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Flames of War Battle Report - Bargration Germans vs. Soviets! 

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Happy holidays and Merry Christmas! Here is our next battle report. This time Jake is taking a list from the upcoming German Bagration book featuring Elefants while Jon takes a Soviet Hero T34/85 battalion supported by IS-2s.
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@tzaandor
@tzaandor 3 года назад
Speaking of Brutal, the IS-2's gun makes infantry and gun teams reroll successful saves against it. Could've made a difference that turn Jon almost got those 88s. Edit: Another important thing about Begleits/Tankodesantniki - Infantry can always ride on tanks, it's a basic rule that's often missed. The unit/command card upgrades just makes them do it better than if a regular rifle platoon decides to hitch a ride. Keep up the good work, you guys rock!
@friendlyperson2210
@friendlyperson2210 3 года назад
It was really fun to watch, the elephants were the best part.
@tomdudley5314
@tomdudley5314 3 года назад
Thanks for the BR guys! Good to see Jake with some good dice for a change!
@reddragontabletopgames
@reddragontabletopgames 3 года назад
Great report, thanks a lot! Merry Christmas!
@matthewmitcham1999
@matthewmitcham1999 2 года назад
as a younger aspiring historical wargamer it is refreshing to see someone playing who isn't over 30.
@Link2edition
@Link2edition 2 года назад
I started in my early 20's and its true. You go to conventions and most players are between 2 and 3 centuries old. I turned 30 last year though, so I guess I am not a great example anymore haha.
@philRminiatures
@philRminiatures 3 года назад
Nice report, lovely table!
@gregobobotto6502
@gregobobotto6502 3 года назад
Great report 👍 The table looks great, the units are well-painted, a treat for the eyes :) The German Bagration book sounds pretty cool, new units to try out :)
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
Many thanks!
@rcgunner7086
@rcgunner7086 3 года назад
I noticed that as Jake was mentioning that the Elephants were "unkillable" that you aimed the camera at the Sturmoviks, Jon. Trying to say something there? Maybe some foreshadowing? : )
@weirdwwii8775
@weirdwwii8775 3 года назад
Great stuff
@alphanerdgames9417
@alphanerdgames9417 3 года назад
Great br guys! I wish my table looked as good as yours!
@HeadCannonPrime
@HeadCannonPrime 3 года назад
Love the assault battalion! I'm actually building one right now. Cool to see how they work.
@paulwestern3687
@paulwestern3687 2 года назад
O for awersom guys..... Keep the games goin...
@PeldiraS
@PeldiraS 3 года назад
Great Christmas report guys! Very happy to see Bagration forces and scenario. Really nice! And although the regular mistakes were done, it didn’t really matter to the general result. Commander can only jump to core formation units and not support, then 3 + last stand for Russians in general, and then the Brutal reroll on the IS-2’s. But thank you very much for the content, very nice videos! Great Job!
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
Thanks! And we will get these rules down eventually.
@memorarenz
@memorarenz 3 года назад
Looks like that smoke card is almost an auto include.
@kapanmaszyny470
@kapanmaszyny470 3 года назад
Merry Christmas
@saintgordon338
@saintgordon338 3 года назад
Fun to watch, as always. Just a question: did jake use 2 dice for shooting with a StuH42? dont they have only 1 dice with the main gun?
@danielneal264
@danielneal264 3 года назад
Great report - feel like this was some really strong German dice rolling plus just about a perfect scenario for the list, no reserves, plus being lengthwise on a table is the ultimate situation for Elephant/Stug combo. Personally would love to see this German list rematch mission against Jon's choice of D-Day Americans! Is it just Soviets, or is this German list/table/mission combo too strong? Also love the idea at the end of having Jake take attacker role and use Stug Begleit as intended!
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
I would love to test this book and the new models against the Americans and British!
@Anvilarm07
@Anvilarm07 2 года назад
Great batrep. I'd put the Elephants in the woods so they are less vulnerable to Sturms, and smoke for the Russians so they can get off a good charge to try and get those 88s before they get the JS1s. Great paint jobs on the armies too.
@HeadCannonPrime
@HeadCannonPrime 3 года назад
Each shot has roughly 2.77% chance to damage the plane. Mathematically you need 37 shots to average 1 plane kill. 2+ saves ruins games IMO because it wrecks distribution curves. It takes a reasonably hard task (4+ followed by 5+, 16.6% chance) and turns it into a statistical anomaly
@KayRayz86
@KayRayz86 3 года назад
Damn... You guys awesome... Good games.
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
Thanks man!
@KayRayz86
@KayRayz86 3 года назад
@@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall You welcome. Most welcome.hope you guys can play Stalingrad,Kursk and operation market garden
@maxlar7159
@maxlar7159 8 месяцев назад
39:30 shouldn`t you reroll that save throw due to IS-2 gun being brutal?
@johnsiringo4032
@johnsiringo4032 2 года назад
Wow! I lived long enough to see Jake roll well! Take those dice out for one wild party!! Tough set up for the Soviets! John that is the worst dice rolls ever?
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 2 года назад
Ah, you win some you lose some. I'm sure I've rolled plenty of worse dice :)
@wagonmaker5509
@wagonmaker5509 7 месяцев назад
at 21:06 why are you rolling firepower tests? they lose shield when moving at dash speed. and they moved with road dash.
@buckledcarcass
@buckledcarcass 3 года назад
What did you use for the improvised foliage on the Stugs? It looks great.
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
While I didn't paint the germans (I'll pass on your compliment) I believe the product is from SIlfor
@jediknight73
@jediknight73 Год назад
Wish I had the money to get into this must cost a fortune and allot of time painting
@fuzztsimmers3415
@fuzztsimmers3415 3 года назад
question about flames of war how do you build early war french when i cant find a book for them
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
As of right now you still have to use the old V3 Blitzkrieg book and the EW conversion info for V4.
@johnsiringo4032
@johnsiringo4032 2 года назад
I have a question, where did you acquire the hills you use in your desert battles? i have searched in vane for months to find them. Regards John
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 2 года назад
Are you talking about the Wadis? I made those years ago. Here is an old Blog entry about the process to create them. buckaroo13.blogspot.com/2011/11/fow-terrain-like-sand-in-hourglass.html
@johnsiringo4032
@johnsiringo4032 2 года назад
@@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall Thank you as always for taking the time to respond to my questions, I can not imagine how busy you must be between all of your projects. I am sure many of us are thankful that you do not get a case of burnout! The Wadis blog was exactly what i was looking for and am surprised they are not available commercially. Are you looking for another project in your spare time? LOL
@davidmartin9060
@davidmartin9060 3 года назад
I'd like to see you run jagpanzer4/70, please.
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
Jake ran a platoon of PZIV/70s in our December Patreon battle report. We do plan on them appearing again now that we have a lot more of them. I'd like to try a Company of them.
@wagonmaker5509
@wagonmaker5509 7 месяцев назад
at 24:31 for all you who do not play wargames this is mandatory. wargaming commandment rule 3.
@alphanerdgames9417
@alphanerdgames9417 3 года назад
I was under the impression that if part of the stand/tank was visible outside of the forest it does not get concealment in version 4.
@BurningBridgesWargaming
@BurningBridgesWargaming 3 года назад
That is correct Alphanerd, the thing with leaving a part out of the woods are a V3 leftover.
@alphanerdgames9417
@alphanerdgames9417 3 года назад
@@BurningBridgesWargaming it is so hard shaking off the v3 indoctrination I had.
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
You are right, of course. This is something we pretty much house rule as it's so ingrained from V3.
@alphanerdgames9417
@alphanerdgames9417 3 года назад
@@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall It all runs together for me. I don't think a game goes by with out someone using a v3 rule and we have to catch ourselves.
@jasonbrannock1698
@jasonbrannock1698 3 года назад
It's a cool game y'all played.when is the video on the jagdtiger??? That's the first armor I ever bought. J
@BStenlund
@BStenlund 3 года назад
it looks like battlefront will not release the Jagdtiger/Tiger 2/ Jagdpanther before november next year, it's a long wainting
@jasonbrannock1698
@jasonbrannock1698 3 года назад
@@BStenlund thanks for the info, Merry Christmas and a happy new year! J
@BStenlund
@BStenlund 3 года назад
Glad i can help 🙂 My gaming group have made house rules for the kt, but it would be nice to have real rules Merry christmas!
@waynekozik525
@waynekozik525 3 года назад
What green did you use for your Russian tanks thanks
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
Left Camo Green from Vallejo. I did a whole painting tutorial on these if you want to check it out. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PpGqO408GaM.html
@bruce3654
@bruce3654 2 года назад
What are you using for those wheat fields?
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 2 года назад
Door mat from Ikea
@prussianblue3144
@prussianblue3144 3 года назад
Hey! I have a question about the Radio Operator unit. Online and the rule book haven’t helped at all and I like how it looks (Hit the Beach set) and I can’t find out if it does anything, which would make taking a Panzerfaust instead just a better option right? Great Battle report as always!
@saintgordon338
@saintgordon338 3 года назад
Radio Operator unit? Sure it is a unit in V4?
@prussianblue3144
@prussianblue3144 3 года назад
@@saintgordon338 it's a model for Infantry They are often put on a base for Commanders or 2iC alongside the typical Officer and NCO. Though for Germans they can also put a Panzerfaust there instead and idk if the Radio Op actually does anything
@saintgordon338
@saintgordon338 3 года назад
@@prussianblue3144 ah, youre talking about the actual model. the model has no impact on the geme. so its just a matter of taste what you put on youre base.
@prussianblue3144
@prussianblue3144 3 года назад
@@saintgordon338 ah okay I know the Panzerfaust has an effect so I didn't know if the RO might, thanks
@saintgordon338
@saintgordon338 3 года назад
@@prussianblue3144 The Panzerfaust has an impact on the game if you buy it for your unit by game points in your list. the actual model is just a detail but not game relevant.
@martinekdahl2698
@martinekdahl2698 3 года назад
how did u get the book so erly ?
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
BF sends out review copies early to some review websites and youtube channels
@bernhardholmok9950
@bernhardholmok9950 3 года назад
smoke is a requirement for Soviet attacks. the elephant and 88s would only have 1 turn before being overwhelmed ( unless deployed further back). Soviets need to dash like crazy to punch through the German lines; losses be damned
@Mooglewut
@Mooglewut 3 года назад
Looks like about a 5.2% chance he killed one single IS2 from that shooting; killing both being immeasurably small chance, as far as dice wargaming goes.
@zoneofattack1843
@zoneofattack1843 3 года назад
Elephant's had no anti infantry weaponry so they were easy peer for infantry assault Also next time attack on a narrow front in depth result will be a lot different
@blkjet117
@blkjet117 3 года назад
It was the Ferdinand's that had no anti-infantry weapons. The Elephant's were improved with a hull mounted MG.
@BurningBridgesWargaming
@BurningBridgesWargaming 3 года назад
The Ferdinand didn't have any MG's. The improved version(the Elephant) had a hull MG.
@siccreations1287
@siccreations1287 3 года назад
I make some super nice hills and would like to get you some, hit me up.
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
Sure! I'll get in touch on FB.
@blktom
@blktom 3 года назад
Oh Jake... AA gives you a chance to shoot down planes, no AA gives you no chance. So does that new book have Hetzers?
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall
@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall 3 года назад
It does have Hetzers! looking forward to the new plastic kits
@blktom
@blktom 3 года назад
@@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall Think you guys would be willing to give them a try? I use to have a Grey Wolf Hetzer list and I have been waiting a /very/ long time to be able to use my Hetzers again. Course I also use to run cruciform PaK 43s to take care of the heavy Russian stuff and I saw in your sneak peak of the book that they are not available yet. Well, Hetzers seem to be cheap enough to mix in heavy AT in some form.
@theNikonGuy
@theNikonGuy 3 года назад
Have you moved house?
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