Pick Up Artistry: A Measured Response 

so basically these books are "how to emotionally abuse your girlfriend and every other women you meet for dummies"

"Never tell a girl that you like her" "Beta males have problems telling girls that they like them" I'm getting conflicting intel here.

I told my wife about the "made a website against oral sex" guy. Her response? "Imagine hating oral sex so much that you learn HTML"

I just want to tell that one guy if the thought of sex repulses you, you might be asexual. It's okay for men to be asexual.

Pickup artists and garbage men should switch names

"Tap her 3 times on the shoulder, wait for her to turn around, and deliver your opening line. If you do this while holding a bowl, you will clip through the floor which will cause the now open date counter to glitch and you will get infinite dates. You can trade those for healing items with your local vendor."

"Women are being encouraged to look like fat outer space cyborgs" As they absolutely should, that sounds cool as fuck

I actually had one friend(a girl) who was watching Roosh. When I asked why would she torture herself, she said she was doing research. When I asked what for, she said she wants to be ready if someone is stupid enough to try these so she can steer clear of them. Alphas failed to consider that women can read.

The descriptions of sex have to be the most libido-slaughtering sentences I've ever heard.

"Women aren't trained to submit to men anymore." My god that's uncomfortable.

"Worrying about her pleasure will sacrifice your own" This is the problem with these guys in a nutshell.

“Porn is my teacher.” Honestly, what else do you need to know? “Why do you think you’re qualified to be a police officer, sir?” “I’ve watched hundreds of crime dramas.”

Can you get restraining orders against people you've never met before?

The fact that these “artists” are both homophobic but sing praises about the masculinity of the ancients Greek man is hilarious

The list of ways to crush a girl's self-esteem sounds like a guide to most effectively and efficiently mentally abusing the person you have a relationship with. These points are literally some of what abuse survivers will talk about.

Fun fact: the _thing_ Roosh uses is not a lego, but a piece of the "gormiti", a line of monster toys made and published in Italy that was popular around 2006 and quickly disappeared from markets. They became quite impossible to find after 2012, even in Italy. I have no fucking idea how this guy ended up with them

"Anything a woman or a gay person wants is theirs." Really? Then I want an awesome boyfriend and to abolish billionaires... Well, chop chop. Get on it society.

“Since sex is supposed to be fun, don’t take it too seriously by questioning whether you are doing things right.” you know, that’s actually good advice there- “Worrying about her pleasure sacrifices your own,” _o h_

Being a transgender lesbian is just the best man. All I have to do is say I want a chicken sandwich and some nebulous non entity I've titled "society" will go take one from a straight white man and give it to me.

In 2018 Roosh V was deplatformed and basically lost his career. In 2019 he became a devout Christian and condemned extramarital sex.

These people describe sex like they're secretly robots who have never felt the touch of another human being before.

I love how he says "porn is my teacher" as if that's something to be proud of.

"The gays can have anything they want." Yeah, except *MARRIAGE*

“BANG UKRAINE” Now THAT title aged like milk.

For the very first time, I wildly disagree with you on something Why did you throw out your legos?

18:13 This is emotional abuse, not love.

Referring to women as "The Desirable Female" is genuinely one of the creepiest phrases I've ever heard. There is so much wrong with the context and implications behind those three simple words.

You must hold off until the right moment and release your tail feathers, dazzling the female with a dance to a mixed reception of shock and awe

Jesus, I think I wrote more tantilizing descriptions of sex in the Zelda fanfictions I did when I was 15.

I'm slightly surprised none of those guys ever suggested "Kidnap a girl and hope Stockholm Syndrome sets in before the cops find you." as the ultimate advice.

"Anything that a woman or a gay person wants is theirs" Wow I'm both, why did no one tell me this?? I would like my own home, free healthcare, to play Glinda on Broadway, many, many new dolls, and an endless supply of bubble tea, please. ...Aaanytime now.

"This video took a really long time to make, turns out doing tons of research and reading a bunch of books is actually really time consuming" Oh sweet summer child. If only you knew what the future held.

"Since sex is supposed to be fun, don't take it too seriously by questioning whether you're doing things right." This is actually really good advice, an-- "Worrying about her pleasure sacrifices your own." ....aaaaaand you ruined it.

I'm a Japanese. I clicked this video without even understanding what exactly "pick up artistry" means(my English is poor). But as I watch through, I slowly realized this is about the book I once bought at the co-op store in my university looking for serious advice about romance only to throw away after reading first 30 pages or so saying "I mean if I were courageous enough to speak to 100 random women I wouldn't need this book..." That's right, a translated version of one of these books made it on the shelf of the co-op store in a JAPANESE NATIONAL UNIVERSITY. I didn't read through the book so I didn't really realize how misogynistic the book is, but man, this realization sent a chill down my spine.

The scary thing to me is that in their view all relationships are about power, which sounds remarkable similar to the way rapists think.

5:45 Roosh V talks about Ukrainian women like a Roman scholar describing the lifestyles of Germanic tribes

As a woman, you know what's really hot? Viewing us as humans and not alien monsters.

I feel some national pride when I see that Roosh made a book called "Don't bang Denmark" it makes me think that we as a nation did something right.

It's really telling that these people don't seem to actually enjoy sex or like women.. but still seem to be hyper focused on it. If you strip those things away all you get left with is just one person having power over another. Feels very rapey.

As a filipino woman who used to work in the BPO industry, seeing that section about "Filipino women" invokes a primordial feelings of cringe within me.

"cunnulingus is unatural" * lesbian laughter in the distance *

"I talked it over with my nice guy friends, and we all concluded she was totally into me." Sooo everybody agreed she liked you, except her.

"I Threw out my Legos when I became an adult" is the only part I take umbrage with.

I'll be honest if someone taps me THREE TIMES in my shoulder, they're already at a bad point. I had to tell a coworker to not grab my attention like that, it's just jarring and annoying. three times? what am i, a goddamn door??

“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” --C.S. Lewis Keep the legos.

The fact that these guys don't seem to actually like sex, much less the company of women, is the most baffling part.

I get being sex repulsed but you don’t have to be weird about it

this reminds me of the one time I was targeted by what I can only assume was someone trying (emphasis on Trying) PUA. I was trying to photocopy something when a guy I'd never seen before walked up and asked me if I knew how the copier worked, and ofc I tried to be helpful and briefly explained, though after a point I realised he didn't seem particularly interested and had just been waiting for his turn to talk. he then asked a series of questions about what year of study I was in and threw in a number of, honestly uncomfortable "compliments" and lines about how there was "plenty of time to get to know eachother" and it just baffled me bc anytime I tried to respond and carry on the conversation in a natural way, he'd veer into another line that was waaay too familiar and intimate for two people who'd literally just met. I don't think he even asked my name or gave me his, and nothing came of it, the conversation ended and I was left wondering what that had all been obviously this is pretty tame as weird interactions with strangers go, but I realised afterwards that what had made it feel so off was that I was essentially being treated like an NPC that you just had to nonsensically compliment or say the right platitudes to and some sense of intimacy or interest would... magically happen? I can only assume what had happened minutes before was the guy being told by his friends "look, there's a chick by the copier, try it out on her". and I'm not saying it's bad to try talking to strangers, or to not put yourself out there if you have poor social skills or anything (been there, trust me) but it feels quite dehumanising when someone is (very obviously, in this case) essentially making any random woman he comes across be a test subject for his pick-up lines. this guy wasn't remotely interested in me or even in having a friendly chat, he was just trying to chat up A Girl, and that's what doomed the attempt from the start, tbh anyway, great video hbomber, I initially came for the sherlock video and I've been working my way back from there :)

These books are basically “Abusive Relationships 101”

>"Don't take sex too seriously" >refers to jizzing as "ejecting a genetic package"

"One last question before we get started: do you have any disposable income?" That pretty much sums up every internet guru ever.

I love how at 13:38, Roosh chose the sculpture of “Laocoön and His Sons” as his ideal of masculinity when one of the interpretations of Laocoön’s story is that he was a temple priest who vowed to remain celibate but didn’t and got eaten by sea serpents as punishment

Women are encouraged to look like space cyborgs? Where can I see this glorious cyberpunk future?!

Jesus I literally had to step away from the video for a second these dudes are fucking scary.

what's scary about this phenomenon is that as sex/pleasure doesn't even matter, it's really all about power and control over women, i.e. r*pe/r*pe culture

19:49 Mathematically speaking, dragging my tongue across a woman’s nether regions (per her request) always ups their respect for me by at least 80,000,000%.

"How to crush a woman's self esteem" alternatively titled "how to abuse your significant other and damage their mental state" good lord

I'm going to get a lot of hate for saying this, but... I'm a woman and I think Roosh does understand true female needs and wants. Whenever I see him, that face, that body, I strip off my top and my bra because right then, I DO feel a deep desire -- that is, a deep desire to fucking vomit and I don't wanna ruin my clothes when it happens.

“Women are no longer being trained to submit to a man; to serve a man. Women are being applauded and encouraged to look like fat, outer space cyborgs.” Translation: “Women aren’t listening to men anymore and instead are choosing to be happy, not worry about weight gain, and are embracing a cyberpunk aesthetic… … and I guess what I’m saying is that iM MAD THAT IM JUST FINDING OUT THAT THAT WAS AN OPTION THE WHOLE TIME AND IM READY TO MAKE IT EVERYONES PROBLEM THAT NO ONE TOLD ME.”

As a Calgarian, I am not at all shocked that the Calgary chapter of "pick-up artists" would be little bitches about the cold 😂

"I threw out all my legos when I became an adult." Legos are awesome I will fight you

I say this with 100% honesty. Feminism saved me from being an insecure, emotionally immature man child.

One time I saw I guy tell people that it’s better for men to get dating advice from other men rather than women by saying, “Would you rather ask a fish how to catch fish, or would you rather ask a successful fisherman?” Implying that men chasing women is like a fishermen trying to murder a fish. 🤨

I heard someone say that "Pickup Artists and Trash-Men should have their names switched."

"I threw out all my legos when I became an adult" Honestly, that's just sad. Who throws away legos? Also, fun fact: serial rapists tend to view sex not as a pleasurable thing, but an expression of power.

"Be prepared for disappointment." Coincidentally that's my go to pick up line.

So here, many years later, I finally notice yet another fucking weird contradiction with Roosh V's logic. In the first excerpt of this video, it's stated that you shouldn't tell the girl you like that you actually like them, never praise them or compliment them. But then later on he states that not telling the girls you like that you like them is 'a serious problem beta males deal with'. So in conclusion... Roosh V accidently admits that him and his method is by and for beta males...

Dane here. BANG Denmark is hilarious, because he liked the look of the (not explicitly, but eh, let's go with Aryan) Danish girls, but hated that they were so independent and indifferent to his displays of prestige, that him trying to appease their tastes made him feel emasculated. He actually had to listen, had to give them space, and had to not bulldoze their lives to date. And he felt that made him less of a man. Personally, as a dude in Denmark, I prefer my partners being able to handle their own lives (ie, being raised to not being supposed to be dependent on men, and not being subservient to them), and I like that I have part of the purpose in our home. I like dating people. I don't like dating property. Like, I'm bad at doing the dishes, but I'm goddamned supposed to. It's supposed to be OUR house. Not a life where a partner happens to manage my comfort when I'm done working. And I don't like women being dependent on me. Regardless of the economic freedom it gives the ones I should live with, like even if I were to be selfish, I like that people I date have their own stuff going on. It breathes life into mine when I hear how their day went.

Rule of thumb: Never be with a guy who won't eat you out. Thank you for coming to my TED talk

It's fun to laugh at these people and all, but we need to remember that they're actually rapists in the making. I'm a reasonably strong straight man, and the things that these guys were saying made *ME* want to grab pepper spray. Guys, if you know someone like this, remember that viewing women as property is a very small step away from treating them like property. Don't let this shit go unchallenged.

It's disturbing how warped and miserable these men's thoughts have become. They've somehow built a philosophy of self-victimization out of their experiences of rejection while also othering women to a terrifying degree. They're so blinded by their resentment/lack of empathy that they'll unironically write these blatantly hateful things while still convinced they're in the right.

Throughout this I heard Jordan Peterson crying in the background that the number of men in relationships has plummeted since women were given options. Not too long ago men like these would be married to a woman whose opinion were violently disregarded. We are so moving in the right direction.

16:57 My national pride has never been greater than when reading the words "Why it's almost impossible to get along with a Danish woman if you're an alpha male"

Jontron controversy: I can't believe one of my fav youtubers is a white surpremacist :( Hbomb controversy: I can't believe one of my favorite youtubers told me LEGO is for kids :(

I love how the dude has a whole villain origin story, even his own narration makes it sound like an anime monologue

"Since sex is supposed to be fun, don't take it too seriously by questioning whether you're doing things right." Based. "Worrying about her pleasure sacrifices your own." Oh.

14:46 "Women are no longer trained to submit to a man to serve a man" Low whisper: "T H E H O R R O R" *eyes close dramatically slowly*

"anything a woman or a gay person wants, it's theirs." Can Roosh explain how I, as a gay woman, am still single then?

2:45 The “sex is supposed to be fun, don’t overthink it” (paraphrase, I know) is actually really on-target until it concludes with “don’t worry about her pleasure”. Wtf? Definitely don’t overthink things and don’t take it “too seriously”, but definitely pay attention to what your partner is liking or not liking. Be playful. Communicate. Have fun for fuck’s sake!

"Anything that a woman or a gay person wants is theirs." Okay, but even if this were true, who is it that's giving women anything they want? Are women taking those things from men at gunpoint or something? If you're not happy about women getting things (for whatever strange reason) just stop giving things to them. Don't blame the women for it. This line really stuck with me because I've been seeing a lot of whiny little boys complaining about and slut shaming "Only Fans girls" and it completely baffles me how they don't get how complicit men are in that. Hearing them talk you'd think that women film themselves naked and then money rains down on them from the sky. Like, let's all be clear about this: Only Fans doesn't exist as a platform for pornography because women are sluts, it exists because men are willing to pay for porn. I just find it very suspicious that someone can be so against the existence of pornography and yet focus all of their ire on the women who produce it, ignoring the men who create the market for it in the first place. It's almost like their real problem is with women and not with pornography...

"Women are no longer trained to submit to a man, to serve a man...." Not sure if he's a time-traveler from the biblical times or a dog-trainer attempting to apply his expertise to his own species.

Roosh being a biochem major is proof that STEM doesn't mean you're smart

Is it just me or is H.Bomber Guy the kind of person who's bat$h|t crazy but also incredibly sane, Comedic and charming? I kinda want him to play the underdog in a movie.

honestly it seems like at least half of these people could be asexual, just in the worst way possible. like, they say “oh, sex isn’t fun, it’s not pleasurable, etc.” and i’m just thinking “buddy, are you sure you ain’t missing something?”

"The Calgary Chapter of Return of Kings has a 100% SJW saturation rate." is my favourite sentence in this entire half hour video

That story in the intro of Bang is so sad because that girl probably really liked him as a friend and all the guy could see was a sex object.

not to be the "homophobic and bigoted people are marginalized people in disguise" person, but it really does sound to me that the main purpose of pick-up artistry, if not companionship or sex, is approval from the community, aka other men. I don't think it's in a way that's specifically queer though, I think that these people genuinely despise other women so much that they've resorted to creating an echo chamber with other men like them.

2:35 "porn is my teacher" is a phrase i didnot expect to be presented so confidently and authoritatively.

"1. Constantly make her feel inadequate. You should rarely give her unqualified praise. Every time she does something for you, find out what she did wrong and remind her of it. If you can't find any problems, make some up." Today I learned that not only am I apparently a girl, but my own psyche is using pickup artistry on me.

Pick up artistry? More like "from marginal virgin to sexual offender... still virgin" There, I fixed the title

I mean, Matt forney really looks like a guy who would be in the news for something bad

With all the Andrew tate shit that happened throughout the last year, it is amazing how hbomb was ahead of the curve in seeing this movement's rise

I also loved how when he said “they are perceived as superior to straight...men” he clearly meant to say “straight white men” but noticed there were different races in the audience so pivoted mid-sentence.

As someone with a good number of very dear friends that have been severe victims of abuse and gaslighting, that whole part about "crushing self-esteem" made me feel ill. Physically _ill_ I've seen the truly horrific long-term effects that shit has on people. Heavy and constant suicide ideation, intense cycles of self-hatred that feel as though you can't do anything to help them. Fuck, my own wife _still_ tells me she doesn't deserve to be loved at times, even after all this time of slowly working to try and help her out of that sinkhole. These are not concepts I feel people really truly appreciate the severity of in terms of how disgustingly fucked up it all really is. Most of all, it's absolutely heartbreaking to see those effects in action, when close friends insist that everything is their fault and viciously attack themselves without mercy. It's not just heartbreaking; it makes me angry. It makes me incredibly fucking angry to see people like this get away with inflicting this suffering on people.

I will never understand people who think sex is this important

“Every time she does something for you, find out what she did wrong and remind her of it. If you can’t find any problems, just make something up” That’s literally just the description of an abusive relationship. That’s literally what victims of abuse will say about their partners in therapy

"How to Be an Abusive Sexual Predator"

if you threw out your lego when you "became an adult" you didnt become an adult you became SAD

I wonder if all of these guys read Onision’s books, and found them “high literature.”

"Unlike Alphas, Betamales have trouble telling their female friends that they like them." and "Don't tell her about your feelings, that's weak" appearing in the same book is amazing.