Browning also makes a lever gun with a detachable magazine called the BLR

That is a very good point which I had not thought about. Thanks!

My grail gun is an AR-15, preferably a variant of the WWSD rifles from inrange. Anyone from where they're legal looking for a husband? :D

Saw how beautiful the rifle was and said forget it.

I always liked the Savage because its so smooth and different looking for a lever action.

lastswordfighter none the Evans repeater is pretty cool too.

There are a good deal of Miroku-made ones from the 90's floating around.

Winchester still makes them, not all of the time, but some years they release a limited number of them in a certain caliber

"Musket" was simply the designation Winchester chose for the long barrel configuration with a full-length stock, duplicating the military pattern.

Bananeisafree I think (if I'm wrong don't blow up internet I'm no pro) that musket was one of the optional barrel length designations. I also think carbine and rifle might have been the two other designations.

Those were the illuminations I was looking for ! Merci beaucoup !

Musket refers to the barrel length. Winchester typically had three barrel lengths; Musket (long) rifle (medium) and carbine (short)

Bananeisafree musket was still in popular usage when referring to military style rifles. In fact until quite recently in the british Army, weapon practice was still referred to as 'musketry' very quaint considering that we are armed with a short bullpup rifle! In this case, it is a description used by the company to infer barrel length.

Yes, two more that I have not published yet.

Wat?

The search function is your friend... :) ru-vid.com/group/PL9e3UCcU00TREsGA9nkvCqFp2e0Ht9u3e

Thanks! I'm just currently into the beginning of American Gun, and just wanted a more in-depth look at the history, you the man Ian.

Henry and Marlin both make modern lever actions, and I'm sure other companies do as well.

Just found out Mossberg 464 spx... Im not big fan of "tactical" look, but damn it look nice

If you don't mind loading from a tube Henry makes the best lever guns today.

I wish henry did side loaders because the top of the tube loading thing is just atrocious. For a historical reproduction model it makes perfect sence, but for a semi modern franken gun why not have the superior loading system?

That why I would love to see modern version of such gun, not only replacement of stock and wooden parts to "tactical" style. We have some new materials and technological processing of metal that give us more precise and rugged parts compared to what we had 100 years ago. I can bet that if someone with experience would sit on it could make totally new mechanisms that probably could even load proper rifle cartridges (eg 7.62) keeping that nice and cool lever action reloading. Its sad that no one experiment with such ideas of old guns meeting new technology/materials(they do but 99% of it are hand made peaces costing fortune). I aso would love to see long rifle-like revolvers with weird caliber(literally rifles that have revolver loading method) :D It would be cartoonish as hell, but it would be such nice collectible peace that would look cool on the wall and you could make fun with it on the range with friends. I know that its not really useful, but 90% of us use guns only in range shooting paper targets with all those super-mega-tactical peaces with ultra-mega addons and scopes that where made for real combat... So why dont just go other way, and make that time spend in range more fun, show people such guns and talk about it.

The extractor. It’s mirror polished and then nitre or fire blued to get that electric blue color. It’s also the least durable form of blueing so to find it nearly completely intact is quite rare on a gun this old. Luger parts went through the same process, but were removed from the salts at an early process and lower temperature to give a bright yellow/gold “strawing”.

Siesta Time I thought it was the 1892?

The 92 used what were originally black powder cartridges, mainly pistol caliber (e.g. .44-40). It could handle smokeless powder pistol cartridges as they became available.

The '94 was designed for smokeless... But, since that was a whole new thing at the time, they couldn't quite get their act together to release it in smokeless on schedule. So, as a placeholder, they introduced it chambered for a couple of black powder target cartridges in 1894, then reintroduced it properly along with the first civilian smokeless rifle cartridge (the .30WCF aka the 30-30) the following year. Winchester designed the '95 with potential military use in mind. Spitzer cartridges weren't yet a major consideration, but relatively fragile tube magazines that altered the weight distribution of the rifle with each shot fired weren't popular with military types. The box magazine also made it easier to accommodate a wide array of cartridges.

Yes, starting in about a week and a half.

Forgotten Weapons cool, I can’t wait to see the videos!

the united stated had a long standing fixation with 30 caliber for the better part of near 100 years

Yes, barrel length and stock configuration.

Huh, interesting. Is there any particular reason to do that on a rifle? It’s not like anyone even still fired rifles in rank anymore, and most other musket-based infantry doctrines had also fallen out of use at that point.

Higher velocity from the cartridge I'm guessing, the same way you find ARs all the way from 24"+ on down to ludicrous stuff like 7".

Personal preference - Winchester offered a wide array of standard and custom configurations, so you could buy whatever you happened to like best.

Mirdarion in many militaries, musket and musketry were still in common usage well into the 20th century. In britain musketry was still used well into the 80s to describe range practice in some regiments.

I dont know if the gun is good or not and i want to know!

How could it play as in 1895 there were no pointed bullets. First were adopted in 1898. I think a major reason was that box magazine was seen as a more modern one. All the rifles adopted in 1890s had box magazines. It also does not change the balance of the rifle.

I have been reading about this from what I can find early on the idea of a musket was a smooth bore weapon. However at later dates the word musket describes longer barreled weapons.

David Maxey I have run across such a flat side 1895 that would fire out of battery because the safety mechanism spring was broken. It had been broken a LONG time but that's something to look for on well worn examples.

Hughes Enterprises thanks for the information. I always wondered how common of an occurrence it was.

Yes, exactly the same; just different names.

Yup, I had an 1895 .30 Takedown model for awhile.

Ok cool. Yeah, i think Russia got some of the "excess" guns that were made. Not sure about caliber, those might have been 06.

Anchor Bait Guns ordered by Russian Empire were made in 7.62x54r

Michal Gebicki ah right. :)

The 8-round magazine was single-stack. The 10 round magazine on the Lee Enfield was double stack.

Just a model name. They are all rifled.

Not shure, the cost for tooling might make them 1500 dollar guns

"Musket" was Winchester's name for the long barrel and full length stock style, because it resembled the old muskets.

I want one in 54r since thats what my country of latvia used in WW1

im actually suprized at how little these go for sometimes

Lore i do

Drunk Not I Am yes, that would BA amazing

Bryan Ak Russia bought a bunch of these in 7.62x54R, basically. I think Ian goes into greater detail in an earlier video on the 1895.

Bryan Ak They probably just can't use the Winchester name without paying them.

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Winchester sold like several hundred thousands of Winchester 1895 for Russian military order, of variety of length so it's probably more likely that it was one of the guns sold by Winchester to Russia than a Russia manufactured one since the gun was not exactly advanced by the time...

Oh, I didn't knew that. Thx for the info. I always thought the Russians made an exact same type

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Huh...That's new

Well... the Russian contract guns _were_ Model 1895s, so...

For all that stuff, see my previous video on the Winchester 1895.