Flat Earth: A Measured Response 

I don’t recall who said it, but a wise RU-vidr once said, “You don’t have to be mad at some invisible shadow government. You can just be mad at the actual government.”

Government secret plans be like: Step 1: convince people the world is round. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit.

The funniest thing about this video is hearing Hbomb call a 45 minute video “too long”. He really had no idea.

The only thing flat earthers fear, is sphere itself.

uuh, actually H. Bomber Guy, the Earth is, uuh actually Boomerang shaped, that's how it flies around the sun.

Perhaps the real flat earth was the friends we made along the way.

My dad watched a documentary about flat earth “scientists” and said it was one of his favorite documentaries ever because everyone’s experiments to prove their beliefs failed and they just went “we will have to try again later” and the documentary ends just being like “so the earth is obviously flat” while literally everything you just watched proved the opposite

Being confronted by a random flat earther and casually saying "is this really happening?" is such a hilarious own

People who is on the conspiracy: -Every space agency. -Every inteligence agency. -Every astrophysicist. -Every astronaut. -Every astronomer. -Every airline company. -Every ship company. -Every cruise company. -Every shipping company. -Every company with an operative satelite. I think it stops being a conspiracy when you're the only person in the planet that is not in it.

My favorite bit of flat earth lore is the concept that gravity doesn't exist, and we're only stuck to the earth's surface because the flat disc is moving upward really fast

I watched the Flat Earth documentary on Netflix a few years back. It was infuriating, yes, but after a while you started getting attached to the little buggers. They were trying so hard, they even actually did an experiment! The experiment didn't work because it was poorly planned out but they tried! And there was this little unrequited love story and then they all had a con together and they were so happy and I was like "You know what? Good for them. Who are they hurting?" ... And then they started talking about antivaxxing, being homophobic, transphobic, antisemitic and I was like oh yeah. Right.

My favorite thing about the Patricia situation is that one piece of evidence they cite for her being CIA is that her name is PatriCIA

Take him to the edge, boys. He knows too much.

Have you ever considered that IF the Earth was flat the Edge would be the greatest tourist attraction on the " planet "

My favorite response to people who think they hired Stanley Kubrick to fake the moon landing is that Kubrick's notorious perfectionism resulted in them actually going to the moon so it would look right.

Fun fact: Greek scholar Eratosthenes chanced uppon the neat fact that once a year in Syene (an Egyptian town), the sunlight would reach the bottom of wells there. This is interesting, because that NEVER happens in Alexandria. Using this info, he measured how far Alexandria is off the full zenith in Syene (an angle of 7°), and so calculated the curvature of the earth, and subsequently made a calculation of the full circumference of the earth, which was only 5% larger than the modern accepted value. He did this in the 240s BCE.

The pride flag isn't straight lol

I just realized that the only reason someone would assume that the moon shoots cold beams is by thinking "well the sun shoots beams that are hot, so the moon must do the opposite" like this is Avatar the Last Airbender or something

I still cry laughing at that one image of the meteor hitting the "disc-world" and flipping the dinosaurs into space like a catapult.

I like how airlines have fake flights just to mess with a specific group of flat earthers.

The earth was originally a cube but over time the corners were rounded by the relentless wind of the universal ether.

As an Australian I'm deeply offended nobody brought up that we don't exist, and that i'm not being payed to pretend to exist

to cut a 10 page story short; my mother raised our family as flat earthers and conspiracy theorists (a whole fucking bunch of different things because flat earth is just a gateway for that), i managed to break out of it some years ago and now they hate me for it. It doesn't matter what you show them, you could literally strap them on a rocket and go to the moon and they'll say "this is fake", they are so deep into their beliefs that they will make up anything to fit their narrative. They are ignorant, hypocritical and frankly obnoxious. I hate whoever convinced my poor gullible mother and changed all of our lives for the worse.

The fact that Logan Paul was a flat earther somewhat supports my assumption that the Pauls are actively trying to make humanity less intelligent

As an Australian I am greatly offended by the suggestion that Qantas is competent enough to help uphold an international conspiracy.

Um actually sobek didn’t literally have a crocodile head, it was supposed to represent both his crocodile and human form simultaneously. Entire video disproven, earth is actually flat

I think that the most definitive proof that the earth is round is the fact that if it were actually flat, said edge would be commercialized to hell. You wouldn't be able to stop people from trying to sell the experience of going there.

"Anywhere in this hemisphere." Anywhere in the hemi-what, Mark?

“There’s no direct flights from Australia to South America.” sees direct flights scheduled from Sydney to Santiago “That’s not real.”

The Internet has taught me that as soon as a guy says Female in a non-scientific context it's time to ignore all the words that follow if you don't want your ears to bleed.

Got approached by an elderly flat earther on my college campus once. He completely ignored me(nb) and talked exclusively to two women studying for a physics exam. He demonstrated his point with a Mario figurine and a stress ball. He went on about the horizon thing. when the two women demonstrated that they could prove mathematically that he was wrong, he claimed their math teachers were in on the conspiracy and fled.

It's so weird to see footage of Abigail's missing brother Oliver all these years later. I wish Abigail all the best with her acting career.

Yeah, but you've got to admit having the north pole at the center of the earth explains a lot about how Santa Claus can visit every house during Christmas night

The HP Sauce ensures my harvest is plentiful and my sperm is neverending.

You know, watching someone joking about and debunking flat earth suddenly get serious and become angry that all these men are harassing a women just because shes a women is honestly kinda heartwarming.

What baffles me is that you can see that the world is round just by going to any port in the world and watching a ship literally dip over the horizon.

“Society utterly fucking collapsed when I wasn’t looking or something” new favorite RU-vidr quote right there.

Only a few minutes in, but I feel like pointing out that the Maya not only knew the Earth was a globe, but actually accepted heliocentrism long before Europe. In my translation studies class we actually looked at some pretty funny documents where Mayan translators were taking Spanish models of the universe and adding pretty funny commentary that boiled down to "these guys actually believe this shit lol."

My favourite way to defuse or at least fuck with conspiracy theorists is to propose and even more insane theory, “The moon landing was faked-“ “You really believe in the moon?”

I was tought in Sunday school that that one Bible verse that says gods love for us spans "as far as the east is from the west" was an argument for the global earth, because you can go east forever and you can go west forever, without it ever changing (like gods love or whatever). But you can only go north so far before you're going south, and vice versa. My catholic-adjacent church argued for science in this case. Just an interesting bit to share.

Correction: Y'all been duped. They're actually saying FLAC-earthers. The earth is just one high quality audio file that God listens to while he does his sit-ups.

Every time some flat earther claims that they "rely their eyes" to confirm their claims, all I can think is "objects in mirror are closer than they appear".

Wild to say "The Egyptians knew the Earth was flat and did things that we still cant do today!" when Egypt was very likely *the first civilization to prove the Earth was round*, when Eratosthenes sent two hourglass to Alexanderia and Syene to measure the shadows of tall buildings.

"There are no systems in place to prevent another massive financial crash" - Hbomberguy, 2018. Five years later, and this quote has aged like a *fine wine*

"There are NO direct flights from A to B" "Yeah there is, here" ".... that one doesn't count"

Hail Sobek

Absolutely maddening that upon finding evidence that he's wrong he just simply says "I don't think those are real". Literally evidence from the same source he's using to prove that he's right. Really sums up the mindset of the entire movement. There really is no arguing with these people, they're just too emotionally tied to whatever they believe that nothing else matters.

Getting my hands on a crocodile was hard enough, what with the EPA being on my case, and the transport and everything. The oil for mummification on the other hand was pretty easy, I got my contacts with Wiccan apothecaries who could mix up a batch in short notice. I had to spend a few grands on the linen to wrap up the corpse, too, but at least that's the most legal thing to acquire. It took me a lot of time and effort, but fortunately I was able to perform the ceremony properly and appease Lord Sobek for this year. Just saying, you're all welcome. Maybe one of you wants to pick up the slack later on?

"Flat Earth, neo-Nazi, vegan rap" is such a god damn sentence

To quote my religious mother: "if the earth was flat, cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now"

It took me a second to realize why there was a bearded man being referred to as philosophy tube. Then I remembered Abigail's brother used to run that channel.

I just want to point out that a Ancient Greek guy figured out the shape/size of the earth using 2 sticks and a well

I live in Washington and I've never personally seen Mark Sargent in person so basically what I'm saying is that I have serious doubts that he lives in Washington or is even real at all.

The flat Earth movement is so last year. I believe there's no Earth

PhilosophyTube with he/him pronouns, hbomberguy with hair. It was a different time 😂

Roboticist here, there is a way to perfectly correct fisheye, and we do it all the time in computer vision. it can either be calculated from the optics inside a camera, and a whole buncha linear algebra, or by calibrating against a known flat line, as you noted. The particular calibration is called the intrinsic martix of the camera, and im willing to bet that if you look up that particular camera's intrinsics, there will still be a curved horizon. Props for doing your research, im perpetually impressed!

"Don't wear this shirt in public, no one will want to be your friend." No, certain people WILL want to be your friend, which is actually worse

New Theory: The Earth is a compressed jpeg file on god's Windows 94

This is like watching Doctor Who and I'm seeing a different incarnation of the Doctor

My husband (physicist) always got extra enraged by this stuff, and now as I (a digital artist) see them "proving" their bs through misunderstanding photoshop I GET HIS FURY

“I don’t think those flights actually exist” Well I guess I dreamt flying for thirteen hours from Johannesburg to Sydney and noticed nothing but ocean.

an old friend of mine that i hadnt seen in a long time became a flat earther after an out-of-body experience at coachella. i talked to her about it for around an hour once. it was a frustrating conversation (she used rick and morty metaphors to explain her worldview no less than 3 times) but it was very illuminating, although not in the way she intended. when i asked her what nasa would possibly stand to gain from convincing everyone that the earth was round, she told me "they want us to think that we're nothing. they want us to think that our lives are meaningless because we're just tiny insignificant creatures floating on a tiny insignificant rock in the middle of an infinite universe so that we don't realize we deserve better and try to rise up against their conspiracies." that was the first time i really saw what draws some decent people to flat earth and other similar conspiracies. it's just existential dread. they can't stand the idea that they might not be important to the universe when it comes down to it and these conspiracies give them a reason to believe they're part of some big mission that will ultimately give them importance. it's quite sad, really. after that, i talked to her for a while about how for me, the idea of living in an infinite universe gives life so much more meaning than the idea of earth being the center of existence, and how the idea of amazing things in the far reaches of space and the unexplored minutiae of earth make me want to keep living because there's so much to learn and so many wonders to discover. at the end of the conversation, she said she needed to think about the things i'd said and reevaluate some stuff. i know this is a very r/thathappened comment, but you'll just have to take my word for it. it's a true story. i know it doesn't sound like one because i could hardly believe i had had that conversation myself, and i don't mean to make myself out to be some kind of wise sage leading the blind. i'm just really devoted to empathy and seeing why people believe the strange things they believe, which makes people with fringe worldviews more open to talking to me, even though i disagree with them. i find it's easier to make change that way. idk what exactly im hoping to accomplish by commenting this, i just kind of wanted to tell this story. so if you read the whole thing, thanks for listening, have a good one.

When did science become "left wing". Actually depressing that people denounce science because "conspiracy and woke hurrdurr"

5:54 “I’m gonna zoom in on the Earth” Yeah, because if you didn’t, the fact that the rest of the image also has jpeg compression would be revealed

When your creationist-fueled conspiracy theory is so out-dated the Ancient Greeks already disproved it

Sobek, arriving early to the party: "I have come." Renenutet, his wife: "Too quickly, as usual..."

As a retail worker, can confirm that if someone is ranting to me about one of their conspiracy theories, I will simply smile and nod until they leave me alone

That guy with the guitar saying how hilarious this is and that he was making a fool of himself was honestly the nicest ive seen someone react in public to these people. There was almost an element of pity when he told him he was making a fool of himself. Like he wanted the crazy dude to stop for his own sake

Through watching this video, flat earth teached me one thing. And that is when hbomberguy said that the pharao was believed to be the reincarnation of Sobek and I was like "Wait. That's wrong. It's Horus.", I looked it up and found out that in the middle kingdom of Egypt, the two gods were actually merged into one god called Sobek-Horus. And that is the most that flat earthers have ever accomplished: leading to me getting some info on ancient Egypt. Thanks, flat earth society.

The real conspiracy is how I can watch heaps of leftist youtube and only get some recommendations (on the main page, not the side while watching, then I get more) but if I click on one alt-right or conspiracy page my main gets flooded with recommendations for more for some time. I don't think youtube is pushing for flat earth but I am saying that people who go down those rabbit holes watch a LOT of videos and are probably a good market to advertise to.

The best argument against a Flat earth is capitalism: You're telling me people wouldn't just dump garbage of the edge rather than recycle?

it wasn’t until my 50th rewatch of this that i realized that guy trying to argue with strangers is arguing about those drinking bird toys.

m o m s a y s i t s m y t u r n o n t h e s c i e n c e

I saw the documentary Behind The Curve. Patricia seemed like a really nice person. But at the end of the documentary is when she started receiving hate mail with conspiracies about her. She's driving with the documentary crew and she says "I can't believe there are so many people on the internet who are so ready and willing to believe any crazy conspiracy... I'm not one of those people.... Am I?" And it's just silence with her staring into the camera. It was so f**king surreal! I felt like I was being sucked in to the void!

New favorite quote: "Oh god... Is this really happening? Selena help!"

20:47 “they use deceptive methods to deceive you” walked so “resulting in destructive results” could run

As a vegan anti-fascist rapper, thank you for introducing me to my arch nemesis

"I don't think these flights exist. I think they made them just to trick guys like me." Laughed so hard I hurt myself.

As someone who actually lives in Santiago, Chile, it is absolutely HILARIOUS to watch people try to use us as proof. There really isn’t that much traffic between here and Australia, as far as I know, and it’d mostly be touristic or family visits- Never any urgency. Routing it through North America makes a lot of sense economically since there’s much more demand to the US.

38:35 “Fucking OOPS” literally made me spit out my coffee onto the dash of my car. Immediately subbed.

If the Earth was flat, cats would have shoved everything off the edge by now.

The earth is flat because jpeg compression artefacts lmao

If the earth was flat, governments around the world would be racing to make the first (and if they could help it, only) "Worlds-Edge" Resort, Tourist-Trapping the hell out of the edge of the earth the fact that they'd keep that a secret is stupid

You wanna know the funniest bit of this conspiracy theory? Who is conspiring? What would they have to gain? The theory is so incredibly hard to wrap your head... Around that it creates an insanely convoluted series of excuses and complications to explain a concept that would never... Function.

This reminds me of a flat-earther that wanted to go to space on a steam-powered rocket to "prove" the Earth is flat. Turns out, not believing in rocket science when you are building a rocket is fatal.

contrapoints: sexy alluring and smart philosophy tube: sexy alluring and smart hbomberguy: punches a globe with with a shoe on his fist and falls over

All I want is a flat Earther to explain to me is what the end game is. What is the purpose behind a conspiracy to make people believe the Earth is spherical?

Who is back watching old Hbomberguy videos after the new one dropped?? Because I sure am

The fact that flatties can't come up with a better reason why the government and scientists are lying about the earth being round other than "they don't want to admit they're wrong, they'll be embarrassed" is very, very telling.

Flat Earth guy goes to a bar and randomly asks people to debunk the flat Earth theory. They call him an idiot and he's asked to leave by the bar's owner. Flat Earth guy: "I think this was a productive day".

I feel like the biggest and most concise counterargument i've ever seen against flat earth is "If the earth is flat, then why the fuck haven't millionares and billionares monitized the shit out of it? Edge of the earth theme parks! A swing that goes over the edge!" and it's still the most convincing argument i've heard.

My partner's just pointed out, about the flight thing, that a flat earth map would actually make some flights shorter. The example she drew on was London to Beijing, which allegedly takes about the same time as the Perth to Chile flight; on a flat earth map, those cities would be WAY closer together, and thus the flights should - in theory - be a lot shorter if the earth was flat. Are flat earthers suggesting that airlines are consciously making some flights a lot SLOWER, wasting time, money and resources (as well as potentially going against the physics of flight, in which you need to maintain a set speed in order to create lift), JUST to preserve the illusion of a globe earth?

Hahahahaha that one girl in the flat Earth video: "Oh God... Is this really happening? Selena help."

"Why is there a square box around the earth?" How does that guy have a working copy of photoshop, know how to edit levels, and yet _not know what artifacting is?????_

Update: The world is no longer figuratively on fire, now it is literally on fire

i was so looking forward to the crossover scene, and was genuinely surprised that it was Abbigale and not you covering themself in a condiment. maybe it's been a while since i've seen her old work, but that really feels more like an hbomb bit than a philosphy tube bit.

The government hired Stanley Kubrick to fake the moon landing after coming to accept that they could not accomplish it. However, due to his unrelenting pursuit of perfection in his shots, within a year, he had his actors on the moon.

"Does this map hold any water? Well that's what the ice is for." I'm dead now

i didn't really watch philosophytube before her coming out even if i was vaguely aware of the channel i never checked it out so i totally forgot when she came out and was just. so confused because i didn't really consider that hbomber would misgender her until i realized some embarrassingly lasting seconds

the captions for the upisnotjump bit are great, my favorite is "[rude youtuber Hbomberguy] (hangs up)