Looks exciting! I wish I had one to try out. So far my favorite ones are the metabo hpt and makita xgt and lxt are best all around. I love using the xgt saw. Very nice balance between performance and feel. Nice to see other brands stepping it up. Pricing is not bad. Also rpm specs are usually under no load conditions. What really matters is rpm under load.
You cannot use rpm under load for anything because you cannot exactly specify the amount of load. And without that the value doesn't tell you anything. So you go with no-load RPM, then you use amperage to calculate torque and voila, you have an objective number for performance.
Best new rear handle is the 36V Metabo HPT rear Handle, we got two if them a few months back and our Makita, DeWalt and Milwaukees barely get used due to it being 2lbs lighter than the next lightest and it has great power, site lines and functionality for jobs we normally have to use a smaller saw for Lifetime warranty, better priced, AC adapter capable for saving battery lifetime and all day use-stacked lithium tech is nice but not necessary-maybe a saw I would consider for my Prazi beam saw but the Makita and DeWalt saw work fine with the power they have Most powerful is not always best for actual framing and site work
New metabo is 8.2, new flex is 10lbs, since your happy with less performance already just use the flex with a 5ah/6ah pack and enjoy a lighter saw w battery with more power than that metabo at nearly the same weight. Then when you max power or runtime throw the 10ah in.
@@brianbush9453 Brian you must not be a framer As mentioned before from multiple carpenters and with the tip framers in our area Raw power is nice but not what makes a good framing saw We do have the previously More.powerful.Dewalt.flexvolt.and Milwaukee but most.of.our guys chose the 2x18(36V) as it cuts.better and has plenty of power to get the jobs done,we recently purchased two Metabo HPT's and not only is it more powerful than the Makita but is much lighter, better site lines and overall is a joy to use when framing We have had a Flex on jobsite and it is similar to the DeWalt Flexvolt in power and weight-pretty good.saw but the overall functionality and ergonomics just aren't as good as the rear handle Metabo HPT and that's not just my opinion but the opinion of all of our framers and others who have tried it out as well as a bunch of guys all over the world when they get their hands on it-plus it's better priced and their line is more robust and have the best nailers.in the business-Hope u enjoy your Flex-
@@baseballdude8491 agree 100% on the nailers.. Outstanding framer and 18g. So you have already had a pre released flex rear handle to compare ergonomics and use.. or your saying it doesn’t matter you actually haven’t compared the two you just like the metabo rear handle regardless and this was all some strange hijack?
@@baseballdude8491 also it’s nice flex gave you led and dust port option great if your cutting inside or under a tent and not outside 100% of the time. Better bevel settings and can easily make similar weight using a similarly small battery as the metabo 4ah pack that your on. The ability to plug in is good you’ll need it w the metabo with the 10ah pack on the flex you’d be hard pressed to run more than a pack in a work day.
Is it the heaviest because the 10ah battery? Metabo is light bare tool and this one is .4 lbs lighter. I'm guessing makita is the lightest at 9.something lbs
The built design of this saw is just like Dewalt and Milwaukee, however I've also noticed Dewalt recent atomic drill driver and flex hammer drill driver looks very similar,except for the color. My conclusion is flex a new secret arm of Dewalt? I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, flexvolt and flex are alike, except for color and a few modifications on the flex grey and black worm drive style saw. This is just my opinion, of flex being a new Dewalt....
Gearing and design are not equal or the same-components, quality and how they interact with the electrical system/motor all are parts of how a tool performs
Losses decrease power from the motor to the blade, because energy is loss due to friction. The rpm value provided includes the losses, as it’s measured at the blade. Torque value is not provided. However power is literally a function of rpm and torque.. Look at the equation. They’re directly related.
@protoolreviews question are your bevel and height adjustments levers very stiff. Mine seems very stiff and was wondering if its just mine or others having same issue.
Well I only bought my Flex tool Quick Eject Impact Driver and Turbo Hammer Drill kit and Flex baseline or basic impact driver and Inline 6-1/2" circular saw, Angle Grinder, and 7-1/2 Rear Handle saw with 3.5Ah, 6.0Ah and 12Ah Stacked lithium 24V battery just only for a Showoff and Showdown tools against the Milwaukee fanboys in my jobsite. And the Milwaukee boys got destroyed and humiliated by the power of the Flex tools have. But most of the time I'm only using DeWalt, Makita, Bosch, Ryobi, Hitachi, Craftsman and Harbor Freight Hercules tools both cordless and corded tools in my jobsite. When I need the rotate all my tools I also uses my flex tools in my jobsite in routine basis.
@Flip The Pickle no way really I’m in NSW and can’t find flex tools anywhere. I have even tried to contact flex but it’s not easy. Any help wud be awesome cheers
1:07 unless they made it better from their sidwinder to this it is a failure piont mine wont lock into place it just slide back and forth and then when i want somthing greater the 22.5 on my bevel i have to mave sure i hold it up to 65 or whatever and then adjust
Moreover, did you do test for thermal overload? At 22 volts you're much more likely to reach a thermal overload than a comparitive motor at higher voltages. Flex's sidewinder is notorious for overheating likely due to flex pushing it's performance a little too far.
@@almerino3497 it's the lightest rear handle saw on the market and it's not even close. Think of how many we have right now and how many attempts iterations. Pair that with satisfactory power and best in type run time and you have yourself innovation.
@@athannaelanderson3806 Go out and design one then. Like I mentioned earlier, think of how many attempts at a rear handle saw there has been and none came CLOSE to this saw. They made at minimum, a two generation leap in weight. That's huge. That's innovative. Strange you calling me out on my muscles yet I seem to know about the entire market of rear handles? Think I'm new to saws? You don't like improvement? What a weird take.
The Flex Quick Eject Impact Driver and Turbo Hammer Drill beaten and destroyed Milwaukee, DeWalt and Makita. Flex dominated them. I want to see the new Flex cordless Rear handle worm drive style saw to come against the Skil cordless Worm Drive saw and DeWalt's 60V Flexvolt Rear handle saw. I think the Flex's 24V 12Ah Stacked lithium in the rear handle saw can dominate and beat the current best cordless saw in the market. The Skil cordless Worm Drive Saw and DeWalt 60V rear handle saw
I thought this video showed that flex was better than the others. I barely saw any cut comparisons at all and the one I did see was against the Milwaukee which is not the top performing saw. I think someone is getting some bucks from flex for pushing the new saw. Why else would you say it performs better, then provide no proof. I would hope a top tier 24v tool would put perform a top tier 18v (21v since we are clearly talking about maxes) but I'll have to see evidence to convince me it's better than the 60v tool. Not just some dude saying it's better. I will admit the right side dust port is a huge upgrade
Most will do the job yes. Are they all the same? Definitely not. Even stuff like DeWalts and milwaukees cordless table saw. Super close to the same except one runs 18v one runs 60v. Even if they are identical otherwise, the motor and power source makes a big difference. If you don't care about the differences why are you even on a video like this much less commenting? Even stuff from the same mother company are different (Milwaukee, Ridgid, Ryobi) so saying all the stuff is the same shows nothing but the fact that you don't pay attention to the differences.
