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Fixing Pokémon with Cinematography 

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As the years have gone by, I have aged and the wonder of Pokemon battles has dissipated. Strangely, this same wonder for sports has not. And after doing a LOT of watching Pokemon battle film from pretty much… every 3D Pokemon game created… I think the reason for this change is less to do with my age and more to do with camerawork. Today, we’re talking cinematography. Today, we’re talking about why older pokemon games seem to hit harder.
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The Ridge under the tree (0:00​)
Pokémon's Missing Piece (1:18)
Follow The Action (5:54)
Ayo what 'dat camera do (8:13)
What Colosseum did best (10:45)
Dressing up the static shot (15:00)
Making menus SLAP (20:12)
But... you CAN overdo it (21:41​)
The Moment You've All Been Waiting For (24:47)
Please Game Freak... We Love You (27:26)
Thank you and see you in 2023! (28:56)
▶Games Shown
Fire Emblem: Three Houses (2019)
Persona 5: Royal (2019)
Octopath Traveler (2018)
Final Fantasy X (2001)
Deltarune Chapter 2 (2021)
Guilty Gear Strive (2021)
Library Of Ruina (2020)
Xenoblade Chronicles (2010)
Pokémon Scarlet & Violet (2022)
Final Fantasy XIII (2009)
Pokemon Sword & Shield (2019)
Pokémon Battle Revolution (2006)
Pokémon Stadium (1999)
Pokémon Stadium 2 (2000)
Shin Megami Tensei V (2021)
Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness (2005)
Pokémon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon (2017)
Pokémon X and Y (2013)
Pokemon Legends: Arceus (2022)
Pokemon Colosseum (2003)
Pokemon Black & White (2010)
Darkest Dungeon (2016)
Final Fantasy VII (1997)
Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire (2014)
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door (2004)
Pokémon Sun and Moon (2016)
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! (2018)
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (2003)
Jack Move (2022)
Pokemon Crystal (2000)
God of War (2018)
Final Fantasy VII Remake (2020)
Soul Hackers 2 (2022)
Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE (2015)
Valkyrie Profile (1999)
Dragon Quest XI (2017)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (2006)
Super Mario 64 (1996)
Grandia III (2005)
Yakuza: Like a Dragon (2020)
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (2017)
▶Movies/TV Shown
The Raid 2 (2014)
Tenet (2020)
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
Spider-Man 2 (2004)
The Witcher (2019)
The Raid: Redemption (2011)
Casino Royale (2006)
The Shining (1980)
Reacher (2022)
Snake Eyes (2021)
Tombstone (1993)
John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum (2019)
Baby Driver (2017)
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005)
Nobody (2021)
Oldboy (2003)
Birdman (2004)
▶Media/Clips/Considerations:
• PKMN Cinematography
▶Music Sources (in Order):
Pokémon: X & Y OST - Boutique
Track: Epic Cinematic Orchestra [Epic Music} by MokkaMusic / Time Has Come • (No Copyright Music) E...
Music provided by "MokkaMusic" channel and inaudio.org
Deltarune OST - Rude Buster [Persona 5 Style Lo-Fi Remix]
( • Deltarune - Rude Buste... )
Pokemon Battle Revolution OST - Gateway Colosseum
Rage Racer 20th Remix - STIMULATION (Hiroshi Okubo Remix)
Anistar City - Mikel & GameChops
( • Anistar City )
Pokemon Colosseum OST - Cipher Peon Battle
Pokémon Scarlet & Violet OST - Levincia
VVV Melty Blood: Type Lumina OST - Please Leave! (Sleepless Lamp)
Octopath Traveler OST - バトル3
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga OST - Chucklehuck Woods
Pokémon Scarlet & Violet OST - Area Zero Wild Battle
Shin Megami Tensei V OST - Droll
Retro Vintage Funky Beat 1 9 8 0 s - [1980s Instrumental]
( • [FREE] Retro Vintage F... )
Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness OST - Agate Village
Persona 5 Royal OST - Take Over (Instrumental)
Persona 5 Royal OST - Ark
Mewmore // Autumn in Undella (Pokémon Black & White Remix)
( • Mewmore // Autumn in U... )
A Charlie Brown Christmas | Favorite Time of Year - RaisiM1222
( • A Charlie Brown Christ... )
▶Research Articles Cited
/ my_production_problem_...
www.titlemax.com/discovery-ce...
www.gematsu.com/2022/11/pokem...

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@DarylTalksGames
@DarylTalksGames Год назад
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@frds_skce
@frds_skce Год назад
Pokémon S/V is probably the best turn-based battle we could get from Pokémon, but I wish that they done the battle mechanics, graphic and pacing a little better. I like my Pokémon battles to be faster and more expressive, like Pokken but that would be too impossible to do on massive scale (there's possibly 220+ Pokémon in modern games) So yeah, just fix your Pokémon animation, Game Freak, and I would be happier to buy the game
@KING_PHILLIP
@KING_PHILLIP Год назад
Didn't know they had a keychain.. I oughtta grab one for my wife🙄 Her keys are a *purse* carry. They DONT fit in pockets. 😂 makes it pretty awful when i wanna drive. This could fix that🤔
@cbpzombie5462
@cbpzombie5462 Год назад
This is kinda unrelated, but I think some fantastic camera work is done in monty oums work on the RU-vid series Red versus Blue. I highly suggest you check it out, you will not be disappointed.
@joemamr710
@joemamr710 Год назад
I remember when I first realized the importance of camera work in a turn based battle system. It was playing the 3D remake of FF4 on the DS. The battles just seemed so unlively compared to the PS1 era battles, and I realized it’s because in those FF games the camera would pan and move a lot, different angles, the attacks would go off and the camera would show the attack from several angles, whereas with the 4 remake it just say their static the vast majority of the time, it was like the older 2D styles done with polygons. I also remember being so excited for X and Y for the 3D battles, and noticed the exact same thing. The battles were more fun in Stadium simply because of the camera work. Battles where everything is still and the only thing that happens is occasionally a fireball materializes on each side is inherently more boring. I even notice this in sports too.
@jessegartung294
@jessegartung294 Год назад
It's worse in temtem since the battle animation is like FFVII supernova almost every single move is like that. Yea the main reason why they did that. Is to lure pokefans to it.
@IngoLingoAnimations
@IngoLingoAnimations Год назад
As a game programmer myself. I noticed that the Colosseum games' camera tracks the head movement of the Pokemon it's focused on, with some drag. It's pretty simple to implement. Here's the kicker. You need interesting and personalized animations for each pokemon for the camera to follow. Why the camera mimics Golem's animalistic nature, is because the animation is that.
@speedslider3913
@speedslider3913 Год назад
Wow, I never thought it could be this (relatively) simple! Even if we kept the same animations as we have now, I feel a head-tracking camera would still be a massive step-up from what we have now, and would help battles feel more dynamic.
@renookami4651
@renookami4651 Год назад
Yeah, if the character isn't moving much to begin with, the camera will not move either... xD
@nekoimouto4639
@nekoimouto4639 Год назад
pretty sure it does this with some amplification. newer games would probably need a lot more exaggeration but it could work i guess
@ProphitDesigns
@ProphitDesigns Год назад
Came to the comments to say this myself. This speaks volumes moreso of Gamefreaks issue in general than just the lack of camera work. The reason Colosseum works so well is that the system itself is well animated. Everything has soul. The trainer animations, the Pokeball animations, idle animations, attack animations, and subsequently the camera work, all go together to make the battle system feel intense. Gamefreak lacks all of that tbh
@MaxwellTornado
@MaxwellTornado Год назад
I wish it would be possible to make TRUE battle animations for pokémon. But that would require a number of animations that is a factorial of the number of pokémon in the game, so that's a tall order.
@_n8thagr8_63
@_n8thagr8_63 Год назад
Mewtwo, in pokemon stadium, had the coldest animations on attack and defense. It looked like he was firing off Kamehamehas and stuff.
@LethalLuggage
@LethalLuggage Год назад
Mewtwo in smash knocks himself backwards when he fires... So this isn't far off.
@enriqueescobedo28
@enriqueescobedo28 Год назад
I remember using a Metronome Mewtwo in Stadium 2 just because almost all of its animations looked so cool.
@the_well-known_stranger2275
I can’t believe how much Pokémon battles downgraded from Arceus to Scarlet/Violet. In Arceus the Pokémon actually moved up to each other to attack, they didn’t just stay still the whole time. It added a LOT to the battles and prevented hits from just being a visual effect overlayed on the screen while the Pokémon remained rooted to the spot.
@BlueSparxLPs
@BlueSparxLPs 11 месяцев назад
I would expect that the disparity from the two games is related to them being worked on at the same time with different teams (with some overlap based on the credits). I would be surprised if gen 9 doesn't include at least some of the good changes from Legends Arceus.
@AlastairGames
@AlastairGames 10 месяцев назад
I wonder if Arceus and Scarlet/Violet had different teams working on them.
@jacobwansleeben3364
@jacobwansleeben3364 День назад
I can believe it.
@FeltonDood
@FeltonDood Год назад
I love the Final Fantasy 10 camera change when you're killing an enemy for specifically Auron because his run cycle has heavier steps than say Tidus. He also says "Farewell" as the attack is launching, the camera swings and the "Chonk" of Auron's large sword falling on his victim always brings me joy.
@Dominik-K
@Dominik-K Год назад
I love that one too! It's super amazing 🤩
@jamesbanana007
@jamesbanana007 Год назад
Auron is the best character in that game. Easy.
@M.A.R.S.
@M.A.R.S. Год назад
That is a tremendously specific example, I dont think you can get more refined than that
@FeltonDood
@FeltonDood Год назад
I also love the swiftness of Tidus' he says "See Ya!" With his childlike wonder and leaps into his swing.
@tracaine
@tracaine Год назад
Pray! Now!
@xXChaos420Xx
@xXChaos420Xx Год назад
12:18 i fucking love Metangs animation here. The backflip recovery leading into that little dash forward is just so good looking and does a really great job of portraying how that species would/should ambulate in battle and just in general.
@sonicwave779
@sonicwave779 Год назад
It also starts glitching out - mimicking getting an error since it's supposed to be a computer.
@fletch-a-sketch9250
@fletch-a-sketch9250 Год назад
Also when he recovers from the hit and jets forward to return to his spot, the camera lags behind a bit, as if he’s moving too fast for the cameraman to track.
@ianb.2575
@ianb.2575 Год назад
Beldum's damage animation is so over the top, I love it
@limitedlistener6460
@limitedlistener6460 Год назад
27:17 I can't finish the video, I'm completely fixated on how perfect this cut is.
@DarylTalksGames
@DarylTalksGames Год назад
Funny story, it happened on accident haha. I added the transition and it just happened to line up that perfectly. As a wise man once said, “we take those.”
@SingTingz31
@SingTingz31 Год назад
What's wild is that Gamefreak can show they can do great animation and camera work by some signature moves and the cutscenes.
@ivanjarmoluk6484
@ivanjarmoluk6484 Год назад
What's wild is that this is literally the most profitable franchise ever and they somehow get away with anything less than great animation.
@mtk1808
@mtk1808 Год назад
​@@ivanjarmoluk6484 I'm convinced they are the most profitable because they spend 5$ on their products and earn millions back. If you look at other huge franchises they spent millions of dollars taking risks and sometimes losing huge amounts of money. But pretty sure the pokemon company's ideology is "you can't lose money if you don't spend money"
@faisfaizal5194
@faisfaizal5194 Год назад
Gamefreak would cut whatever corners possible to maximize their profits. Not surprised at all.
@Sircoochie
@Sircoochie Год назад
@@mtk1808 i guess but most of pokemon’s value comes from merch etc. Not the actual games
@Silancet
@Silancet Год назад
A prime example of this is Ultra necrozma’s z move being the greatest move animation in pokemon history
@twarnold14
@twarnold14 Год назад
One thing I missed from the stadium days is the attack animation even if it missed. I already felt like I wasted my turn with the sleep powder miss; you don’t need to have jumpluff literally do nothing too. Go beyond stadium and give each Pokémon a little dodge animation. It can reuse some of those movement animations to save on the workload.
@theapexsurvivor9538
@theapexsurvivor9538 Год назад
Yeah, a dodge would be perfect for those dumb little hop animations they're using now. Just have the mon hop back and then hop back into place (or give them some custom animations that make use of the ROM space on the switch)
@whiteeeveeangel
@whiteeeveeangel Год назад
That dodge animation could even have filters added with them to display whether the dodge was natural accuracy, from an ability or item, or from an accuracy-changing move. A blur/dither effect for double team, or a dust cloud effect for mud-slap. A hex-mirrored effect for compound eyes or a gleam for bright powder. A scan reticle for lock-on, even!
@skitterly
@skitterly Год назад
Yeah I never understood that. Like, I still attacked. It just didn’t hit
@shlebben0
@shlebben0 Год назад
"maybe the solution is to give us more double battles" ABSOLUTELY YES, especially for the fights that are supposed to be more cinematic ie gyms and elite four for real I've wanted all gyms to be doubles for so damn long
@LocalHobo631
@LocalHobo631 Год назад
Just another reason xd and colloseum are so great
@ShallBePurified
@ShallBePurified Год назад
The ghost gym was the best part of the entire game because it was a double battle. Double battles are so much more fun than singles because you have more interactions and strategies. Moves that would be useless in singles can be useful in doubles.
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter Год назад
I want to see freeform battles where you deploy all your Pokemon at once, but your team composition is restricted by each Pokemon's size class. So you could have 6 tiny Pokemon on your team, or 3 medium Pokemon, or 1 gargantuan Pokemon, or mix-and-match Pokemon of different sizes. It would be awesome to have 6 of your flyweights work together to take down a colossal Pokemon.
@SAI-Max_D
@SAI-Max_D Год назад
Imagine if Legends: Arceus allowed players to bring out a second Pokémon at the cost of one turn... Seriously though, LA had 2 different menu options of switching out your active 'mon during battle, faint swaps notwithstanding, whilst Pokéballs were kept seperate from the Items submenu; and I seriously doubt that I was the only person who the looked the at turn order and thought: "Boy, would this combat flow look more interesting if having multiple allies and enemies for most battles was the norm, like Octopath Traveler and pretty much every other RPG on the market" (also everything regarding battle cinematography that was mentioned in this video)
@benjam910
@benjam910 Год назад
Tate & Liza in Emerald hits hard
@kanakanaka
@kanakanaka Год назад
cinematography is really the most underrated factor in the common viewers eye. glad you talked about this!
@meatbleed
@meatbleed Год назад
the pokemon tipping its hat for being defeated is so baller. wish they put that effort into it now
@frds_skce
@frds_skce Год назад
I'm more of a retro 2D Pokémon fan in general but I agree, old 3D Pokémon games are definitely banging
@JadeJuno
@JadeJuno Год назад
... I'm sorry to tell you this, but Old 3D pokémon games are retro now. The Wii is already considered retro at this point...
@frds_skce
@frds_skce Год назад
@@JadeJuno... So you just proved my points cuz I do love Black & White and ORAS as well
@scoutbane1651
@scoutbane1651 Год назад
@@frds_skce You said *but* I do agree, like the two are at odds. So no, they don't agree with you.
@kawashinimon
@kawashinimon Год назад
@@scoutbane1651 He didn't say "you agree with me", he said "you proved my point" which he did. Can people on the internet just chill for five seconds?
@scoutbane1651
@scoutbane1651 Год назад
@@kawashinimon I missed the part where they said mentioned liking *2D* games. If they implied they liked retro games and that the older 3D games *weren't* retro (with the but), they'd be in the wrong, which is what I tried pointing out. But they mentioned specifically liking 2D, so I'm the one who fucked up. My bad. EDIT: Hold up they edited their comment just saw seconds after posting lol. Was the 2D part there before? Well regardless, one of us fucked up, still probably me. Idc anymore.
@FlyToTheRain
@FlyToTheRain Год назад
you just dug up a very specific memory of watching my brother play colosseum and all of us acting out jumpluff's side to side animation while it preps a powder move.
@luvkirby4ever
@luvkirby4ever Год назад
Hahaha my sister and I absolutely loved Jumpluff's animation.
@Parrexion
@Parrexion Год назад
I've never reflected on how much work the camera does in turn-based games but those old games with good camera movements looked amazing even to this day. Who knew that all Game Freak needed was a good cinematographer ^^
@comyuse9103
@comyuse9103 Год назад
no way is that enough to save these crappy games. i appreciate the work a good camera can do, but there is just so much more lacking in pokemon.
@Fabiocean2000
@Fabiocean2000 Год назад
@@comyuse9103 What they need isn't talent. but time. Okay maybe a bit of both, but there's just no way you can put out a full fledged game every single year with such a small team and expect anything but a rushed product, no matter how individually talented that team is.
@foggyforest2625
@foggyforest2625 Год назад
Who would've thought Daryl will talk about cinematography one day...
@Roeclean
@Roeclean Год назад
Never
@JeffVan604
@JeffVan604 8 месяцев назад
Psych of Cam
@DaggersandDiplomacy
@DaggersandDiplomacy Год назад
I really love that we are talking about it in this way. The interesting thing about Scarlet and Violet as opposed to Legends is how the in battle camera works. The in battle camera has 2 settings, controlled and dynamic. The dynamic camera doesn't work under every circumstance which give us that weird "live" view of the battle. When the dynamic camera works it is great. I'm not to the end of the video and you might cover this. Sorry if that's the case. I am personally really enjoying the games. Have a good day all. Edit: Thank you for a great year! We will see you in January. Surprised that you didn't talk more about wrestling. Have happy holidays!
@SpiritOnAdventure
@SpiritOnAdventure Год назад
Darn, I've never seen anyone mention Library of Ruina in any videogame essays! Even if it was brief, it was pleasantly surprising as a fan of it. I just really appreciate it.
@Spiderrtank
@Spiderrtank Год назад
The music change whenever the Emotion Level rises or an E.G.O. page is used really hits the spot!
@LuckyMrAsHat
@LuckyMrAsHat Год назад
The minimal animations the game has in receptions (the battles), using camera movement to sell the impact of an attack is a clever decision. Ontop of using editing techniques like distortions and redness on the camera edges to imply blood splattering on the camera, both in receptions and the visual novel aspects, each hit feels bloody.
@kemmikemmimin
@kemmikemmimin Год назад
i literally jumped when he mentioned the game, the camerawork in actions are so dynamic even it's a simple looking turn based game and how satisfying attacks look in a fast pace when in action and shakes with different kinds of unique attacks.. project moon is really impressive and i can't wait for limbus!!
@sparkcircuit7029
@sparkcircuit7029 Год назад
Late-game spoilers for Ruina: Roland's Furioso card always struck me as the most visually impressive, though tbh the entire battle system is so fun to watch!
@johnwillbonagua845
@johnwillbonagua845 Год назад
Trueeee
@belot217
@belot217 Год назад
Watching other recent Pokémon games makes me appreciate PLA. The Strong/Agile Style slow-downs and the particle effects work make battles so much more visually satisfying than anything in the past two generations. Giving the player the camera gives more freedom to get a great shot.
@comyuse9103
@comyuse9103 Год назад
not to praise it too much, i think it is still a mid indie that belongs on gamejolt instead of coming from one of the highest selling video game studios ever, but they at least seemed to try on PLA in a way i don't think they have since the special/physical split.
@crystallion1269
@crystallion1269 Год назад
Something else I noticed playing PLA that, from the very first SV trailer made me upset... it’s the bare minimum, but for the first time since XY, when a Pokémon does a physical attack to another, THEY ACTUALLY MOVE UP TO THE OPPONENT*. If fate aligns, the animation will even make sense (Gyarados using Aqua Tail, for example, will go up to the enemy and smack it with its tail and some water. I think I’ve seen it go and use its tail for a “bite” move tho too... although it has a bite animation, I think? Not sure). I think this can attributed to the unique, actually open battlefield of PLA where both you and both mons can shift as needed. I also appreciated how the player, in being able to sidle up to your mon, will stagger if there’s enough movement, and how when your friendship is high, you and your mon angle your heads to trustingly look at one another for a little while, then turn back to battle refocused. It really immersed me in battles, from the simplest wild encounter to the game’s hardest challenges. The very first SV trailer, where a starter/Lechonk attacks, I realised we’d gone back to the dismal fixed, same old battlefield as literally every other mainline Pokémon game. Really annoyed me. It’s such a tiny step forward and THEY MANAGED TO PULL BACK FROM EVEN THAT. *At least I think it’s 99% of it, there may be a few odd specific mons/moves combos that don’t do this.
@cyankoopa8111
@cyankoopa8111 Год назад
@@comyuse9103 Are you saying they didn't try with gen 5?
@comyuse9103
@comyuse9103 Год назад
@@cyankoopa8111 yes. there was nothing mechanically interesting in gen 5 and the story that everyone praises it for is mediocre if we use any standard that isn't pokemon. gen 5 had better sprites, yeah? that is literally all i can think of that made it stand out.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 Год назад
@@comyuse9103 I think you miss the point that it's praised because it's the best story in pokemon, not the best story in gaming. Also, you must've skipped gen 5 because it's literally the only 2D gen where the sprites are fully animated and actually look good. Gen 4 is completely static and boring in comparison (also has a very boring story, only interesting thing being the physical special split as you said before) ALSO every trainer had animations, and Triple and rotation battles were introduced along with the Hidden Abilities that everybody loved and is somewhat relevant today. Also allowing the fusion of the legendary pokemon which was an interesting concept they never really tried again. Also the fact that it's the only generation that really tried something different with the flow of game other than the later Alola (which was terrible because the entire game holds your hand and is cutscenes) as the pokemon league is completely interrupted by a giant castle crashing through. There's just too much that gen 5 introduced and did exceptionally well compared to every other 2D pokemon game that it would be disingenuous to say there was nothing mechanically interesting in gen 5 when the previous generations pretty much only introduced 1 thing each. Although gen 3 was good, especially with the introduction of double battles, the best thing about gen 4 was HGSS, which aren't even gen 4 as they are remakes of gen 2.
@ElMedkit
@ElMedkit Год назад
I just want to say that I love your content and I really appreciate you. Since the first day that I came across your channel I always think about when are you going to upload the next and the last time that I genuinely get excited about a certain creator and not just browse the home has been years. I love how happy your videos make me feel and I just wanted you to know that Much love
@DarylTalksGames
@DarylTalksGames Год назад
Much love to you as well Medkit, thank you so much for watching!
@ThePurpleCheeseMan
@ThePurpleCheeseMan Год назад
THIS!!! I just want another 3d pokemon game where battles have the energy and excitement they used to. There's so much more to bring to the conversation than just animation, and from that very first comparison of camera work with Bite, I instantly got what you were saying.
@stevewalker1790
@stevewalker1790 Год назад
I actually think a lot of action movies use waaay too many cuts nowadays (even John Wick). It's difficult to follow what's meant to be happening. The worst I've seen is Quantum of Solace, which literally made me dizzy. But I do agree that Pokémon is firmly on the "too little movement" end of the spectrum and they're at no risk of overshooting the mark anytime soon.
@ceruleanrock2265
@ceruleanrock2265 Год назад
Yeah it’s basically a balancing act.
@Ignitehawk
@Ignitehawk Год назад
I really hope some developers see this video and take it to heart, because this is brilliant. I never even thought about camera-work in turn-based titles before, but now I think I'll be hard-pressed *not* to notice it. Thank you for the insight.
@claytune
@claytune Год назад
I ironically have never considered how important the camera is for battles in Pokémon games which I say is ironic because with the Pokémon anime I've often praised XY's camera work and said many times my biggest issue with Pokémon Journeys battles was the lack of dynamic camera work with the animation but I never even considered the camera work in the games and I never paid much attention to the camera shake in ORAS or the way it would show the trainer throwing out a Pokémon in XY so this video was really eye-opening into how important camera work is in general. Also, it was super satisfying hearing your breakdown of Persona 5's camera in battle because as the video went on with different examples I was already beginning to think about how the camera work added to everything and then you broke it down and gave me something else to love about that game.
@peteman9032
@peteman9032 Год назад
Amazing video, I’ve been a Pokémon fan practically my whole life and have sort of thought the “animations” issue will never get fixed, but this makes me hopeful for the future. I love the B-roll panorama shots and never even thought how simply moving the camera a tad during the action. Keep making awesome content!!!
@jasonreed7522
@jasonreed7522 Год назад
The animations issue is especially painful for those of us who played XD and Coloseum amd never realized they were officially spin-offs, and the even older stadium games which are in the same category. These "spin-offs" have very high quality animations and camera work that make them hold up very well even if their poly counts and resolution don't meet modern standards because they are 15+ years old at this point. (They also gave pokemon moves that they otherwise wouldn't learn or wouldn't learn easily, like spinarak gets signal beam so i thought it was an actually good mon, years later i learn its only like that on XD and he's actually trash without it.)
@yakumorisuke9403
@yakumorisuke9403 Год назад
This was amazing. I've been saying for ages that it's not really the animations that's the issue, but I couldn't put my finger on what it was. When you said 'camera' it was like a lightbulb went off. And yeah, P5 and SMT5 absolutely nail making turn-based encounters tense.
@yayorneigh
@yayorneigh Год назад
20:13 Legends Arceus actually incorporates this shift of attention in horde battles. If you hold ZL instead of click to switch targets, the overshoulder shot will focus on that Pokémon, placing them center frame, even while you’re moving.
@Kisher02
@Kisher02 Год назад
Man, crazy to think it's 2023 soon (and we still didn't get a release date for Silksong) I can't believe you once again found a way to compare wrestling and video games and make it coherent and understandable. Love your stuff and here's to an even better 2023!
@Bloodhoven
@Bloodhoven Год назад
you can pretty much compare ANY things to each other as long as there is a common denominator, in this case camera work/cinematography, which basically gives you the freedom of comparing "ice trucker documentaries" with "healing animations in RPGs"
@justjackorwhatever
@justjackorwhatever Год назад
This is why the battles in the XY anime so powerful, the camera is constantly moving and you feel the impact
@Dominik-K
@Dominik-K Год назад
This topic is soooooo dear to my heart! Camera work is highly underrated in games, and VR experiences especially! Better camera work for streaming in VR or virtual events, is what I'm currently interested in and this video really highlights important camera principles very rarely talked about. Thanks a bunch Daryl
@Aviplotbunny
@Aviplotbunny Год назад
I'm a relatively newer fan, but wanted to drop by and let you know I super love watching your videos. They're always thoughtful and they make me feel like I'm chilling with a friend. My P5 fan self might've teared up when you brought it up as an example haha. Hope you rest well for the end of the year, and looking forward to what you bring our way in 2023!
@orangepotato2112
@orangepotato2112 Год назад
Absolute banger vid Daryl, this year you delivered and exceeded all expectations and am glad to hear you felt you grew significantly this year. Thank you very much and here's to another good damn good one!
@JD-hb2wf
@JD-hb2wf Год назад
nice pfp
@orangepotato2112
@orangepotato2112 Год назад
@@JD-hb2wf thanks man made it myself
@ceruleanrock2265
@ceruleanrock2265 Год назад
@@orangepotato2112 is it Shulk from Xenoblade?
@orangepotato2112
@orangepotato2112 Год назад
@@ceruleanrock2265 yeah, with the new future connected outfit, glad you could recognise (since this is the only art I've ever made lol)
@charziard35
@charziard35 Год назад
Love the mention of the raid! That series has an excellent understand of motion and camera movement within action that changes it from just a normal fight, to an unbelievably intense bout. It’s what hong kong directors have been doing for decades too
@dominik94rausch
@dominik94rausch Год назад
Thank you for 5 years of being awesome! And for the content, but mostly just for your way of delivering the content. I like this new format.
@shinysnake
@shinysnake Год назад
I have never enjoyed sports but listening to how much and why you love them brings a smile to my face :)
@DistantKingdom
@DistantKingdom Год назад
4:55 hey that's me! this perfectly explained something I noticed recently about XY feeling far more intense than more recent pokemon titles, but couldn't put into words. the camera movements are subtle but they add so much it's kind of insane it's also what complements the animations of the older genius sonority games that deliver that crunchy, hard hitting, satisfying feeling of battles in those titles. Awesome video!
@erickzamora921
@erickzamora921 Год назад
Dude you single handedly made me appreciate so many different styles of expressing and interpreting art Thank you for being such a seamless and easy to follow while also being INSANELY encapsulating teacher. Loved your video
@miyamotomasashi5838
@miyamotomasashi5838 Год назад
That “forget to save before shiny encounter and the shiny decided to self exploded!”, the pain is real. RIP Shiny wild Forretress 😭😭
@RocketPropelledMexican
@RocketPropelledMexican Год назад
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned WHY the colosseum series cinematography differs so much from the other pokemon games. It's simply because those two games (colosseum and XD) *weren't made by Gamefreak in the first place.* They were made by Genius Sonority as a spin off title.
@NitroSpeedXX
@NitroSpeedXX Год назад
Listening to all the camera tricks that help sell the action of a fight and make them feel more dynamic got me thinking about how P5 actually does all of those, and is a big part of why the battles in that game feel so energetic despite being turn based. Seeing it being dropped as THE example of all of these being done right in a turn based battle system at the end put a big smile on my face. 😁
@simongotborg3866
@simongotborg3866 Год назад
Amazing video. Over my years in the games industry, I've gained more and more respect for people who pay attention to details. It's easy to notice the big stuff, but the big stuff is expensive. Often times the most cost-efficient changes are about the details, which get forgotten over time and need to be rediscovered by every new generation of developers. Resources like this video make it so much easier.
@RoninXDarknight
@RoninXDarknight Год назад
Persona 5 has such an amazing style...so many little things done very well all adding up into something truly special. Totally agree that more games need to take a heavy dose of inspiration from P5 for their own turn based battles. Thanks for the awesome videos. Happy holidays!
@rivp
@rivp Год назад
I haven’t played a Pokémon game, but this video really just highlights to me what that makes certain turn based games just feel so much better than others, even with similar artstyles and animations. Great video, and I can’t wait for the next one!
@coffeefish4743
@coffeefish4743 Год назад
I think Gamefreak and the developers know these tricks and probably want to include them and make the game look better. I feel like the blame should be placed on the pressure on devs to release a game once a year. I feel at least the slightest bit more time to fix some bugs that otherwise would be fixed a week after release or work some more on the camera in battle ; the list goes on. I just want to emphasise that the release schedule and higher-ups are the problem and not the devs. (edit) I also understand this video knows this.
@MrEnvisioner
@MrEnvisioner Год назад
As a hobbyist gamedev, this was SUCH a good video. You injected such extreme breadth and depth into this topic! You clarify frustrations that have hidden at the back of my mind for along time about the 3D Pokemon games; however, far more than that, you helped draw my attention to a totally different part of game design that I'd long forgotten about. When I was in college, I took an introductory Film & Digital Media course called "Light, Sound & Motion" that was ALL about how lighting, audio, camera work, framing, editing, & numerous other film techniques went into delivering the storytelling experience of visual media. This video really makes me wanna dive back into to studying all the fields I learned there in more depth because just reviewing the plethora of varying examples you gave makes it clear as day that they launch a product's quality to a whole new level. Especially that Persona 5 segment @ 24:52. It just makes it SO CLEAR. 😆 Kudos. I really can't thank you enough. It's self-evident that you put a stupid amount of effort into crafting this homage, and I seriously appreciate it. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays / New Year to you.
@Mysterygii69
@Mysterygii69 Год назад
Hell even active real time combat can benefit from stuff like this. Monster hunter pulls the camera back when big scary monsters are enraged sometimes or when risen Teostra is about to pull an electrode, all while you still have full camera control
@TheHeartoftheKing
@TheHeartoftheKing Год назад
Sakurai recently put out a video on his youtube channel about how he sold hits in Super Smash Bros Ultimate. It's really interesting to see how it was approached from a design and camera movement direction.
@KnightOfTheKey
@KnightOfTheKey Год назад
I've been following your content for a while now, and I just want to say that it has been a blast watching every video you make each month. Can't wait to see what next year has in store for us.
@WanOlDan
@WanOlDan Год назад
And here's the problem: GameFreak after watching this video: You know, he's right. We should probably take some time next generation and... The Pokemon Company: No!!! Merchandising schedule!!! 3 years between games OR ELSE!!!
@xjaireyes
@xjaireyes Год назад
monster hunter stories 2 combat, despite averaging longer per fight than pokemon, never felt too dragging because they implemented camera movement just at the right actions
@Andlekin
@Andlekin Год назад
Not to mention the monster animations were gorgeous. They typically are in monster hunter games. And not just the attacks. Walking, idle, and other animations are all "chef's kiss". Also, I think the battle system is waaaay more interesting.
@wiiuandmii7619
@wiiuandmii7619 Год назад
Okay, I have not finished the video yet, but I think one other thing you could talk about in regards to Poke sports is VGC, the literal sport of Pokémon battling. Gen 8 VGC uses a lot of really cool camera shots IN BETWEEN battle animations, just to fill time as the players input their moves, and it actually does a lot to spice up the experience. (Also how are you liking S/V?)
@Alchemyst326
@Alchemyst326 Год назад
No Daryl, thank YOU for 5 years. Seriously, your videos make me wish that I had the skills, drive, and ideas to make games just so I could implement the stuff you talk about. They make me look back at games I loved and go, "Oh THAT'S why that game worked so well!" and remember games that lost me halfway through and see how they could have done better. Even when I haven't played and don't care about any of the games you use in a video, your insights, clever writing, soothing voice, and incredible editing choices keep me hooked. Don't think I didn't catch how you said "add to that pool of tears" as the video showed the pokemon trainer walking up to an actual pool at 4:58. You do that shit all the time and I love catching it. You make incredible videos I get excited to watch every. Single. Time. And you deserve every subscriber you've got and more. If you're tired, go and rest. I'd rather have a one good video every few months than one rushed one every week, and I don't want you getting burned out. It worked for TeamFourStar, and I wholeheartedly support them not forcing themselves. So take your time, take a breath, and take a break. You deserve it. Happy holidays, and I'll see you next year.
@DarylTalksGames
@DarylTalksGames Год назад
Thank you so much! Thanks for noticing the little things, happy holidays!
@TheUziGunner
@TheUziGunner Год назад
Yo. I have been watching your content for a while now and I gotta say you're really amazing at what you do! You have a genuine knack for providing insightful information and combining it with good presentation, in terms of background footage, music, filters and many more. I always enjoy watching you as a viewer and as a creator, learn something from you every time that helps in further establishing my craft. Thank you for the great work and I wish you nothing but the absolute best for the upcoming year and beyond!
@biggrayalien4791
@biggrayalien4791 Год назад
I think a big counterargument to the counterargument of, "Well if all attacks look powerful, none of them do," is the question, where is the cutoff, then? Like clearly tiny baby attacks don't need the craziest animations. But those are _already_ the basic attack animations anyways. Splash, tackle, scratch, leer, tail whip, etc; almost every attack a stage or two above those use the _exact same animations_ . So again, where is the cutoff? What gets special treatment? Are 2-stage stat changes enough? 3? 4? Only 6? What about power? 50? 60? 80? only 120? And finally we need to realize that Pokemon is a multi-billion dollar franchise so they have the budget to make it all happen. There is no excuse.
@skoobzkb
@skoobzkb Год назад
You know I never realized how important camera work is for battle systems in games until I watched this video. Hell I love battles in Persona 5 but I never took account of the camera in that game. And now I can appreciate it even more. This is such a good video. I even hope that maybe in the future Pokémon Battles could have better camera work.
@lunitic_1948
@lunitic_1948 Год назад
Amazing vid Darryl! I really like the videos this year. It really felt like you were trying something new with the channel, and I love that. Your way of making videos is so good and I look forward to each upload every time. Can’t wait to see what you do next! Peace
@Nendonintendo
@Nendonintendo Год назад
I just noticed you uploaded multiple videos I havent watched yet, I just turned 27, it's 1AM and I consider these videos as great presents :) Thanks Daryl!
@INFERN0FIRE
@INFERN0FIRE Год назад
I don't agree that the disconnected animations of old, are necessarily much better. The seperarion of the attack and the hit animation also severely slows down combat. I do agree that the camera needs to move a lot more.
@rafaeltoyama7910
@rafaeltoyama7910 Год назад
Love you Daryl, thank YOU for these five years
@DouglasBurton
@DouglasBurton Год назад
Great video, literally excited to try some of these ideas. A side project was missing 'something' and I now think t's some of these camera movement tricks.
@toucandraws3959
@toucandraws3959 Год назад
Loved the video! I always enjoy seeing all of the different perspectives and examples surrounding a topic. Happy holidays and new year!
@DesignFrameCaseStudies
@DesignFrameCaseStudies Год назад
Great video buddy! I love how well you demonstrated the camera use. I totally remember how amazing Pokémon Colosseum was. The visuals and graphics are much better as well. I swear whenever I see a modern Pokémon game, the combat looks so boring. I don't trust nor support Game Freak at this point, but at the same time I can't blame Game Freak when people buy the games anyway. What else can they do when they release a game every year and people don't actually care about the low quality? P.S. Creator friend to creator. The first few moments of your videos are the most important. Starting with an ad isn't a good way to grab people's attention, so they're more likely to click off the video. You can mention the video is sponsored in the beginning but it has to be quick, a couple seconds. And then place your ad in the middle of the video. It's amazing to have seen your journey throughout the past five years. I got off to a rough start until only recently but you, dear sir, always had that fascinating psychology hook. Big love and support from me buddy. Merry Christmas!
@unkarsthug4429
@unkarsthug4429 Год назад
My biggest issue if they did this is that it would inflate battle times, especially giving shots to stat changes and status. If they did something like this, they need to ensure a middle option in the battle menu, where you still have some animations to distinguish moves, but you also don't have to bother with the long ones. An option like that could actually get pretty tricky, so I'd probably rather they leave cameras alone. I already feel like a lot of moves take too long, but it's helpful to have a visual representation of what happens, so it's annoying to turn battle animations off, although I do when I get irritated enough.
@Hetachan
@Hetachan Год назад
I never could put my finger on why I felt recent Pokémon battles didn't feel as fun and now I do!!! Hope you have a good Christmas :D hope to see more of your stuff in the new year!
@naithungoal609
@naithungoal609 Год назад
Much love, man. You've been incredible with each upload, and we're proud of the work you do. Enjoy your break!
@hanoli7933
@hanoli7933 Год назад
Nowadays games think its all about graphics, and while it adds to the game if ultrakill has taught me anything its that some genres can get away with "lower quality" graphics. I also just am a fan of pixel art, and it can add plentyfull to a game, i think the new games feel off rn because were not used to the smoothness instead of pixel art
@AndreaGiuseppeCastriotta
@AndreaGiuseppeCastriotta Год назад
Looking at the footage I noticed that in COlosseum the camera is locked to the Pokémon it is framing, more specifically to its Head animation Bone This way any slight movement the animation has is translated to the camera itself. This is very subtle but gives a LOT of dynamicity and life to the action, as it simulates eye movement when focusing on something Kinda neat, not gonna lie
@Wyrmshield
@Wyrmshield Год назад
This was great. I especially loved all the cuts in this appropriately enough and how they perfectly flowed from one game into another.
@dickgrayson1701
@dickgrayson1701 Год назад
Dude, you're definitively the most talented Gaming commentary channel for real. You've summed up so much. ERES GRANDE, DESDE MÉXICO
@amesstarline5482
@amesstarline5482 Год назад
I've always loved how the G5 sprites had a slight dance to them. Idle animations keep them mobile.
Год назад
Pokemon has a very unique issue which is how incredibly many Pokemon there are and how many different attacks they can perform. The old Stadium/Colosseum series really did it very well but I don't know if it is realistic to expect the current scale of Pokemon to be that involved. Especially with how Pokemon don't only have battle animations anymore, but roaming animations, behaviour animations, play animations, eating animations etc etc. Theres a lot on that plate nowadays. And before someone replies to this and says "but they have the money, just hire more people" just know that it doesn't really work like that. However, Japanese studios are often particularly against outsourcing so it would probably work to a certain extent if they would just get some help. I may be wrong, may be right but regardless I think its a point worth keeping in mind when criticizing Pokemon.
@speedslider3913
@speedslider3913 Год назад
Pokémon outsources much of its devs, and has been since X and Y to my knowledge. You don't release a AAA JRPG yearly without outsourcing! The reason they haven't implemented better cinematography in their games is because the game engine's outdated and not fully-understood since it wa made by a lot of contract workers who worked on their own small parts (and Game Freak'd core team already has had issues with poor programming since Red/Blue), simply none of the devs considered it that important, or there wasn't enough time.
@Chroniclerope
@Chroniclerope Год назад
I wish they’d outsource the Pokémon animations. Now that they’re going fully 3D, having a separate company create and update old Pokémon animations while the main studio creates the new animations for the new Pokémon and characters. Though I’m afraid the outsourced animations might have more character than the in house ones.
@Gnidel
@Gnidel Год назад
Also, the attacks will be animated anyway... for anime! Why not reuse animations made for anime for games? The franchise has unique challenges AND advantages.
Год назад
@@Gnidel The anime is 2D animated and storyboarded to happen a certain way while the games use 3D models and could have infinite permutations. It wouldn't work at all. There is no way to transfer that work.
@dynomite9524
@dynomite9524 Год назад
@@Gnidel Those are two entirely different mediums.
@Wevli
@Wevli Год назад
Great video. I was inspired and dived straight into my game, making the battle camera more dynamic, and it's really done the trick. There's a stronger focus on who is attacking/being hit, which helps the legibility of what is even happening (it's a 2v2 so it got a bit chaotic), and it helped the battle scene of looking down on battling cards look more exciting than it really is.
@lionheart4424
@lionheart4424 Год назад
What an amazing and beautiful video. I loved the good sense of humor and it is highly informative. As someone that has started getting into filmmaking and video editing I can say I learned a lot from you. Best wishes and I hope your channel does better this next year. Keep up the good work!
@frosif7751
@frosif7751 Год назад
I genuinely think they just need more time to polish up the parts that aren't as good, but can't because of a schedule bound by merchandise
@TimsGamesDoneHard
@TimsGamesDoneHard Год назад
As much as I love the idea of more dynamic camera work in Pokemon, it's clear why the camera, animations, and sound design have gotten more simple over the years. Programming for videogames keeps becoming more time-consuming (not sure if this due to graphics, programming for current gen hardware, or the scope of the games), while Game Freak has been adamant about keeping a small programming team. In an age of AAA games that fail due to teams being too large and being unable to coordinate properly, I definitely respect the sentiment to stay small. But a small team can't keep up with the current release schedule of these games anymore while getting the quality they want. Programming unique movement for the camera for every move is a lot of work with less payoff than, say, making sure your game isn't broken. Scarlet and Violet was notoriously broken, it's hard to expect visual flair to be a priority on the list of things Game Freak has to work on. Game Freak should really choose between hiring more people for their team (and not contract people out of house, which from what I heard is why the game was extra buggy), or slowing their release schedule to spend more time making the game they want to make. I prefer the latter personally, but both are an improvement over the current state of Pokemon. Once one of those things happen, then we can start asking for more exciting moment to moment action.
@waleedkhalid7486
@waleedkhalid7486 Год назад
This was a facinating watch. I’ve never considered the camera as something that was holding the games back, but you’ve convinced me that it is something that should be improved. I can’t I see what I’ve learned.
@zoltankotolacsi6892
@zoltankotolacsi6892 Год назад
Awesome video Daryl! I am relatively new to your channel, but I enjoy your content tremendously. Keep up the good work! Not a turn-based battle system I know but it has to do with camera and animation: I love the combat system in the new God of War games, especially the instakill animations. I CANNOT get over how satisfying it is to clothesline a dark elf. Just the subtle overcranking and the tinyest of crash zooms with just a few removed frames gives the perfect cruch to the move and it always makes me think that "Damn, I DO NOT want to get punched by Kratos"
@thescholarsjourney661
@thescholarsjourney661 Год назад
Him: "When you bring all these ingredients together, you get...." Me: "Persona 5?" Him: "Persona 5." *Take Over starts playing* Me: "HEEEEEEEEEEEEELLL YEEEEEAAAAAAH"
@KnightRush
@KnightRush Год назад
There's a dynamic camera option in DQ11 that you purposefully didn't turn on? Nice one
@ChiefOsutin
@ChiefOsutin Год назад
Yeah that part was kinda disingenuous...
@thepositiver9977
@thepositiver9977 Год назад
Yeah that was unfair to the game
@evanswindells5519
@evanswindells5519 Год назад
The new content is great! I love videos like this that make you rethink something you took for granted in games.
@bystander5347
@bystander5347 Год назад
Daryl, thank you for those 5 years. Keep up the good work!
@Rixitic
@Rixitic Год назад
Never underestimate the power of good cinematography! Major thanks for this video, and a shout-out to the tools game engines have nowadays to help with implementing nuanced camera behavior, like Unity's Cinemachine. It's nice that you mentioned "overcooking" camera behavior because I suspect an increased focus on accessibility was a big factor in the watered-down camera -- making sharper movements, heavy screenshake, cuts and wobble cam occur less frequently _does_ help reduce the risk of motion sickness, seizures, and just general disorientation for players. Most devs would allow you to configure the camera intensity in the game's settings, but to save development time GameFreak may be foregoing that bit of quality-of-life polish in favor of just taking the route that's blander but safer and simpler to implement. It's also likely that the pokemon themselves don't have as much that the camera system can hook into these days. In the Colosseum footage it seems like the camera tends to not just follow the overall movement of the pokemon but that a specific body part, often the head; for Stadium through Battle Revolution the devs had the benefit of fewer generations of pokemon and lower-poly models to animate, so they likely were able to kit out the rigs with control nodes or bones for focal points like head, mouth, hand and foot positions, places to charge attacks and fire projectiles from, etc. across the board and the camera could track those accordingly. As the scope of the series ballooned with more mons and more complex and unusual designs, they likely had to streamline the rigging process to compensate and save those details for starters, legendaries, and other major new pokemon and their respective signature moves.
@aepoyi
@aepoyi Год назад
been waiting for someone to make a video about this, colosseum holds a special place in my heart and I always felt like gamefreak hasn't been able to capture the magic of those battles. the lack of dynamic camera (or it becoming less), no creative solutions to hide the lifeless battle animations, just no innovation, I find myself going back to those early 3D games and be amazed at how bursting with life those battles were. battles should be fun to look at, not a slog to get through. sad they don't work with genius sorority on 3d games anymore, they obviously knew what they were doing
@ImPyroChad
@ImPyroChad Год назад
I love how you brought up Megami Tensei and I want to entertain that train of thought for a second- It's no secret that Pokémon's combat hasn't changed much since its inception but what HAS changed is presentation and that's what I feel the combat comes down to with Pokémon games. BW despite not having reactive sprites had stellar presentation compared to the 3D games, the combat, Attack animations, camera movement was all so fast paced and really went a long way in masking how lackluster the combat of Pokémon truly is when you boil it down which is something that you can't claim about the modern games; Despite the fact when you really look at it the attack animations aren't all to different from your standard Atlus Megami Tensei game. A game like Nocturne can get away with its similar approach to idle animations because of how they're presented with the camera movement, sound design and just the fact the combat in the game is really engaging, something most of the modern Pokémon games can't really claim. Imo presentation is the reason why the combat in a game like BW or SMT IV is massively more engaging than something like SwSh >_>
@HDGamerofficial
@HDGamerofficial Год назад
This video was amazing! So much passion went into this video and it shows!! Amazing job 👏👏👏
@JustiMeGames
@JustiMeGames Год назад
Curious if any of the issues with the stagnant camera have to do with needing to have battles take place in the actual world? The camera already clips and glitches like crazy with the one default shot, it might be even worse if it was cutting, panning and zooming all over the place.
@furiouscorgi6614
@furiouscorgi6614 Год назад
Maybe, but they could at least have it for full Battle Arenas like that for major story battles, the area designed for a fight there
@Asocial-Canine
@Asocial-Canine Год назад
Agree with most of the points here, especially regarding the more dynamic menu camera shots as they'd be much more prevelant and relatively low-effort to implement. But regarding the moves themselves, it's worth remembering that not only were Colusseum to Battle Revolution developed outside of GameFreak by Genius Sonority, but Stadium was made when there were 151 Pokémon, and even Battle Revolution, which had all Pokémon up to Gen 4, actually reused some animations and even models from Stadium (Look up Khangaskhan's model. It's Glorious). Making bespoke animations for each Pokémon, along with camera movement to follow them, would be a hurculean task for Game Freak, who *really don't need more work on their plate* if the recent game's any indication. Of course, limiting the scope of the game could be a good way of giving more focus to the animations. Colosseum and XD only had about 131 in total *between them*, which could explain how they had the ability to do such little details as having the camera bob with Golem's breathing. I'd love to see GameFreak do more smaller spin-off games like that, not only because the spin-offs were just better (fight me), but also so they can work on prettying up the cast piecemeal and have that work done for future releases. ...of course allegedly they already future-proofed the models for the 3DS games, and still cut the roster down for SwSh / SV, so I've no idea.
@speedslider3913
@speedslider3913 Год назад
This video wasn't about animations, dog (pun intended). It's about the camera, and how it functions in-battle. It should be noted that Game Freak has gradually added new animations to older Pokémon since Legends: Arceus, so it's not impossible for them to make better animations.
@Asocial-Canine
@Asocial-Canine Год назад
​@@speedslider3913 True, and thinking back on it some effects like following the Pokémon as it moves or a certain part of the model as it bobs around could be made procedurally, but there's still some level of tweaking that comes from that; telling the system what to track for each Pokémon, and verifying that the system works for every Pokémon. Or, if you do a camera shake as the Pokémon lands, you better make sure it doesn't happen for Pokémon that are flying/hovering in their animation. Also, he specifically suggests creating different camera motions for individual Pokémon. It mightn't be actually animating the Pokémon, but it's still creating something for each Pokémon, which is going to scale with the number of Pokémon there are. And that's the point I was trying to get to. Saying "GameFreak should do this" and ignoring how much workload that would require is just being unrealistic. Implementing some basic systems that can apply equally to every Pokémon and every similar action is a good thing, but saying things like "give all of the attacks the same treatment they give the big attacks" is ignoring the fact that only giving the big attacks special treatment no doubt saved time that could've been spent elsewhere.
@Chiquicheeta
@Chiquicheeta Год назад
This was a fantastic analysis and reminded me why I loved Colloseum so much!! Have a good one and see you next year!!
@yeetyeeterson5444
@yeetyeeterson5444 Год назад
I really appreciate you man, your videos are a great way to experience a new perspective on certain topics, and on a more personal level, your Closure video reminded me to go back and finally finish Final Fantasy XIII, which ended up leading to me playing Final Fantasy XIII-2, and loving both. Enjoy your break, and I can't wait to see the vid in January :D
@xBlackSunset
@xBlackSunset Год назад
Hi! As always this was an amazing video and you really hit the nail on its head! (not sure if that's a proper saying lol). Just wanted to say that for these past years I have loved your videos, from using them for school and eventually even graduating with having your videos in my sources to getting comfy on the couch with snacks and a drink to watch your videos. It has always been such a pleasure. The same goes for your livestreams, I am in a different timezone but if I have the opportunity and I get to the stream it's always a safe and such a fun place to be and for that I really want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I hope you have a great Christmas (if you celebrate it) and otherwise happy holidays. Take your well deserved rest and have a damn good new year. Much love!
@DarylTalksGames
@DarylTalksGames Год назад
Last I checked that *is* in fact a proper saying haha, so you’re good 😂 Thanks a ton and it’s a pleasure to have you here! Im so glad you tune in especially considering the time difference probably makes a lot of the streams really odd times haha. Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
@TimRomero
@TimRomero Год назад
Scarlet and Violet have two camera modes: the free camera, with minimal dynamism, is the default for open world battles. The dynamic camera is forced on for arena battles against gym leaders and such, and is *sometimes but not always* available in other battles by pressing the right stick button. Daryl’s given the game the fairest possible assessment in the video by showing the dynamic camera in a gym leader battle, but it’s worth knowing that you can (sometimes) make your battle camera a bit more dynamic by pressing that right stick button in battles.
@fabriciosensei8198
@fabriciosensei8198 Год назад
Thank YOU for this year Daryl
@crispx19
@crispx19 Год назад
I really think, Pokemon Battle "animations", is a gold mine of clips and examples to learn and teach about battle choreografy and animations. Its a big book of "do nots"
@seshjuan42069
@seshjuan42069 Год назад
Stadium, Colosseum and XD are the kinds of pokemon games I wish gamefreak could come close to making again
@xanaviii
@xanaviii Год назад
Totally agree. Stock/generic animations are a necessary compromise: we all know giving 900+ pokemon unique animations for hundreds of unique moves would be impractical. But you're right that there are definitely different options they can do to make it better. Quantity cannot be an excuse forever.
@heylookitscesco8698
@heylookitscesco8698 Год назад
You are awesome. Thanks for working hard on all your videos, they rock!!!
@KingNidoYT
@KingNidoYT 5 дней назад
This was a fantastic video. Could not turn my eyes away from it, and it articulates really well the feeling of the current state of Pokemon battles. A feeling that has left me being a large advocate for a *"New Pokemon Stadium"* to recapture and focus on that majesty of the battle.
@swalscha
@swalscha Год назад
I loved the topic you chose! It was really insightful to see the importance of a good camera setting. Thank you for sharing this knowledge and have a good rest. See you next year 😁
@snoovian7951
@snoovian7951 Год назад
Loving the new style of videos, this Is gonna be really helpful for my media studies class
@DamnCyrus
@DamnCyrus Год назад
Ah. I can't write a paper on this video about how good it was at addressing action and how it's shown to us. There are so many things that I remember learning that you touched on very well. I have been criticizing how static gameplay can feel in Pokemon (and a few other big names) now that 3D is the standard for so many years. Happy to see a good video at least addressing it. Great video!
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