Flex Fuel Kit (E85) Install Guide - 16-24 Camaro LT1, SS & ZL1 | Lethal Garage

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Looking to install the Lethal Garage Flex Fuel kit? This guide will walk you through everything minus tuning for this install. Also checkout the dyno results!
This flex fuel kit will allow you to run 91/93 or E85. You can mix the fuels or run each as a stand-alone. But you will want as pure of an E85 mix as possible for max power gains.
Note: This kit requires a tune to be able to run E85, do not run E85 without having your car tuned for it.
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@Lethalgarage Год назад

The Lethal Garage Flex Fuel kit is now available! Lethal Garage Flex Fuel Kit: bit.ly/2ObtEjW Red Barn Racing - instagram.com/redbarnracing

@byoung4367 Год назад

Is this compatible with older cars. Like can you use on the Terminator x

@machinis 11 месяцев назад

Hey Matt. I've been running your kit for 4 years on my daily driven, always running E85. No issues at 99,000 miles.

@Lethalgarage 11 месяцев назад

Awesome! It’s always good to run a tank of regular gas from time to time regardless.

@rothwell5150 10 месяцев назад

Bought this kit and received it in Canada within a week. Super easy install. Great guy to deal with

@Lethalgarage 10 месяцев назад

Sometimes you never know how long it will take to cross the border, but I’m glad it got there quickly

@shootpse88 Год назад

Excellent vid Matt,i like the simple explanation of everything,i wish more car guys would make vids like this for us

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Most won’t as they feel it would cause a loss in business. I get where they are coming from, but my entire channel is about doing it yourself. That is, unless I don’t know how, than I try to share and learn.

@1971Scamp Год назад

Just ordered mine, thanks for the info and walkthrough!

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Shipping today

@s2srt472 Год назад

Ordered mine. I thought they were gone foreva. I was looking for this last month.

@youalreadyknow5039 Год назад

Red Barn is all about quality. Nice choice Matt. I am sold. Gonna hit u up for a kit. Thanks for sharing brotha!!

@pali1H Год назад

Just FYI those fuel line clips on top of the intake cover are very sensitive to side load and want to break. Be sure there isn't too much pressure on them.

@Lethalgarage Год назад

The lines are pretty flexible

@pali1H Год назад

@@Lethalgarage nice! Thanks! Don't ask how I know those clips are delicate.

@Lethalgarage Год назад

@@pali1H the new braided line we’re using should be problem free for many years, GM’s line will get stiff and hard over time with the braided wrap.

@Peligambino Год назад

I got my kit from you thanks bro 😎

@ZaZilla448 Год назад

How much did you pay for a tune bro

@Peligambino Год назад

Every tuner is different and charges different anywhere from 500-1000$

@pali1H Год назад

Thanks man! I gotta order one.

@jeffclayton9968 Год назад

Excellent job fellas.

@Tarez205 4 месяца назад

lol after all the e85 I’ve put on in my life I’m 90 percent certain you were supposed to remove that old line entirely

@IgnacioMarez 6 месяцев назад

Ordering my kit soon! Just got a quick question how will I know what percentage of fuel am I gonna be running

@Lethalgarage 6 месяцев назад

You would need a manual test kit or buy a gauge that can read ethanol content.

@chippybmw Год назад

Thanks for the Vid. Since the fuel line clips are so important (safety reasons) can we purchase or maybe update the kit again for extra $ to include 2 more to put on the sensor connection? Fuel line coming off would be really bad news!

@Lethalgarage Год назад

The sensor doesn’t have room for the clips.

@kebirbro6638 Год назад

the only thing i need to run e85 is basically this flex fuel sensor and a tune right? no need to upgrade fuel injectors/etc?

@lostinawareness7979 Год назад

I'm pretty sure you need bigger injectors to run full E85 but I think this kit is for like E50 (93/E85 mix)

@newtwitchclipper Год назад

hey lethal the camaro starter heat soak issue class action suit has been dropped please do a follow up video!

@boyesjeffrey Год назад

So what's the process of a 'tune'? What actually happens? What is adjusted? Do you have a video already?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

We do not show tunes or the process. You should work with a professional and have them go over those details with you.

@DELJOHNKE 29 дней назад

Does a flex fuel sensor make it more consistent for bracket racing drag racing

@Lethalgarage 29 дней назад

@@DELJOHNKE I would say no.. I mean the only way to guarantee your fuel being consistent is if you ran something like X 85.

@daqwaunking2732 15 дней назад

Hey can a zl1 fuel feed line fit a ss engine?

@lucianp7649 6 месяцев назад

where did you learn to do all of this to cars? I personally love cars but i’m having a hard time learning them to the extent that i’d like. do you have any recommendations on information or processes i could take to learn more? i currently have a 2018 camaro 2ss and i would love to build it into something really nice but i’m just scared i’m going to do something wrong and cause damage.

@Lethalgarage 6 месяцев назад

I got lucky and became friends with people who knew a lot and was able to learn from them. It took me a long time to get comfortable doing things, but finally have taken on projects I would have steered away from in recent years.

@wilfredoramos9236 Год назад

No one has asked why that car baseline dynoed so low? Ive never seen a stock lt1 car that low on power , not even an auto. Am i missing something?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

You do realize you have 455hp/trq at the crank and not wheels. Every dyno reads different. I’ve seen some dyno in the 340-360 range. Maybe go look for more dyno results. Same dyno my car racked up 1,100+ trq. /shrug

@MrHussain2300 Месяц назад

exactly as far as i know LT1s range is between 390 to 410 wheel. Thats what my car got.

@crazyrampag Год назад

How do you pull out the connector?

@nonstopfeeds7169 Год назад

How much does it cost for someone to do this for you? I know the kit is like 250

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Depends on the shop. $50-$100

@saulochoa3562 Год назад

How much does your tuner charge for the E85 tune I’m an hour away From Temecula.

@Lethalgarage Год назад

I think $750 for a dyno tune on a 2016.

@crisluciano9222 Год назад

what about for a 2022 1SS?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

@@crisluciano9222 have to give him a call

@justsxintz-4765 2 месяца назад

What about if you got a hi ram intake how do you wire that? Same way?

@Lethalgarage 2 месяца назад

@@justsxintz-4765 unless you deleted your EvaP should plug in the same way

@justsxintz-4765 2 месяца назад

@@Lethalgarage okay just had to make sure thanks bout to buy me a kit right now

@thatrealcarguy Год назад

Did he say torque is 89ftlbs on the valve cover bolt? I am about to install this weekend.

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Inch lbs

@thatrealcarguy Год назад

@Lethalgarage thank you!! Sounded way too high for a valve cover bolt.

@Laidoffsick Год назад

What do you use in your personal car to monitor the E content? I really dont want to run any gauges inside the car. I would rather bluetooth it with FlexLink or Fuel It apps to my phone. Just curious what you run.

@Lethalgarage Год назад

I use my gauges.

@Laidoffsick Год назад

@@Lethalgarage what gauges do you have in your car? Specifics?

@ryanregner8513 6 месяцев назад

Hey so I just got my 2016 camaro ss from the shop and I got the flex fuel kit do I have to upgrade my injectors cause they didn’t do that when they installed it

@Lethalgarage 6 месяцев назад

Your stock fuel system can support 600rwhp. So unless you have some other major mods, you should be good.

@Kocharhamad 3 месяца назад

What about ethanol level gauge

@Lethalgarage 3 месяца назад

The Banks iDash is great

@Kocharhamad 3 месяца назад

@@Lethalgarage i ordered flex fuel kit for camaro , it’s reading ethanol level? Just needed gauge ?

@disalvo00 Год назад

What do i do if i installed this kit and the check engine light comes on

@Lethalgarage Год назад

If it’s not tuned than a CEL will turn on. The ECU sees the pin and doesn’t know what to do with it. But I would verify it’s not an Evap code which would indicate the connection is hooked up tight/properly.

@mob4336 Год назад

Lethal i gotta question- I had to get new tires on my SS so I went to the dealership cause they were willing to do price match. Anyways I got new tires put on and my car but it doesn’t feel the same. It doesn’t drive the same I feel literally every bump , some make my whole car shake , road noise , and corners don’t feel safe like it did before ( just to name a few ) what do you think the problem is?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Same stock tires?

@HatedSS Год назад

I had to force my white wire in for some reason it didn’t go in easy and everything is hooked up my car doesn’t have a CEL is it supposed to come on some people say yes some say no just wanna make sure it’s actually getting power before I go get it tuned in the next couple weeks thanks

@Lethalgarage Год назад

If it didn’t slide in easy, the ECU opening might not be all the way clear. A CEL isn’t guaranteed right away. It can turn on, but doesn’t always turn on.

@HatedSS Год назад

@@Lethalgarage I was able to put a punch all the way through the harness so I know it wasn’t clogged and when I did get the pin in I made sure it was straight and it clicked in the blue shield went on no problem I guess I’ll wait and find out when I go get it tuned

@splerg31 Год назад

So the only difference in the updated kit is the steel braided line? I still have the old kit brand new in the bag. Should I swap it for the updated one?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Only the fuel line. No need to swap

@splerg31 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage Cool thanks. Gonna go ahead and install it then.

@tomvandyke957 Год назад

Hey so I have a question then can you run an e85 kit without a tune? I live in California and I don't know if I can tune it and be smog legal.

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Have to get a tune

@thomasdickson7200 Год назад

My car is still under warranty. Will it void it?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Any tune will void your warranty

@Bryan-u1v Год назад

I got a question, can u switch from e85 and regular pump gas or is permanently e85 once u tune it?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Yes, that is what flex fuel is. If you did a e85 only tune, that would be a different story.

@jayofu3go392 Год назад

When will you restock the kit it’s sold out on the website ?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Should have restock on Monday

@jayofu3go392 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage fasho appreciate you my guy

@rickcorrea891 Год назад

What does this do for your ZL1 as far as performance?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Not sure why YT doesn't show me new messages and comments, but it adds power, and for a ZL1 you will need more than just a kit. The ZL1 will need additional fueling support to run 100% E85, but you can gain upwards of 100rwhp.

@dandre2valid 11 месяцев назад

Can you run only e-85 or can you run all the other fuels like 93 with the kit still installed??

@Lethalgarage 11 месяцев назад

Flex Fuel allows you to run either fuels or a mixture of them.

@ryanratliff9115 Год назад

Question if I were to order this tonight and wanted it delivered by Friday would that be possible?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

If you pay for Express shipping USPS priority express is a 1-2 day service. Depending where you’re at in the country it’s pretty much next day service. We would ship it first thing in the morning.

@ryanratliff9115 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage ok how do I go about doing that? I already have a kit but I like the clean install on yours. Also what’s up with the ground wire? Mine doesn’t have that

@Lethalgarage Год назад

@@ryanratliff9115 my kit utilizes the EVAP for power while yours most likely plugs into the coil pack. So my kit needs the ground while your current one has a closed line with an inline fuse. You can order my kit via LethalGarage.com and select the 1-2 day shipping service.

@ryanratliff9115 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage so my tuner shouldn’t have any issues? The kit I currently have is the smg and my tuner is pray performance.

@ryanratliff9115 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage hey man I’m trying to check out with shop pay but the thing just keeps spinning

@lilchico4535 Год назад

If I buy this kit and tune will it avoid my warranty?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Any flex fuel kit will void GM’s warranty

@mandohernandez5929 6 месяцев назад

Do you have a kit for 23 Silverado 6.2?

@Lethalgarage 6 месяцев назад

We do not. Only DSX offers that to my knowledge thanks to the tuning required.

@T3KCO Год назад

If I get the kit can I still run it on 91 until I get it tuned

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Of course!

@LT1Key Год назад

Is a tune required?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

It sure is.

@cptnkev2801 Год назад

Any issue with the fuel pump life running E85 long term? Some plastics aren’t designed to work with E85.

@Lethalgarage Год назад

No issues we've seen to date. all GM fuel pumps are rated for e85, it is part of their design spec and has been since 2009.

@jacobchapel6823 Год назад

Do i have to upgrade fuel injectors, or fuel pump 2020 Camaro ss ?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Your stock fuel pump and injectors will get you to 600hp, anything above that, yes, changes will be required.

@jacobchapel6823 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage my buddy has a 2015 corvette stingray he wants to know if he would be able to use stock fuel pump and injectors as well ?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

@@jacobchapel6823 yea, the C7 is the same setup. His system will support upward of 600hp at the crank

@gabriel._.8478 Год назад

Is the LT1 the same as the 1LT??

@Lethalgarage Год назад

No.

@obanana-2252 11 месяцев назад

Does anyone know how much the tune is?

@Lethalgarage 11 месяцев назад

Depends on the shop. Ranges from $650-$1200 depending what year your vehicle is and if the do a dyno tune or not.

@ivans6.2ss20 Год назад

Whats his ig or address so i can go buy one and get my 2019 2ss tune. I have a borla type S Axleback exhaust and GM performance cold air intake. And thanks for the video dude. Keep up the great work 👍

@Lethalgarage Год назад

@redbarnracing

@jayofu3go392 Год назад

Can you pass smog with the tune ?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Depends on what state you are in.

@jayofu3go392 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage weak ass Cali lol 😂

@scottcorliss9203 Год назад

I’m gettin a 23 ZL1 w a supercharger will this kit work?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

A ZL1 needs fueling upgrades and possible cam to run 100% e85.

@scottcorliss9203 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage how much more wheel HP would I be looking at w a cam and e-85 on the wheels

@Lethalgarage Год назад

@@scottcorliss9203 if you update the fuel system and get the right cam, you could be looking at 100-125rwhp especially if you update the lower pulley as well.

@julesblancfer6060 Год назад

Hello, Can the kit work on a 2018 LT 2.0 Turbo? Is re-programming mandatory? Thank's

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Unfortunately, no

@julesblancfer6060 Год назад

@@Lethalgarage So it is not possible to drive with E85 with a 2.0 turbo?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

@@julesblancfer6060 it’s not possible to have flex fuel. You can go to any tuner who is willing to work on a 2.0 and have them straight tune it for e85, but you can’t set it up with a sensor and run pump or e85.

@julesblancfer6060 Год назад

Thank you for your answer, the mapping parameters are the same for the 4, 6 or 8 cylinders, or are they specific to each car?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

@@julesblancfer6060 the ECU and each of the cars is different. The V6 and i4 do not have provisions to read an ethanol sensor.

@VibewithAycee Год назад

My ground wire is ripping anything I can do?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

Cut the wire and put a new end on it?

@lovellwilliams9062 Год назад

Once getting tuned to 85. Can I still run 93 sometimes, or will it be strictly E85 all the time?

@Lethalgarage Год назад

That is what flex fuel is… the ability to run either or, or a mix of the two.

@xsixinfantryx 2 месяца назад

Doesn't really matter what the fuel line that comes with it is rated for right? Aren't you going to be still be limited to what the factory line that your still using on the other half of it is rated for? Or is my wife right when she tells me I'm retarded, and I'm missing something.

@Lethalgarage 2 месяца назад

@@xsixinfantryx as long as it is PTFE rated and can handle E85, that is all that matters. The line that matters is after the high side pump.

@xsixinfantryx 2 месяца назад

@@Lethalgarage are those bypass kits any good? Where you put the sensor in it, it'll sample of the fuel, while the rest of the fuel runs past it, unrestricted? Or is that only useful if your using a higher pressure system.

@Lethalgarage 2 месяца назад

@@xsixinfantryx why would you want anything other than just a sensor reading the ethanol content