@@Average.joe1 I’ll be there to watch them! I’ve made similar progress to you in your high school progression (103 freshman, 117 sophomore, and hoping to throw 140ish this year for junior) and I think a video on the basics of lifting for furthering your distance similar to what you did your high school years going into college! Also it would be awesome to see some PRs when you smash em this year :)
I've recently begun training again at age 44 after stopping at age 19 and I did notice my discus came out really low and it is precisely because the lowpoint shifted too far towards the releasepoint. In my case it was my horribly lazy footwork, my old habits as a technically & physically mediocre shotputter (glide) reasserted themselves and I kept trying to stand up too tall on my right leg rather than letting the left ground hard and working the right hip around properly and this effectively sabotaged my lowpoint because I shortened the orbit by standing up into it so it took a shortcut across and came out almost at hipheight. I managed to correct it in my standing throw so far but it will take some work to rinse out all my other bad habits =)
@@Average.joe1 well, you said the right arm is just a rope. I understand what you mean but it’s more than a rope. Your pecs and shoulders have to be strong enough to hold the force being generated by the lower body. Thus generally the need for a big bench press. IMHO
And after a little bit more thought, a robe couldn’t throw anything. Attach a rope to your shoulder and try to throw something. The pecs and the shoulder are definitely applying force to the implement in addition to the lower body.
@@coach.dave.lingner a trebuchet is a great example of a rope throwing something. Your right arm does the least amount of work out of all 4 limbs. It is the most rope-like. Having strong pecs is incredibly important. But it’s just as important that they are relaxed throughout the majority of the throw up until the last few milliseconds. I think that it is more the “elasticity and stretchiness” of the pec muscles that throws the discus rather than the brute strength of them. And yes. Having strong pecs will make that stretchy pop at the end of the throw more powerful. But look up a video of a trebuchet and think of the long lever as the two shoulders. And the rope as the right arm.
@@Average.joe1 thanks. I am learning that elasticity and stretchiness is so important in all of track and field. In your videos I’m seeing you present some information that I don’t see in other places which I appreciate. It’s interesting to ponder. Definitely the pec would need to lengthen in order for the discus to be carried behind the shoulder. But obviously not completely relaxed as you would lose that elasticity. It’s more of an isometric hold until the finish. we utilize the stretch reflex to initiate the contraction, when the hips accelerate through along with a good left arm block.
