'Five potential targets' in Post Office investigation 

Why is no one mentioning Adam Crozier former ceo of Royal Mail and post office from 2003 - 2010 when a lot of these prosecution were taking place he needs to be investigated now

The guys who oversaw the convictions should go to prison. What they did was beyond horrible.

The entire appalling saga makes my blood boil. Over 700 innocent men and women were hung out to dry by PO executives who lied through their teeth throughout. They have blood on their hands and destroyed livelihoods as well. All power to the group of 700+ people who are fighting for the justice denied them for so long. They deserve to receive back every penny they lost, plus compensation for every year they endured in being branded guilty. Parliament must deal with this now as a matter of urgency.

They need to pay back EVERY PENNY that they stole from sub postmasters, including payments to next closest living relative of any who have sadly passed away. This was massive fraud.

Very strange that the Met police have only started investigating following the airing of the ITV program. Some people should go to prison for this shameful episode - and I don't mean Sub Post Masters!

What's shocking me about this is the police and politicians all of a sudden springing into action as a result of the success of a TV series. It should not take public ire as a result of this kind of exposure for police and politicians to wake up and do the job they should have been doing all along. It's not unwelcome that the programme has kicked started this official response, but where were they before?

This must be one of the most serious corporate crimes ever committed in UK. Let’s hope the culpable individuals aren’t allowed to escape their responsibilities by hiding behind the “corporate veil”, while taking their massive pensions etc.

Disgusting abuse of power. They knew they'd made big errors but wouldn't admit it. Preferring to let these innocent decent people face life changing disgrace. Surely those responsible should also be jailed?

The people responsible must face the consequences of their actions to make sure this never happens again

I’m betting nobody will face any accountability for this fiasco. Corruption and fraud are now the norm on Turd Island.

Vennels was CEO she knew what was going on sat & watched lives destroyed. The person with the reins of the Post Office must pay but she walked away. Prison is what the public wish to see.

I have never been so angry watching that programme. It was pure evil what they did to those people.

Such injustice makes my blood boil. And no one ever gets done. The establishment protecting their own. When are the British public going to get it that our politicians aren't here for us. We are not their primary concern.

Work for a few months as a helpdesk worker at fujitsu ( not the post office ) , A girl I worked with told me never to go on the post office desk, as it was a complete nightmare. They knew this was early 2003.

Telling someone that they must repay missing money and that they are the only ones having a problem with the computer system when you know there are others and you know there are IT issues is the very definition of fraud and obtaining money by deception

Adam Crozier BT CEO needs questioning. This is so big it cannot be ignored it’s absolutely devastating for British justice and the gvmt as well as all institutions

My full sympathy to all subpostmasters , they should all be fully compensated immediatly

I would like to know who told the helpdesk to say no one else has this problem, this implies that they knew others had this problem

THREE NAMES: Adam Cozier Paula Vennells AND Ed Davey.

Long prison sentences for those who destroyed people's lives.

Don't forget Adam Crozier, former CEO of Royal Mail, who was conveniently not mentioned in the ITV drama. He just so happens to be chief executive of ITV. Funny, that.

It's started in 1999. This is disgusting.

Absolutely appalling what these lovely people went through, Vennalls needs to give her gong back and go to jail along with all the others that lied including the lawyers from the post office and one more thing, pay every penny back and compensate everyone and families of the poor people that have passed away. I'm FURIOUS.

I hope the police go after all those accountable and responsible for this horrible injustice.Who knew what and when is the salient issue in this whole scandal.The fact in the documentary that individual postmasters and postmistresses were told on the horizon help line that they were the only ones experiencing problems and difficulties,which was a lie from the beginning,should be a good starting point.

Vennels needs to spend time in prison for her part in a criminal conspiracy. All her assets should be distributed to the victims. As to Fujitsu, the government can cancel all contracts with them on the basis that there is a substantive case that two employees representing Fujitsu committed perjury at the direction of company thus the company is in a criminal conspiracy. You will find in all government contracts that false representation regardless is a serious breach and give government the right to cancel all contracts. Likewise with fraud. This would make Fujitsu’s position in the UK untenable.

When Horizon was initially released I was clearing Post Offices as an employee of Royal Mail. One of these offices was run by a chap who could run the paper work in a paper mill. Within days of installation he realised things weren’t quite right but, like I said this chap was a filing cabinet and every touch of that keyboard was backed up with paper even though the idea was less paperwork more efficiency. Although he raised concerns and thank the lord his computer behaved he realised where this was going and sold his shop and P.O. It’s now a house. This happened at the start of the convictions. Oh yes heads should roll in management.

The post office auditors need to be investigated too

Vennells Davey Crozier. Who has been rewarded from all this - The Lawyers !

3,500 subpostmasters. All told they were the only ones

CEO should receive a lengthy prison sentence - twenty plus years.

The bosses of the Post Office should go and meet each person who was accused and apologise outside the Post Office in front of the community and admit wrong doing. The press should cover this awful miscarriage of justice.

What a terrible travesty of justice!!! Big brother PO compartmentalized everything so each PO master thought this WAS ONLY HAPPENING TO THEM. Then add to that the stigma within their community and you have a hermetically sealed group of victims!!! Kudos to the TV program for breathing life back into this horrific travesty of justice!!!

Excellent interview. Now, every one of these perpetrators must be prosecuted, otherwise, our justice system is meaningless!

I wonder how many ministers had their palms greased signing off Horizon 🤔🤔

Started with Royal Mail CEO John Roberts in 1999, then Adam Crozier 2003 - 2010, and Paula Vennells 2010 - 2017 - how come the first 2 are not mentioned ? Part of the problem is the number of changes in senior personnel from 1999 to today, that were incompetent, malicious, obstructive, covered up or were misled - watch none of them will suffer.

Not surprised the Met is investigatiing. From 2015 the most of their work as been done for them.

His final sentence about government paying compensation with taxpayers money, they should be clawing this back from the directors purse through the proceeds of crime act! Also Sue Fujitsu for some of the costs the system was not fit for purpose! If this was my company I would have asked for a refund on that system and stopped using it as soon as it as apparent that it wasn’t working properly. Also if they can’t prosecute the directors then our justice system is broken and needs reform asap! There’s no way they should get away with this.

Watching the program was mind-blowing. I can't believe no one has been prosecuted yet.

I'd put lawyers at the very top of the list. Their compliance in the phony prosecutions was pivotal.

Fujitsu and post office management must have committed perjury to convict these innocent people. They must be prosecuted or the law can no longer be trusted at all.

The Hypocrisy, this woman is playing holier than though as a priest (or whatever they are called), and then does all this.

Given Ed Davey is now on record as saying the Post Office lied to him about Horizon, may I suggest the Police caution him then ask one question. Who at the Post Office told him that the sub postmasters were stealing and committing fraud by stating Horizon was not to blame?

An awful lot of post office staff from the investigators, lawyers to middle and senior management must have know that the horizon system was throwing up wrong assessments. They did nothing. Far worse they used this incorrect information to ruin peoples lives. They should be brought to book and held to account for their actions. They built a fortress around their organisation and have now been found out.

There have to be 10s and 10s of people, at least 50 or more, who ought to be facing serious criminal investigation as a consequence Post Office's conduct. I do hope we don't get just a few scapegoats strung up. That would only make matters worse.

Take their pensions, bonuses and jail them! Nothing can make up for what they did

All those convicted should now have a full pardon from the UK Government nothing short of this is acceptable

These Royal Mail people who have caused so much pain and suffering to the postmasters need to be dealt with in the most rigorous fashion. Put simply they should all do time behind bars.

The scary part of this is...if this tv show had not highlighted this debacle in all its disgust is...would the police now be investigating and would the government being so interested?

Get ‘em all… please. The connivance and the hypocrisy is truly breathtaking. These people were financially incentivized to ruin decent peoples’ lives. Deliberately & cynically

Disgusting behaviour by the post office. I hope all the people involved including solicitors are scrutinized.

There is a sixth line now being followed, as one of the judges involved has referred his case to the police, asking them to look into possible cases of perjury and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. I hope more judges do the same.

It's not potential fraud. It's fraud. Convicted postmasters had to pay back money that never existed in the first place, much like a Giftcard scam...

What I didn't realise, was that the Post Office could bypass all the "checks and balances" in the legal process! NOT ONE of those cases would have proceeded had the CPS been involved; (All cases are reviewed by the Criminal Prosecution Service, to ensure the case is valid, the evidence is robust, and that there is no risk of a miscarriage of justice). It appears that the post office had the power of a legalised "lynch mob" parallel to but not constrained by the british legal system. I don't know if this absurd legal anomaly was removed when the PO was sold, but it surely should never have existed in the first place.

There has never been a successful prosecution of a corporation in this country. The prosecution of the Post Office Ltd should and must be the first, and the key players prosecuted for their crimes.

Can Paula CBE evil woman, not be charged with corporate manslaughter, due to the employees who committed suicide under her watch?

How can anyone keep quiet and let people go to jail when they know they are innocent ? It is inhuman.

I worked at Royal mail for 34 years . I put in for a transfer to another office closer to home . I gave up with my transfer request after i was told because i was a on the trade union i was a trouble maker which i was not and the boss at the sorting office didnt want a trade unionists at his office. This is how this company works so it was no surprise to see this happening to my fellow colleagues i just hope these poor people get justice. This company and its management are rotten to the core

All the solicitors, and barristers acting for the post office should be thoroughly investigated, and I am sure some will have breeches professional standards and ethics. Therefore should be stripped of ever practicing law again ! Ed Davies is not innocent along with other senior civil servants who should also be investigated and prosecuted if need be.

Since people from Futijsu could get into Postmasters' computers, I wonder if any of them were taking money.

An important aspect is missing from this. Consider how many post masters would ordinarily commit theft or fraud? I'd suggest pretty rare, relatively short term, and normally detected by PO's internal auditting way back when we valued society. What rate was it? 1 in 1000? 1 in 2500? There ought to be some idea of what rate of occurance real life brings. Easily deduced right? We then prosecute hundreds of previously good character people for fraud..... and no one in the police or the CPS asks why a rate of crime jumps up massively? No one asks the force next door. No judge says funny, Ive been involved in law for 35 years and can only recall a handful of crooked postmasters and now, 750 appear in 5 minutes. The law has many functions. The poluce are dupposed to investigate the truth of a matter and present the truth before a court to decide what is for the maintenance of society.... it is not meant to be idiots on piece work generating convictions. And yet we find ourselves in a position where the biggest, most widespread miscarriage of justice in British legal history does not appear to have any component of self introspection. Consider your own work, dorsnt matter what you do. Think of a rare, but serious error. How often does it happen? Then ask if it was a mistake, or malicious intent. Then imagine the rare event starts happening all the time, your losing hundreds of staff to prison sentences and losing hundreds of thousands.... and no one asks any sensible background questions. No consequences for who implemented the erroneous changes. And no punishment for the myraid people who prefer the sanctity of any generated conviction over the truth. Given this has been the case for decades, why does our law now need adverse publicity before it acts? And who is it protecting when it knowingly acts at a rate so calculatedly slow? If you continue to trust and respect your law please explain why?

Spot on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This says to me: Don't privatise public utilities or let them act as such

And don’t forget Keir Starmer as Director of the DPP oversaw the prosecution of those Post Masters Ed Davey is small fry in this

Why now? To put in another way: is the police enforcing the law or the public moods?

I agree that Vennels should lose her CBE, but she shouldn't be made the single scapegoat. There is no way that she was the only one involved, and frankly she was probably less directly involved than some people who have got off scot-free (Adam Crozier, etc.)

Someone needs to go to prison for all the Post Office lies....

Plod prefer easy target.

As we already know no will go to jail, it never happens to these powerful rich people.

This is so so sad 😢 the amount of folks' lives it has affected is unreal. No amount of compensation is going to give those poor families their lives back. How much time in their lives has been affected? No one can put a price on Time, because Time waits for No. Criminal, the government must be involved!

Ministers walk free again, The buck must stop at the top Ed Davy should resign .

There can be NO ADEQUATE compensation for peoples' lives that were destroyed by these evil people; AND for one of them to masquerade as a member of the clergy is total hypocrisy.

Can't Paula Vennels and the other Post Office executives involved be made to pay the compensation? After all Vennels lives in a multi million pound house which she could sell to raise some of the money and I'm sure she and the other executives have enough wealth to at least make a significant contribution towards the repayment of money owed to the sub-postmasters.

MPs should have been speaking of injustices for their constituents, they failed and must be brought to account. MP Andrew Bridgen tried but was shut down - again.

The test as to whether the button should be pushed or not will actually be the level of outrage of the public!

The MET will probably go and rearrest the postmasters, they are that slow.

How many years are they prepared to watch.

They need to pay back EVERY PENNY that they stole from sub postmasters, including payments to next closest living relative of any who have sadly passed...Someone needs to go to prison for all the Post Office lies....

Lawyers with professional credentials and morals! Do me a favour, they go wherever the money is regardless.

Isn't it about time the crooked lawyers were held accountable?

This is happening within HS2 !

Don’t forget the legal profession. Get our money back off them.

Such a shame that it's taken a TV drama to get all the current attention.

ALL those involved in making the decisions to prosecute sub post office workers who were aware that they were innocent, should face serious scrutiny and legal proceedings. Apparently the PM is looking to exonerate everybody "that's 100's of people" who were accused of this awful miscarriage of justice. The post office are ultimatly responsible but certain Goverment ministers need to awnser questions as to there lack of action while this was happening. The British public need to push for an open & honest outcome & to highlight who was responsible and stop this happening again..

The Judges and Magistrates who convicted and sentenced on evidence they should have known was tainted, flimsy and wrongly obtained should be sacked and fined.

I think there absolutely is a case against the legal advisors if they helped the post office thwart attempts at justice whilst knowing full well themselves that these convictions were based on perjury. Put it in front of a jury and let them decide, the public will not accept mysterious decisions not to prosecute made behind closed doors by fellow members of the establishment.

I would like to know the scope and depth of software validation that was performed by Fujitsu and similarly the systems verification completed by the post office prior to rollout.

Get them

How many people have taken their lives or died over the worrying,.

Next up.....school Academies...appalling things going on.

Paula Vennells should not only be sent to prison for many years, but should be made to pay a massive amount out of her own pocket towards compensation for those post masters who's lives she's wrecked.

Where did all the money go?

It seems the Post Office Solicitors & legal reps need to be investigated

Ed Davey must go ! So arrogant not to apologise how can anyone trust him ?

You missed out Judges. They seem to have been extremely negligent, biased towards the prosecution and unduly dismissive of the victims.

Wonder if the police will investigate this with all the vigour they demonstrated when investigating the Downing St lockdown breaches, I predict these nasty individuals who gleefully prosicuted innocent sub post masters will wind up (if eventualy found guilty) with £100 pound fines.

Good point on lawyers.. some should already be on remand in jail..

so basically until Government and Police publicly embarrassed by a TV program, they tried to sweep it under carpet....

How was this not investigated by the police sooner as soon as a number of PO workers convicted by stealing. There must be accountability...

When are we going to see all the judges held up to the public gaze. All the judges that presided over unsafe verdicts because of their incompetence. Allowing egregious abuse of the rules of evidence and the rules of disclosure. I want to see a list of every judge involved and every judge must appear before the inquiry too.

P.S. Great programme.