The Weird Psychology of Shiny Pokemon 

Jesus.

Do you even sleep?!

Lol my friend got it on accident

Justice has infinite patience.

@@gamerhero9559 HE! Does. I need medicen too, We both get similar sleep numbers. I might be awake A LITTLE more. I feel like writing and talking writing, I know I'm good at talking writing, I'm usually bad at spelling ups/downs though.

( animal/pet death ) Man, I really relate to this sort of crystalized nostalgia. When my cat passed, the first pet I had and one I got as a baby, I named a meowth after him. when the same thing happened to another cat, I named an alolan meowth after him. stumbling on those meowths when I'm going through pokemon home always feels so profound. like a visit from the ghost of an old friend. and that's an experience so particularly pokemon

you have the save files backuped right?

to be safe you should back up the save files to protect them in case of corruption or loss of files

@@lupeylycan this is me with my cat stripes who disappeared a few months ago. he was an indoor/outdoor cat and very intelligent. his dad was a feral cat who got his mom pregnant while she was outside and he was raised around barn cats. he knew how to defend himself and could be gone for 2-3 days at a time but i would always count on him to come back. one day he just didn’t. incineroar always reminded me of him and the one who took his namesake now just means so much more to me

@@lupeylycan i named the event gmax meowth from sword/shield after my cat who went missing. it was special to Me, even if a bunch of other people also got it

I got a shiny Zigzagoon as a kid, I released it because I thought the star effect meant it was someone's released Pokémon... I thought I'd find it again because it'd go back to the same spot of grass if I was right lol

I found a shiny ho oh in gold on my fifth catch attempt as a kid and had no clue what a shiny was. I just tried catching it like normal, but it killed itself with struggle. Edit: grammar

When I was 8 or so, I had Diamond and was surfing Lake Valor trying to fish for a Gyarados. After a while of fishing for one without success (because I was using the wrong rod) I encountered a blue Psyduck. "Hey, that's weird... Psyduck isn't blue..." I thought to myself. "Maybe it's a glitch or something? Still, I guess I'll catch it, it looks cool" Hooooly crap am I dumbfounded that my dumbass self didn't kill it or run away. Still have it to this day

when i was 11 i found a shiny buneary in eterna forest but cheryl killed it with her chansey. i cried and if i could i wouldve smacked cheryl

Wow, shiny milotic is glorious.

And they say video games make you violent. How do you feel now about your choice?

@@imtheonewhoaskedlol disappointed but it makes for a funny story. I felt the karma come back when I caught a shiny Phanpy in the safari zone in Emerald.

that is so sweet, not wanting your favorite pokemon to suffer :( (even if it was a shiny and healthy, lol /lh)

This is adorable. Wholesomeness straight to the gut

Fake and stupid-

It’s not like you need stats on Pidgey though, you’re never gonna use it in battle

@@AshenDust_ Bruh stop ruining the mood You go, Butterismum!

In every Pokemon game I play I get super attached to the Pokemon I play the story with, even if they're not technically good. I have a box in Pokemon Home named "Retirement Home" for those Pokemon and I'm never getting rid of them.

History is also a form of unique value. Even if it is just relevant to one single person. Often the history around something can be much more rare and valuable than the thing itself. Personal attatchment and experiences to something is a valid form of value, but it cannot be shared with others.

this reminds me of when i managed to get my dad to try out shovel knight (my favorite game) on my switch. he barely got past the first level but i haven't deleted his save file because it's his

I never played gen 2 or even hgss, so I was able to form a personal connection to a shiny gyrados. It was caught on the plane ride back from vacation, and still my favorite.

@@raziphaz2219 Neat, I’m glad you got to experience that. I’ve gotten the red gyarados twice now. And it wasn’t all that special the first time XD So good for you, seriously.

I didn't even bother with the side quest for the shiny ponyta because it's just given to you.

@@morphstarchangeling8024 same here

Exactly, the red Gyrados is just a mandatory plot encounter so its no more special than your starter or the box art legendary. My first shiny was a zubat in pearl found in oreburg mine several years after release, its the first time i actually used a zubat and learned the value of golbat and crowbat. (Green zubat/golbat also look pretty cool)

Wise words! Thanks for the comment

I always shiny hunt to pass time and I do it while watching my favorite streamers do it too but this was an awakening amd now im having a crisis

That or you could play let's go and accidently get a shiny ______ while playing normally lol

Thank you!! It's so hard to find a healthy balance. I usually recommend doing easier hunts that are less time consuming (like sandwich outbreaks in SV) because you still can get a shiny (or 2... or 4 in my case with Pawmi cause apparently they love me lol) without completely destroying your life over it. I'll often throw on a show or movie while hunting too, and it can be really relaxing. That being said it can get addictive if you're not careful! I generally have a rule where after each big shiny hunt (like eggs, radar, ect) I'll take a week or a month off of shiny hunting before going to the next one. For SV I'll maybe do 2 or 3 hunts a week seeing as they can be done pretty quickly after a hard work day to help destress. The most important thing is just knowing when to take a break!!

Nearly anything can be like this man. Alcohol, smoking, drugs, food, gambling, sex... People become addicted to all these things chasing momentary highs. Personally I say life is meant to be enjoyed and as long as you are enjoying yourself then who cares? But take things in moderation and be careful because you will develop a tolerance to nearly any dopamine hit you can receive. Learn to delay the gratification and I believe you will be much happier. And most importantly happier people are generally seen as ones who have good balance in their lives.

Oh, that's...wholsesome. Thanks for giving me a smile.

It’s funny you mentioned SwSh because I accidentally stumbled across a shiny blue gastrodon. I consider it one of the “ugly” shinies because well it looks appealing than it’s original form. Did I love it any less? NOPE! I feel the same way about shiny Iron Hands, but it’s grown on me. Still shiny hunting for Iron Thorns and Klawf

That's interesting! I feel the opposite way. When I'm playing a game and I see a rare achievement that comes with a secret scene or a rare item, I feel bad that the developers made something that only 2.6% of everyone who played the game got to experience, so I try to go for it in order to pay my respects to the people who made my beloved game. And I feel a sense of community with everyone else who did so. And that's my excuse for why I got the good ending of Momodora: Reverie Under The Moonlight on insane difficulty.

@@SeppelSquirrel Same, when I get something, I recommend other people to have what I have. Because I wish to see the same excitement I have again.

@@cyncynshop "I want more people to enjoy things" gang rise up.

I totally get that especially with competitive games, took me a long time to find who I wanted to main in strive because my friend already mained the character that I initially really liked.

In other words, you’re insecure.

I've started doing more Pokedex completion and feel ya. I was so distraught when I thought I completed the Legends Arceus dex only to find out I'm missing Darkrai because I didn't have the Gen 4 remakes.

Artificial scarcity be like (Sorry, but long text ahead. Read it if you want.) If you're going to read this, I would greatly appreciate a comment with your point of view on the matter! its very interesting to see what people think abt this. But seriously, this type of problem you wrote about (where an item is unavailable forever) is such a big problem. It really promotes toxicity by serving as a stepping stone for trading and in-game economies. What made me laugh hard about the video was the intro: showing how people gave horse sh1t value because it was rare. They did not care if it was horse sh1t or not. I think that this shows how dumb in-game economies can be, because it shows that people really dont care about said item, only about the rarity. Rarity creates this toxic and unsafe hiearchy between the "rares", those who spent thousands of hours grinding for an useless item (the horse sh1t), and the "non-rares". I like the road Pokemon is taking: by making shiny Pokemon more common, this means that more people can get it, but unfortunately, to intentionally get a shiny pokemon, you need to grind, which is also extremely toxic by itself because grinding forces the player to spend inhumane amounts of hours on an item that can either be stolen or artificially injected. I agree with what you said completely. I find it so stupid when games force players to grind for an item that will never appear, like, then why grind for the first place? If the item is going to be gone forever, this means that you basically invested time on something inexistant (and yes, said item never existed in the first place because its *digital* - this is why I find grinding, trading and artificial scarcity in general very "abusive", because you are forcing the player to get a worthless, abstract item). Worth in videogames are basically people projecting their need to be rich, so they force others into this hiearchy to fufill their needs. Imagine a game that simulates real life, with poverty and such. This is what happens with *A LOT* of MMO RPGs, like Animal Jam. Yes, Animal Jam is a kid's game, but I am using a literal children's game as an example to show how toxic artificial scarcity is: If a child wants to get a certain item that is unavaible [and deemed rare], they need to grind for hours and hours on end until they can trade up and get better worth. The hiearchy between the rares and non-rares difficultes this step because... who would want to trade with someone who has basically no in-game worth? The worst part is that worth is EXTREMELY SUBJECTIVE, only serving to benefit those who have the rare items by making these even more rare, thus making certain prices skyrocket because of "demand", making it very hard and psychologically draining for the child to obtain. Lets not forget that said hiearchy I wrote about makes games VERY TOXIC: I remember very clearly being "bullied" by rares because I was just a starter in Animal Jam. I couldn't interact with people because I had literally no idea about worth. Imagine being bullied because you are "poor" in-game. WildWorks (the cruel, hypocrite and leech company behind this game) tries to dissasociate themselves with the fact that *their game is very toxic and unfair. They lie about having "no affiliations" with the in-game economy, yet they had people in their staff that would influence worth as a "game mechanic"* . Remember that these items can be forcefully removed from someone AND forcefully injected by someone. Lets not talk about the trading apologists.... Actually, I will. Its almost... cult like? I don't know, but the people inside trading communities are so weird: when someone loses all their items by being hacked, they go using the talk of "you'll recover your worth one day!", yet the worth the person lost had atleast 1 year worth of time spent. This smells like manipulation... for me, I guess. Other things is that they compare grinding to working in real life: I can agree to an extent, but they literally compare the useless item to an actual, existing, physical, useful item that can be owned. What I find toxic about grinding is because generally, when you grind, you gain money (e.g. jobs), but in videogames, you gain nothing. Only a bunch of pixels that can be hacked. This is what makes this comparaison shocking. *This isn't even all of the red flags* . Children, teens and adults are being subjected to this mindset. I don't really care if they like grinding: they should go grind in a singleplayer game instead of hurting others indirectly for your own idea of fun, because subjecting others into this inhumane practice is sad. You can grind all you want, but if the next person doesnt want to, then they have a right to not to. This is where scamming and hacking/genning comes into play. Because most people don't haver the capacity to get certain items, people use ways, that are against the rules, to get what they want. The only thing I constantly condone is genning, the artificial injection of a certain item into your game. Why? Because you're not hurting anybody - you're not stealing people's lost time, you are just saving time by not forcing yourself to go onto an unethical, unecessary path. However, scamming and hacking are always wrong and immoral. I remember one time that a country tried to make scamming in MMO RPGs illegal and that made me laugh A LOT. They are literally making the consequence illegal, not the root of said evil. This what I find funny - no one blames the greedy, leeches game designers, but instead the people who suffer because of them. I'm not even talking about attachement here. A lot of people here in the description are talking about how attached they are to a certain pokemon/item. Attachement can give said item an individual value, but not worth. Worth on inexistant items should never exist in the first place. *This is literally just the tip of the iceberg - we got lootboxes, items being sold for real life money and much more* .

@@gone9820 how did i know this was about animal jame before you even mentioned animal jam…i look back fondly on many of my past gaming experiences, but that one makes me a little sick. It promoted such rampant toxicity for a community of what, 10-14 year olds? Honestly i’m ashamed i even liked the game in my early teens.

This is also a frustration feature to me. It always upset me that I could never complete a pokedex by simple virtue of not being born in North America or Japan.

@@gone9820 I agree with a lot of things said here but man, go try to tell a digital artist or commissioner of said artists that their digital piece is "inexistant" (which isn't a word), "never existed" or "worthless" lmao

As someone whose favorite mon is specifically Shiny Mega Absol, I approve

@@roadsofar7989 I mean Abby isn't even Shiny, she's just been with me since before I lost contact with my best friend from the time

Absol has always been one of my favorites as well! Most are nicknamed and even now i go out of my way to catch one, even in showdown I'll use Absol over "stronger" dark types

I has a blastoist from fire red I brought up to pokemon y, it got wiped by accident and I lost her.

Same. Shiny Gardevoir for me!

Shiniest aren't work, they're special encounters. What you will have there is an idiot badge of time lost.

it’s been 9 months since you left this comment but did you get your shiny best boy yet?

I got a shiny giratina in alpha sapphire but reset my console because I like red and gold more than blue and silver ngl

@sleazymeezy by definition, to soft reset for a shiny is putting in work If it is stupid and a waste of time is a different conversation

Dude I spent a year on and off hunting for an alpha magnezone I understand the struggle 😂

get well!

A fellow Covid sufferer! I hope you’re doing alright

I choose the blanket, maybe i just perfer it ( i sweet easyly )

I named jared and im not giving him away

Why are you TRYING to waste your time

This

Well said and very important to keep in mind.

As far as I'm concerned, the fact that so many people seem to enjoy Ranni's questline so much is nothing but positive for me, because she's my favorite character. One of the very, very few in all of media I can personally relate to - I usually don't. So seeing her ending be the most popular three times over and the Dark Moon Greatsword be one of the most popular weapons in the game despite its off-meta status is nothing but upsides.

@@FelisImpurrator I have to say when I picked up Elden Ring I did not expect to fall in love with characters in such a short time like I did with Ranni, Blaidd and Iji.

But how do you decide what matters to you?

I think least favorite pokemon play into the whole identity thing in the video, too. Being the "person who doesn't like stunky". I'm a ledyba-hater, personally. But yeah, stunky's a super solid pokemon!

I was playing shield when he said that and I looked up at my skuntank and was thinking “he’s not that bad, wtf??” (Stunk/skuntank is my favorite Pokémon)

​@@Tw0point0hhave u played pmd 2?

I really only like shiny stunky because I like to think of it as "cherry" stunky, and it makes me giggle.

While that might be true for some, I feel like this holds true for a minority of games only. Often times achievements just cover the campaign / main story and leave lots of extra content unaccounted for, while others drift off to the other extreme and include a hilarious amount of tedious achievements which none but the most hardcore fans would even think of, if it wasn't for said achievements. Personally I think that - outside of really small games with a limited scope - it's nearly impossible for developers to really hit a sweet spot that feels "right" for all player types out there, as well as the devs themselves, simply because there are too many interest clashing. I feel like more often than not, achievements are either a hindsight ("Oh, we need achievements... just add one for every level") or used as some sort of meta-content ("Include achievements for 60,000 collectibles scattered around the world, so we can claim 200+ hours playtime") rather than being the essence of what the devs think you should have done to have fully experienced the game as intended.

At 17:50 he does mention that some people complete achievements as a way to do the game justice and show respect to the developers.

@@idjthesmart1363 right, but that's not really what I talked about.

@@patrickj It's true that achievements are definitely under exploited currently. Hopefully more devs realize their use and potential if more worked on.

@@TheOrian34 It does mention that achievements are more than just bling though, and "doing the game justice" usually means seeing all it has to offer.

*there's also the legacy tattoo and 1.0 goobbue mount

Don't forget the whole housing system as well. Even with the recently added lottery system, housing plots are really limited, though you can also get an apartment. However if you get an apartment as opposed to a plot, you won't have the ability to garden, a major feature for houses and method of gaining some valuable plants to sell. Or if you look on the side of free companies, the game's guilds, there's even more mechanics you miss out on if you can't get one of these limited plots.

I actually think XIV generally does a really good job not gating much content behind artificial scarcity, and it's something I really appreciate. Time-gated content, especially, makes me angry. I actually got into a debate about Feast rewards the other day with an FC member. He's very into skill-based rewards and likes showing them off, so he was vehemently against how several of them have been made available through CC instead. Like, sure, I get the appeal of showing off things you worked hard for. I actually stressed about farming gwibers when they were still relevant content, because oh no, they won't mean anything once Endwalker drops. But while I'm not advocating for skill gates to be removed, at the end of the day I much prefer collectables to be available to more people who can enjoy them. And if that means his hellpup or my Model O aren't as impressive anymore, oh well.

as far as live service games go, I'd say FFXIV is actually very good at not gating content beyond time limited events

NOOO

I've chosen the blanket too because it just seemed like more valuable according to the things he said about it. Comfort is much more important in a blanket than whatever characteristics a water bottle can have. (water bottles are not much different from each other in my opinion (I use a coce bottle and it is just as good to drink from as a premium glass one would be) but blankets differ a LOT) So yeah actual value and what is important to us can overwrite this phenomenon. In the chocolate bar vs mug situation I would always choose the mug since a chocolate bar worth one dollar max 2 but a mug starts at 3-4 dollars, so if they are both similar in quality a mug would always worth more, I can sell the mug and buy 2-3 chocolate bars from it. And yes I agree with you, being told that it is my water bottle now and 20 minutes passed is not enough for me to make a personal connection with said item. That's like being told that this girl you've never met before is your girlfriend/wife now and after 20 mins being asked how much you love your new wife. Connections takes time and being in situations together unless it's a gift or hierloom or something like that but then you had the time with that person instead whose item was that or who gave it to you.

Also, a mug is a permanent item you can continue to derive use from. The chocolate bar's value is lost once consumed.

I was immediatly attached to the water bottle

Valid and understandable, i also feel really connected to the pokemon is used to play whit the most in recess whit my friends. Lovely little creatures

right?? i just finished my playthrough of scarlet/violet. i have a special box dedicated to the pokemon i finished the game with (not just my 6 pokemon, but additional pokemon i used to prevent overlevelling lmao). i have shinies of some of the original 6 pokemon i used, but my OGs are just as special as them lmao. I've already attached so much labels to them! i realize ive done this more than i thought the past few games!

Sometimes having a big un is more exciting than a barely different color pallette

@@PredictableEnigma Absolutely :) I love the way they tower over the other Pokemon 😂

honestly considering how disappointing or bad plenty of shinies are a big garchomp is better than a sparkly one, less effort and tall!

@@glitchystaticzcap

To be fair, while kinda cool, that sounds like an absolute balancing nightmare...

@@patrickj It's not as unbalanced as it might sound, and the various formats go some way to levelling the playing field. In the Adaptive format both players offer up their decks to be chosen and check each deck list, then choose which deck they believe has the best chance of winning. If both players choose the same deck they then bid on that deck with chains, which are a handicap mechanic that reduces card draw over subsequent turns. Essentially, bidding for the highest handicap that you think the deck still has an advantage, with the player who bids highest being able to use the deck, but with the extra handicap on top. This promotes high levels of knowledge, skill, matchup analysis and adaptability over simply bringing a strong deck. Then there's the SAS rating system that can be used to balance games. SAS being a community developed deck rating system that assigns an overall number to the deck's perceived strength based on its various attributes, synergies and efficiency. Though not perfect, it still allows for pretty well balanced matches between decks of a similar level by enforcing "SAS caps" and has been developed and tweaked to keep up with current player knowledge. This promotes rigorous testing with numerous decks, rather than finding a perceived "best" and sticking with it. Then there's Tesla, a round robin tournament structure in which you swap between playing your own deck and your opponent's deck each game, meaning you ideally want to bring a deck that can be difficult to pilot, but that you have a lot of experience with and can unlock its potential. Close, nail-biting games are more common than you might think, and since there's no blog post to find the "best decks to play" it's often in your best interests to keep playing and experimenting, gaining skill and experience.

@@Slick_Tails I see, so it's the surrounding matchmaking and tournament mechanics that do the balancing, rather than the decks themselves. Sounds like a pretty smart approach, given the prerequisites.

@@patrickj Yep, that's basically it. When the game first released there was much more of a rat race for high level decks, and certain deck archetypes ruled the roost making for something resembling an established meta. Lots of decks were invalidated at the competitive level due to certain cards and factions reigning supreme. But as time went on both the game and the community evolved, with many players wanting to explore their collections more thoroughly in the competitive space rather than being pushed to play specific types of decks. Nowadays there are plenty of options depending on your preferences, newer sets have added complexity and raised the skill ceiling, previously dominant cards now have counters while many previously weak cards have become more viable, the "meta" (if it can even be called that) is extremely loose, and all sets see competitive play. The big shame is that many players dropped the game not long after launch and still have the perception of it being a pay to win loot box simulator, with people tearing through display boxes searching for aember rush and hyper steal decks. Not that it's surprising it happened, considering what is often seen in the world of TCGs, but the game's current state doesn't deserve the stigma of its early days.

How does the game actually enforce uniqueness? How can it ensure to have a completely different name and back for every single deck? Does it have a list of potential names that it picks based on its content or at random, or does it actually procedurally generate them on the fly? Any finite set will eventually have duplicates unless the size is so ungodly high that it could only have been built by a machine. The fact that your comment includes "cards that are from future sets that don't yet exist" implies that the game somehow has time travel, or that the anomalies are procedurally generated and that future sets include a curated set of past anomalies. The former is obviously impossible, while the latter implies that there is a finite curated list and also that the cards were designed entirely by a computer with no human oversight. After double checking, this seems to be a physical card game, which makes the advertised uniqueness even more dubious, especially since there's nothing stopping people from bending the rules in ways such as just photocopying the cards, or mixing cards from different decks even if the game officially doesn't want that.

Been there, suffered all the same

Why people insist on doing something slower that they could do faster with less effort and the exact same result, I will never understand.

@@angeldude101 because then the result is more satisfying

@@sonic_mvp_5112 Doing the same thing over and over again until I win the lottery isn't satisfying for me. It needs nothing from me except time, and my attention span is too short to offer that time.

@@angeldude101 there are still people who DO like it🤷

@@angeldude101 the new generation has no patience at all, It is a common trait, but still, winning the lottery is awesome at first because it is hard and you get huge reward. You might even be very exited to tell your friends. But when you win the lottery all the time and you dont care for the prize anymore, why would you be excited, why would you tell your friends? Getting a shiny before Legends Arceus (chance 1 in 4096 or 8192) was the most exciting thing that could ever happen to you, especially if you are a kid. It feels different. Those that miss the old ways know. Funny thing is that im not old lol (21), just started hunting when was very young after finding and killing shiny piloswine.

You can clone your pokemon in gen3 using the glitch in the duel tower and also in gen6 and 7 using a 20$ 3DS saves device. Or with a custom firmware 3DS. That’s how I do it, I transfer my pokemon forward, but I clone them in the Original game, so my Emerald Pokemon for instance stay forever in my Emerald save, but also are in the newest games or Pokemon Home. That has been a good solution for me at least, because I hated the fact that my beloved gen3 pokemon leave for good to the new games and can never come back to it.

That's even true for normal mons which is why I'm always a little melanchonic when I remember how Gen 1/2 mons were cut off from transfer. I lost all of my old mons because I didn't have the transfer Pak for Pokemon Stadium 1 nor did I have Pokemon Stadium 2 (I only had the first game). However, thanks to the power and convenience of emulators, I still have mons from my HGSS and Gen 5 days in Ultra Sun. Not all of them are optimal; the Togekiss that I hatched from the start of HG can't learn Nasty Plot, my Sceptile is a neutral nature, my Heracross can't learn Rock Blast for its Mega, you get the idea. But they were with me since back in the day, and I can't replace them. They even still have their ribbons that remember their Battle Frontier days. (Speaking of which, it IS a little sad that there's no ribbons for the Battle Subway, I spent so much time there with some of those mons).

WHAAAT I just finished Control today :O Also I've chosen the blanket too because it just seemed like more valuable according to the things he said about it. Comfort is much more important in a blanket than whatever characteristics a water bottle can have. (water bottles are not much different from each other in my opinion (I use a coce bottle and it is just as good to drink from as a premium glass one would be) but blankets differ a LOT) So yeah actual value and what is important to us can overwrite this phenomenon. In the chocolate bar vs mug situation I would always choose the mug since a chocolate bar worth one dollar max 2 but a mug starts at 3-4 dollars, so if they are both similar in quality a mug would always worth more, I can sell the mug and buy 2-3 chocolate bars from it.

@@FlareBlossom hehe I am currently trying to 100% Control :3 Also yes, Mug club let's go

@@avocadothecat aww you are really cute with the "hehe" and :3 smiley ^^ I started the DLC's today and I love them too, the foundation is really fresh with it's different scenery, I'm happy I bought them when they were on sale. I'm a game dev myself and Control definetely gave me some inspiration.

@@FlareBlossom Yes right?!

I'm also team blanket, but mostly because I just bought a couple water bottles like he described and you can use unlimited blankets - you can have guest blanket, you can have a couch blanket, you can have 20 blankets on your bed. There is a certain buffer to the psychological phenomenon he talked about when you just got or possess a superior version of something you are given. If it was a real water bottle, I'd probably just look for someone to regive it to anyway. You can only really logistically carry one water bottle without making sacrifices to what else you carry, so having one spare or lender bottle is enough for most situations

I don't usually grow attached to my pokemon but there were two in particular as of recently. A shiny dreepy on my first pokemon shield save file, I shiny hunted it and it was my first non-fishing shiny. I loved it and evolved it into a dragapult. Unfortunately the save file ended up deleted.. The second is a Sylveon in Legends Arceus. No clue why I like it so much, I just do.

Happened to me with a pikipek in Sun and Moon 😅 granted I wasn’t hunting, but it stuck with me to the end!

@@DarylTalksGames OMG YOU REPLIED!! Haha but yep, I hunted for a shiny pikipek too and honestly one of the most goated shinies imo :D

I think it depends on whether you place value on that rarity because not many people have that rare thing, or because it takes a lot of time and effort to obtain that rare thing. For me personally, I don't really care if everyone is hunting for shiny Arceus and a lot of people obtain it, because for me the value lies in that time and effort it takes to get it. Similarly to a degree you work hard for, sure there may be a lot of other people who have that same degree, but my personal value still lies in the time and effort I spent to get that degree. Other people may put a similar amount of time and effort into obtaining it but that doesn't lessen the value of my own personal time and effort I spent. At least that's where I personally place that value in.

Well obviously you never tried shiny hunting before... It's NOT fun. It's just pain, waiting, and mind numbing. And at the end of it chances are, 5 years later, you will NOT have that shiny. The odds are NOT in your favor. Don't waste your time. ~ The person who managed to get a shiny jirachi in case you're wondering.

While a lot of people might be hunting for a shiny. It gains the value because of the hunt and the time you put in. You know how long it took and having that to talk about is nice. Plus there are still the shiny Pokemon that are obtained randomly.

You have any idea how long shiny hunting takes? I personally think the insane amount of hours put in helps shinies retain their value. Work is being put in for it I’ve hunted exactly ONCE, (for Cobalion in Ultra Moon) and it took me a day and a half. And I was probably one of the lucky ones for that kind of time. I ain’t doing that again.

@@ShaySuveran I think it can be fun. Really depends on the method. I don't like the Masuda method for example and running in circles for hours hatching eggs. Soft resetting on the other hand is perfect if you're doing something else on the side, because you don't have to pay much attention or even move your stick around. Then there are more engaging methods like catch combos in Let's Go or Outbreak hunting in Legends Arceus. It obviously still takes a lot of patience and I understand everyone who says that it's simply not worth it. As someone who only recently got into shiny hunting, even though I hated Masuda Method when I tried that in SwSh, I can say that there are a lot of ways to shiny hunt and some may be more fun to you than others.

My husband and I played those games together too. I also introduced him to Rune Factory 4. He loved it so much he bought his own copy! I loved watching him as he enjoyed getting to know those characters. lol. We plan on playing RF5 once we get a Switch. It seems fun.

I'm slowly realizing that I'm doing something similar, I still haven't dropped or sold the first item I ever collected in Elden Ring. First enemy dropped a basic sword and I've kept it on hand the ENTIRE time.

Masuda Method shinies can have good stats while still requiring the effort of breeding... their parent Ditto is usually hacked though lmao.

@@milesmartin9624 yeah I tried that I think I gave up pretty earlier. Like 30 or 50 eggs. When I realized I may have to do this 200 times I was like yeah no I don't need a shiny. Thanks to that shiny perfect iv ditto I got my start on training a more "perfect" team.