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Five Hand Tools You Don't Need and Why 

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In my decades of woodworking I've been convinced, drunk the Kool-Aide, of tools I absolutely need in order to make quality stuff. Some of those influencers bamboozled me. Could of spent that money on more productive tools. Here are a few of those tools I've spent hard earned money on that I don't use.
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@JOHNSmith-pn6fj
@JOHNSmith-pn6fj Год назад
Excellent lesson on what experience teaches a person. As far chisels go everyone should have a battle chisel in their set of tools. Just a chisel that can be sharpened with a belt sander for those odd abusive needs we all come across from time to time. 3/4 of inch in size is perfect in my opinion.
@scottroy6195
@scottroy6195 Год назад
Haha... I have one. 3/4 inch as well. Good for those "beat the hell out of it" situations.
@AffordBindEquipment
@AffordBindEquipment Год назад
especially for cutting nails that can't be gotten to any other way. Done it many times. I have one just for cleaning glue off of a putty knife.
@johnapppel64
@johnapppel64 Год назад
I've got a 1-inch that I picked up as part of a lot of other tools and was already beat to crap. A few minutes with the grinder to remove the old gnarly edge that looked like almost serrated and I had my beater.
@defenestrated23
@defenestrated23 Год назад
I have a selection of "shit kickers": a thin and thick chisel, a few slotted screwdrivers, pin punches, speed squares, rulers, drill bits. They are basically sacrificial. I beat them up, drill holes in em, use them to persuade metal, whatever the job needs.
@W1ldt1m
@W1ldt1m Год назад
As a rough carpenter I carried a 1" harbor freight chisel in my bags. It's amazing how often you use one.
@Daxxii1966
@Daxxii1966 Год назад
“I drank the KoolAid” & “Books out the Wazoo” - hilarious delivery with great content - thank you will definitely be watching more - new subscriber
@melissasilver4014
@melissasilver4014 Год назад
I really appreciate that you are not afraid to be yourself and not afraid how that might affect your audience. You speak from the heart and are just honest with people. You're not telling people not to buy them, just simply explaining that, from your point of view, you don't believe that these tools are worth it. And if people try to work around things before buying this new tool they're told they need, then they might not have to buy a tool that is gonna end up collecting dust somewhere in the shop. General rule of thumb I was taught, is not to buy a tool until you need it. And Even at that, you might only need it once or twice....yet that general rule of thumb didn't account for that! Yet again another great video Shawn. Thank you for sharing your opinions to others with what I believe to be the goel of helping others in the long run :)
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Год назад
Most of work is accomplished with the same handful of tools. They're not the sexiest tools either. But when you need specialty tools they're nice to have.
@lyster1ne681
@lyster1ne681 Год назад
I use a shoulder plane regularly when adjusting long rabbets, such as for box lids or in the back of cabinets. It’s not essential, but it can make certain jobs that much easier, and I think that goes for all the tools you listed. Really it depends on the kind of work that you do and the way that you do it.
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 9 месяцев назад
Adjusting rabbets is exactly what I was going to say as well.
@rickgibson7876
@rickgibson7876 Год назад
Only thing in this list I have is a set of chisels but they were free. Belonged to my grandfather and when my dad gave them to me they had been well used and abused. Most of the handles were either missing or broken. Fixed them up, turned new handles and they are a welcome addition to my tools.
@stanbrackhage
@stanbrackhage Год назад
have been watching your videos for a dozen or so years and got inspired 10 years ago to get into hand tool woodworking in some part because of this channel. Thank you sir for all the years of great content.
@jons2447
@jons2447 2 месяца назад
Hello, Mr Graham; I think you misspoke when you said you hadn't created anything in this video. I think you created *VALUE* for your viewers by helping us to not waste our money & time. For that, I say *"THANK YOU!, Sir!"* Have a GREAT day, Neighbor! PS "Please sir, may I have another?"
@johnapppel64
@johnapppel64 Год назад
After just a couple years into woodworking, I'm with you 80% of the way. My one point of divergence: I *do* make tables and things with longer legs, so my vintage Stanley No. 8 sees regular use. But as you point out, people who aren't working on large projects don't need a honking big plane. I do love my chonky boi, though, even if I do 90% of my planing with a No. 5.
@knutboersma4386
@knutboersma4386 Год назад
Somewhere deep inside, many hobby woodworkers are actually tool junkies, and easy to prey upon. I agree with pretty much everything here. Couple of honorable mentions to add. Dowel plates for sizing dowels. I recall these being pushed with drawbore pins once upon a time. And dedicated carbide burnishers for card scrapers, when the honest truth is that the shank of any reputable screwdriver will do the job.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
"tool junkies", I feel seen.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Год назад
I've tried screwdriver shanks and they really didn't do it for me. I polished an old round file and it burnishes good. Perhaps my screwdrivers are not reputable? I certainly wouldn't want a screwdriver with a shank as hard as a file.
@N4CHO_
@N4CHO_ Год назад
I agree with you on everything and I also drank the 'woodworking kool aid' too. I have a jointer plane that I used for my workbench; now it's benched and my low angle jack does everything else. I think buying 4 good quality chisels is a worthy investment (1/4" - 1/2" - 3/4" - 1") instead of an entire set. I really like this type of video! maybe you could start a 'overhyped and underused woodworking tools' series? Great videos as always!
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
watch the next 4 days. trying to play the algorithm before I go live with some hard to make videos.
@MikeAG333
@MikeAG333 Год назад
1/4"-1/2"-3/4" & 1" IS an entire set.😁
@riplikash
@riplikash Год назад
Really enjoyed this video. Personally I find uses for all my chisels, from the smallest to the largest, bevel sided pairing to Japanese square sided. Maybe it's just because I like using them and I always find an excuse. Carvings, inlays, bow ties, cleaning up cuts, blocking out initials. I generally have at least 3 on the bench with me for any given project. My no 8 plane is also something I couldn't give up. I don't trust my eye, but I trust my plane. It's saved me on several countertops, tabletops, and benchtops. And it might be my favorite tool to use.
@normanbott
@normanbott Год назад
You didn't destroy my opinion of you but enhanced it. Marples Blue Chip chisels takes me back. I bought a set when they first appeared, I was about 20 . I never buy sets of router bits for example. Wondered about a shoulder plane many times, but lucky me never wasted my money. A great video.
@randycosgrove3608
@randycosgrove3608 Год назад
Totally agree on the shoulder plane ( I have the same one you do ), the jointer plane ( I have a Veritas ) and the tiny router planes although I don't have any of them. I do have and occasionally ( very occasionally ) use a home made hand router plane about the size of the one you like. And I do have too many chisels that I don't use as well. Most of us get caught up in the hype before we actually figure out what we need for the type of work we do.
@plexibreath
@plexibreath Год назад
The only place we differ is on the jointer plane. My most used plane is my huge #8 jointer plane, my least used is my low angle jack plane. I just get a flatter surface with the #8, especially for neck-through laminated guitar neck stringers.. I also like my #4 bronze Lie Nielsen, which gets almost as much use as the #8. I think the nature of the projects you work on determines you must-have tools.
@robertcisek3990
@robertcisek3990 Год назад
I'm an old woodworker. I've been at it for years, making this and that. Each project intended to improve my skills. You are "spot on" in this video...the tools you mention are not worthless, just not necessary. I have all the tools you mention (like you, I read all the articles, saw the videos, went to the shows and bought what was "hot") and rarely, if even, use them.
@allenwc
@allenwc Год назад
Ha ha, you are 100% correct. I bought a jointer to make doors, 12 doors later and I still have a jointer plane, that I don’t use any more. There are a lot of other tools you don’t need as well. Keep up the good work, love your stuff . . . still!!!
@squatter3425
@squatter3425 Год назад
Once again, horses for courses. I do not have an electric jointer. I use my 40-year-old ELU table/chop saw combination to straighten the edges when joining boards, and my No 7 Stanley to match the glue surface. I also have a No 4 and a 10½ Stanley plane, but when it comes to gluing board edges, No 7 is the go-to guy. Another tool in my shop that is only touched on in discussions is my Stanley Yankee screwdriver which I bought 1n 1964. At the time it was a wonderful time saver. Today battery operated ones have taken their place. I will add the 1/8 th chisel in my ancient Bacho chisel set as indispensable at times. I love your videos. Keep it up!
@youngplayboy786
@youngplayboy786 Год назад
Few days ago I bought a Taparia CJP No. 5 Jack Plane and this is my first Jack Plane that I have bought in my life. After unboxing, I was very excited to use it as soon as possible. After tuning, I realized that this plane was not making chips, I increased the depth of cutting blade but on doing so it used to get stuck. I noticed that the cutting blade assembly and chip breaker were getting clogged quite often, with small wood chips getting clogged between the cutting blade and the chip breaker. Trust me... I said "it's kind of $hit jack plane💩" I was thinking my money was completely wasted. After few hours I was on RU-vid trying to find solution about that issue and I found your video where you said "you know cap irons, they just suck" , After that I understood what is the problem and its solution. thanks for that video.
@danielemmons3513
@danielemmons3513 Год назад
Think this list will change depending on the woodworking your doing. I use my No 6 and 8 jointer all the time for boat deck and tabletop glue-ups.
@rejeanbrisebois7343
@rejeanbrisebois7343 4 месяца назад
Just experience and honesty. Pure gold ! ❤
@johnnyb95678
@johnnyb95678 Год назад
Really appreciate you sharing your experience and opinions. In my case, I guess I am ahead of the curve, as I don't own any of these items. Thanks for saving me money. Please keep sharing! Thank you!
@colinellicott9737
@colinellicott9737 Год назад
Great vid - bold! Thx. I subed because I like frank opinions like these. I actually like my jointer and shoulder planes. I don't use them often but I do use them for their intended purposes. I make small and medium sized tables, archery bows, cutting boards, and I use no power tools.
@Hatchmade
@Hatchmade Год назад
I cry fie on you for the jointer plane comments! They are essential for looking awesome on a tool wall.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
***snort***
@Realism91
@Realism91 Год назад
I'm always watching videos of people using unnecessary tools to achieve their project. Being picky with things that don't affect the results. But I still enjoy the videos usually.
@victorinomanuel1
@victorinomanuel1 Год назад
I had the same experiences with my projects. I only have a bunch of basic tools and most of my tools are home-made. Your video is appreciated much. Thank you.
@johanneswerner1140
@johanneswerner1140 Год назад
I'll build myself a jointer. If I don't use it I'll at least have had the fun building it...
@petrsidlo7614
@petrsidlo7614 Год назад
@@johanneswerner1140 Good luck, I bought a wooden one and absolutely love it, wouldnt want to mess with the weight of a metal one. Will you be mortising the opening for the blade, or will it be a glued construction?
@davedaniels8211
@davedaniels8211 Год назад
Totally agree. At school, 🇬🇧, we only used hand tools. Chisels were most used. I've still got a set, but they don't get much use. Nostalgia!!
@malcolmsmith5903
@malcolmsmith5903 Год назад
Absolutely agree. On chisels you've covered the 'need' and I agree although I do like to have a slightly smaller sized companion to my most often used chisels for cleaning out. Side note: I used drawbore joinery for my large garage shelving because I didn't have long clamps and doubling up clamps, tensioning rope was a pita.
@usingwaytoomanynapkins3274
@usingwaytoomanynapkins3274 Год назад
I'm about a year in apprenticing in woodworking and when it comes to tools I find it's all about solving what annoys the crap out of you and what speeds up the process. I'm with you on not needing a complete chisel set. I use 3 sizes because each size solves an annoyance with the other 2 sizes. In theory I could marginally reduce the annoyance with a couple of more sizes, but then I would have more chisels to sharpen, which is annoying.
@BeeSharp
@BeeSharp Год назад
We need more content like this! Great video, sound logic.
@Apillicus
@Apillicus Год назад
Tools are definitely a personal choice. My #7 is one of my more frequently used planes, but that's because i rebuilt it and it's been tuned for me. The chisels i would agree with as well. I have 4 and each is used regularly without me feeling like i need something else. Though being completely honest here I'm going to get more because i plan on making them in my forge. This is definitely an outlier though
@StarDustSid
@StarDustSid Год назад
Good video, cheers. With the exception of the shoulder plane I agree with you on the other tools. I love my vintage Stanley jointer plane but I've only ever really used it to flatten the bench I made.
@Artexmadera
@Artexmadera Год назад
Good to see you back, I would defer only on the shoulder plane, it does get a lot of use around here, same with the rest, chisels have been an ongoing experience, it takes time before you have the right selection for your own paricular needs, like my go to is always a 5/8 full chisel, 1/2 " would just be too narrow around here, thanks for the video!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger Год назад
I have a nice shoulder plane....that I've never used once. My jointer I use a little....but not much.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
But there's always the "I might need it someday...."
@alexyoung3387
@alexyoung3387 Год назад
I was going back and forth on buying a jointer plane. I finally decided that all of the finishes I like to use require sanding. Since I could only chose one tool for that kind of money, I opted for a nice sander rather than the jointer plane.
@geoff4791
@geoff4791 Год назад
Superb video. Just what I needed to stop me in my tracks, and make me think about what I really need, as opposed to what I want.
@billtipton6660
@billtipton6660 Год назад
EXCELLENT! I completely agree! Thank you
@oldtop4682
@oldtop4682 Год назад
Sage advice! I have a nice set of chisels that are seldom used - I use my old Marple's for most stuff, and a beat to crap Buck 1/2 for work on the house. I have 3 joiner planes. Two German wooden bodied planes, and a Stanley that came to me via my father-in-law. The German (made by Ulmia) ones I got at a thrift shop for....$4.00 each. So, I kinda fell into these guys. I do use them sometimes for matching edges on boards - you flip one and plane them both at the same time, flip the one back, and you have matching edges. 2-3 passes with the plane and I'm done. Talking longer boards here, and yes I have a joiner, but for two boards the plane is faster. Still, I can't fault your advice because the cost doesn't justify itself. One thing I think folks fail to consider is making your own tools. I wanted a marking gauge, but lacked the money for a nice one, so I made one. Same with a mallet, sanding blocks etc. I still have all those and use them 35 years on.
@prestonian1066
@prestonian1066 Год назад
👏👏👏 Every second of every day, someone somewhere is being persuaded to part with their money for something they don't need and woodworking is no different. A LOT of woodworking tools just gather dust(no pun intended) and are so rarely used, if ever, that there is always another way. So it takes you twice as long to do a job because you don't have a certain tool. Doesn't matter if you only do that job once in a blue moon. Definitely wortheffort to make this video!
@artswri
@artswri Год назад
Thought provoking! I use my 2 mini routers all the time. I like the small size, it just works for me. The other 4 mentioned I don't commonly use. Thanks for the thoughts!
@papaacorn9479
@papaacorn9479 Год назад
Thanks for this. I’ve been eyeing both a shoulder plane and some draw bore pins for about a year, but keep putting them off until I get to a project where I need them. Haven’t gotten there yet.
@jackthompson5092
@jackthompson5092 Год назад
Thanks for your insights.
@tomware9448
@tomware9448 Год назад
You are right on in regards to chisels and hand plane. They look good in my tool cabinet. I have purged my shop several times. BTW most of my work I do with hand tools.I call it a bench shop. Not a pro just entertaining myself.
@Heseblesens
@Heseblesens Год назад
It is very refreshing to hear and see some down to earth and so true advices for the new and even seasoned woodworkers here on youtube! Ten thumbs up! 🔟👍🏻 Let’s face it - most of us are tool hoarders…it might stir the fragile mindset of some of us in this category. But that does not make your advices less true or important. 😄
@jimrosson6702
@jimrosson6702 Год назад
Great video thank for you honest opinion as a new woodworker you look at these videos and think you need to buy all these tools
@walnutcreekwoodworksofjack3520
I used one of those big planers but it was from the 19th century at the WV State Farm Museum, Carpenter Shop as I was showing the many things there.
@albertotinebra7883
@albertotinebra7883 Год назад
Nice video, I agree on all the points you made, but I think a larger plane is very handy for larger work. At the time I built my 180cm (6 feet) workbench, which I use as a reference for every single project, I only had a n.4 and a crappy n.5 I used as a scrub plane. I bought a Juuma n.6 for the job and loved it. Long enough to flatten the top, but still light enough to handle for a long time. It's my most used plane for sure now, unless I'm working on something really small, then I'll pick up my n.4.
@gregarrell6132
@gregarrell6132 Год назад
Very sensible advice. I can actually think of quite a few other “non essential” tools. I think a lot of us make that mistake. I certainly have two of some tools and only use one of the two very rarely. I am just selecting a bunch of them to offer to my 3 sons and two brothers.
@dariushmilani6760
@dariushmilani6760 Месяц назад
I really enjoyed your presentation and I very much agree with your conclusion. Liked and Subscribed.👍
@Tiger2000Lion2005
@Tiger2000Lion2005 Год назад
Great Video. Love this to help everyone out there. 1- I have a large medium and small shoulder planes its super useful for shoulders, tenons and dado work. I agree it does have some limited uses 2- agree I like medium to large router planes 3-I use all my chisels 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4, 1 and 1 1/2 etc...good for all dimensions in a pinch, agree with short chisel 4-agree 5-I build larger furniture and the jointer plane is indispensable even with my 16 inch jointer and 16 inch planer. Truly appreciate these videos for showing us different options to solve a problem.
@zacculbertson2458
@zacculbertson2458 Год назад
Thanks again for the time you take to make us videos.
@wildemone
@wildemone Год назад
The Rikon in the background is probably my next upgrade. Agree with all your decisions and find sharpening skill with diamonds more pleasant than waterstones. I do love my Japanese chisels but use my power tools before their saws. I recently bought an English Norris plane 100 years old which I adore. Very much a novice at woodturning but thank you for explaining so much!
@TomasRosberg
@TomasRosberg Год назад
I use the no7 the most, I like it for joining the boards of table tops. But I think your point is true all the same, because I have a cabinet full of planes that I never use. I also have a big set of chisels that I do use most of the sizes but a whole second drawer of them that never gets opened or used!! It's funny that I've been downsizing my shop when thiis video came up, we don't need that many tools and experience proves that the more we do woodworking. Great video!
@jeffdutton1910
@jeffdutton1910 Год назад
I love my medium shoulder plane though I must confess that a significant part of that is the simple pleasure of having it in my collection. It doesn't get used that often so I couldn't say that I really "needed" it but I wanted it, and I am fortunate enough to be able to afford it.
@j3ah0o
@j3ah0o Год назад
Love the idea of matching the faces with sand paper. Sounds much better than running the pair down the table saw.
@thehickorylanewoodshed2378
@thehickorylanewoodshed2378 Год назад
Thanks so much for sharing this information. Very helpful…
@patmash
@patmash 9 месяцев назад
Agree with all your logic here. While some may need certain tools mentioned, most will not.
@crocro8559
@crocro8559 3 месяца назад
Love the shoulder plane for boat building, especially boat repairing. For carvel built boats and the bow of clinker built boats. I used a shoulder plane almost everyday in the boat building school I was in. I think the tools are good for very specialised type of woodworking. A non timber framer wont need as many or as big chisels as one that does timber framing. Think of what you do, that defines what tools are important to you. Better think of the title as: "Five hand tools I don't need and why"
@darodes
@darodes 9 месяцев назад
Great points Shawn… I’ve become a huge fan of yours over the last couple years
@jstoeck784
@jstoeck784 Год назад
I agree with you on all of these. A jointer for flattening large benches, maybe? I think a No 6 will do just as well. I never use my shoulder plane, well almost never. Usually a larger chisel. I only use three, maybe four chisels. I only have a standard router plane, and it hasn't failed me yet. I do most of my joinery by hand and still only need basic tools.
@castlegatejunction
@castlegatejunction Год назад
Thank you for this video and reducing my guilt for never having owned a shoulder plane (I’ve never seen the need for what I do) but have been told so many times by so many people I need one.
@sk8brder
@sk8brder Год назад
Awesome content and saved me a lot of money as I was about to purchase a jointer plane for my in progress workbench build. New subscriber here!
@roy.mclean
@roy.mclean Год назад
The jointer plane was one of the first tools I bought. I used it a lot at first and then I bought a cheap benchtop 6in jointer. The plane is so heavy and needs a 22in space for storage. I have used the tiny routers for cutting grooves for sliding panels on the tops of boxes. I also had to build a tiny one to make a dado to set a bridge on a guitar. They are useful, but specialized. For bench chisels I use 1in, 1/2in and sometimes the 1/4in when i need to reach a tight place or need to pare down the shoulder of a tenon (instead of using a shoulder plane)
@paulerickson2774
@paulerickson2774 Год назад
I use my #7 & #8 to flatten my bench tops and to keep them flat. But your points are well taken.
@TheMessyStudio
@TheMessyStudio Год назад
Good info as always, Shawn!
@StefanTarras
@StefanTarras Год назад
Great video. Came a recommendation and quite timely. I'm a new woodworker and amassing a collection of vintage tools to get going. I was looking for both a router and shoulder plane. You sir, have saved me some money! Thanks! Still going to buy a No.7 Stanley though. hehe.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
Go for it. You’ll get a workout using it.
@markp6062
@markp6062 Год назад
Great list and thanks for sharing! I, too, bought a full set of Richter chisels and I only use a small, med and large. all the ones in between just sit. I'm in the process of acquiring planes now and have been thinking of a Jointer, or maybe just a #6 or 7, but maybe I'll hold off for the time being.
@SuperiorModel
@SuperiorModel Год назад
I own many planes. 99% of the time, the biggest plane I use is the no 5. The 1% of the time I need anything bigger, I reach for my no 6. See how you get on with just a 4 and 5 before buying others. I've spent silly amounts of money acquiring planes I've never needed.
@garybecker4490
@garybecker4490 Год назад
Good call. I have a set of chisels but they were a really good buy. They havent left the box yet. 😃
@terryrogers1025
@terryrogers1025 Год назад
Thank you young man, a much needed video, want and need are two different animals. I will start watching you again, I like the honesty
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
"young".... you're nice people.
@jpncompany6275
@jpncompany6275 Год назад
Good video. I am in the same boat, but hey life is short and I still like finding a new tool that I don't really need! You can't take it with you so, be good be happy is my goal.
@ToolsandTime
@ToolsandTime 7 месяцев назад
Some good advice in there--definitely some things I wish I knew when I was younger.
@robertunderdunkterwilliger2290
@robertunderdunkterwilliger2290 Месяц назад
My first hand plane was a No5, made in India. It was so awful and I could never learn to use it. It was long before YT and I just gave up. But I wanted to learn so eventually I got a Jointer (it was suggested in a picture in an old NRA gunsmithing book), and with the help from YT I actually learned to use it. A little later I got a No4 Handyman and I have found it to be a great tool, and much easier to use on normal sized stuff than the Jointer. I will keep the Jointer, for truing up stock blanks, but I can do even that with a No4. Nothing beats experience! Now I want to build cabinets ... I'd like a nice indoor plinking cabinet for air guns, with lots of targets and a pellet trap in the bottom.
@fredpetros2553
@fredpetros2553 Год назад
Very good content, thanks.
@MarklTucson
@MarklTucson Год назад
Can't argue with much of your list. I'd go with a few more chisel sizes but definitely not a large set. I've found a 1/8" chisel to be very useful in many cases because it can get into spaces that a 1/4" cannot. I got the 4 chisel Marples set and have been using them for well over 25 years. As you said, 1/4 and 1/2 are the most used but I do find that sometimes 3/4" is more useful than 1" and the converse in other cases so I don't see that the 4 chisel set + 1/8" addition are excessive. Definitely agree on the shoulder plane I got a good one but it has seen very little use.
@ISwood4U
@ISwood4U Год назад
I fully agree with the entire list. I would add to that a full set of sharpening stones. An extra-extra coarse diamond stone, a Norton India combination stone, and a strop is all I need to shape and sharpen my edges. Loved the video!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Год назад
What do you need a coarse stone for?
@ISwood4U
@ISwood4U Год назад
@@1pcfred I don't have electricity in my shed, so it replaces the grinder to restore primary bevels.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Год назад
@@ISwood4U that's a problem. I would consider grinding the primary bevel pretty much essential. It is not efficient or practical to grind the primary by hand. I actually prefer the hollow grind over a flat grind anyways.
@MrOlaboss
@MrOlaboss Год назад
Cheers! I have been debating jointer, side rabbet plane and perhaps a wooden bodied moving filletster. I kind of figured that the shoulder plane was overkill for most applications. I just love old wooden bodied planes even if I can’t find use for them.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
Dude, if you like em buy em. That's reason enough.
@1truefreedomfighter
@1truefreedomfighter Год назад
I tend to only use 2 chisels as well!! My smallest one, and my biggest one.
@frankcooper6118
@frankcooper6118 Год назад
I agree with all of that. I use the same chisels over and over, usually 1/2", and 1 1/4". I mostly only reach for the smoothing plane. The small router plane has it's home in my tool bag where it gets plenty of use on site for morticing for the plate of door latches, but it's never seen use in my workshop (shed would be a more accurate description tbh). Never heard of the drawbore thingys, even though I drawbore quite often and I don't own a shoulder plane and have never felt I was missing out. I have plenty of tools that see little or no action, both power and hand, and they all seemed like a good idea at the time, when I get time they are going on ebay.
@doylemade6387
@doylemade6387 Год назад
This resonates so much. While I knew I was going to be more of a power tool guy, I still drank the Kool-aide on hand tools. I bought a 4 pack of chisels, but only grab my 1/4"; bought/restored 5 planes of varying types, but only occasionally use a block plane (minor clean up, chamfers, etc.) ; and I don't know how many types of saws because I only ever use a cheap flush cut saw and a ryoba. I've been debating for years about buying a router plane, and replacing all my current planes with either a shoulder or rabbeting block plane...but I clearly haven't need them yet.
@billoxley5315
@billoxley5315 Год назад
I would agree, to a point. Sometimes, a razor sharp plane, chisel or whatnot is just nice to use.
@ADVJason
@ADVJason Год назад
I agree on all of these. I have an old craftsman jointer plane. I have used to for the fun of it a time or two. But the 4 or 5 1/2 get used the most. I never pay much for stuff as I am just having fun building what I want. If I were doing production I'd get tools that make things easier sure. But I like fixing up old tools too.
@MrMNRichardWright
@MrMNRichardWright 11 месяцев назад
For sure worth the time to learn what I don’t need.
@shawnstuart1029
@shawnstuart1029 Год назад
You have to figure in the show factor too! A shoulder plane was just the thing to finish off my hanging tool cabinet and it shines. Enjoyment of tools can come from looks and feel as much as use. Takes time and money to accumulate but sure feeds my habit .
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
still cheaper than the jewelry we buy spouses.
@plssmellmycheese
@plssmellmycheese Год назад
i cleverly picked out a spouse who has no interest in jewellery...great success!
@OORAH659
@OORAH659 Год назад
We The Few.... 👍 Agree that the need of materials (TooLs) are small. We learned from the ancient Roman Soldiers who carried what they needed and 💡build, walls, roads, encampments.... Thank you for being brave .... OORAH!!
@reaper060670
@reaper060670 Год назад
Thanks for the helpful advice pal.. Love ur channel btw. It's packed full of great ideas for learning as well as great advice and tips on best practices and tools we all need or there I say it DON'T need.. LOL Keep the great content coming my bro.. Salute from Dublin, IRELAND!
@robandsharonseddon-smith5216
Superb advice. I don't own any of those but was considering a shoulder plane. You have saved me some $$ there. I'll get my dream router plane instead...
@scottadams2624
@scottadams2624 Год назад
Hey Sir, love your videos so much, and have for many years. I do disagree with you on that jointer plane, though. My shop is a shed, with only an extension cord for lights. I use all of my planes nearly every evening. 48" is about the longest component on any of my projects, but I have found it incredibly frustrating to try to get edges flat and square without my 22" jointer. In fact, I would say that it is probably the most fun thing to use, because when I get done with my jointer, I know that part is true, and then it's time for the joinery and assembly. Just my .02. Thanks for the video. Totally agreed with all your other points. Cheers.
@glennirwin4710
@glennirwin4710 Год назад
Good video. I feel the same way.
@kodoan411
@kodoan411 4 месяца назад
Recently made my mother-in-law some 8 foot tall shelves, 24 inches wide, and 16 inches deep (per her very specific request). Had to join some box store lumber to get to 16 inches deep. Brought some of my tools (I live about 300 miles away) but forgot to pack ANY of my hand planes. Went to harbor freight, bought that ghetto number 4 for 17 bucks. "Fettled" it with some sandpaper on top of an old night stand. Then proceeded to join two 8 foot tall shelves with it! It's not fine furniture nor even decent lumber but it's "good enough" for some basic shelves. I actually looked at it as a science experiment - hypothesis proven.
@marvinmcconoughey3547
@marvinmcconoughey3547 3 месяца назад
I have the Harbor Freight #4 plane, just for fun. I have better planes. But after super-sharpening the plane and smoothing the bottom, it planes almost as well as my Veritas of the same width,, weighs less, and is more comfortable in my hand. Amazing.
@LessTalkMoreDelicious
@LessTalkMoreDelicious Год назад
Nice vid! I love a vid that tells me what to NOT get, instead of making me gas for something! I’m a n00b, shoestring budget and also want the most minimal kit possible. Currently, only have 3 planes and wanna keep it that way - #4-1/2 (smoother, small jack), #6 (flattening, small jointer, large jack) and #405 (grooves, dados, rabbets, marking knife for big 4’-8’ sheets). Chisels, Irwin Marples 5pc set. Saw, Gyokucho Kataba Japanese saw. Files & rasp, Shinto and Nicholson 3pc set (already had the Nicholsons prior to starting woodworking) Craftsman scratch awl, acetate handle. Actually started w a #4 from Home Depot… but returned it to get a vintage #4-1/2… because I was impressed w the quality of the vintage #6 I got. Block plain… I’ll pass, since my #4-1/2 can do the same, and a Shinto can do chamfers and endgrains very nicely too. Spokeshave… I’ll pass too, since the Shinto can do its’ tasks too, easier to boot (always hear spokeshaves can be a pia sometimes and chattery). #6 is also great imo… cuz it’s much cheaper than a #7.
@MASI_forging
@MASI_forging Год назад
Great to see your video. Look fabulous as alwyas 🙂🙂
@mikeharbert5086
@mikeharbert5086 Год назад
Brilliant video and lessons! Always appreciate a good chuckle while learning. I have to admit, I have some "Kool-Aid Inspired Tools" collecting dust in my shop. I particularly appreciated your comments on chisels - my one divergence... I have an old Stanley 1/8" chisel with flat sides that was my grandfather's and I use it all of the time. Don't think I'd have ever bought an 1/8" chisel, but I find that I'm almost always reaching for it for fine tuning joinery. Your videos are quite refreshing after watching other folks who insist that you can only do quality work with absurdly expensive tools.
@feathersword8232
@feathersword8232 Год назад
Thank you. I’ve been weighing up whether I needed small router planes or to only get a large one.
@user-mi5pv7no3v
@user-mi5pv7no3v 10 месяцев назад
I am new to wood working and i am on my own to figure things out & limited physicaly so vids that will save me money are detrimental on this road im going down now, vids that help newbs like me are kind of a big deal to us. Thank you
@wortheffort
@wortheffort 10 месяцев назад
see my prerequisite series and start woodworking series.
@What_Other_Hobbies
@What_Other_Hobbies Год назад
I use my jointer plane regularly. I have a 6" jointer, but for long and/or wide pieces, I use my No8 instead of making a sled to feed it into thickness planer.
@singerap
@singerap Год назад
Love it. I have shoulder plans, draw boar pins and a #7 plane. I do use my small shoulder plane for tuning joints fairly often. But the medium and large ones almost never and they are not necessary. I have never needed the #7 or the draw boar pins. However, I do have a full set of chisels and I do find that I use all of them on occasion. While there are a few that are used most of the time, it has proven handy to have the full set. On the other hand, I have never understood the appeal of butt chisels. They always seems a poor substitute for a full sized chisel.
@airford13
@airford13 Год назад
i have a lot of planes, and a lot of big ones, but its only because i collect woodworking antiques. your point about the chisels surprised me, had not thought about it that way.
@marcbarash6045
@marcbarash6045 Год назад
Good Job Shawn
@fmbjmf
@fmbjmf Год назад
Well done! I think some of us were wishy washy about the chisels, but for sure a full set is a luxury and my wide ones don't get a lot of use. I've always had a jointer plane on my list but just never seem to need one bad enough to fork our the dough. I have a no.6 that I use a lot. As for the shoulder plane, my Stanley no.78 will do just fine the odd time I need a shoulder plane and for some reason they still seem to be the one plane you can get for cheap on the used market.
@wortheffort
@wortheffort Год назад
Ya, I got a couple sizes of those Stanley Rabbets somewhere. When I was starting out I'd find reasons to use them and I'll admit, that was fun. But nowadays.... a chisels faster and easier.
@fmbjmf
@fmbjmf Год назад
@@wortheffort Heh Heh I was somewhat worried you might put my Rabbet Plane on the list. I actually had it out yesterday and it was the perfect tool for the job. To be fair I'm not sure I have ever used it as a shoulder plane, I was more or less saying that if you think you need a shoulder plane, get a rabbet instead, more useful.
@tonyr3352
@tonyr3352 Год назад
Agree on the mini router planes 🙂
@captainsawdust1
@captainsawdust1 Год назад
I agree with most. I use my Stanley #271 router plane when putting locks on doors for the latch mortise on edge of door. My large router plane is too big to register on a 1 3/8" thick door. I use a router for the hinges.
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