How can a NA Camaro SS beat a stock ZL1 .. Here's the secret! 

Yeah I know lmao 🤣 tell me about it

Extremely. And mustangs over hyped

@@Akosa117 I disagree. I hardly see the Mustang getting the respect it deserves compare to Camaros and Scats.

YES THEY ARE

@@thullraven1 way more mustang content than camaro content

What do the 6 speed, 10speed etc. Mean?

@@darkNovaskar anount of gears in the transmission

@@darkNovaskar 10 speed is automatic transmission, 6 speed is manual.

@@darkNovaskar 6 speed manual transmission, 10 speed automatic transmission. almost as good as the PDK of Porsche!

@@z06king better..its realible unlike the euro trash.

N/A is awesome, super underrated.

I have a 18’ 1le with a small cam headers and a bigger throttle body and a closed cold air intake a tune and I make around 520 to the wheels. She’s got three speeds, here, there, and gone 🤌🏾 I also recommend the nitto 555 g2s so far those have been the best gripping tire I’ve used 🤝🏽

I have an 18' 1LE,what cam and headers did you go with.

i have a 2020 1SS 1LE Camaro with 3400 miles on it. I bought it new and is a garage dweller. I know what i want to do with it but, you got to pay to play.

for sure my friend..

@@RacerX9 what would be a reliable way to get to 500 whp on one of these NA.

Sweeeeet…….🔥🔥🔥

You should make some vids on that beast. Show the world what you got and make some bucks.

@@alexoike5381 I did an AFD/DOD delete and put a Katech delete cover. There’s a lot of stuff I didn’t list but they come factory with 455/455 HP/Torque and I’m at 826.7/787 HP/Torque with the Mods thus far. I built it as a track car(not a drag car) because of the handling so I’m really at about the usable limit of HP for that application. I’ve thought about upgrading the P-1SC-1 pro charger to a D1X (you can send it in and they can upgrade it for you at pro charger to give you more boost(I’m only running about 7psi right now), but that may be a bit too much for the track. I’ll maybe do a video with a cold start and a look under the hood if you wanna check it out. Check my RU-vid page after this weekend. I have a few old cars that I own that I’ve done little personal videos on.

No disrespect, but I love how you talk about a built car vs stock LOL. The amount of money you likely spent to get the car to "surpass" a zl1 with your "procharger" figure what between 6-8 thousand? or even when you did the rebuild to have it rated at "1000whp" is insane. If you threw that same money into a stock zl1 youre not even coming close. A stock zl1 from the factory strength wise is good for around 1000hp. Meaning the amount of money you put into that car could have been used in a better way with the zl1 as the internals are already built for it. going to be significantly cheaper than rebuilding the motor so that you have forged internals. I have a 2013 1ss cammed N/A that puts down about 500whp. And a completely stock 17 zl1. My cammed LS3 smacks stock 6th gen ss cars, and snackpacks LOL, But it doesnt even come close to my zl1. Look up the video of cleetus mcfarland doing a CAI, and upper pulley swap on stock zl1 and it picks up 100whp. Now sure, for track days/road course then you get into heat soak because youre overspinning the blower. But for a street car thats insane we are talking maybe a grand for the upgrades and tuning. The real monster is throwing the 2650 maggie on it with supplemental mods.

Stock zl1 on 93 vs a fbo e85 lt1 direct injected motor with a trans tune and motor tune. Also lighter, It should win. Put a pulley on the zl1 and a tune and it’s no longer a race.

@@joshreynolds729 facts

Modded vs unmodded comparisons are retarded. Modded ZL1s put down 800+ rwhp. The end.

What is the HP and gas milage?

Absolutely my friend

I recommend getting the flex fuel kit and e85 tune first. It’s definitely the most power you can add for the price. It’s a noticeable difference (30-50hp) depending on the tune and it’s less than $1000 all in.

Sounds Great 👍

Can you tell us which shop did the work on your car ?

Please and thank you

Nice!!!

1LE is the way to go

You’ll be at least 6 months or longer. If you got the pdr it’ll be even longer

See it next June!

You wont regret it

I'm right there with you. I bought my '22 1SS right when the car market started to go crazy. I got it at MSRP of $40k and some change. Same dealership had a '20 LT1 with 7k miles for $43k. They had a policy where they sell new cars at MSRP and used cars at Market. If I had waited any longer to buy my car I'd have been priced out. I can't find a single example of a 1SS that I'd be able to hit the $560/month payments I'm doing now. A year later, and with almost 10k miles on the clock and it's now valued at $47,500.

How much did you spend for everything bro? If you don’t mind

He said basically everything stock!

Lol..

I just picked up my 2020 10-speed 2SS yesterday, I’m extremely excited! I also came from a 392 charger with all the mods( FBO /E85) it ran well but in a world of 10 speeds it wouldn’t be able to compete with the best NA setups. Heads/Cam , E85 package is the first mods im getting when i break the car in!

@@michaelchevalier990 what does e85 do? just allow you to be able to use e85 or what?

@@Orestella higher octane gas.

@@mr.puddintater1805 would your car not be able to use that kind of gas without an e85 tune?

@@Orestella with E85 you can bump the timing and make more HP...

1LE's are wicked! I have an 18' and it is awesome.

So are you a Mopar guy,? Or do you drive around in those,... Frickin Overheats Rollin Downhill?

@@rickhenry9044 Dude you are not worth taken decent time for good response. Just take your rude ass back to the GM trash can you came out of.

@@rickhenry9044girl what?

You probably beat Mustang GTs too.

@@zacharyrose1959 Hahaaa

Every feature you just mentioned is in any loaded car accept the the active exhaust, so nothing special

@@invalidusername_5101 He's saying that and how underrated the Camaros are because they are very underrated cars compared to the Mopars and Mustangs.

@@zacharyrose1959 no shit

me too 17 ss2 red hot 6spd super fast got 11000 miles and it a scratch bose system pd 38000 compliments daily

That’s about what mine was getting stock. I only added a flex fuel kit with tune for e85 since then but it added 40 rwhp. It’s a very noticeable difference when driving.

I got more than that in my Caddy.

My 6.0 Silverado gained just over 100 hp with tune and MAF change. Burns tires LOL

Anything 410+ is a unicorn, and 420-425 is like Powerball jackpot, or people are lying, or dynos are far more gracious than the reality of things. 99% of these cars dyno 390-405, Anything over that is a factory freak, and is the farthest thing from being common you can get. In all my research of dyno numbers I've only see 2 or 3 that hit close to 420, and that is assuming people are not lying, and the dyno shop is not full of shit.

Congrats! Great choice on color too. LT1 is huge value, not spending as much $$$ on factory options that you will end up swapping out anyway.

@@mikedaleiden7725 exactly my boy! Someone who gets it! 👍 picked it up yesterday. Pretty sweet.

@@pedrohizzle2835 Excited for ya! Now the toughest part of buying a new sports car...the break in.

@@mikedaleiden7725 there’s a breakin? Lol

How does elevation effect forced induction?

@@Texaslivinn97 Forced air helps what can be an “air-starved” condition for NA cars at higher pressure altitudes. It’s just like when you jog at higher pressure altitudes and get quickly winded.

Actually? Blower cars are affected by it, because the pulley isn’t freewheeling like a turbo is. Granted, it’s slightly LESS affected than a NA car, but only turbo cars aren’t affected because the turbo freewheels and you get allllllll the power.

Superchargers are forced induction and under boost, so they are better than NA at higher pressure altitudes. Turbochargers are the least affected.

@@Texaslivinn97 Oxygen is the catalyst in Air that is used in the combustion process. At higher altitudes the atmospheric pressure is lower and the air particles are more spread out. This means that per cubic foot of volume there is less oxygen at higher altitudes than at sea level. Forced Induction, super charged or Turbo, creates a significant vacuum, pressurizes the air it's intaking (thus measuring boost in psi), and forces that into the combustion chamber, there by overcoming the deficit of density found at high altitude.

I've previously owned a 2nd gen coyote, a LT1 Vette (C7), and currently a LT4 ZL1. Both companies know how to build their engines in recent years. I like to keep my vehicles mostly stock, but I respect that the engines/cars I've owned can respond extremely well to mods. They accomplish their tasks differently, but there's no debate they're all great motors! I do plan to eventually sell my Camaro, but I do like it quite a bit! I'm just more a corvette girl myself (so I'm staying in the family 🤭). Waiting on a build slot for the C8 😅

It’s better than the mustang and challenger…… handling by far better. I have one the LT1 is a beast better than the HEMI

The Hellcat has a ton of wasted horsepower for the street and is good to own for bragging rights only. I had the same encounter with a Hellcat and he never did get in front of me because we stopped but he was getting ready to. The Camaro SS is an awesome machine in it's own right and handles great for its weight, better than my ride and far better than a Challenger of any kind ever could.

@@anthonybrock1387 It handles better. It comes down to the drivers in straight line speed against the Mustang GT. I've beaten every SS I ever faced. That said, IMO the king of hp for the price is your LT1. It's a fun ride. 😁

Agreed and I’m a huge ford guy. Ford trucks are still the best, but the Camaro definitely beats the other 2 when it comes to cars. Love my 2SS

LOL that works too

@@RacerX9 any suggestions on a good quality head and cam package ?

@@COMMANDERHAWK22 cam I’d look at Brian tooley racing aka BTR cam Texas speed also has head and cam packages, either ported stock or aftermarket castings and both are great. Heads from Texas speed (PTR heads are good for the price) and a cam from BTR will turn an LT1 into quite the beast Or you got RPM and their packages, they are great as well- they are local to me and tuned my ZL1 after I did the mods. Pricey but there’s a reason they have such a wait list to get into their shop

why don't you tune it

@@ilsl04 Warranty

@@StreetCars101TV same reason here. I don’t want to pay to fix it

@@captainjinx42 exactly! The car was already expensive, not looking to put more money into it. Other than that I would just buy a faster car

could also be weight. they are pretty heavy

Emissions should be fine and stalling depends. If your car is an automatic transmission it is much more likely to stall depending on what stage cam you get. You should be fine with a 6 speed manual. cars with a cam really want to just take off so normal city driving at a light will require more acceleration and gas when taking off in first gear or it will stall.

I just beat a C7 from 40-120 on the highway in my 2021 LT1 10-Speed

The LT1 is a Vette engine or a Camaro engine,,, whatever way you want to look at it.

@@Nobamaable Understood, but the one in the SS 1LE I have was built at the Vette plant. Not all Camaro's with 6.2's got these hand built engines.

​@@danaberman6929 You were lied to.

I wouldn't go more than 150-200hp on the stock bottom end.. boosted or NA

They safely make 600-650whp depending on the tune. The higher you go you're gonna need e85 or meth to keep the temps down so you don't bust the piston rings

And easier to find parts for the supra world has like specific people u have to know to be able to get certain parts for like dash pieces n certain body mods n things of that sort

just bought my 1le 6spd manual and love it! Def want to the h/c/i one day

@@KickinItWithQ Do it! You won't regret it. Love how the car feels and drives now. We extended redline to 7.2k and it sounds glorious going through the gears.

@@Snicerchopenhanger nice! I appreciate you sharing that info bro!

agree, especially considering any kind power adder will decimate that for less money.

That’s still a lot cheaper than the $20-25k extra it cost to get a brand new zl1 compared to a new SS

My 17 automatic is going to the shop next week. BTR Stage 2 cam, TSP longtube headers, BTR DOD delete, and CHE trunion kit, and and 8L90 converter with installation is gonna run just shy of $15k

Facts my ss had a Magnuson on it my ss ran 11.2 my zl1 running 9.6

You do stage 3 heads, cam, 13:12 intake and long tubes and you’ll be in the low 10s. Stock ZL1 won’t break into the 10s. He was talking about the fact that you could make a NA ss faster than stock ZL1 with solid mods.

You can also make a civic Camaro fast if you dump enough $$$ in it. If you want more power than the SS just get a ZL1 .

I have a manual. Its WAY more fun than an auto. Auto might be a touch faster but who cares, it's not noticeable and in a roll race I think the manual is better. If you don't want to shift, then get the auto.

Who cares? Aren't we talking about CAMAROS

@@hectorlopez5297 Can you understand English? He's talking Camaro and his Mustang ....you are talking sh!t

Chevy SS might be the route you wanna take but it does have the previous ls3 in it and not the lt4

@@danielvarela6685 unless he wants to pay a lot of money, good luck finding a Chevy SS.

The Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing is the something special car. It’s too cool for this crap world.

I've daily driven mine since 2016. Taken two kids everywhere. It's been great!

I agree 100%