If you have other Type Revamp suggestions, be sure to let me know! Not all suggestions are meant to be taken seriously, but feel free to correct me on any of them since it's free engagement 😊 Many suggestions are "either-or" situations too, so if you see two suggestions for Rock/Dragon for example, assume you'd only choose 1.
I have a bit of a revamp video idea, but I'm not sure if its even possible. Namely, the idea is that with 171 possible type combinations and 143 final stage pokemon across Gens 1 and 2, it should be theorically possible to make every single pokemon line end in a unique typing. Do you believe that it would be possible to achieve this and make every single pokemon line in Gen II unique?
@@marcelocapeljunior3579 You'd need at least 324 unique Pokemon combos in the dex. That probably requires adding regional forms/cross gen evolutions into the mix to fill out that number, or just add pokemon that would feel at home in Kanto and Johto (Mawile, Cherrim, Hariyama, Zoroark, Bombirdier for example) *sorry, I think I misunderstood the question earlier. You could in theory make 143 of the possible final combos unique, but the outlier types will be a bit more difficult to fit to existing mons. Best way to find out is put them all in a spreadsheet or something and start using up the type combos
I don't know if you are taking suggestions for Gen 3, but I have a few. Volbeat and Illumise could be Bug/Electric since they are LIGHTNING bugs. Masquerain should have stayed a Water/Bug I think Skitty and Delcatty should be part Fairy type Maybe Slaking can become part fighting Milotic should be a Water/Dragon or Water/Fairy I can see Kecleon being Normal/Ghost or Normal/Dark I think Sceptile should be Grass/Dragon or some other secondary type since its the only monotype fully evolved starter Nuzleaf and Shiftry should be part Psychic instead of part Dark, so it can make a trio with Breloom and Cacturne. Nosepass could be Rock/Electric, making Probopass into an electric/steel later.
I think Primeape should be changed to fighting/steel type, the reason: it wears metal bracers and the meme about it learning iron tail despite not having tail.
I'd argue that for Parasect, Grass-Ghost would be more accurate than Bug-ghost, as the Bug is almost dead and the Mushroom is the thing in control now, having almost completely taken over
The bug's husk is still the physical form though so I think it makes more sense to calculate damage/resistance with bug type as well as using bug type moves.
But you already said that the dead thing is the bug, so if we take the typing from mushroom it has to be grass and dark cause the mushroom isn't dead, if we take the ghost type we are talking about the bug
Idk some of these seem like a stretch but I guess that's the point of the video, also one suggestion I'll add is Kingler and Krabby being Water/Bug since crustaceans are arthropods like every other bug type except for like shuckle aswell as dwebble and crustle who are also crustaceans getting bug type
Nah most of them made of them are pretty reasonable, honesty the alakazam one is one I never thought about but really like since it would explain why alakazam can bend his spoons so easily despite steel resisting psychic
Shellos and Gastrodon should actually aslo be Bug/Poi, Bug/Wat or Bug/Gro, even though they seem more like Wat/Poi type than Wat/Gro BUT... they're technically bugs (slugs, that is!).
God, just... *SOOOOOO* many of these retypings are such good ideas. It would've fixed and improved the most notable Gym Leaders and Elite Four members with questionable teams. I really don't get why they never gave Ninetales the Ghost or Psychic secondary typing - it was *PERFECT* for them due to their inspiration and the amount of moves of those types they could learn. Agatha could've literally had this big, hot (literally) fox on her team instead of just a Poison-type or Gengar duplicate.
A few months ago I started to create a Fire Red hack rom with this same idea, but doing it with all Pokemon up to Gen 8 and having more of a competitive focus and trying to give each Pokemon a niche.
I literally admire you for never apologizing for every pun and dad joke you made. Don't feel ashamed when you make a pun. It's the world that needs to grow up and have a sense of humour.
Honestly, I could see the Staryu line being *Water/Fighting* type. They’re heavily inspired by Ultraman among other Japanese Action Heroes along with them being shown jabbing their opponent by spinning into them. This last reason’s kind of a stretch but their voice in the anime kinda sounds like a battle-ready cry: *“Hyah!”*
I don't really see why Hypno should get fairy, but not dark. Given their pretty messed up habits of putting people to sleep against their will, carrying off anyone having a good dream and incidents of them taking children
I overlooked Hypno for Psy/Dark since Psy/Dark Girafarig was one of my first changes (script-wise), but it fits well as you say. I agree that Psy/Fairy was a lukewarm suggestion, hence the question mark that's plastered over it.
Magmar could be fire/dark due to its black chokers and kinda smug face and its evolution looks even more mean then there can be a new trio with electric/fighting electabuzz and ice/psychic jynx
The Gen 2 beta Pokemon work well for unused type combinations, as well. Bombshika is already Water/Fire and Ikari and Gurotesi are Water/Steel. I've also seen Rom Hacks make Kyonpan Normal/Ghost, and Rinrin and Kotora could add Normal to their pure Dark and pure Electric-types, since they feature bells in their designs and Normal is associated with sound based moves. Pinsir's scrapped evolution makes sense as Bug/Dark due to how terrifying it looks and makes it more of a counterpart to Scizor's Bug/Steel combination.
I personally think that Hypno is the strongest candidate for a new dark type. Hypno has a strong association with kidnappings due to pokedex entries and the one in the sevi islands and it eats dreams and generally uses dirty tactics by putting opponents to sleep and hypnotizing them instead of fighting fairly. Also dark type is more directly translated as the evil type so I think Hypno really fits the bill. Plus just look at him. Bro looks like he would hang out at parks offering free candy and funnily enough, drowzee can be found in the johto games in the grass right next to the daycare... 🤔
I agree with a lot of your choices, but some of them just don't make sense to me no matter how you try to justify it. I know you're trying to balance things but not at the expense of logic.
I like it when type specialist have 1 or 2 pokemon that fit their personality or type's aesthetic but isnt actually that type as a counter as an example erika could have a sudowoodo because its a tree and it also covers all of grass types weaknesses or flakner having a dodrio (with one of my retypes normal/fighting or ground/fighting) due to it being a bird and with a fighting type it would cover the flying types weaknesses of rock and ice and if its ground then it would be immune to electric
I've always been a supporter of Water/Steel Blastoise. Blasti is my fave gen 1 starter and it being water/steel would just make me love it more! Also Empoleon could easily be Water/Fighting to go along with its War General Napoleon inspirations but this is a supposed gen 2 so thats a different story lmao
The timing on this video was excellent! I actually just recently started working on a sort of reimagining of Crystal, and one of the things I set out to do was make it so no fully-evolved Pokémon shared a type combination (the starters and legendaries being exceptions). I'm also planning on reworking stats and movepools so I didn't follow quite the same parameters, but it was interesting to see which conclusions we arrived at in common and which were different, though I may go back and give another look at it to see if I'd change anything with your suggestions in mind.
@Substitube It'd definitely be something else, I think; I'm still in the very early phases of learning how to program games and such, so I'd probably be making use of the resources people have for RPGMaker and such to do a fangame.
By gen 2 we had 5 Normal-Flying families. My ideal rework would be: - Pidgey line changes to pure Flying. No Pokemon has pure Flying typing until gen 5, and even in gen 9 it's still rare. - Spearow changes to pure Flying or Dark-Flying, while Fearow is definitely Dark-Flying. - Farfetch'd changes to Fighting-Flying like suggested. - Doduo line stays Normal-Flying, with Normal representing their terrestrial nature. - Hoothoot changes to pure Flying with Noctowl being Ghost-Flying. The only issue is that Fearow steps into Murkrow's typing.
So many great ideas. Some over corrections though, like suicune. In gen 2, Those dogs should stay water fire and electric but suicune should learn water/ ice/ “wind” moves (gust, twister). Entie should learn fire/ ground/ rock moves (maybe stomp). And raiko should learn electric moves as well as double kick, pin missile, twister, night shade. Just a thought. I wish they were more versatile.
You should do this for all the regions to be honest! It’s actually nice seeing what you think what types certain Pokémon should be. I also like seeing people make up their own ideas in the comments, type changes aren’t really a thing you see much in the Pokémon community other than regional forms.
The only region I have a somewhat complete revision of is Unova (since it's so self contained). The others mix an match past and present gens a bit too much so it muddies things up a bit.
Celebi is DEFINITELY perfect to be Grass/Fairy. Would also buff her a lot! Onion Fairy deserves the buff. Being 4x weak to U-turn won’t do you any favors..
10 months late to this (thanks algorithim) but i have some of my own ideas -Lanturn- Electric/Ghost mostly due to the fact that Chinchou and Lanturn are based off of Anglerfish, which are very gastly looking and once again acts as a parallel to the retyped goldeen and seaking Aipom- Normal/Fighting- Has a huge fist on the back of its tail that it can use to slam down on opponents Yanma- Bug/Dragon- Dragon-fly self explinaitroy and besides would give the lil fly a much needed buff Fearow- Dark/Flying- Menacing bird that acts very aggressive correlates with the dark type extremely well, and could be one of the few non night type dark types you can get on your playthrough Arcanine- Fire/Dragon or Fire/Flying or Fire/Normal- Dragon since it was correlated with the legendary birds back in the gen 1 movies and flying because of it's mentioned to run really fast also since charizard gets the fire/flying type taken, leaves a spot opened for a non legendary to take it. Also stab extreme speed go brrr Electrode/Voltorb- Electric/Normal- I think Normal fits better than Dark due to the fact that voltorb's just a regular pokeball and electrode and voltorb are both well known for exploding, which is a normal type attack Porygon and Porygon 2- Steel/Normal- Most man made pokemon or pokemon that are heavily suggested to be man made have a part steel typing, and steel would grant Porygon 2 a lot better chance of walling opposing teams. Tangela- Grass/Fighting- Can use its whips to help whip opponents into submission and learns fighting type moves by tm like brick break and focus blast Stantler- Normal/Ghost- Distorying ones senses seems very ghost-like to me, and Stantler can learn a decent amount of ghost type attacks via level up like astonish and confuse ray, with shadow ball being learned via tm. Girafarig could remain Psychic/Normal while someone else gets Psychic/Dark, speaking of that Hypno- Psychic/Dark- This should be farily self explinatory, Everything hypno does just kinda reeks of Dark Type vibes. Politoad- Water/Normal- Good parallel to Poliwrath and besides it's a fairly ordinary frog Wobbuffet- Psychic/Ghost- Could play on how the dummy body is being prehaps possesed by the tail and give it an extreme 4x to both dark and ghost types.
Gyarados isn't a Dragon because of his tendency to destroy things, & Eastern dragons are seen as noble & helpful. I'd give it the Dark type. Bellsprout & Weepinbell keeping the Poison type kinda show how the Evil Teal type evolved from Poison to Dark.
I’m ngl, some of the reasons for making the Pokémon ghost type were kind of arbitrary. I don’t think Lapras should be a ghost-type just because it’s near extinction and Politoed shouldn’t be ghost-type due to sPoOkY sCrEaMs. And the reason Exeggutor was part psychic-type is BECAUSE of that supernatural origin. Morty just picked him because his origins ARE pretty scary. Bellosom shouldn’t be ghost-type because it kind of resembles Phoebe; that’s like thinking Gothitelle should be ghost type because of similar colour scheme and bows to Shauntal, and even *that* would make more sense due to their weird connections to life and lifespans. Your right, Ariados should be dark-type. Aipom is NOT a ghost-type JUST because it has good-coverage and poor facial design.
allow me to throw in my opinions *ghost:* marowak, noctowl, ninetales, parasect, and wobbuffet i 100% agree with. crystal legacy opened me up to making stantler at least part ghost. keep misdreavus monotype, however. *dragon:* ampharos, meganium, lapras, and onix/steelix i agree with. i'd rather dragons feel rarer and more "legendary", so there aren't much i'd like to see. **ice:** i'd rather cloyster the way it is, thanks. i suppose goldeen and seaking can take the open ice/water slot from lapras. **fairy:** i agree with corsola, ponyta/rapidash, and bellossom. also _THANK YOU_ for giving us fairy/fighting granbulll. **dark:** victreebel, feraligatr, pinsir, and arbok i agree with. i'm not against dark type duggy if only it learns beat up. it would be funny. i actually think hypno should be psychic/dark considering its...history. **steel:** sandslash and blastoise i agree with. same with tauros if it's normal/steel. **fighting:** granbull, farfetch'd, electabuzz, magmar, and ledian i agree with. ursaring less so, because it evolves into a ground type later. **normal:** lickitung, tauros, porygon, stantler (never mind what i said before i think normal/psychic is better for it lol), fearow, farfetch'd, kangaskhan, ursaring, and furret i agree with. i can see girafarig and stantler being counterparts to one another. **water:** blastoise, kingler, feraligatr, lapras, (azu)marill, corsola, and octillery i agree with. octillery especially would be cool since it could now work in both sun _and_ rain teams. **flying:** noctowl, togetic, farfetch'd, spearow/fearow, and ledian i agree with. not much else to say here, i just wish we had more primary flying type mons like noivern of kalos. **poison:** victreebel, and lickitung i agree with. let venomoth stay since it's cool to see gym leaders pick up coverage mons. **bug:** pinsir, parasect, ledian, and pineco i agree with. again, not much to say here. **grass:** victreebel, parasect, and pineco i agree with. sunflora especially would be pretty cool to see since as a sunflower it experiences both sides of sun buffs. **psychic:** mr. mime and wobbuffet are the only ones i agree with. unown i could go either way with. oh, and stantler fits. **fire:** ninetales, rapidash, sunflora, typhlosion, and octillery i agree with. i could also see rapidash also going fire/normal. **electric:** ampharos and the porygon lines i agree with. again, not much to say here. **ground:** onix/steelix, marowak, sandshrew/sandslash, dugtrio, ursaring, kangaskhan, and typhlosion i agree with. typhlosion always felt like a ground type to me in concept. **rock:** onix is the only one i agree with here, but mono-rock larvitar and pupitar could also be cool.
Victribel is cool as a Dark Mon but as a BUG TRAP it is not 4x Weak to Bug (like in Gen 1, huh). No Matter the lovely Gen 2 Art Style it could need a Imune to Bug Moves Ability and super effective against Bugs attack.
I haven’t kept up with the cards so that was a mistake on my part. Man, poison really can’t stick to one energy, can it? First Grass, then Psychic around Gen 5, now Dark
In many eastern myths, serpents and snakes tend to be seen as a precursor to a dragon. The idea being that they would eventually ascend to the heavens as a dragon. So you could use that explanation for Onyx, Dunsparce and Gyarados. Hell, you could even throw in Ekans into the possibility, since it is also a serpent.
@@Substitube Yeah, that makes sense, I can see why you went with psychic/fighting, but psychic/dark just fits so well, even if Girafarig and Stantler would overlap typings as a consequence. I considered retyping Stantler to normal/ice before Wyrdeer existed, but it's an awful typing. Maybe Jynx Ice/Fairy (She's possibly based on three different myths, two of which are yo-kai, like Mawile, she's also theorized to be inspired by ganguro fashion, some fairy types are related to beauty and fashion, that's the only reason I could justify Snubbull's typing, for example) and Stantler Ice/Psychic? Anyways, great video! the only other typing I was expecting was grass/rock Meganium (dinosaur shaped, learns ancient power, amazing type to help Chikorita throughout Johto specifically), but you brought some typings here that I haven't seen or even thought about before that were really cool, I've been taking notes for a Pokémon reboot/reimagine using only the first couple of gens for some time, and I'll definitely take these into account for that project!
I always felt that Farfetch'd and later Sirfetch'd would have been better as Grass/Flying, because of the leek and Leaf Blade just works so well with it's critical gimmick... they also should receive Sharpness as their primary ability...
Should have made typhlosion poison type instead of magmar. Typhlosion based on a honey badger are really resistant to posion so much they might as well be immune to it. I know it doesn't get any poision type moves, but it could have learned sludge bomb through tm not just toxic.
although arbok Poison/dark, gyarados water/dragon, ponyta and rapidash Fire/Fairy, wobbuffet Psychic/Ghost, stantler normal/Psychic, sunflora grass/fire and octillery water/fire would not be bad here are the fixed types of certain Pokémon: hypno Psychic/Ghost, spearow and fearow Flying/dark, pidgey, pidgeotto and pidgeot pure Flying, doduo and dodrio steel/ground (seriously ostrich don't fly), blastoise water/steel, exeggcute pure grass, exeggutor grass/ghost, voltorb and electrode Electric/Steel, lickytung Poison/Fairy, hoothoot and noctowl Flying/Psychic, grandbull Fairy/Fight, bellossom grass/Psychic, Marowak ground/fight, tyranitar ground/dark and lugia water/dragon.
Adding the ghost type to wobuffet is not a good idea at all. Why would you want 2 immunities on a pokemon whose entire strategy revolves around counter and mirror coat?
Some very interesting picks here. I agree with a few like Onix becoming rock/dragon and Steelix becoming steel/dragon but there were some that I was like “what!?” Lol.
another reason corsola could be water / grass is both the thought (usually by kids) that coral’s a plant, but what i think is a better reason is coral is covered by microscopic algae that gives coral its color and life
I know you are trying to make all pokemon unique but i personally hate the idea of pure flying types that aren't legendary or have a unique design so instead of fearow being pure flying it could be dark/flying (due to its aggressive behavior and vulture-like appearance) or maybe even ground/flying or fighting/flying and if you do ground/flying and don't want it to overshadowed gligar, then gligar could be poison/ground or bug/ground type with levitate (if abilities were available) because just because it has wings and can fly doesn't mean it has to be a flying type just look at venomoth, flygon, beedrill and latios/latias
I think I get what you're saying with Fearow. For Gligar/Gliscor, i'd probably go with bug/ground if that's the case (otherwise if Gliscor ends ups poison type, it won't be able to take advantage of Poison Heal if Abilities come into play)
Great video! Ever considered doing this for gen 3? It's my favorite generation and I feel like a lot of Pokemon are mistyped by the devs. Just like Gen 1 and Gen 2, Gen 3 had questionable decisions to the types distribution
You went too far with the ghost-because-perish-song skit. Marowak is kind of... reasonable, Noctowl and Ninetales still make sense, but then on Lapras, corsola, Politoed? really?
Rangi's Polished Crystal (including the latest beta) already had a few of these changes! Most are more reasonable choices than some of the ones I suggested Added Ghost to Noctowl, Ninetales, Marowak Added Fire to Octillery, Sunflora Added Fairy to Bellossom, Celebi, Rapidash, Added Dragon to Ampharos, Charizard Added Fighting for Electabuzz line and Ledian Added ground to Dunsparce Dark to Feraligatr I think Steel to Blastoise too?
Me: Gamefreak, I want Fighting-type for the Electabuzz line Gamefreak: We already have a Fighting-type Electabuzz line at home Fighting-type Electabuzz line at home: *Pawmot*
I guess I don't understand what's wrong with single type pokemon. I get the point of the video is to change types for things, but single type pokemon are a good part of the games
There's nothing inherently wrong with with mono types by themselves, but the sheer volume of repeated montoypes in Kanto-Johto are more than any other generation. 1-2 different monotype families per type is fine in my eyes, but you won't find 20 mons of the same type combination for multiple types in, say, Gen V. I hoped the grids before each type would demonstrate how that happened in Crystal: - There are 29 pure water types out of 50 total waters and 32 pure normals out of the available 44 normals. Each monotype in these cases outnumber all of Steel+Ghost+Dark+Dragon+Ghost combined and over a 10th of all available pokemon in the entire national dex up to that point. - Lack of secondary stab options for weaker mons who share the same monotype and same role. - A gaping hole is left in the selection of unused types, especially for the underutilized ones that barely have any mons in their population in the first place. - Lack of beneficial resistances afforded by dual typing.
@@Substitube -Making certain types rarer than others absolutely intentional on Game Freak’s part, not a mistake. The rarity of dragons and ghosts is what makes them feel special and powerful. The abundance of water and normal types makes them feel common in comparison, because they represent large swaths of actual animals. This game wasn’t only designed with battling in mind, it’s a monster catching game. I won’t deny its effects on the battling ecosystem, but the lack of diversity in some areas was intentional and important to the game’s original design. Obviously they’ve changed that philosophy and adapted it as time has gone on, but as a whole certain types have lower representation to this day and as a result feel more rare and desirable. -Yes, having dual typing has benefits to battling both defensively and offensively, but a lot of times that can make a Pokémon worse. Normal type can absolutely hinder a Pokémon because it adds a weakness and is almost never used for coverage. Most ice, bug and rock types are bad because their defenses suffer from their type. Their stats is what makes the stand out options viable, not the bad typing. So the concept that having another type on a Pokémon inherently makes it better is flawed. Hisuian Avalugg is awful precisely because of its dual typing, normal Avalugg is way better. Both aren’t great in general, but that’s because of the stats
Really disappointing video, you usually put a lot of thought into everything else but here it felt like you were just throwing stuff on a wall and seeing if it stuck even the slightest bit
my bad. I understand the disappointment. A lot of thought went into the making of this video regardless, but perhaps in this format it's easier to see just how disorganized my thought process actually is compared to the shorter lists or tutorial stuff.
Yeah after ninetales I don’t agree with a single one of the ghost type changes. They are pointless and added in with no real reason from the existing Pokémon besides maybe parasect which honestly fits more grass ghost since the mushroom is taking over.
Instead of making Alakazam psychic/steel you could give it a new signature move (or change the effect of telekinesis) thats a psychic move but its super effective against steel types
I definitely regret not putting Dark as a Fearow footnote. Maybe at the time I was avoiding crossing over into Murkrow/Honchkrow territory as physical attackers too
*thumbnail premirer gang* "what? Petah, it's like the perfect should-be psychic type!" "That's what everyone always says, if it's smart, it has to be psychic type, is anything that sleeps underwater automatically makes it water type? Oh wai-"
I like the idea of Typhlosion being Fire/Electric since it’s famous for learning thunderpunch plus it’s color scheme fits. Also I feel like Tyranitar should be changed to a Dark/Dragon since it’s based of Godzilla who is a skyscraper sized lizard, I don’t really know what it has to do with rocks anyways. Gengar would also make for a good Ghost/Dark type for its mischievous nature and color pallet in gen 2. Really like Rapidash being Fire/Fairy btw. Totally makes sense and didn’t even think of it!
The jagged mane reminds me a bit of Jolteon's as well, now that you mention it. We don't have many Fire-Electrics so the change would be a welcome one!
@@Substitube Hey by the way, I gotta ask you since I got you here. How do you get into Pokémon rom hacking? I really don’t know a good jumping off point. I don’t know coding at all but I figure if people on the internet can learn it I could too. What do you recommend?
@@AngeloRosales64 I got into it as sort of a natural progression of making fakemon. I've already come up with all these fakemon/gym leaders/region, so why not try to package it into something playable and concrete? I'm a terrible programmer myself so I'm pretty much stuck if there's no tutorial or pre-existing code to model off of. This is pretty much my Gen 2 hack go-to(github.com/pret/pokecrystal/wiki/Tutorials for github.com/pret/pokecrystal. Installation instructions: github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/master/INSTALL.md) It seems like Gen 3/Pokemon Essentials are better starting points since they have the most tools, templates, and documentation available for newcomers. Much less intimidating than Gen 1 and 2, with more people available to answer questions.
No offense, but making wobbuffet ghost type is really stupid when you consider he wants to use counter to return damage, and if he's ghost type both normal and fighting moves won't affect him, which really takes the point out of him. Still usable Ofc, but just stupid that 2 whole types won't affect his main gimmick, not to mention this opens up more weaknesses which defeats his gimmick even harder. For example he will be double weak to dark type, this opens up a lot of one shot potential, needless to say that's not good.
I'm happy you didnt just do bug/fighting ledian but i personally think bug/fairy would be better due to its pokedex saying it has connections to stars, starlight for energy and that it scatters sparkly powder that is said to be goodluck also in real life lady bugs in some parts of the world are seen as goodluck and the color red is also a lucky color (also i prefer the idea of ledian being a special attacker then a psychical attack 🫣)
I think Cloyster could be a Ghost/Water type as its basically Gastly in a shell! Its literally a ghost, inhabiting/possessing a shell. Make it a ghost type COME ONNN
I personally do not like the idea of a grass/fire sunflora i think if it were to get another type it could be psychic because its typing in beta GS was actually grass/psychic and we have seen multiple times that there are a lot of sun based pokemon being psychic type like espeon, solrock and solgaleo
I predict you’ll be mad, but not too mad lololol. There’ll be multiple type suggestions per given Mon. as a side note, the Pokémon company itself has given Lugia water type in the trading cards on 3 separate occasions 🤫
Doduo and dodrio could easily have its flying type taken away due to being a flightless bird and could become normal/fighting or ground/fighting (fighting due big flightless birds are known for kicking and having powerful legs and ground due it being a grounded bird and its brown)
