Fixing Kanto's Gym Leaders (Gen 2) 

Hope you enjoy the video! 😅It's about time I finished the gen 2 gym leaders! Next video will be on a different pokemon topic to mix it up!

Huge agree with Mewtwo, it shows that Red truly did conquer Kanto, and if you defeat him you did something pretty cool

Type specialists without type coverage when I show them a Thunderbolt TM.

8:30 I mean, she does become an actress in gen 5, so unintentional foreshadowing, I guess lol.

What if Blue was actually Purple in disguise

I remember that NPCs wont ever use Thief. They are programmed to avoid this move as much as possible.

15:26 the AI will switch out if they are about to die to Perish Song as long as they have another Pokemon.

Red with a Mewtwo goes hard tbh. A romhack with these teams would be pawesome

full movesets? full evolutions? nooo this is not gamefreak approved

I'd actually argue this is a case where I'd want to see these base game. Enhanced difficulty and strategy makes complete sense for a postgame, and makes the leaders actually meaningful rather than just EXP fodder before Red.

Golduck is the best psychic type! Man I’m loving this so far man ^.^

Janine being a newbie excuse doesn't work when you realize Flannery is also in the same boat as her, but unlike her, she's actually still competent (in Emerald mostly).

I love all of these changes to the Kanto Gym Leaders in Gen 2. I’m looking forward to the next Pokemon videos you have in store!

Why not give all Gym Leaders full Teams of 6? They're Post-Champion Bosses. Why not give them full teams?

Golduck is the best Psychic type I know in fact Golduck may be my favorite Psychic type ever I am not being held hostage by Golduck to say these words

All hail Golduck, the best Psychic-type! (Also, nice team changes. I hope we get to see you fight them, like last time!)

Always a delight to see one of these. I love how intricately you go into giving them moves and great reasons behind the choices. It's something more people should do, especially when it comes to giving Pokémon teams to other established characters (giving Aquaman a mono-Water team is the biggest cop-out ever XD). Anyways, enough rambling. I might disagree with some of your choices in the series, but you're the guy who reminds me most of the way I like to approach Pokémon teams, and that's something I can't really say to a lot of people. Keep up the good work and good luck in life 😊

So glad to see a new vid! I always enjoy your retrains of older teams, I can't wait for the next one!

Giving Surge a Lanturn as other comments have noted would definitely be a good change to his team (and it can be fished in Vermillion City no less!), so I think dropping it from Misty to give to him is a good idea. What I didn't see suggested was giving Misty a *Qwilfish* as an anti-Grass option instead of Lanturn - she's pretty heavily Special-based with your 5-member team, so swapping Lanturn out for another physical attacker would balance things out a little. You could even tailor the sets slightly differently, going Lead Qwilfish (Spikes/Sludge Bomb/Swagger?/Surf - confuse the player to hopefully force a switch and take hazard damage) and swapping Sludge Bomb off of Setup Quagsire (Curse/Surf/Earthquake/Rest? (with a Mint Berry for longevity?)) to be something a little longer in the tooth, albeit with one less move making use of the boosted Attack from Curse?

Giving the Electric Soldier Porygon to the Electric Soldier makes perfect sense

I think it's fair you gave Mewtwo the objectively worst hidden power type (even at it's highest base power) and make it the lowest level member on Red's team. Considering Johto's level curve and the gap between Blue and Red being quite the significant gap...yeah it makes sense for the only legendary Pokemon on his team and level 75 would still be quite a grind to reach. That said, at least HP has no impact on the pokemon's special and speed DVs, so I'll give you that.

You’ve redeemed yourself by giving Johto’s Pseudo Legend to Brock. Well done.

Love this. Someone needs to make a gen 2 romhack with all of your fixes used. Keep up the good work!

Not sure if it was intentional, but you sounding like you were about to start laughing after Janine's GSC team really sums up players' reactions to that team

I’m so glad! The kanto gyms were so disappointing in those games

Fixing Kanto's Gym Leaders (Gen 4) when

These are probably some of my favorite Pokemon videos on the site at the moment! Keep them up please!!!

1:01:44 About the scope lens, since you gave it to like half the gym leaders the player could just thief one in advance. Similar case as white herb, only obtainable in the base game from Blaine's Magcargo (now unobtainable with your changes)

Should have given Starmie the full Surf, Psychic, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam moveset.

Loved all these changes! Not sure if this has been asked before: but how do you create the layout for your revised teams? Is there a program you use, or is it just editing Bulbapedia?

Poor Espeon, always being replaced. Mewtwo is very fitting for the post-game superboss team though. I love your videos!

7:52 a bit surprised you didn’t choose Lanturn but this is a very good team and a massive improvement over the original

1:38 Hardly relevant to the video, but I actually learned why those stats are now that color. If you were to look at the status screen in X&Y, you would see the text colors green for HP, yellow attack etc. Noticed that when I went back into my old save of the game.

What I would change from your teams: Brock: Onix -> Steelix (Sandstorm, Rock Slide, Earthquake, Iron Tail + Quick Claw) Misty: Lanturn -> Gyarados (Hydro Pump, Strengh, Hyper Beam, Fire Blast + Pink Bow) Surge: Porygon -> Lanturn (Surf, Confuse Rau, Thunderbolt, Hydro Pump + Leftovers) Blaine: Rapidash -> Charizard (Flamethrower, Earthquake, Fly, Sword Dance + Soft Sand)

Brock out here doing an unemployed any% with that team (Also that fake thumbnail, i almost choked on my food laughing 😂)

I'd give surge lanturn instead of misty so he can counter ground and rock types better

I love the fact that you made some callbacks to your previous videos like Surge's Porygon. The choices you've made were quite interesting... I would've given the starter's weakness choice for Blue instead of making Gyrados his "main" but it's fine anyway, overall. Mewtwo on Red is a nice touch ! Never thought about it before, personally... Little "complain" : i would've left an Ariados to Jeannine, even thought it's really weak on this stage of the game, i think it still fits a poison type specialist's team, but it's juste my opinion ^^ And give love to Mantine and replace Misty's Lapras with it... I know that Mantine is weaker but that allows you to avoid a repeat 😜

Gj on making these videos, the teams r great and did Kanto justice. Kanto is a big part of the johto games but the gym leaders strength r so inconsistent and weak especially when it is post game. Where you would expect all trainers would be stronger.

I feel like Hidden Power should've been given to more pokemon. Pokemon like Surge's Magneton, Erika's Bellossom, and Janine's Cenomoth would benefit alot from Hidden Power Grass, and Water (for the latter two) respectively.

Really loving this series, especially giving characters strong but underused pokémon (like Dodrio and Porygon2)! Although in that vein, I think it's a huge missed opportunity not giving Janine a Nidoqueen as her ace - I've always thought it was the best possible pokémon for her!! My team for Janine would be: Qwilfish (w/ King's Rock) - Spikes, Toxic, Sludge Bomb, Headbutt Beedrill (w/ Scope Lens) - Twineedle, Sludge Bomb, Focus Energy, Double Team Weezing (w/ Pink Bow) - Explosion, Sludge Bomb, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt Tentacruel (w/ Leftovers) - Surf, Ice Beam, Toxic, Protect Nidoqueen (w/ Soft Sand) - Earthquake, Shadow Ball, Thunder Punch, Ice Punch My main goal was to differentiate Janine even more from Koga (gen 2 team) and to give her some unique team members that basically no other bosses use. Thanks for reading!!

Tbh, I played White 2 Challenge Mode and beat the story in 44 hours with some change. I just found that all I needed was grinding.

I had no idea Synthesis was affected by time of day. Very interesting.

Psyduck/Golduck: - are named after psychic references - learn damage dealing Psychic type moves - aren't Psychic type mons Staryu/Starmie: - are named after psychic references - don't learn STAB Psychic type moves - are Psychic type mons

Janine actually could be worse... I halfway expected her item to be an Antidote. By the way, Kabutops can get Ancient Power earlier as an egg move.

Here's my changes to the Kanto leaders: Lt.Surge: Raichu, Electrode, Lanturn, Magneton, and Electabuzz Sabrina: Espeon, Mr.Mime, Slowking, Xatu, and Alakazam Erica: Tangela, Jumpluff, Victreebel, Bellossom, and Meganium Janine: Crobat, Weezing, Qwilfish, Ariados, and Venomoth Misty: Golduck, Quagsire, Lapras, Starmie, and Vaporeon Brock: Rhydon, Kabutops, Onix, Golem, and Sudowoodo Blaine: Magcargo, Magmar, Rapidash, Arcanine, and Ninetails Blue: Pidegot, Gyarados, Exeggutor, Rhydon, Alakazam, and Typhlosion

Is Generation 2 finally finished? If so, I'm looking forward to Generation 3, even if it'll take a while.

What on earth i was just now watching you lmao

Champion Red should have the Hydro Pump, Fire Blast and Solar Beam combo imo and Pikkachu only have a few extra levels for lols but this is a cool video man

Pokémon is series primarily for selling to children but fans from when it originally came out and was huge are adults now and they do advertise on nostalgia often, so there should be something for them and that should be in the form of a hard mode

i forgor to vote but a gen 4 video would be nice, idk if their teams are really that bad except for diamond and pearl

Haven’t started the video yet but I’m excited, I really wished these gyms were more powerful and less mid, because even in the harder rom hack Digimon crystal I was able to slap everybody in Kanto except red on try one, and trust me they were all rocking level 60’s as this games E4 level curve was, and even with great digimon/Pokémon they were too weak to deal with a good matchup on their own

Was literally grossed out with Raichu being Reds ace for a sec 😅

I like Jolteon for Blue, it reminds me of his Yellow team. Perhaps we could go even further and make it his ace (I mean, Red's highest level is Pikachu, so we can suppose the gen2 games are a Yellow sequel instead of R/B). Another interesting swap that Yellow Rival could give to us is Gyarados -> Cloyster, it seems to be a better gen 2 mon with a 60 -> 85 SATK and a better movepool in Surf / Ice Beam / Clamp / Protect

15:10 I hate to be that guy, but Perish Song is a Normal move, not a Ghost move. Still, it really should be!

1:01:11 You're being kind by choosing shadowball over EQ. EQ + Body slam can hit everything in game with the only resists being Aerodactyl and Skarmory (iirc). You can now hit most steel types better with EQ than shadow ball - if not super effective then neutral at least, rather than being resisted. You can still hit gengar super effectively with a stronger move with the only trade off being that eq isnt super effective on misdreavus, as far as ghosts go.

Curious that you've used Rhyhorn's Yellow sprite in at least part of the Brock section.

15:14 Perish song as a ghost type move? Not gonna lie, it looks more like a ghost type move than normal

@RoryTheFiend I have something shocking to tell you! Blue’s Pidgeot used Mirror Move on my Epseon’s Return. The damage from it was tiny. That means Blue’s Pidgeot really doesn’t like Blue!

Golduck's crit rate with cross chop would actually be 33%, since high crit rate moves in gen 2 are actually +2 crit rate! I kinda wish they kept this, at least until gen 6. They should probably change the crit rate for +1 to ~25% actually, since it just jumps from 12.5 to 50 with the way it is now. Modern base crit rate also seems weirdly low, especially with its reduced damage multiplier.

To me, Red’s team in the OG GSC is perfect and i felt like replacing Espeon with Lapras was very unnecessary

Golduck is the best psychic! great video fella!

Could you add this to the "Fixing Pokémon" playlist?

I don't understand the scope lens on ninetails

Couldn't the Onix be replaced with a Steelix? (He has one in the anime).

Surge Needs a rain setter

quick reminder for everyone to subscribe ! Another great video

Why not give magneton thunder or golduck hydro pump if they have scope lenses?

The STAB Surf contains potassium benzoate.

Sorta wish you gave Misty a Gyarados cause of Brock's Aerodactyl.

If there arent options and the pokemon has narrative reason to make sense with type i dont mind different typed mon. So sudowoodu and porygon 2 feel close enough

If Pokémon types could retroactively be changed, does Electric/Psychic Porygon sound reasonable?

No legendary birds for red?

Why no Lanturn for Surge?

Fuck i missed the premier

Should’ve given Misty a level 100 togepi that only knows metronome

I know that most of the ghosts are poison in this generation but why didn’t you give one of Sabrina's pokemon shadow ball after espeon’s bite ghosts are somewhat safe.

I know youre trying to make the teams more formidable, but i think that more diversity of moves would be cool too. Electabuzz having thunderpunch might be on paper worse but thematically it fits much better. Theres a lot of opportunity to use flavorful moves on these gym teams instead of having 5 surfs or 5 psychics. Mix it up with bubblebeam or psybeam for added flavor.

Idk why but for lt surge and wattson i have always wanted them to have lanturn (yes lanturn is in emerald thanks for not remembering)

Gyarados cant learn EARTHQUAKE in gen2? geez, thats the next aero, gets his moves in gen3 too! Funfact, can learn stone edge but no rock slide I dont get them

Red's Mewtwo should hold the Berserk Gene. Is it stupid ? Maybe. But thematic. And pretty cool since this item is nowhere to see in the game.

Honestly, I prefer Red's team from GSC than his HGSS, I dislike replacing Espeon for Lapras.

I have to say that Golduck is indeed the best Psychic Pokemon

Blue should have a blastoise and Blaine a charizard Erika venesaur

Sorry, Golduck, Reuniclus is the best Psychic type

Blue with dodrio is a good choice. Its just the better kanto bird why whouldnt he rep one good kanto pokemon of similar types

An eye mewtwo the second best psychic be hind golduck

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gamefreak just didn't care about any generations except unova

Hey, Sudowoodo on Erika's Team is fair. Brassius has one as his Ace. Or, I'm sorry, A Truleewoodo, on his Team. Also, I'd prefer trainers NOT have Legendaries. There are specific circumstances where they MIGHT be acceptable; but, NOT a Superboss. That's too broken.

i almost stopped watching when you said that Red's new lead was Raichu. That'd be an awful decision.

You didn't fix anything. Those teams are still shit. It's always the same with these videos: monotype, not full teams and underleveled. Give them full teams, with only two pokemon of the gym's type and FORCE a level parity with the player, for fuck's sake.